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We continue our 2012 fantasy baseball rankings with the top 20 2nd basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball.  There’s no 2nd baseman in the top 10 for 2012 fantasy baseball.  At least by my calculation.  Some ‘perts are putting Cano in the top 10, but I see him just outside of the top 10, but then again 2nd base is packed to the rafters with production.  It looks deeper than the 1st basemen pool and I’m only being half-facetious.  It’s like all 2nd basemen slept at a Holiday Inn last night.  There’s 15 guys I would take and if I had a middle infield spot on my roster, I’d definitely look to put a 2nd baseman in there.  As with the previous ranking lists, tiers and my projections are noted.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 2nd basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball:

1. Robinson Cano – See the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball for Robinson Cano’s projections.

2. Ian Kinsler – See the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball for Ian Kinsler’s projections.

3. Dustin Pedroia – See the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball for Dustin Pedroia’s projections.

4. Dan Uggla – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Utley (or Cuddyer, if he has eligibility).  I call this tier, “I see good value.  Draft one.”  This tier name sounds like I’m a handicapper for horse races.  Gambler’s Ruin is great on mud, put all your money on him!   Member when Dan Uggla was hitting, like, .180 and it was July and you were like, “Screw this, homie!  I’m going gangster on my team and trading Uggla for an Obama Chia.”  Then your neighbor saw that getting dropped off at your doorstep, stole it and Uggla went on to hit in like 40 games straight.  Nothing ever works out for you, huh?  Now I’m Worried you left on the oven after drying your pantyhose.  (That Twitter feed is a friend’s.  You follow now, thank you.)  Uggla wasn’t quite the hitter we saw during his hitting streak (no kidding!) but he isn’t a sub-.200 hitter either.  Or is it eyether?  Let’s call this whole thing off!  Wait, he is a 35 homer hitter.  I’ll take that and a box of Ding Dongs!  And, no, box of Ding Dongs isn’t a new Timberlake/Samberg song.  (Yes, that’s two days and two ding dong jokes.  My cup runneth over with ding dong jokes.  I am the ding dongiest!)  2012 Projections:  90/35/105/.250/3

5. Howie Kendrick – Sometimes when you go out on a limb, the limb breaks and you fall on your ass.  That might happen with Kendrick in 2012, but I’m going all in.  From 2010 to 2011 in 18 less games, he went from 10 homers to 18 homers and struck out more.  His HR/FB rate was high and he’s injury-prone.  It points to flukey.  I see a guy with 15 homer power, 15 steal speed, 100 runs and 75 RBIs potential that should hit around .290.  It’s okay, but what puts me over on him is he’s in the prime of his career so he should max out his power and look like Pedroia at a cheaper cost.  Oh, and one thing that’s been criminally under-reported, the Angels added Pujols.  You think someone would’ve talked about that.  2012 Projections:  100/18/70/.290/15

6. Brandon Phillips – Joey Votto’s gonna win the MVP and Brandon Phillips is going to be hoisted onto Jay Bruce’s shoulders next October with the team dedicating their World Series victory to their former pitching coach, Dick Pole.  Just so they can see people on Twitter snicker at his mention.  That’s how I see things playing out.  Phillips won’t be their regular season hero; he’ll be a piece.  The wily vet that plays 150 games a year and gets all those counting stats and has some power and speed that people credit more for their clubhouse leadership.  Whatever, B.P. is still greasing up some decent stats for his position.  2012 Projections:  90/20/85/.275/17

7. Chase Utley – Nah, he’s not winning the MVP again.  Well, I guess anything’s possible if he’s wearing one of Ryan Braun’s Ed Hardy t-shirts, but it seems like the best is behind him like J. Lo.  Then throw in you have no idea how long Ryan Howard is going to be out, then throw in Utley’s inability to stay healthy, then throw in his pomade, then throw in a leprechaun’s toenail and the steam that rises from the brew you threw all that in reads, “Utley should be avoided.”  Now what if I said I didn’t agree?  He’s never had a season of 120+ games where he’s been useless.  Granted, getting to 120 games has been an issue, but we knew going into last year he wasn’t going to be right.  When he did come back, his speed was fine.  Like he was never hurt.  His power was off, but so was his homers per fly ball.  His average was off, but so was his luck.  He’s going to get you 2nd to 3rd round numbers at a much cheaper price than he usually is.  BTW, if he’s bad this year, his career’s in trouble.  I think he knows that too.  2012 Projections:  80/20/85/.280/15

7 1/4. Michael Young – Only has 14 games at 2nd so he may not have eligibility in all leagues.  To see Young’s projections go to the top 20 1st basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball.

