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You’re gonna find this utterly incredible, but, with these top 100 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball, I’ve put out all of my 2014 fantasy baseball rankings.  Tomorrow will be the top 100 overall, then the top 400 overall, but that’s just putting everyone in perspective.  I’m going to now soak my finger bunions in pickle juice and read a good book.  Anyone read the Charles Nelson Reilly autobiography?  I hear it’s a real eye grabber.  Oh, guess I should finish this post first.  As always, my projections are included and where tiers start and stop.  Anyway, here’s the top 100 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball:

81. Nathan Eovaldi – I called this tier, “Lottery tickets.”  This tier started in the top 80 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball and ends at Bradley.  He’s in the same ball of wax as Cashner and Wily Peralta (Eovaldi wasn’t included in previous posts because he hasn’t pitched close to a full season).  Somehow he threw 96+ MPH, which is up there with the best in the majors, and only had a 6.60 K-rate.  Here’s a hint for all you hard-throwing non-K specialists, stop throwing so many strikes.  If Edinson Volquez was hired to be the pitching coach in Miami, Eovaldi would be a 9+ K-rate guy…and have 5+ walks per nine, an ERA over 6 and accidentally throw a pitch into the broadcast booth.  If Eovaldi can put his shizz together, he could be a number two fantasy starter.  I likey, but more likely… 2014 Projections:  7-11/3.78/1.34/144

82. Alex Wood – The good — he’s young, he gets strikeouts, groundballs and could be a number one fantasy ace.  The downside, I might’ve just ranked my first middle reliever.  Wouldn’t be shocked at all if the Braves put him in a bullpen role for most of 2014.  I imagine at some point during the summer I’ll be saying something like, “Hey, guys and four girls, Alex Wood is now in the rotation, grab him!”  Then further in the future saying, “Hey, peeps and four peepettes, Wood’s back in the bullpen, drop him.”  Then further in the future saying, “Hey, gentlemen and four gentle ladies, did you see that flying car?  It looked like a bird.  Member those?  They were around before the bird-eating trees sprouted all over the planet.”  2014 Projections:  8-2/3.71/1.31/141

83. Marco Estrada – There will be at least one if not more pitchers from this tier that shoot up the rankings for next year.  Estrada could be one of those guys.  He almost snuck into the tier in the top 60 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball of guys that were ‘Thisclose.’  The problem is Estrada’s Mr. Dreaded Three-Run Homer.  It’s hard to keep your ERA respectable when you’re Mr. Dreaded Three-Run Homer unless you pitched 9 innings every start and only give up one dreaded three-run homer.  Another issue, he’s gonna be 31 years old and he’s never pitched more than 138 1/3 innings in a season.  So, he’s capable of a fantasy number two season, but is likely a streamer that’s good for a month or two here and there.  Sky also went over his Marco Estrada sleeper.  2014 Projections:  8-7/3.60/1.12/124

84. Dan Straily – Another thing this tier has in common is the unlikelihood (which was the lesser-seen sequel to Boyz n da Hood) that any of these guys pitch 175+ innings.  If they were to pitch 175 innings, then they would be in a higher tier.  All the guys, that is, except Straily.  I could see him getting 175 innings.  He’s being shortchanged a bit due to his track record of never throwing 200 innings in the major leagues.  He really should be up there in Quintana’s tier.  Yay.  The reason why he’s a lottery ticket is at one point he was the minor league K leader.  It’s very3 doubtful he ever gets those types of Ks again, but there ya go.  2014 Projections:  12-11/3.88/1.28/145

85. Jake Odorizzi – With the news that Hellickson needs elbow surgery coupled with the news that elbow surgery is bad for pitchers, Odorizzi gets a looksie.  I’m not sure how long Odorizzi will stay in the rotation because A) Hellickson could return. B) Maddon likes to give everyone a look.  Maybe he’s waiting for a compliment on his glasses.  C) There’s no C.  Even if Odorizzi stays in the rotation all year (very doubtful), he hasn’t shown a whole lot yet in the majors.  2014 Projections:  7-6/3.79/1.25/104 in 130 innings

86. Alex Torres – Boing!  You sexy, Torres, I want to have your Torres babies and move to Curacao and open a Jamba Juice with our babies doing all the work while I collect the money.  Alas, he might be nothing but a middle reliever this year.  A dang good middle reliever, but a middle reliever never the hooless.  I’d definitely gamble a dollar on him and do think he will be worthwhile to own even if he doesn’t start.  2014 Projections:  4-2/3.12/1.08/71, 3 saves in 69 innings

