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Unlike the top 20 1st basemen for 2013 fantasy baseball, this post doesn’t need to go to 42.  About thirteen will do.  We’ll still go to 20-something, but it won’t always be fun on the way.  I don’t remember another position any other year like this for the 2nd basemen.  There are no upside picks after the top thirteen.  I mean, I guess, sorta, possibly Logan Forsythe or Donovan Solano could surprise, but, more likely, they will have a few weeks here and there where they are ownable.  This wouldn’t matter if, say, they were catchers.  You draft one and you’re done.  But you know some doofus in your league is going to draft an early middle infielder and then take two of the top thirteen guys.  If you get two doofii in your league, you’re gonna have Brian Roberts as your 2nd baseman and be like, “Yo, Grey, he could bounce back, right?  Hello?  Echo?  Mr. Eko from Lost?”  There’s the position eligibility chart for 2013 fantasy baseball.  All the 2013 fantasy baseball rankings are under that linkie-ma-whosie.  As always, my projections and tiers are included for the low, low price of zero dollars. Anyway, here’s the top 20 2nd basemen for 2013 fantasy baseball:

1. Robinson Cano – Went over Cano’s projections in the top 10 for 2013 fantasy baseball.

2. Ian Kinsler – Went over Kinsler’s projections in the top 20 for 2013 fantasy baseball.

3. Dustin Pedroia – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Seager.  I call this tier, “This is your only chance for a decent 2nd baseman, but you do have about ten to choose from, so there’s that.”  The good news and bad news are wrapped up tightly into a little bow for Pedroia.  He tends to play so balls to the wall like a deleted scene from Porky’s that he misses games here and there or plays hurt, but he also gets his stats.  Since his first full year, only in 2010 did he fail to crack 15 homers and 20 steals.  You don’t get the Sparky Anklebiter label without some grit, stick-to-itiveness and I-fink-U-freeky-and-I-like-U-a-lot-ishness.  2013 Projections:  90/17/100/.291/20

4. Brandon Phillips – BP is one bad year from dropping down to the Uggla tier.  I think that year is much closer than it even appears in the your rear view mirror.  2nd base is such a mess though, I can’t be dropping guys too far on gut alone.  Plus, I have no gut.  My stomach is a six pack.  Frat guys play quarters off my ripped belly.  I count up to six with my abs-acus.  If Phillips gets 150 games played, he’ll have 90 runs and 80 RBIs without much effort.  I don’t think he gets 150 games though, sorry to affront.  Almost rhyme!  2013 Projections:  82/18/75/.275/15

5. Ben Zobrist – Maybe it’s just me (doubtful! hahahahaha) but I keep waiting for the bottom to fall out on Zobrist.  Since I’m not prejudice (though what is the deal with people over six feet tall — ooh, I’m tall; get over yourself!), we should look at Zobrist as Brandon Phillips with just a hair less on average and a tad more speed.  Zobrist and Phillips flip-flopped in the rankings a few times before I landed on this.  Phillips just feels slightly safer.  2013 Projections:  85/18/75/.264/18

6. Aaron Hill – I have little faith in Hill and this is after the love of Tim McGraw helped her get through a tough stretch.  *checking notes*  Oops. I have no faith in Aaron Hill, and this is one of the good 2nd basemen — yay!  He seems completely capable of a year where he hits 5 homers and .215.  All we have to go on though is what he should be with all things being equal.  Last year, his HR/FB% was 11.2 — repeatable; his 12.9 strikeout percentage — repeatable; and his 14 steals are, well, you know.  He could go 20/20 with a .280 average, but I don’t feel completely confident.  2013 Projections:  86/22/80/.263/12

7. Danny Espinosa – As long as his K-rate continues to trend up, which is down, I don’t expect him to ever make a legitimate step forward without a huge BABIP year.  Like a .350+ BABIP-type year, i.e., he needs to get very lucky to hit above .255.   I before E except in Teixeira, I like Espinosa but he will be an average drain and have months where you’re wondering why you ever drafted him.  2013 Projections:  78/19/58/.245/20

8. Josh Rutledge – I already went over my Josh Rutledge fantasy.  I wrote it while chasing a fly around a meth lab.  FWIWuertz, I want Rutledge on every team.  He’s my go-to guy if I miss out on a 2nd baseman above him and I will reach for Rutledge.  Unfortunately, you will have to wait a week plus for him to gain 2nd base eligibility in most leagues, assuming Tulowitzki can stay healthy for a week plus.  2013 Projections:  92/17/51/.262/20

9. Jose Altuve – Because my math skills are like those of a wizard-calculator hybrid — a calculatard — I can tell you the sine and cosine while on a complete tangent. So, I’ve decided to figure out how many steals Altuve will get compared to how many inches he is tall.  The ratio is 1:1.   If you’re not sure what to make of Altuve, think of him as Bonifacio with a better average, slightly better power and less speed.  If you don’t know Bonifacio, I’m out of comparisons.  Sorry.  2013 Projections:  87/8/43/.304/28