7 1/2. Michael Cuddyer – Only has 17 games at 2nd base, so he gets a half ranking.  To see Cuddyer’s projections go to the top 20 1st basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball.

8. Ben Zobrist – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Weeks.  I call this tier, “Others are taking these guys before me.”  I really don’t like Zobrist.  His stats are just too flaky for my tastes.  One year he hits .297 then .238 then .269.  Then he hits 27 homers then 10 then 20.  “Hey, fella, how about you just hit 17 homers and stop confusing Grey?!”  That’s you in the first row behind the Rays’ dugout because you’re protecting my honor.  Thx, btw!  (Don’t you love when someone abbreviates thanks as thx?  Gee, thanks so much for showing me your appreciation by almost writing a WHOLE SIX LETTER WORD!)  I’m ranking Zobrist later than most ‘perts because I don’t want him, but if he fell to me I would take him because he seems like he’s capable of a 15/15 season.  Plus or minus 15 homers and steals.  Yeah, he’s all over the map.  2012 Projections:  75/17/90/.255/17

9. Rickie Weeks – Stop me if you’ve heard this before– Stop!  I haven’t said anything yet, Random Italicized Voice.  I’ve heard, “Stop me if you’ve heard this before” before.  Here’s the games played for Weeks over his career — 96, 95, 118, 129, 37, 160, 118.  Throw out 37 and 160 and on average he plays in 118 games.  Or maybe that’s the median.  Or the mean.  I don’t know.  What I do know is he can’t stay healthy.  He can repeat his power output from last year and chuck in about 10 steals if he’s healthy, but that “if” is the size of Gilbert Grape’s mom.  2012 Projections:  65/18/50/.260/10

10. Danny Espinosa – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Kelly Johnson.  I call this tier, “Shine’s off these guys, but I like them.  Even if they might hit .240 collectively.”  At 24 years old, Espinosa hit 21 homers and stole 17 bases.  That’s the good news.  The very good news is he can hit more homers and steal more bases.  The so-so news is it might not be much more of either.  The bad news is he hit .236.  The not good or not bad news is his luck was neutral.  The “Is this really even news anymore?” news is Espinosa won’t ever hit for much of an average without luck.  The last bit of news is I’m not wearing pants.  2012 Projections:  80/24/90/.240/19

11. Aaron Hill – Here’s what I said towards the end of last year, “Hill looked to be an average issue hitter that could at least give you power.  Not this year.  His power completely evaporated.  Oddly enough, he doubled his line drive rate from 2010 and lowered his K-rate.  In short (which I only say after going long), Hill’s season made no sense.  Seriously, I can’t make heads or tails of it.  Yes, even in hindsight it’s not 20/20.  It will take some brass ones to go all in on Hill again next year, but I’m leaning that way right now.”  And that’s me quoting me!  Now, looking at Hill, I’m still no cyclops with a monocle.  What we do know is he hit .315 in Arizona in the 33 games after he was traded.  It’s something!  I don’t get where those 21 steals came from last year, but if it was some kind of deal with the devil, he forgot to specify to leave his power alone and the devil duped him.  You duping devil!  2012 Projections:  70/18/80/.265/15

12. Kelly Johnson – After a trade that sent Hill to the D-Backs and Johnson to the Jays, these two will be forever linked.  Or just for right now in the rankings.  Either way, let’s pretend we’re in the first semester of our junior year of high school and we’re taking the SATs.  The final question will send you to either Brown or nowhere because you refuse to have a safety school.  Question:  In 2008, Kelly Johnson hit .287.  In 2009, he hit .224.  In 2010, he hit .284.  In 2011, he hit .222.  What will he hit in 2012?  You know the answer; Brown’s within reach!  You say he’ll hit around .280 and… You’re wrong.  You then go on a 15-month bender that finds you waiting tables on an over-60 cruise ship and making out with grandmothers.  His good/bad alternating averages don’t mean anything, except it does tell us it’s not out of the realm of possibility for Johnson to hit something respectable.  2012 Projections:  80/20/70/.265/14