87. Tyson Ross – A) A number one starter on the Padres may not win ten games.  B) Ross has never thrown more than 125 IP in a major league season and he’s already going to be 27.  C) There’s no C.  D) These were the reasons I originally didn’t rank him, but due to popular demand and Sky’s Tyson Ross sleeper post, I decided to add him (plus I was here adding Doubront anyway).  2014 Projections:  7-6/3.72/1.30/133

88. Felix Doubront – Due to Dempster’s inability to live up to JB’s hype and the undue pressure that has put on him, Dempster’s taking the season off to spend time with his family and track down JB and tell him to stop calling him a sleeper.  Because of the Dempster/JB triangle that’s more like a parallel line, Doubront should get into the Sox rotation.  2014 Projections:

89. Carlos Martinez – The Cardinals have #firstplaceinthestandingsproblems.  There’s no way Carlos Martinez gets in the rotation for any lengthy amount of time.  He also didn’t show much while in the bullpen last year, but I’m willing to overlook that due to such a small sample size (that’s what she said).  I’m guessing you’ll see Martinez get about seven starts all year and around seventy innings in the bullpen.  2014 Projections:  8-5/3.22/1.14/89 in 105 innings

94. Cory Luebke – The Padres GM said Luebke might pitch out of the bullpen to start 2014.  Well, technically he said, “Hey, I don’t want to give our fans any false hope.  Would I prefer to have our best pitcher in the rotation?  Sure.  But what if we win a three game series in April?  What kind of message does that send?  That we’re winners.  That would be lying.  Not cool.” UPDATE:  Out with Tommy John surgery.  Damn you, Tommy John!   2014 Projections:  5-7/3.34/1.11/98

90. Derek Holland -  He was ranked about forty spots higher before he needed (kneeded?) surgery and was ruled out until the All-Star break.  Honestly, I never really liked him anyway, so it gives us (me) an excuse to bury him in the rankings.  2014 Projections:  6-2/3.61/1.29/91

91. Brandon Morrow -  Pencil him in right now for seven of the best starts you’ve ever seen, five of the worst starts and a trip to the Disgraceful List after revealing he was pitching his last three starts without a gall bladder.  2014 Projections:  8-6/3.95/1.32/90

92. Kyle Drabek – Last year he had a 11.57 K/9…WHOA!…It was in two and a third innings…OH.  If Drabek can convince himself the baseball season is made up of 100 different two and third inning increments, we could be in for a huge breakout.  Of course that would mean he’d also give up about 250 walks and have an ERA over 19.  Quibble, quibble, you.  2014 Projections:  6-10/4.21/1.37/95

93. Jameson Taillon – I already went over my Jameson Taillon fantasy.  It was written in pencil then I copied it over in pen.  2014 Projections:  8-5/3.72/1.25/98 in 105 IP

94. Archie Bradley – I already went over my Archie Bradley fantasy.  I wrote it while debating the merits of a ride-along Roomba.  2014 Projections:  6-5/4.14/1.34/85 in 90 innings

95. Zach McAllister – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the end of the list.  I call this tier, “Throw it on auto-draft and go have sex with your loved one.  It doesn’t matter.”  Some time when you can’t sleep ask a ‘pert for an explanation for why they drafted Zach McAllister.  Good times!  “Well, see, he could be a solid addition to my AL-Only–”  *snooze*  “I really like his 6.77 K/9–”  *snore*  “He does the small things–”  *let out a sleep fart* 2014 Projections:  10-12/4.07/1.35/140

96. Trevor Cahill – If a 8+ K/9 coupled with a 2+ BB/9 gets in my good graces, Cahill’s 6+ K/9 with a near-4 BB/9 has me scratching my be-gentle-with stuff.  2014 Projections:  10-12/4.11/1.38/129

97. A.J. Griffin – This is what I said last year, “Alfredo Jettuccine gave up a league leading 36 homers in 2013.  Imagine if he would’ve pitched his home games in Coors.  He would’ve challenged the pre-World War II record by Jasper “Toothy” Jennings, who gave up 156 homers in one year.  Toothy, you might remember, was banned from the game after Kenesaw Mountain Landis found teeth marks on his wife’s inner thigh.”  And that’s me quoting me!  That doesn’t mean anything, but it made me giggle.  Kudos to my monkey ghostwriters.  For Griffin to get his ERA down to the low 3′s, he needs to stop throwing meatballs and getting creamed, which might be an issue for a guy named after fettuccine alfredo.  He does play in the park where they hired Lorena Bobbitt to shorten its name from Oh-It’s-Big.co to O.co, so it’s possible.  UPDATE:  Alfredo Jettuccine has elbow problems.  2014 Projections:  9-10/4.14/1.26/118