10. Emilio Bonifacio – Right now, Bonifacio is either batting 2nd or 9th.  Will depend on how Melky does, or how much better his website design skills have become.  So where Emilio will be batting in the lineup will be something to keep a close eye in the spring.  Not a closed eye.  Hello, open your eyes!  Ugh, forget it.  2013 Projections:  79/3/49/.263/42

11. Rickie Weeks – Sure, Weeks could go 20/20 with a .270 average.  And I could walk on the moon, if I were standing on the moon.  What’s your point?  Weeks was hitting .199 through the All-Star Break.  His BABIP was .267 through the ASB, and while that is low, it’s not that low for him.  His expected average for the year was .260.  He had the highest strikeout rate of his career.  I’m not sure I’m going to be able to draft Weeks with where I’m ranking him, but for the first time in his career his value and his ADP are about equal, so I could own him.  2013 Projections:  89/20/59/.254/12

12. Jason Kipnis – Nothing about his 2012 season made sense and because of that I won’t be owning him in 2013.  I will wait to see him do it again on someone else’s team.  His 31 steals last year took the ceiling off his previous top steal season (12), built an attic above it, then removed the attic ceiling and made a sun roof.  Last preseason, I said he could get 14 homers.  He ended the season with 14 homers.  Only thing is he hit 11 homers in the 1st half.  His 2nd half was miserable.  If he has a 1st half this year like his 2nd half last year (3 homers, .233 average, 11 steals), you’re gonna murder someone, and that’s illegal, unless you’re a celebrity.  2013 Projections:  78/15/72/.251/15

13. Kyle Seager – He looks like a rich man’s Neil Walker.  A rich man’s Walker?  That makes him Kyle Scooter.  2013 Projections: 69/18/85/.264/11

14. Chase Utley – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Scutaro.  I call this tier, “They’ve all been good in the past.  Are you drafting a fantasy classic league?”  All of the guys in this tier are capable of a resurgence — a Zombino year.  I suppose to be completely accurate Neil Walker and Marco Scutaro weren’t bad last year, but that’s what makes them even worse.  They weren’t bad and they are in this tier of has-beens.  Utley should be solid if he stays healthy.  Sorry, I tried to keep a straight face when I said that.  It’s not like his injuries are the kind to linger.  Again, sorry, I did my best.  Utley will be lucky to play 120 games.  In shallower leagues where you can replace him off waivers when he’s out 5-7 days or 15-40 days, he’s a bit more valuable.  2013 Projections:  68/14/74/.267/10

15. Dan Uggla – Unlike Utley, for the last few years you were hoping Uggla got hurt just so you can justify dropping him.  Uggla seems so much younger because of all the Affliction and Ed Hardy clothing he wears — I mean, no one over the age of 15 would wear any of that, right? — he’ll be 33 years old for the start of the season and a huge turnaround from his career slide doesn’t look like it’s on the horizon.  He should be able to get a few more homers than his previous year’s 19 with all of his fly balls.  BTW, if I owned an underwear company, I’d call it, Fly Balls.  The commercial, “My rate of four-baggers to Fly Balls is excellent.”  There was also a Dan Uggla sleeper by Sky (what a hippie name!). 2013 Projections:  82/26/88/.227/3

16. Martin Prado – If you’ve read Razzball for an Urbandictionary minute, you know I’ve never been a fan of Prado.  It’s pradoly because I’ve never been a fan of counting on counting stats (almost tongue twister!).  Last year’s 17 steals look like the anomaly, and I’m not paying for anomalies.  I mean, where would one even buy an anomaly?  And his trade to the Diamondbacks does nothing for his numbers.  He will now replace Justin Upton’s Bobblehead Day with a Prado Bobblehead.  It’s good to be a Diamondbacks fan!  2013 Projections:  86/12/68/.298/12

17. Howie Kendrick – After being touted coming up through the minors, I thought he finally hit his career stride in 2011, which led me to believe 2012 would be amazing.  This crow I’m eating needs another 20 minutes in the oven.  I really have no idea what happened to Kendrick’s fly balls (they fit so snug!) last year, but he had a new career low, with his ground balls sky rocketing (not literally).  So, when he only had a 8.9% HR/FB rate with a 20.8% FB rate, his year turned into dreck.  I still think he can surprise if he elevates more balls, but I’m not counting on more than 12 homers.  2013 Projections:  70/10/78/.290/14

18. Neil Walker – I don’t like Neil Walker at all.  Frankly, I don’t like any hitters where you are completely reliant on counting stats and don’t call me Frank Lee.  2013 Projections:  75/14/82/.272/9