13. Jason Kipnis – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Ackley.  I call this tier, “Sleepers or guys that are overdrafted depending on how smart your leaguemates think they are.”  What I mean by the tier name is in leagues with people who prep the day before and just fly by the seat of their pants, this tier probably won’t be that known unless you’re in Cleveland, Seattle or Oakland.  In leagues where owners started prepping last November, there’s giant flashing lights on this tier’s players to the point where people will probably reach for them way too early.  As for Jason Kipnis, I already went over my Kipnis 2012 fantasy.  I wrote it enclosed with a giant heart on a bathroom stall.  2012 Projections:  80/14/60/.255/12

14. Jemile Weeks – Member when 2nd base was a speed position?  Was before Bret Boone started frosting his hair.  All of these 2nd basemen that are on the scene today probably idolized Boone and his frosted tips.  They probably even went as far to emulate him and frosted their hair too.  When Jemile frosted his hair, his classmates probably called him Sisqo, which is downright embarrassing, so he decided to rebel against the power 2nd baseman and work on his speed.  Or not.  Simply a theory.  Weeks reminds me a bit of Luis Castillo.  That takes some air out of your Jemile Weeks balloon, huh?  Hey, Castillo had some good years.  2012 Projections:  90/3/50/.265/30

15. Dustin Ackley – I’m having a real hard time understanding the hype on Ackley.  To the point where I’m not drafting him unless he falls pretty far.  He’s never hit more than 9 homers at any level of professional ball or stole more than 8 bases.  Granted, these were abbreviated seasons, but he’s also going to be playing his home games in a terrible hitting park.  I’m gonna let someone else take the chance that he shows his ceiling of 15 homers and 15 steals while expecting he shows something closer to… 2012 Projections:  80/12/55/.265/12

16. Ryan Roberts – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Beckham.  I call this tier, “Post-hype and no hype guys.  I guess I’ll draft them, but they’d have to be super cheap.”  Ryan Roberts reads to me like a Ryan Ludwick/Casey McGehee-type.  Never considered much of anything, then they explode on the scene at a late age, then they return to Back To Wherever You Came From-ville (which has higher real estate prices than I’m So Outta Here-ville cause of the influx of has-beens).  There should be a glossary term for these type of no hype players that only have one good year.  Suggest in the comments.  2012 Projections:  55/13/65/.245/15

17. Neil Walker – This guy isn’t far off from Ryan Roberts.  They’re pretty much flip-floppable (Made Up Word of the Day!).  But since Roberts just came off a better season, I put them in this order.  Could see Walker outperforming him in 2012, but not by much since Walker doesn’t have huge power or speed.  Not that Roberts does either… Whatever, I don’t like either, stop arguing with me!  2012 Projections:  70/12/80/.270/7

18. Gordon Beckham – Something that hasn’t been reported (or at least by me) is:  Could Ozzie leaving town have a positive impact on some White Sox players?  You know, the guys that he used to ball-bust.  I wouldn’t be shocked if Beckham comes around as a post-hype sleeper just to prove Ozzie wrong.  Am I betting a whole lot that that (stutterer!) is gonna happen?  Oh, hells no!  Beckham just came off a season where 21% of all of his fly balls were infield pop-ups.  That’s terrible.  In my opinion (and, really, if you don’t want my opinion, you’re probably reading the wrong site), a hitter can’t make worst contact than an infield pop.  By drafting Beckham, you’re basically saying that his last two years were a fluke and he’s going to fix everything.  Put the chances of that happening in one hand and the chances of it not happening in the other hand and you have two empty hands.  Can’t really weigh chances.  Maybe you shouldn’t have quit college to become a scale.  2012 Projections:  55/14/70/.260/5

19. Ryan Raburn – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Roberts.  I call this tier, “Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice and shame on you again.  I’m good at displacing blame.”  Bill James still believes.  He has Raburn’s 2012 projections down for 18/4.  Last year was the chance for Raburn to become relevant.  He’s going to be 31 years old for the majority of the 2012 season.  I got better things to do than draft a 31-year-old player who has never shown much of anything.  Not to mention, there’s been talk of him blahtooning with Ramon Santiago.  That’s nice, have fun!  2012 Projections:  40/12/50/.275/3