98. Wei-Yin Chen – It’s funny how excited I’ll get about some of these guys during the season when they’re on waivers compared to how apathetic I am about them now.  Not funny ha-ha, more like funny “Hmm, your thinkings interest me.” 2014 Projections:  10-12/4.11/1.29/144

99. Charlie Morton – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Re-signed with the Pirates.  Char-Mo isn’t just a now-defunct charcoal grill accessories store extension to Bev-Mo, but is a pitcher that no one wants on their fantasy team, until they’re down 6-4 in their H2H league and Char-Mo’s pitching on Sunday.  I feel ya on that.  Not literally, you don’t have to wash your hair.  Nothing exciting about Morton for fantasy.  About as average as can be.”  And that’s me copying and pasting me!  2014 Projections:  9-8/3.81/1.31/103

100. Edinson Volquez – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Signed with the Pirates.  Here’s Major League Baseball sitting at the poker table with Ray Searage, pitching coach for the Pirates.  We see what you did with Francisco Liriano and we raise you…Edinson Volquez!  The crowd goes silent.  The odds pop up on the screen for a sub-3.00 ERA turning over on the river.  Ooh, 5,000 to 1.  And Ray pulls a ’190 Ks in 2014′ card to win!  Incredible!”  And that’s me plagiarizing me!  BTW, is it me or is it weird to make plagiarizing such a hard word to spell?  You’re forced to copy it from somewhere else.  2014 Projections:  10-12/4.27/1.51/159

After the top 100 starters for 2014 fantasy baseball, there’s a lot of names but here’s a few that stand out:

Kris Medlen – Medlen’s getting the short end of the there’s-so-many-effin-starters stick.  He’s around the 35th best starter, but I just couldn’t find a way to squeeze him into the last two starter posts.  He lacks any real upside, which is odd considering how terrific his 2012 was (1.57 ERA in 138 IP).  The problem, his upside is fairly neutral with a below average fastball.  He can’t be a 8+ K-rate, sub-2 ERA guy over the course of a season with an 89-ish MPH fastball.  Though, he is damn effective.  He’s also safe for a 3.50-ish ERA, which just goes back to my original point I’ve made about fourteen dozen times, don’t draft top starters.  UPDATE:  Kris would be okay if not for those Medlen forearms.  2014 Projections:  8-3/3.89/1.23/104

Jon Niese – I’m sure there will be a few weeks, maybe even months, when he’s a capable fantasy starter for all leagues.  At that point, I’ll sniff him out on waivers like I’m wearing his old nose.  UPDATE:  Injured elbow which isn’t Niese, I mean nice.  2014 Projections:  8-9/3.87/1.37/112

Jhoulys Chacin – The bad news is he had a 5.75 K-rate last year and he pitches in Coors.  The good news is you don’t have to be the one to try and spell Jhoulys to a Starbucks barista.  UPDATE:  Shoulder inflammation in the spring.  So a pitcher you didn’t want, you now really don’t want.  2014 Projections:  9-7/4.03/1.33/107

Jaime Garcia – I heard Garcia said he’s gonna be healthy this year.  Weird how no one else is saying it.  2014 Projections:  8-4/3.84/1.31/104

Danny Duffy – Fun fact!  Duffy woke up from a dream to realize the whole 2011 season when he had a 5.64 ERA never happened.  Or he’s severely delusional.  2014 Projections:  6-10/4.22/1.37/110

Carlos Carrasco – Fun Fact, Part II!  On Carrasco’s side, it lists his ingredients:  water, vinegar and hot peppers.  2014 Projections:  5-9/4.31/1.35/112

Tyler Thornburg – Last year, he had a 2.03 ERA.  You don’t want to know anymore or it’ll just ruin it.  2014 Projections:  8-11/4.01/1.31/137

Jarred Cosart – His walk rate was bigger than his K-rate, so, without sliding my finger across the screen to his xFIP compared to his 1.95 ERA, I’m gonna guess he was a tad lucky.  Tad Lucky was also the AVN Male Up-And-Comer of the Year.  2014 Projections:  6-12/4.42/1.42/94

Jeremy Hellickson – After the news came out that he’d be out until May with elbow surgery, Rudy said finally Hellickson’s April FIP will match his April ERA.  Yup.  2014 Projections:  6-8/4.43/1.28/86

Jenrry Mejia – Jenrry had terrific numbers last year — 8.89 K/9, 1.32 BB/9 and a 2.30 ERA.  Only catch was it was in only 27 1/3 IP and in previous years he never came close to those numbers.  There’s a chance here for a lot more than this, but it’s hard to project a guy for a ton when he’s never had more than 40 innings in the major leagues.  2014 Projections:  5-7/3.89/1.24/89