19. Kelly Johnson – He’s still a free agent as of right now, so he could fall off this list completely if he signs as a back-up or in Japan.  At six-one, he could be huge in Japan.  “We’ve got trouble, someone get Mothra!”  I’ve given Johnson projections for a full season of ABs, so it’s doubtful he moves up this list.  UPDATE:  Rays signed him to face righties, but he’ll probably face 50% of poor lefties, and with the recession– *Googling alternate definitions of “poor”*… So, Johnson should get around 75% of starts, and be decent for some power, speed and no average.  2013 Projections:  68/17/59/.246/13

20. Michael Young – Went over Young’s projections in the top 20 1st basemen for 2013 fantasy baseball.

21. Marco Scutaro – HAHAHAHAHAHAHA… Breathe, Grey!  Come back to us!  HAHAHAHAHAHA!  Breathe!  Somebody call a paramedic!  Wait, I’m here!  Sorry, I just lost control there for a second when I realized I ranked Marco Scutaro 21st overall for 2nd basemen.  As they say in Jamaica, “C’mon, mon, c’mon.”  If Walker is the kind of guy that needs counting stats to be productive, Scutaro is his foot soldier.  2013 Projections:  83/7/60/.279/8

22. Dustin Ackley – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Weeks.  I call this tier, “Upside has never looked this bad.”  I will attempt to strum up some enthusiasm for the guys in this upside tier, but it might be hard without a line of coke.  I already threw the one guy I am crazy excited about (Rutledge) in a higher tier.  This upside tier is pathetic.  I’m sad for them.   You know, Fantasy Gods, it sure doesn’t help that some of the upside guys are on the Padres, Marlins and Mariners.  Never the hoo!  Ackley hit 7 of his 12 homers last year in the 2nd half.  Never the hoo my fanny hole, he also hit .217 in the 2nd half.  There’s a chance here for a guy to get 15/15+, but he only hit 2 homers last year at home and his average might not get over .250 without some luck.  (He also has 1st base eligibility in some leagues.)  Jay Wrong also gave you his Dustin Ackley sleeper post. 2013 Projections:  80/16/52/.245/12

23. Jedd Gyorko – If there’s a Jedd in the Padres plans, then that will affect Forsythe and his projections.  Right now, it’s not clear how their 2nd base slot will play out.  I went over my Jedd Gyorko fantasy.  He does it like this, he does it like that, he does it like this with a baseball bat… 2013 Projections:  60/18/70/.265/4 (assuming an everyday job)

24. Gordon Beckham – Last year, he cut his strikeout rate and raised his walk rate.  When correcting for luck, he hit .264 (not .234), had a career high in power, and he’s burned everyone at least once in the last three years.  That last bit is probably the only thing stopping you from drafting him.  It is a fairly large thing though.  I know, I’ve been saddled with him in the past, too.  I’m expecting another step forward as he is just 26 years old, but there’s a bunch of risk involved.  2013 Projections:  72/19/68/.259/5

25. Donovan Solano – I’m kinda stuck here.  I don’t want to continue to the next tier, but I also don’t think I can say anything really that enticing for this tier that is supposed to be the upside tier.  Hey, Donovan has a starting job!  He doesn’t have speed, power, on base skills or average.  He’s young though… How does he have a starting job?  Oh, that’s right.  The Marlins are trying to get the city to pay for a contract killer to kill Loria.  2013 Projections:  72/3/60/.265/10

26. Jemile Weeks –  Weeks has good speed, but he doesn’t really have crazy speed.  He definitely isn’t a .221 hitter either as he was last year.  His Expected Average was actually .301.  He’s better than his older brother in that department.  Unfortch, he doesn’t even have a full-time starting job as of right now.  That’s right, a guy without a starting job is ranked 26th!   Eff me.  2013 Projections:  55/3/30/.285/17

27. Omar Infante – This tier goes from here until Keppinger.  I call this tier, “My hands are waving and I’m making the same face as Liotta when Pesci pretends he’s going to strangle him after being called funny.”  Last year at 30 years old, Infante had his best year for steals (17) and for games played (149).  Invariably, he has a good month or two, but, if you draft Infante, you may as well wave a white flag.  “Yo, why’s the flag gotta be white?!”  Well, Social Injustice Man, technically a white flag isn’t a good thing.  “Damn right it’s a white flag!”  2013 Projections: 62/7/67/.270/9

28. Brian Roberts – Even if I assume 500 ABs for Roberts, I’m not sure he can crack 5 homers and 20 steals.  In November, he said, “Health-wise, I’m probably ahead of where I’d normally be in the offseason for the first time in a long time.” He then went up an escalator that had no next floor and fell into a pit of alligators.  2013 Projections:  42/3/22/.259/7

29. Daniel Murphy – He makes Marco Scutaro look like an upside pick.  (He also has 1st base eligibility in some leagues.  If you’re playing him at 1st base, wait until the end of the season to put money into your fantasy league’s pot, then leave town and change your name.)  2013 Projections:  65/4/60/.295/6