20. Brian Roberts – I’m sure Brian Roberts never thought he’d be passed on the rankings by a name that people used to mistakenly call him.  Here’s the world’s smallest violin.  Here’s me putting the world’s smallest violin on eBay.  Here’s someone Buying It Now for one cent and playing it just for Brian Roberts.  2012 Projections:  65/5/35/.260/12

After the top 20 2nd basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball, there’s a lot of names but these stand out, for better or worse:

Daniel Murphy – I left him off the top 20 1st basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball and that top 20 went to, like, 30.  Honestly, seriously, Cliff Lee, I can’t imagine drafting Murphy anywhere.  If he hits in the beginning of the year, you can pick him off waivers in most leagues as a hot schmotato.  2012 Projections:  75/12/60/.275/5

Sean Rodriguez – I almost feel the same way about Sean-Rod as I do with Raburn.  Go reread Raburn’s blurb in the passive voice.  The one positive on Sean-Rod that Raburn lacks is age.  Sean-Rod will only be 27 this April.  If there’s no one left on the board, I’d take the flyer and hope Sean-Rod does something.  His K-rate tells me he probably won’t.  2012 Projections:  55/14/65/.230/10

Jose Altuve – I haven’t written a Jose Altuve sleeper post yet, but my Magic Eight Ball says, “There’s a chance you write a sleeper post on Jose Altuve.”  When I bought this Magic Eight Ball in 1989, I never understood why it kept saying that.  In the minors, Altuve showed he could get to double digit power and low 20′s steal-speed.  I’ve seen worse.  You feel me?!  If you do, could you stop?  I hate looking at Astros hitters for anything other than which pitchers to stream against them, but Altuve looks like he could have some sneaky value.  Now to figure out why my Magic Eight Ball keeps telling me to write a sleeper post for Ken Griffey Jr. Jr. Jr.  2012 Projections:  80/12/40/.265/24 (<–crazy optimistic, but whatevs)

71 Responses

  1. sandles says:
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    @Grey
    I can’t go to sleep till I get my fix of the new razzball post every early morning!
    It is driving my wife crazy! lol
    I see you are very excited about Howie Kendrick for 20112. I know you might not give me a answer being you will be releasing the top 100 overall players down the road.
    I thought I would give it a shot any how. What round are you going to be targeting Mr. Kendrick in drafts(12 team mix)?
    Thanks!

  2. sandles says:
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    @Grey
    I can’t go to sleep till I get my fix of the new razzball post every early morning!
    It is driving my wife crazy! lol
    I see you are very excited about Howie Kendrick for 20112. I know you might not give me a answer being you will be releasing the top 100 overall players down the road.
    I thought I would give it a shot any how. What round are you going to be targeting Mr. Kendrick in drafts(12 team mix)?
    Thanks!
    Oh and P.S.
    I type my email wrong. So you will be getting the same question once it passes monderation.

  3. captainpyper says:
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    LudDud- a no hype, one year stud named after Ryan Ludwick. Plural form: LudDuds. Used in a sentence: I hope Morse doesn’t turn out to be a LudDud one-and-done.

    Disclosure: I am long on Aaron Hill.

  4. barker says:
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    oneders for the glossary

  5. Curt says:
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    Keep Kendrick as a 7th rounder in a 14 team mix?????

  6. JoeC says:
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    A “onesie” – A one-year wonder who comes out of nowhere and then returns there.

    Example: I don’t know how you sleep after drafting Casey McGehee as your third baseman last year when he’s obviously a “onesie”. Perhaps because you wear one?

  7. Slap Daddy says:
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    Good rankings so far Grey, really enjoying them. You know what would be super duper awesome though? If you would put auction values with them. Please put that in the idea jar.

  8. TheNewGuy says:
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    A “onehitwonderer”. Ex: Im not drafting Ryan Roberts this year because he’s obviously a “onehitwonderer”.

    Good job with the 2B rankings, think I’ll be happy with any of the top4/Weeks/ Kipnis or lil’ Weeks this year. Dunno what it is about R Weeks, I just love the upside despite his injuries and keep coming back for more…

    Oh and I agree with Slap Daddy the auction values too would be awesome.

  9. El Famous Burrito says:
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    Gordon Beckham and Ryan Raburn…

    *spits on floor*

    Grey, its way too early to get my blood pressure this high.