Phil Hughes – Here’s what I said this offseason about Hughes, “To the Twins.  A change of scenery could do him well.  It would be even better if he were going to be pitching in Kyrgyzstan where the hitters are goats with fly swatters taped to their leg.  Hughes in the American League is still only going to get us so far.  It is better that he’s out of New York.  That stadium wasn’t doing him any favors.  He had more gopher balls than a spay & neutering doctor who specializes in rodents and was on a very special Hoarders.  Hughes has been terrific in Hubert H. Homerfree Retrodome, but that was against a Twins team that would be improved with a few fly-swatting goats playing on the left side of the infield.  Plouffe goes the insult!  In 375 2/3 IP, he had a 4.10 ERA in away games.  That sounds about right.  He’ll need to get lucky to beat that by a lot.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2014 Projections:  8-12/4.01/1.25/160

Josh Beckett – Member last year when JB said Beckett was a sleeper?  Ah, we had some good laughs, over-the-internet friend.  A good hardy-har-har or two.  And here we are again.  Instead of Beckett, I could’ve just as easily listed John “Maybe I’ll Get Lucky” Lackey, Mike “I Gotta Take A” Leake, Ross “Dress For Less” Detwiler, Jeff “Niemann!” Niemann, “Raising” Jason Vargas, Bruce “Not Joyce” Chen, Wade “Be” Davis, Bronson “I Make My Fastball Work By Throwing A 47 MPH Changeup” Arroyo, Barry “You Call That A Changeup, Arroyo, Looks Like A Fastball To Me” Zito, Mark “Once A Year I Throw A Gem” Buehrle, All Hodgepadres, Gavin “MacLeod” Floyd or I could’ve listed any other veteran pitcher here, and I kinda just did.  2014 Projections: 9-7/4.24/1.29/109

  1. brian says:
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    grey your awsome

    • Macdaddyofmac says:
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      @brian: lol

    • Birrrdy! says:
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      @brian: yeah, this is frickin incredible. I wish to hell no one else in my league knows about this site, but it’s hard to hide when I wear my Razzball t-shirt to the draft the year after I won it all. I am TERRIBLE at evaluating pitching, but Grey is by far the best (except for me drafting Marco Estrada last year, but that is all forgiven). ;)

  2. SMLV1 says:
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    How would you improve this team…

    C -Y. molina
    1b – Goldy, Rizzo, (B. Moss, Lind)….dropped O. Yavares to pick up Rizzo…some idiot dropped Rizzo.
    2b – B. Phillips, (B. Miller)
    3b – Wright, Panda. Moustakas
    SS- Simmons (B. Miller)
    OF – Stanton, Choo, Rios, Holliday and (B. Moss)

    SP – Latos,M. Moore, Fister, E. Santana, Z. Wheeler, B. Beachy…Traded my Garza for M. Moore straight up

    RP – Rosenthal and Papelbon

    Plan on dropping Lind for Farq or Hunter as a third closer.

    What is my biggest need..Y! Standard League.

    • Macdaddyofmac says:
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      @SMLV1: pitching is atrocious. I’d improve your team by having drafted some pitchers a bit earlier. You guys take this strategy too far. And if this is a 10-teamer…it’s even worse.

      • AA says:
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        @Macdaddyofmac: How would that strategy have worked last year with Verlander or Hamels or Cain?

      • centerfield ballhawk says:
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        @Macdaddyofmac: How is his pitching atrocious? Plenty of pitching in a ten teamer.

        • Macdaddyofmac says:
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          @centerfield ballhawk: I mean assuming that these rankings aren’t etched in stone like everyone else seems to think, it’s bad. Latos is not a #1 in a yahoo standard league. Moore isn’t a 2, etc

          • Dead Heads says:
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            @Macdaddyofmac: He’s got plenty of hitters that should be really good to make up for the pitching if it gets ugly. And there’s always some waiver wire guys that end up making it into the top30 or 40. Honestly, I don’t see why people think they need to leave the draft with every single position figured out or locked down. That’s just not what needs to happen. He loaded up on hitting and still got a pretty decent staff out of it, I mean there are other guys I like better but you can always trade or stream whatever. It’s not the end of the world because his hitters are so strong.

          • Robby D says:
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            @Macdaddyofmac: It’s not ridiculous and after two years of dominating my league (10 team 6 Keeper H2H with 7×7) I won’t go back. Everyone keeps at least 2 pitchers, and some even keep a reliever. The last two years I’ve kept 0 pitchers, and haven’t taken a pitcher before the 8th round and have finished in the top half of pitching by streaming while killing almost all offensive stats. You are more likely to get a half dozen impact arms coming out of the minors than impact bats. I streamed starts by Cashner, Jo-Fer, and Cingrani last year.