30. Darwin Barney – The Purple Evolutionist is a Sparkless Anklebiter.  2013 Projections:  63/6/59/.262/7

31. Logan Forsythe – Logan’s run did end, and Jedd Gyorko will get a chance.  Oh, well, I liked Hunger Games better than Logan’s run anyway.  2013 Projections:  56/7/44/.282/10

32. Cliff Pennington – If you draft him, there’s nothing good from a fantasy perspective, but you can make a fiscal cliff joke.  2013 Projections:  55/7/48/.250/19

33. Jeff Keppinger – The Blanco Sox signed Blanco Polanco to play 3rd base, but he has 2nd base eligibility.  Keppinger said he’s excited about a new team and feeling loose.  So no tighty blancos for him, which makes me think of a great invention.  A polygraph type device that you wear to fantasy drafts, only instead of it being attached to your finger, you attach it to your groin.  Towards the end of a draft, if you’re not excited about a guy you shouldn’t draft them.  It’s the Upside Checker.  Maybe I can give it away with my Fly Balls. 2013 Projections:  53/7/41/.282/1

From Around The Web

  1. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:
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    Just a heads up. Realize Seager’s 18 games at 2B last year get him eligibility in some leagues, but shouldn’t in ESPN RCL (20 game minimum).

    • Simply Fred

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      @simply fred: Likewise, Bonifacio with only 15 at 2B.

      • Jay

        jaywrong says:
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        @simply fred:

        Revolt the format!

        • Simply Fred

          simply fred says:
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          @jaywrong: Exploit the system to your advantage!!

    • me! says:
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      @simply fred:
      Likewise, Prado with only 10 at 2B.

  2. bossmanjunior says:
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    With other tiers being deeper with upside guys, would you recommend striking early for 2B rather than punt or wait to long to grab someone? I know its early, but I can see myself targeting Cano in the first if I don’t pick in the top 3. If he doesn’t fall there, target a safe reliable boring Pedroia or Phillips and be done with it. I really like Rutledge as a high upside late pick, but I feel better punting SS over 2b right now.

  3. Kershawshank says:
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    I have Espinosa in my main league – $2 out of $150 budget. Two 2B each team, 12 teams. What are your thoughts on signing him to a multiple year contract? If I go one year I have no option to re-sign him. Can go 2 to 5 years on a multi year with an option to re-sign. Rising K rate makes me weary. One year or two?

  4. theearly90s says:
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    Uggla post, hahahahaha.

  5. Big AL says:
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    That was painful.You owe me a bottle of Excedrin.Oh wait they stopped making It for a while. Kinda like 2nd basemen.

  6. Dirk Diggler says:
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    Didnt Kipnis play with a stiff neck, not mine of course, through out the 2nd half of last season? Thus causing a collapse in his production?

  7. Charles says:
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    Is Profar only a SS? I was hoping he’d be a 2B/SS player.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Charles: I have him as a SS

      • beardcrabs says:
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        @Grey: where would you rank him if he were 2b eligible…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @beardcrabs: End of the list in redraft leagues…

  8. jesse says:
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    keep Hosmer, Kipnis, or Frazier in H2H points league 11 keepers?

  9. slew says:
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    Pablo Sandoval is in the hospital with what is being called, stomach inflammation.
    Thoughts?

    • L-Boogie says:
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      @slew: Last year he broke his HamAte. Now he has stomach inflammation? Sometimes the jokes just write themselves. The Giants team doctor should be on the Razzball payroll.

    • Jay

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      @slew: He swallowed Bochy head first. The coming out party will be akin to Ace Ventura’s elephant exit.

  10. Dingbat says:
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    Happy Birthday, Grey! Hope it’s a great one.

    Thanks for the lists, as always. The 2B scene is super weird this year. Sure, the upside plays are really limited, but the won’t-lose-your-league-for-you guys seem pretty deep. Using some arbitrary cutoff points for counting stats:

    In 2011, there were 12 guys who could get you 20+ HR+SB and >115 R+RBI, while in 2012 there were (I think) 19 guys who fit that description. Of course, that 2012 list includes guys like Uggla, Ackley, Beckham, and Kelly Johnson, who killed your average while being barely passable in the other categories. But that’s still better than 2011 — after those top 12, only Ryan Raburn and Gordon Beckham managed to give even 15+ HR+SB and 100+ R+RBI. Blech.

    • Grey

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      @Dingbat: Thanks, DB! Interesting…

  11. Schlitzy says:
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    Love the Breaking Bad reference. Damn that’s a good show. I debated with myself all morning about whether I like BB or the wire more. I feel like the Wire was a masterpiece, but I’ve enjoyed BB more. Maybe it’s beacause BB is more recent. I should probably go back to work now.