  10. neogonzo mourning says:
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    LOOGY = “Loser, Only One Good Year”

    “Another golden sombrero for Roberts, hacking up there like the LOOGY he is.”

    “After the steroids drained out of Bob Hamelin’s body, he crusted on the window of the Majors like the LOOGY he always was”

  11. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    Grey, you’ve honestly made this work week a little less unbearable with these rankings… great shizz my friend.

    have a daiquiri on me… (just don’t ask where i got the money… haha)

    loyal razzballer, the dopeman

  12. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

    “Now I’m worried that UPS will want their package back because my hand was shaky when I signed for it.”

    YYESSS!!!!

    Grey – My glossary term vote is “the wonders”. Sentence: Ryan Roberts was a roadie for the “wonders” in 2011, and unlikely to repeat anything besides a horrible neck tattoo.

    The wonders was the band in the HORRIFIC movie with tom hanks called “That thing you do”.

    Google “the wonders” in images…

  13. Danno says:
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    Transvest-hype for the glossary

  14. @Grey
    This has been a great week. Every morning I wake up, roll over, and have a new present on my iphone. Its great to get back into the swing of things.

    You seem bullish on Longoira this year…my only issue with that is what 1Bmen are you targeting if all of the top 5 go in the first round as well?

  15. Ewoks says:
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    Hype-no-toad. Ryan Roberts is such a hypenotoad.

  16. heyzeus says:
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    Where would you put Brett Lawrie on this list? I think he still has 2B eligibility in Yahoo.

  17. Frezdc says:
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    I’m glad to read that someone else thinks that Crazy Guillen was the problem in Chicago, not an enormous amount of bad luck. Being a Phillies fan I remember the effect Larry Bowa had on the team when he was the manager. It must be something about fiery x-shortstops with good gloves and no bats that brings out the worst in players. Right after Bowa was canned, and Uncle Charlie replaced him, the clubhouse relaxed, and the players/team started playing good baseball. I think the same will happen in Chicago. It’s a shame they dismantled that team as much as they did, because we may not get to see the effects of his ousting. What we will get to see is the Miami Marlins completely melt down with Crazy (Guillen and Zambrano), and Lazy (Hanley). They should just go out and sign Milton Bradley and the circle will be complete.

  18. royce! says:
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    Great writeup Grey. I’m really happy for the person who got such a great deal on a miniature violin! Such craftsmanship!

    For the glossary term, all I can think of are one hit wonder bands, so I’m going with calling a one year wonder a “Baha Man,” mostly because I expect that every sports fan will be familiar with their one hit for a long time to come.

    I think I need to keep thinking, though…

  19. L-Boogie says:
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    @royce!: Funny, I was thinking the same thing except I was going to suggest calling the one season wonder a Dexy.

  20. L-Boogie says:
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    Or even better… a Chumbawumba

  21. L-Boogie says:
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    Or you could just totally rip-off Dr. Suess and call him a Once-ler.

    Yes, I’m referencing The Lorax. What do you want from me, I have three little kids. If I ever start making Backyardigans references, THEN you can revoke my privileges.

    OK, three lame suggestions for the day is enough.

  22. Grey

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    @sandles: Ha… Probably around 4th.

    @captainpyper: Not crazy about it.

    @barker: Not bad, will need to be run by Rudy.

    @Curt: Yup

    @JoeC: Not bad, will need to be run by Rudy.

    @Slap Daddy: Rudy will do auction values with his Point Shares.

    @TheNewGuy: One hit wonder isn’t bad, not exactly funny.

    @El Famous Burrito: Ha!

    @neogonzo mourning: I like that, will run it by Rudy. Obviously the one issue it’s also a lefty one out guy.

    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: Thanks!

    @Danno: Not crazy about it.

    @Chicago Mike: Hosmer tier.

    @Ewoks: Not crazy about it, but will run it by Rudy.

    @heyzeus: He didn’t play one game at 2nd last year.

    @Frezdc: Yeah, could be. Bradley — ha!

    @royce!: That’s kinda awesome, I like it. May not even have to run that by Rudy.

    @L-Boogie: Not bad either. royce!’s has man in it though.

    @L-Boogie: Not crazy about it.

  23. chata says:
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    @ Grey :
    nice list .