            My best pitchers were Matt Moore (8th round), Lester (20th round or maybe later), Iwakuma (14th round I think), Bailey (15th round) and complete punting on relivers, still finished 4th in aggregate pitching stats.

            With streaming and playing underrated pitchers it’s easy to get average stats and crush your opponents offensively.

            It’s the fantasy equivalent of playing moneyball.

            • Robby D says:
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              @Robby D: Oh I forgot, I am also sold more on this philosophy because the one guy I did reach for was Jarod Parker (10th or 11th round) and I paid for that one badly.

              Yeah I’ll punt top pitching and destroy you 9 times out of 10 during the regular season by streaming.

              • Macdaddyofmac says:
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                @Robby D: in a legitimate league you’re not streaming your way to first place. You need to try this on better competition.

                • Robby D says:
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                  @Macdaddyofmac: Must be nice as the arbiter of legitimacy. I’ve used this tactic in 12 team auction drafts as well and just send RP after RP to the draft block to let people overspend on pitching. When 90+% of people value hitting and pitching equally, there is an opportunity given the difference between pitchers 10 rounds apart is much narrower than hitters 10 rounds apart.

                  It’s really not that extreme.

                  Here’s a great lesson:

                  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1789713-fantasy-baseball-5-important-lessons-from-2013-you-should-carry-into-2014#articles/1789713-fantasy-baseball-5-important-lessons-from-2013-you-should-carry-into-2014

                  Who were the top 10 ADP pitchers last year?

                  Verlander, Kershaw, Strasburg, Hernandez, Price, Cain, Hamels, Weaver, Lee, Gio Gonzalez.

                  How many of them finished in the top 10? 3

                  More importantly, how many finished outside the top 100 overall? 6

                  How many ouperformed their ADP? 1 – Kershaw. That’s it. If you even punted 4-5 rounds you probably had a better pitching staff just on luck, not to mention you probably had a better offensive club than the guys who kept/drafted early pitchers.

                  For all your arrogance, I haven’t seen a shred of evidence to back up your view, since the past 3 years minimum bear out this view of punting on pitching. It wouldn’t be shocking if less than half of the top 10 ADP pitchers this year actually return real value for where they are drafted. How many of this year’s top 10 ADP pitchers will even match the value of that ADP? 2-3?

                  I’m sure you would bet all your over the internet dollars that you are smarter when it comes to drafting than half the people here, but you haven’t shown anything besides internet toughness and condescension, and those aren’t two of the stats in any leagues I’ve been apart of. I’m sure you come in first place in those league though.

                  • Macdaddyofmac says:
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                    @Robby D: very clever. Thanks for the manifesto.

                    • Robby D says:
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                      @Macdaddyofmac:

                      Very clever of you. Call it a manifesto so it looks like obsession instead of what it actually is: empirical evidence from last year. I’m not going to look up 2011 and 2012 right now, but because the same thing happened in those years as happened in 2013 I adopted this advice as a result. I had always punted a little bit, but the numbers should convince you, not my arguments.

                      If you drafted two of the top 10 ADP pitchers, you did not get great value and at best you were just below break even. That’s been true for 3 years at least now. Within another 2-3 years ESPN may actually catch on, but by then it will probably shift in another direction and they will remain behind the curve clutching that security blanket that is conventional wisdom.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      You Should Really Stop Talking And Start Learning

                • Bream Dream says:
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                  @Macdaddyofmac
                  Sounds like you have it all figured out. You could’ve stopped reading after the top 20 pitchers. Yet, here you are.

                • Ken says:
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                  @Macdaddyofmac: Since you’re into legitimacy, you’ll have no issue putting your superior FBB wisdom to the test by signing up for a RCL. Do us all the favor of posting what league you’re in, and with any luck Oaktown Steve will take you to task like he did me last year. We’ll all tip our caps if you can finish in the top quarter of all 700+ players.

          • AA says:
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            @Macdaddyofmac: You don’t need a #1 pitcher…that’s the point.

      • Chris says:
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        Gotta agree I don’t think the pitching is too bad.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @SMLV1: The pitching isn’t bad, assuming 12 teams…But have no idea…

      • SMLV1 says:
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        @Grey: It is a 12 team standard league. It was an autopick draft. I like to work with what I get sometimes.

    • Grey

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      @SMLV1: Your starters last year gave up 335 runs in 909 innings, that’s a 3.32 ERA. Assuming Beachy pitches more than 30 innings this year, I’d say you’re at least in a place to succeed. Unless I’m missing something, it doesn’t seem atrocious.

      • SMLV1 says:
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        @Grey: Not missing a thing. Thank you for the math and thanks everyone for the entertaining and insightful argument.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem…

  3. Dave Falk says:
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    morrow has top 40 potential, even with injury history, surprised he’s ranked this low

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Dave Falk: history and history leave him here, 2 years of back to back injury years

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dave Falk: even when healthy, I don’t think he gets there. Too volatile.