  12. Trevor

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    Happy Birthday, kind sir!

  13. Ronkonkoma says:
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    This is a pretty ugly list. I can only hope Phillips or Zobrist falls to me in my keeper draft. .. Or I can cross my fingers with Rutledge.

  14. Eddy says:
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    Considering Uggla is at around the 19th round in MDC and will probably settle in the 15th round or so, it makes him the perfect target for an OBP league.

    Would’ve gone with Altuve otherwise, but he’s going in the top 5.

    • Eddy says:
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      @Eddy:

      Oh, and happy birthday, amigo!

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Eddy: Thanks, Eddy! Altuve is in the top 5? That’s silly…

  15. Chris says:
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    Grey, I bought into Kendrick also last year. I’d like to blame you for my dismal baseball season last year, but you weren’t sitting here commandeering my computer and drafting Kendrick (as far as I know), so I’ll just have to blame something else. The sun was in my eyes. And the dog ate my homework.

    Like with catcher, I think Tier 1 is from Cano to Cano, simply because I don’t trust Kinsler to stay healthy.

    • Grey

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      @Chris: Kendrick didn’t lose anyone a league, just as Cano didn’t win anyone one…

  16. marti says:
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    So I tend bar here in phoenix and robin yount is one of my regulars and we have a baseball bet for the upcoming season.

    I pick 10 teams and he gets the remaining 20. One of my ten teams has to win the world series.

    What ten teams do you pick?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @marti: Does he order a Harvey Wallbanger?

      • marti says:
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        miller light

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @marti: You know the Harvey Wallbanger reference, right? You should ask him if he wants one… And get him on the Razzball podcast!

    • Adam says:
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      @marti:

      Yankees
      Blue Jays
      Tigers
      Angels
      Rangers

      Nationals
      Braves
      Cardinals
      Giants
      Dodgers

      Sounds good to me…

    • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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      @marti: I would pick-
      Rangers
      Angels
      Tigers
      Nationals
      Braves
      Giants
      Reds
      Cardinals
      Dodgers
      Blue Jays

  17. Eric says:
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    What are the odds that Kolten Wong arrives in St. Louis this year? It’s Neil Walker or the Wong in my dynasty league.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Eric: Probably by July…

    • Scott Evans

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      Word is Matt Carpenter is gonna give 2B a try during ST. If that experiment works, we likely won’t see Wong this year (also, Carpenter could be a great sleeper 2B — .828 OPS in 340 PA last year). If it fails, the Cards will roll w/ Descalso until they’re comfortable starting Wong’s clock — probably around All Star Break, or thereabouts. Grey’s July prediction seems on point, but the STL 2B situaish is definitely one to keep an eye on…

  18. Sideshow says:
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    IMO last yr you were to high on Howie & this yr to low. With his lineup I think he will b a top 10 guy this yr. However, I can see y you r bitter.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sideshow: It’s a tough pill to swallow…

    • Jay

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      @Sideshow: y u no like wordz?

  19. A good Gray job here, again… The clarity, you, the RazzBall man (even on his birthday) brings to the nebulous world of fantasy BB is jaw droppingly awe inspiring over and over and over…

    My problem with 2nd base is there is only Cano and all the rest stand as ho -hummers when next to him… I feel cheated without after him

    Phillips.. YOU NAILED… Where he goes or price will drive his attractiveness

    Getting over that fact… Your 8 – 10 guys are going to be overlooked by the many bigger names below them…. If they aren’t, one of those bigger names might have some bounce in their year…

    I like Seager a bunch available at 2nd … If he holds onto his middle of the order spot with the M’s

    While M’-ing it … Ackley could breakout huge in a new more potent lineup Lead off could pump his SBs too… Seattle could be please in offence for the first time in a long while IMO… M. Saunders, 26 YO (great age,) is one of my super sleepers for deeper leagues outta there… A possible Big BA bounce improves the rest of his already decent numbers – High risk as a hot Casper Wells and a host of other older OFer types can hurt him – someone is traded there – and soon IMO)

    In general, there are many interestling late picks in this #2 bag group – once the smoake has settled…

    • Grey

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      @t moore: Ha…Thanks! Aaron Hill was huge last year, better than Posey for numbers… There’s usually a few of those with Cano carrying the load, agreed…

    • @t moore: I almost hate to put this on here – as I know all the rest of hack copycat web-wraith touters outthere follow this site like it is their Bible!!!

      You do realize, Safco’s walls have been moved in a minimum of 4 feet all the way around and much more in left center… A big change in the Northwest is about to occur… This is the reason behind the big bats being brought in droves there…

      Please, don’t broadcast this info Mr Gray… It is season winning stuff… It will be too late for most to react to – after the new eye popping numbers start flowing out of Seattle this season…

      Knowing few stoop to reading my humble words, I have some comfort in posting this top secret info under “Comments” here …

      But you!!! In a Lead Article!!!… YIKES!!!!