    @ Grey & All :
    “There should be a glossary term for these type of no hype players that only have one good year. Suggest in the comments.”

    in trying to come up with a glossary term , i have tried to avoid references
    to people/things that don’t (or won’t) stand the test of time .
    there’s not much use in a glossary full of terms that people won’t use .

    thus , while “Baha Man” may be someone’s one-hit wonder , those of us who have never heard of the song (or the band) will tend to forget the term , and regulate it to ‘non-use’ …. (no offense intended , royce) .

    also , established terms like “Scott Down’s Syndrome” , while apropos for a short while , has/will out-live it’s usefulness because many of your readers
    will not remember , or never knew , Scott Downs .

    Jobacum is destined for a similar fate …. but right now it’s anyone’s guess who will be relegated to obscurity 1st , Scherzer or Joba .

    thus , in an effort to keep it ‘ron popeil’ real …. my suggestion for your current definition is … hula-hoopla .

    criticize it , or use it .
    the choice is yours .

    p.s. @ royce
    you’re one of the very few whose opinion i listen to , and consider .
    just think you missed the mark , on this one .

  24. Derek in Utah says:
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    Grey- which Uggla do u think will show up during early part of the season?

    And who knows…maybe he would be more consistent if he grew a ‘stache?

  25. sean says:
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    Ugh, second base is looking like a mine field. What an awful mix of overrated, too old, too young, injury-riddled and schmohawk. Brandon Phillips has been a stand-by for me for a few seasons, and I don’t see that changing too much. He’s reliable, in the middle of the order and you don’t have to pay a premium for his stats because he’s moved off the radar. I just hate targeting a specific player, as opposed to having a value range. For me, it’s kind of Phillips or punt and hope Hill or Johnson or some other schmohawk I can get for free will get it done.

    • Larkin Cunningham says:
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      @sean, i’m not positive but i believe Phillips will be leading off for Cincinnati this season.

  26. Big Magoo says:
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    @Grey: Nice list as always, Grey. If I don’t get Kinsler this year, I’m waiting on Phillips/Utley/Zobrist. I’m surprised you’re down on Zobrist. He looks like a pretty good value, as long as you consider ’10 as an outlier, as I do. I like Kipnis too, but I agree with what you wrote. He’s starting to get a little too buzzy and might get overdrafted.

  27. papasmurf says:
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    Going into 2012, all of my positions, including even UTIL are set with keepers except C, 2B, and SS… typically the most offensively challenged positions… well at least catcher is kinda keeper than usual this year. Wouldn’t it be sweet to have top keepers at those 3 positions and only have to fill the deeper positions?

    All the top 6 or 7 2b will be kept so it looks like I am gonna be waiting a long time to draft one since not much difference among the leftovers. I don’t think I’m going near Hill again. But the way things work if he slips to pick 280 or something I’ll probably end up drafting him.

  28. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @chata: I think why Baha Man works and won’t be dated instantly like some that you mentioned (that have become dated). Baseball games play Baha Men’s stupid song “Who Let the Dogs Out?”

    @Derek in Utah: Only time will tell…

    @sean: Yeah, can understand your strategy. Phillips does seem to get underrated and get it done every year.

    @Big Magoo: Yeah, if you look at ’10 as an outlier.

    @papasmurf: Yeah, and SS is much worse.

  29. Derek in Utah says:
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    Need advice from The Grey-Maestro:

    NL-only league w/ 13 managers, my 3 keepers are: Uggla, Zimmerman, and Kershaw.

    I’ll be drafting next to last, so I’ll get two quick picks; do I go offense or another SP? Maybe both?

  30. JV says:
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    No Johnny Giavotella? Over/Under for Johnny G getting 15 steals?

  31. chata says:
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    @Grey:

    i actually remember that song !
    or rather , those are the only words (to the song) , but i do remember them .

  32. chata says:
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    @chata:

    never knew the band’s name .

  33. Jeff says:
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    I have the chance to trade $34 Youkilis for either a $22 Phillips or a $21 Zorbist. Do I do that or do I stick with my $15 Kelly Johnson?

  34. royce! says:
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    @chata: No worries on my end, thanks for considering my opinion!

    So much for Brandon Allen to the Rays- they just signed Carlos Pena.

  35. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    @chata: @Grey: I agree with the Baha Men statement. I have no idea who or what that is.