    • Robby D says:
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      @Dave Falk: It’s that kind of thinking that made me draft him 3 years ago and 2 years ago. I’ve licked that wound too many times to pick him up as anything other than a streamer.

  4. Count de Monetball says:
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    I can’t believe “enter name here” was not in ur top 100 pitchers. “Enter name here” has to be better than some other guys on this list like “enter other name”! This is a travesty, I’m going back to SNAFU Larry! Can’t wait for the first TRUM report. **rubs fingers together like a mad scientist** no beer and no TV make Count something something…

    • Macdaddyofmac says:
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      @Count de Monetball: yes that pretty much sums up the comments. That and a whole lot of uncomfortable sexual undertones: “oh grey you’re awesome” “grey that was hilarious” “How’d you get so funny?” “pitching so so deep. Grey said it, let’s repeat over and over…and over. I think grey could take over the world with this site lol

      • centerfield ballhawk says:
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        @Macdaddyofmac: I’m sure you won all of your fantasy leagues by twelve touchdowns last season. Congratulations, Trolldaddysnark.

      • Sky

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        @Macdaddyofmac: ‘Grey that was hilarious’ and ‘Grey you’re awesome’ are uncomfortable sexual undertones? Don’t dance, you might get pregnant.

        And BTW, I ME MY trended the ‘Pitching Is So Deep’. If you’re going to be crapping on someone for that, you can at least crap on the right person.

      • Prez says:
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        @Macdaddyofmac: why are you even here? Kinda contradicting when youre talking shit all day, yet you are on razzball too… Hater…

      • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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        @Macdaddyofmac: yikes… up in the middle of the night and that mad at the world, feel sorry for you bro

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @J-FOH: Ha, I’m better now… Thanks Jack!

  5. hotlanta says:
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    Grey

    Any hope for that Fireballin leftie Duffy. I know where you ranked him… but whats the odds it all comes together? Or does he just not have enough stuff?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @hotlanta: he has a decent ceiling and could be a nice end of the draft flyer but don’t bank on anything more than what we got here.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @hotlanta: He’s been hideous so far in his career, could turn it around, would like to see it first…

  6. Jan Nevim says:
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    So Ivan Nova doesn’t crack your top 100? The kid flashed some solid stuff last year.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Jan Nevim: he’s a streamer with a high LOB%

  7. Bitchesbeshoppach says:
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    Thanks grey, keep up the great work. It’s much appreciated.

  8. de nachos says:
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    Random 6AM observation: you wield the exclamation point very well(!). Usually when other writers use it I feel like they’re talking to me like I’m a puppy.

    In a 12 team 6X6 w OBP/SLG and QS/K-9, rather keep Desmond at 17 or is Iwakuma to big a bargain at 5?

    grassy-ass

  9. trick dad says:
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    Will Ivan nova and mike leake have starting gigs all season?

  10. TheNewGuy says:
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    So. Much. Pitching.

    Look forward to the top 150 starter post next year!

    • Macdaddyofmac says:
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      @TheNewGuy: lol

  11. Stock says:
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    Thanks for the info Question, please. Trying to use the War Room figures from last year. With the shortage of HR this year and the expected crop of good SP would the top numbers be changed? Assuming 12 team, would the top HR number be lower than last years 211 total and the K number be increased higher than 1338. Also SB would be the same-163? Thanks

    • Ferga says:
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      @Stock: Was just wondering if the War Room will be updated this year…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Stock: I thought you were gonna do the War Room, didn’t I give you my email?

  12. mike says:
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    Hey Grey!
    In a 10 team h2h 5×5 league with 6 keepers, which 2 would you drop?
    Goldy
    Harper
    Votto
    Stanton
    Scherzer
    Bumgardner
    Choo
    Segura

    Thanks for the help!

    • Hawk says:
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      @mike:

      Segura, Bumgarner

      Painful choice though

    • centerfield ballhawk says:
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      @mike: I would drop Choo, personally. Segura plays a shallower position. Choo or Bum G. for me.

    • Cram It says:
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      @mike: I’d drop Choo and Bumgardner. Plenty of pitching in a 10 teamer

      • mike says:
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        @Cram It:
        Thanks for the input guys! It’s gonna be a tough choice for sure..