      That would be like shouting it from the mountain tops to the millions (I’m one of these dependent minions) of whom awake everyday wondering – even before wiping the sandmans out of their eyes, what has The Great Gray to say today???…

      • Grey

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        @t moore: I know about the Safeco walls being brought in, Jaywrong mentioned it yesterday… If Jaywrong’s wrong, I don’t want to be Jayright… Metco brought in their fences last year, there was no change in anything…

        • Curt says:
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          @Grey: Then you would be coaching basketball at Villanova.

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @t moore:

        everybody knows the walls are coming in. If you’re playing against folks who don’t, you’re likely going to beat them for a hundred reasons, not just because of four feet in Seattle.

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @OaktownSteve:

          accurate …. but funny

  20. MrMojoRisin says:
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    Ugh what a terrible position…
    Looks like my 2B will be a waiver wire pick-up as I won’t get Cano in any of my leagues and I don’t like any of the risk here.
    Gordon Beckham, I just can’t quit you!

  21. TurnerWard says:
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    While Bonifacio will get his AB’s in I’m sure, don’t forget that Maicer Izturis will get a lot of playing time at 2b for the Jays as he’s a better defending 2b. The outfield’s a little clogged too. Still versatility and late inning speed helps.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TurnerWard: Emilio will get plenty of value on the basepaths if he’s healthy…

  22. royce! says:
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    Happy birthday Grey! Sorry that it coincidentally fell on the day that you had to discuss these schomohawks… You can only go up from here!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @royce!: Thanks! And a belated one to you!

  23. BigPoppa says:
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    Grey,
    For offense, our league counts the following stats in a 10-team, H2H model:
    Runs, Hits, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OBP, K’s

    I’m intrigued and would like to try using your ranking system. My question is, do your rankings take all of these stats into account? For example, I would never pick someone like Adam Dunn. Despite his power, he would destroy my ability to win the K category.
    Thanks,
    -BP

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @BigPoppa: I think my rankings would be fine if you went by the blurbs’ intentions as well as the projections…

  24. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    Cano in the first, Sparky Anklebiter in the third, or Reggie Roby the position (maybe Seager or Kendrick later) – that looks like the way I’ll be going. Happy B-day, GA!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks, BM!

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @Grey: Btw, I’ll be watching this week’s Top Chef later today. I heard some fans got their panties in a bunch over the most recent episode. Any thoughts, sans spoiler?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I won’t spoil anything… I will say that I went last week to Stefan’s restaurant and he sat with us for about ten minutes… A) He was shizz-faced drunk B) Food was bad C) Service was worse D) I wouldn’t ever go back and I’d tell others to never go…

          • Big Magoo

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            @Grey: Oh boy… you’d expect good food at the very least, especially for what you’d have to spend (I’d imagine)… how was he compared to his on-screen persona?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, was overpriced too… About $140 for 3 people… They had chili fries on the menu, and not like a post-modern take on chili fries… Just regular old chili fries…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              re: On screen persona: He was douchey, which is funny on TV but not so much in person… He also did something he does in the newest episode… When I asked him about Fabio he asked “Who?” He does that with Mika in the beginning of this episode… He must think it’s cute… I gave him credit, his food was better than Fabio’s food, but Fabio’s food was Olive Garden-ish…

              • Big Magoo

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                @Grey: Geez, it sounds like these guys are just trying to cash in on their 15 minutes… not much quality control going on… at least it sounds like it’s not an act with Stefan…

                • Grey

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                  Stefan apologized briefly when I told him the food was pretty poor, but it was half-hearted and then he walked away saying he’d be right back and never came back… His magic frozen lollipops he always goes to were pretty whatever too…

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @Grey: The lollipops always seemed like more of a gimmick than some sort of culinary masterpiece… oh well, i guess start at the bottom and work your way up to Josie’s restaurant eventually!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      HA! I think she has a catering truck for funerals…

  25. Snake Hips says:
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    Our league has 2nd base and MI positions to fill… What do you suggest I do? Try and get 2 guys from your top 10? Or better off using a SS for my MI? I hate middle infidels this year!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… Get an MI that best fits your team, probably a late SS with upside… There will be some, thankfully…

  26. Todd25 says:
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    @Grey reading through the 2nd basemen list has me quite weary. I see Cano, Pedroia, Philips, Altuve, and a whole lot of Godzilla-sized Question Marks that might end up losing to Mecha-Godzilla who will then turnaround and ravage Tokyo. am i not far off? it looks scary. Who are you thinking of targeting this year, are you hoping to get early or wait it out for Altuve/Boneface?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hoping for Rutledge on all my teams…

      • Todd25 says:
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        @Grey: Right, Rutty. When would you start thinking of reaching for him if the top is gone, like 80th? or are you thinking 100+?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Just after 100…

  27. OaktownSteve says:
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    There’s one guy on the list that I think you have too low, but for a change, I think I’ll keep one to myself.