  36. Wake Up says:
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    @royce!:…reunited and it feels so good…Longo’s shining his AK-47, uh…I mean MVP trophy already

  37. Wake Up says:
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    btw…I got Baha Man at 9/5 odds on right now…the fact that most people don’t know who sings that song, only strengthens the case for the glossary term…imho…thx…so m…

    PS Robert Goulet did a great version of that song…Who, who, who……whoooooooo? Who let them out?

  38. chata says:
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    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man:

    hula-hoopla apparently contains two references that are even more obscure .

  39. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    @chata: haha i don’t know what that means either… i guess that’s what the glossary is for though… to look up the definition.

  40. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    @chata: @Wake Up: @royce!: fellas, i got a trade question posted in the Forums under the “Trade Talk” section, subject is “Andrew Bailey”. Would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

  41. Wake Up says:
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    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: I always lean towards going for it, this year. Worry about next year, next year. Too many variables/unknowns. You’ll be happy to be rid of him when, Bard/Melancon are getting the saves.

  42. ChillmanCometh says:
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    @Grey & community

    I’m in a 10 team, snake draft, keeper league, every team keeps 4 players, essentially the four keepers are your first four picks, and the draft starts in the 5th round. My keepers are Miggy, Tulo, Kershaw, and Ryan Zimmerman, and I have the third overall pick.

    The players available at my pick are: Cole Hamels, Josh Hamilton, and Dan Uggla.Based on these keepers, who are you taking?

    I’m torn, because I could draft Hamels and not worry about pitching for a long time, take Hamilton and secure a solid OF, or get Uggla and get power from an unlikely source and not have to worry about it for awhile. Ease my woe.

  43. Derek in Utah says:
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    @ ChillmanCometh: My league is very similar, but with only 3 keepers. I’d like to hear Grey’s input, but if it were me I’d grab Uggla. Your infield would be set. Then focus on SP’ing after that.

  44. ChillmanCometh says:
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    @Derek: I’m kind of leaning that way, on Uggla, because I’m certain everyone thinks I’m going Hamels. Plus, getting 50 HRs out of your MI is scary.

    However, I’m not sure I’d go pitching next round. What do you think of this: if Hosmer is available in that next round, do you take him or draft pitching? I’m thinking that I go Hosmer because he has the likelihood of being a better keeper than Zimmerman in the long run.

  45. Frezdc says:
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    As for one hit wonders, the conversation should always begin and end with Rob Van Winkle, AKA Vanilla Ice.

    As in “Raburn is the next to be Van Winkled” or “Sean-Rod is the next Vanilla Ice”.

  46. Derek in Utah says:
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    @Chillman: That is a very tough call. Ask yourself this- will there be any decent pitching left if you drafted Hosmer next? You don’t want to put yourself into a hole with those pitching cats. You have a chance to draft a very solid team.

    We need Grey to chime in. (He’s probably grooming his ‘stache haha)

  47. Griff says:
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    Definition: A Brady One-derson. An homage to Brady Anderson’s 50 HR season. Anderson actually had a decent career, though, unlike the flame out of Ludwick, so there might be some better examples out there.

  48. Grey

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    @Wake Up: Yeah, dreadful.

    @ChillmanCometh: Hamilton or Uggla, in that order.

    @Frezdc: Ha…Not bad, I do like Baha Man better though.

    @Griff: Nice reference, but I do like Baha Man better.

    *****THERE’S A NEW POST.***

  49. Wake Up says:
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    @ChillmanCometh: Uggla. I’d be thinking about moving on from Zimm too.

  50. ChillmanCometh says:
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    @Derek: Feel like SP runs deep, but my league for sure overvalues it. Only two teams don’t have a keeper pitcher, and three teams have two. So I feel like I have a shot at getting value my third time around.

  51. chata says:
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    @Wake Up:
    @Grey:

    what ?!!
    hope her husband is as hot (this year) as her “attitude” .

    am picturing that the only time the towels come off of your heads , is when you’re staying in the closet .
    haha .
    to each his own , i guess .

  52. joet says:
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    No-hype player that has only one good year:

    Haley’s Vomit

  53. genghis chone says:
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    You got any love for Allen Craig this year if he qualifies at 2B? PT might be an issue, but with a full season of ABs (maybe not such a big if backing up Berkman and Beltran, along with some time in CF and possibly 2B) I think he could be a top ten guy.