        • J-FOH says:
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          @mike: Choo and Bum

      • Macdaddyofmac says:
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        @Cram It: Bumgardner lol…plenty of everything in a 10 teamer

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @mike: Choo, Bum

    • KrazyCeltic says:
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      @mike: I would drop Stanton and Bumgarner. Bumgarner, because pitching is deep this year so you necessarily need to carry two early-round ace-type pitchers. Stanton I would drop because he only really contributes in one category: HR. He doesn’t chip in AVG and SB. His RBI will not be what they should be for his power, due to the rather putrid Marlins offense around him. You can spare the power because you are keeping Votto, Goldschmidt, and Harper. Choo gets the edge over Stanton because Choo is a multi-cat guy (20/20 type) with upside in his lineup and home park.

      • mike says:
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        @KrazyCeltic:
        Especially considering his last year performance.. Its still tough to bet against a young guy with so much power potential.
        I was kinda hoping some of you would say drop the pitchers and keep all 6 hitters. I know that sounds kinda crazy, but I’m not counting on scherzer repeating last year.

  13. jvetter says:
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    I am assuming you have no love for Wade Miley given that he wasn’t ranked (Not even mentioned in the blurb at the end). Do you have any thoughts on him?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @jvetter: I don’t like him, low Ks, walking going up…

  14. CheezWhit says:
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    Ubaldo? He scares the hell out of me too but he had 194 K’s last year and was really good down the stretch. Surprised he didn’t make the top 60.

    • Eddy says:
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      @CheezWhit: he’s number 60

  15. Shibboleth says:
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    If you had to keep Wacha or Cingrani in the 20th round of a 12-team QS/Solds league, which would it be? Already keeping Anibal (16) and Cole (29). I like Cingrani’s Ks but also worry about his innings/1-pitch repertoire. Wacha might get better ratios and quality starts… I’m conundrummed…

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @Shibboleth: Then pick Wacha. Much safer option.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Shibboleth: Sounds like you answered your own question.

    • shibboleth says:
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      @Shibboleth: Thanks, fellas!

  16. Joel says:
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    Have the next pick in slow draft. Points league

    Heyward, Gordon, machado, hosmer

    Don’t pick again for 17 picks after this one. Thoughts?

    • Shibboleth says:
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      @Joel: if you don’t have a 1b, then Hosmer has 25/15 upside and is maturing. But heyward has 30/20 ups… I’d lean heyward, personally.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Joel: Hosmer

      • KrazyCeltic says:
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        @J-FOH: I like Hosmer also. You want to have one of the better 1B. But really, the answer depends on how many 1B or OF you have already drafted. If you already have one of the top 1B from earlier, go with one of the steady outfielders instead.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @KrazyCeltic: I assumed he didn’t have one because he listed one. But regardless he’s the best player available

  17. rotorankers.tumblr.com says:
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    I would not be surprised if Bradley is this year’s Gerrit Cole. Pressure on the Dbacks to use him after not signing Tanaka, Garza, etc. If he breaks camp (I think he can), he could be dynamite.

  18. TheNewGuy says:
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    No Tyson Ross on the list?

    • Macdaddyofmac says:
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      @TheNewGuy: no

    • Cram It says:
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      @TheNewGuy: Don’t see him.

      • TheNewGuy says:
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        @Cram It: Then why not? Great numbers last yea when he was in the rotation, good K numbers and he’s in Petco.

        • Cram It says:
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          @TheNewGuy: You look at his numbers throughout his career, including the minors and you tell me. Also tell me if your league will be drafting 100 SP’s. If they are, then draft Tyson Ross instead of Henry Mejia.

          • TheNewGuy says:
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            @Cram It: Look at his numbers from last year and then you tell me. Threw harder and he either improved his slider or just threw it more. Great K rate and didn’t walk man + Petco = an ostrich. No wait thats Grey maths, I mean = sleeper

            • Cram It says:
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              @TheNewGuy: Ok, I’ll tell you, he had all of 16 starts last year. You want to crown him awesome….oh wait, you’re just huffing and puffing about THE 100TH RANKED SP.

              • TheNewGuy says:
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                @Cram It: Not huffing and puffing about anything, just saying he’d a sleeper and should be ranked. Not my opinion anyway, read quite a few articles saying the same and the numbers back it up! Jerk.

                • Cram It says:
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                  @TheNewGuy: Oh it’s not your opinion? So you’re saying he should be ranked ONE HUNDREDTH! based on someone else’s opinion. Way to think for yourself. Looking forward to seeing your 15 catcher questions a day once the season starts. P.S. I hate you.

                  • SwaggerJackers says:
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                    @Cram It:

                    It smells like trolls in here.

                  • TheNewGuy says:
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                    @Cram It: I didn’t think psychopaths browsed these types of sites. Obviously I was wrong.