    The ugliness of this list is why I was thinking Laser Show get a boost. One thing about him is that he’s either playing or he’s on the DL. None of that day to day BS. So you get him plus replacement still looks pretty good as a floor and if he stays healthy he gives a very good season at a thin position.

    Your Jemile Weeks blurb reminds me that, though I love SABR stuff, you really have use it in combination with watching baseball. If his expected average was .301 then that’s pretty much a meaningless number. In all my years of watching baseball, I don’t know that I have ever seen a player hit the ball with less authority or look more overmatched than he was. And it pains me to say this as he’s my daughter’s favorite player (god forbid we ever misplace the Jemile Weeks drawstring backpack!). It was like watching 8 year old little leaguers try to muscle the ball out of the infield. This is not to say he might not comeback a little bit stronger. He does have good quick hands and he is mighty fast (which is why his expected average was so high…two of the components are contact rate and speed rating…really dumb stat). But if he basically plays at the same talent level as last year there’s not a chance in the hot place that he hits .270+

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @OaktownSteve:

      and happy birthday….one word my boy…tequila

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Thanks! I’m drunk already!

        • OaktownSteve says:
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          @Grey:

          me too…provided you replace “already” with “still”

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ha!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I hear ya… Luckily, unless you’re in an AL-Only league, he won’t even matter… The only thing that he has is speed, which won’t go away… In AL-Only league, 20 steals from a $1 player could make a difference…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        yeah…I didn’t really make the comment so much about Jemile as about SABR. Gives me an idea for a razzball glossary actually…stat heads love him…baseball scouts hate him “the guy is a SABR tooth tiger”. Come on down Rickey Nolasco.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          The ol’ SABR-toothed tiger, huh? Hmm… Not sure how I feel… Doesn’t bust me up, so to speak…

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            It’s a little “on the nose”

  28. Tom says:
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    FYI – “Corey Hart to undergo knee surgery, out three to four months”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There he goes…

  29. Jason says:
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    who would you recommend i keep? I get to keep 3 in a 10 man point h2h league.
    Verlander, Pujols, Ian Kinsler, Hanley Ramirez, Ian Desmond, Carlos Gonzalez, Giancarlo Stanton?
    We have 2 new ppl joining to make it a full 10 man league so whoever i drop i will not be able to draft
    THANKS!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pujols, Verlander, Stanton…

  30. Billybob says:
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    Hi Grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hey, Billybob

  31. Steve says:
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    Many happy returns, sir.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Hope you’re planning on eating well tonight. It’s what birthdays are for.

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey: Nice. Looks like a sophisticated take on tapas, would that be right?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah… The guy trained at El Bulli… I had a cheesesteak that was a pocket of cheese and Waygu beef… Pretty amazing…

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey: Awesome. Yeah, if he trained at El Bulli, you can assume he knows what he’s doing…

                You ever been to a David Chang place?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, Momofuku in the city… One of the best meals I’ve had…

                  • Steve says:
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                    @Grey: There’s one in Sydney, but you have to book way in advance, as is the case with most of them I guess…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Not sure the Momofuku where I went takes reservations… Had to wait about an hour, but you put in your name, walk around and go back… Get to haggle on Canal Street for a knockoff Rolex while waiting…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh, man, Prop Joe died… Again… For real this time…

  32. Herschel says:
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    @grey: saw on that Brian Williams news show last night they are doing a special next week on Ron Pompeil. Thought you might want to tune in. Not sure if they will be interviewing scioscia.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Me and my rotisserie chickens will be tuned in…

  33. Steve says:
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    Poor old Prop Jo. Doesn’t bode well for CC this season…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Better yet, now who’s going to play CC in his movie of the week?

  34. costaricanchata says:
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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!

    may you never grow old .

  35. SwaggerJackers says:
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    @Grey: I usually ask this question 3-5 times every preseason and this is officially #2. Pick 5 keepers for my auction league with OBP instead of AVG

    Cano ($18)
    Tulo ($21)
    F-Her ($17)
    Bautista ($7)
    Santana ($7)
    Craig ($4)
    Medlen ($4)
    Rizzo ($4)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cano ($18)
      F-Her ($17)
      Bautista ($7)
      Craig ($4)
      Rizzo ($4)

      Not easy choices…

      • SwaggerJackers says:
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        @Grey: Not easy choices at all.