  54. CT Old School says:
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    Hypelessly Hoping…a little doff of the hat to those of us closer to retirement than puberty.

  55. Grey

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    @chata: Ha

    @joet: Answered on newest post.

    @genghis chone: PT will be an issue, not much love, no.

    @CT Old School: Not crazy about it.

    *****THERE’S A NEW POST FOR FOLLOWUPS.***

  56. steve b says:
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    well Grey about the cruise ship.
    you know
    what “THEY” say about women over 5o.
    they dont tell
    they dont swell
    and they’re grateful as hell

  57. Mad Scientist says:
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    Enjoy your columns, Grey – sound incite mixed with wit.

    I’m thinking Utley will be a good bounce-back value buy this year.

    As for the one-and-done flame out, how ’bout a Hypester Dudfus?

  58. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @steve b: Ha!

    @Mad Scientist: Thanks for the kind words! Not bad, but I like Baha Man better that was suggested above.

  59. Pat says:
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    Grey,
    You’re the best. Thanks for all the great laughs and advice. I’m listening to the Ramones so I think I’ll put something in your drink. You prefer daiquiris, right? A daiquiri for Grey!

  60. Titan says:
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    Random kudos from a big fan. I stumbled on this site 3 years ago and it has since become the top bookmark and the first one I check every day. I’m quite sure you don’t get paid squat for doing this other than feeling good for providing info to 40 year old schmucks like me, but it’s appreciated. Keep up the good work, and don’t ever shave the ‘stache!

  61. Grey

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    @Pat: Thanks!

    @Titan: Thanks for the kind words!

  62. Ralph says:
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    Just an FYI if you’re even considering drafting Brian Roberts: he wasn’t well enough to show up to talk and sign autographs for 30 minutes at this weeks Orioles Fanfest. Doesn’t bode well for his season (or career).

  63. Scoop McLean says:
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    Sorry—waddo I gotta do to get you to look at some of my columns to publish? And why’s there a ‘N’ in the word columns?

    Probably the Russians snuck it in there.

  64. ryloch says:
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    12 team league can keep 4 guys per team. who to keep Ackley 21st rd or Kimbrel 12th ? Other 3 keepers are Kershaw (9th) Price (10th)Hosmer (23rd)

  65. TheRealRandallSimon says:
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    Why the low AVG on Altuve? The dude basically never made an out in the minors last year, and he hit .276 in his first taste of the majors as a 20-year-old. It would seem that he could be a .300 hitter as early as this year and eventually contend for batting titles. But what do I really know? I’m just a guy who loves (would bang, for real) Jose Altuve if it came down to it.

    Anyway, great stuff!

  66. Larkin Cunningham says:
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    Out of all your positional rankings I think 2nd base is your worst. First off, having Kinsler ahead of Pedroia is insulting. Kinsler may have more upside but when you’re talking about a 2nd round pick more value should be put in consistency. I also have a hard time agreeing with Kendrick’s ranking. How can you have him in front of Phillips? Phillips is incredibly consistent and you have him ranked 6th? That seems crazy to me.

    But here’s my biggest issue with these rankings – Last season Walker managed to finish the season as ESPN’s 8th most productive 2nd basemen. Looking at his first two seasons it seems more than likely he will put up the following numbers: 70/14/80/.285/10.

    Those numbers are pretty consistent with his first two seasons. That means that there’s a decent possibility he could improve his numbers. If that were to happen he could easily find himself among the top 5 or 6 2nd basemen by the season’s end. I wouldn’t expect anyone to rank him that high but 17th is way too low. In my opinion the rankings should look like this:

    1 – Cano
    2 – Pedroia
    3 – Kinsler
    4 – Uggla
    5 – Phillips
    6 – Young (if he qualifies at 2nd)
    7 – Cuddyer (if he qualifies at 2nd)
    8 – Utley
    9 – R. Weeks
    10 – Zobrist
    11 – Kendrick
    12 – Walker
    13 – K. Johnson
    14 – Ackley
    15 – Kipnis

    Just my opinion though.

  67. Larkin Cunningham says:
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    One other thing: based on your projections for Espinosa shouldn’t he be in the top 7? You’re expecting a monster year from him, huh? I’m expecting significant regression, perhaps to the point where he completely falls off of the map.

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