        – Tulo will get injured but SS is weak
        – F-Her isn’t cheap and had a lousy end to the season
        – Craig will get hurt
        – Rizzo could slump

        I’m sure I’m over thinking things but my internal debate isn’t going to end anytime soon.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup, all of those things were going through my mind too…

  36. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    Ugh, Josie is such a bag… I take back what I said earlier – don’t go to her restaurant, Grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t worry, she sucks too much to have a restaurant…

  37. MVPunisher says:
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    Grey- really tough decision that I am going back and forth with every day. Deep 16 team league with NFBC style rosters.6×6 (add QS and XBH) also it is OBP not AVG

    I can keep 5 players. I have 8 guys to select from

    Reyes
    Kershaw
    R Zimmerman
    Mauer
    C Santana
    I Desmond
    D Jennings
    Dickey…

    In a 2 catcher league with OBP counting don’t u almost have to keep Mauer and Santana and have a huge advantage at C?

    • MVPunisher says:
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      @MVPunisher: the top 5 is what I am leaning towards but hurts to let Desmond go

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d lose Ian Desmond, Dickey and Santana…

  38. Peter DeMarco says:
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    No Chris Nelson? I know his BAPIP was high, but that may be partially explained by playing in Colorado. He’s scheduled (I believe) to be the starting 3b for Colorado and has 2B eligibility. He also has the pedigree of being a former 1st round draft pick.

    As a Jays fan I have concerns about ranking Bonifacio that high. Right now Izturis is the starting 2B so I’m not sure how much playing time he will get since the OF positions are all taken with Melky, Rasmus and Bautista?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Eh, he’s a 7 homer, 2 steal, .275 hitter… Over the year… Not drafted outside of NL-Only leagues…

      • Peter DeMarco says:
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        @Grey: I see someone referenced Bill James projections. I’d take Nelson over Keppinger, Roberts and Pennington at the very least, because I think he has more power potential and upside than many think.

  39. Steve says:
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    How’s the head? Pretty quiet today…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Worse today after deciding to go for a two night bender…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: ok. lowercase all day today it is, then.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          thank you.

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey: @Steve: you like wainwright this year?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I do…

  40. Schwab says:
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    Hey Grey,
    Need to keep 15 in a H2H points league. I’m leaning to the 1st 15 on the list.
    1B Hosmer
    2B Ian Kinsler
    3B Encarnacion
    SS Jose Reyes
    OF Bryce Harper
    OF Josh Hamilton
    OF Carlos Gonzalez
    UTIL Machado
    Moustakas
    Adam Wainwright
    Brandon Morrow
    Matt Moore
    David Price
    Johnny Cueto
    Kris Medlen
    Granderson
    Tommy Hanson
    Julio Teheran
    Taijuan Walker

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Those first 15 make sense…

  41. Robinson Checo says:
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    January Grey-

    What do you think of De Aza this year? I could keep him or Rasmus, or throw both back in the AL only pool and try to grab another CF. Then I’d keep a yawnstipating AL only starter like Straily or a CP like Whilmsen.

    • Grey

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      I’d keep Rasmus…

  42. Westly says:
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    Was offered Miggy and Omar Infante for Cano and Sale in my 10 team AL only Dynasty. I have no 3B, i have Profar waiting in wings at 2B, other pitchers are Brett Anderson, D. Holland, and Lester. Altuve is available in Free Agency. Do you do this trade?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Miggy…

  43. Peter says:
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    I am a Rutledge owner, & have the option of keeping him in a 15 team mixed 5×5. I am concerned b/c he never played above AA, until he got the call. Do you share the same concerns?

  44. johnny2k says:
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    on scutaro is the “breath” a typo meaning “breathe” or am i just stupid, im not actually sure

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I think it’s with an E… My bad, should’ve looked at the Taylor Swift Breathe song…

  45. Nick K. says:
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    We can keep any nine guys, plus three prospects/injured players, we want in our dynasty league. I finished 3rd last year, and I have the following list of guy to keep:
    Trout*
    Joey Bats*
    Felix Hernandez*
    Hanley*
    Adam Jones*
    Cliff Lee*
    Yu Darvish*
    Wieters*
    James SHields
    Aramis Ramirez*
    Josh Johnson
    Ike Davis
    Josh Rutledge

    Injured/Rookies:
    Brett Anderson*
    Mike Zunino*
    Jurickson Profar*
    Mike Olt

    I placed a star next to the guys that I think I will keep now, and I will try to trade JJ and Shields for picks, but what are your thoughts? We have a 14 team, 9×9 league, placing some advanced stats that make it a lot of fun. Just found your site a few days ago, definitely will be on my day to day reading list!

    • Nick K. says:
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      @Nick K.: H2H league, also.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the kind words! Ike Davis over Aramis… I’d keep Olt over Anderson…

      • Nick K. says:
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        @Grey: thanks for the info. I think I can try and package A Ramirez, J Johnson or Shields, plus Zunino or Profar for Longoria, is that too much?

  46. MasterBatters says:
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    @ Grey ” “Frat guys play quarters off my ripped belly.” Should we be concerned that you are hanging out in frat houses shirtless and having other dudes playing drinking games off you?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope, it’s a bonding exercise…

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