  19. Bitchesbeshoppach says:
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    Who would you keep out of kipnis, beltre and wainwright? I’m already keeping Trout and Cargo

      • Bitchesbeshoppach says:
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        So kipnis over beltre? I was thinking beltre since he’s ranked in Greys top 20

  20. Corey says:
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    Will the War Room return this year? If so, when?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Corey: I need someone to make the War Room excel file… I never made it and I haven’t heard from the people who did make it previous year’s… If anyone wants to step up, now is the time…

      • Spammer Jay says:
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        @Grey: I’m making printable tiers sheet already (just missing relievers). I can do the war room, but I cant enter 400 stat-lines manually. I’ll split the work on google docs with some people though. (unless grey you have the projected stats in excel already, then I can do it pretty easily)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Could ask Stock above… Not sure…

          • Spammer Jay says:
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            @Grey: Any idea when your 2014 preseason projections (in the stats section) will be uploaded? I can use that.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              2 days

              • Spammer Jay says:
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                @Grey: cool. I should be able to get it done by Sat then.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  That would be awesome!

    • Spammer Jay says:
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      @Corey: were you actually able to use it during your draft? For me it was useless because you have 2 or 3 min to make your pick most of the time and I hated trying to keep a spread sheet up to date when I could easily just mark players off with a pen and paper. I suppose in a slow at home draft it could work, but those days are over for 90% I think.

  21. Joet says:
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    Grey,

    Do not see Nova or T Ross.

    Care to elaborate on why they fall short?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Joet: They’re streamers

  22. L-Boogie says:
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    Stupid question.

    I’ve been playing in the same league for 10 years. We use 7 Ps. Most guys go with a 5SP/2RP format to start the season. I won last year (had to throw that in).

    This year I’m joining a new league that uses 9 SPs (like most leagues it seems) and having been in the other league for so long I forgot how they usually work. In a standard 12-14 team, 5×5, 9P league, how do most teams split it up, SP vs RP. 7-2? 6-3? I’m not talking about your fancy streaming/loading up on RP strategies that many of you employ. I’m asking about your average FBBer in the 9P format. I’m not necessarily going to do the same thing, I just want to know what my competitors will probably do.

    Thanks.

    • Cram It says:
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      @L-Boogie: You won’t know what your competitors will do until they do it. You said it has 9 SP but you really mean 9 pitching slots, not 9 SP. Managers will run the gamut of how they split that.

      • L-Boogie says:
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        @Cram It: Yes, my bad. I meant 9P, not 9SPs.

        I thought there would be some standard split that many managers across most leagues use. I guess not. Thanks.

        • Cram It says:
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          @L-Boogie: I’ve seen managers punt saves and go all SP, and I’ve seen them go all MR’s, etc. It really depends.

          • L-Boogie says:
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            @Cram It: I hear ya. But I imagine those scenarios are the outliers. Maybe 0-2 owners per league employ those strategies. Maybe a few more in leagues like the RCLs and more experiences leagues. I’m asking what the rest of them typically do. But if there is “typical” scenario, then so be it.I know most of the managers in my new league WILL NOT be going that way.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @L-Boogie: really depends on what your draft gives you but I would say 6/3 or 5/4, if you go 6/3 you will most likely drop your 6th starter and grab a RP anyway….or stream

            • Q says:
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              @L-Boogie:

              “Conventional wisdom” will be 6 SP, 3RP. And a couple guys will go all one or the other. So, plan your strategy as the draft goes along to figure out how to beat “conventional wisdom.”

    • Bombo Rivera says:
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      @L-Boogie: It really depends. Is it a daily or weekly league? In many daily leagues, people stuff their lineups with RPs and only use their starters when they pitch. Are there limits on games started or IP? That can change things as well.

      I think that in a weekly league with no IP or GS limits, the most common ratio is 6-3. That changes over the course of the season as people chase different categories.

      • L-Boogie says:
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        @Bombo Rivera: Yes, weekly league. No IP or GS limit.

  23. PublicEnemy#1 says:
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    John Lackey? Not the most exciting of names, but he always keeps his whip under control and had a nice bounce back in 2013. Plus, he kind if has a voice like Kermit The Frog and that has to count for something!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @PublicEnemy#1: last year was his best WHIP since he was on the Angels, 1.27 the last season there, and the best WHIP of his career. I would chalk that up as a lucky year and forget about it, the previous three years are 1.36, 1.62, and 1.42. Not a good WHIP pitcher historically

  24. Mike says:
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    OPS league… Trying to decide on my last keeper: I’m looking at Wainwright or Gomez. I’m leaning towards Wainwright but I have hesitations.

    Wainwright would be my only keeper SP while Gomez would be my 4th OF. (Cargo, Jones, Bruce)

    Another option: I was offered Cano for Wainwright, Gomez and 14th overall pick (after 50 guys are kept).

    Should I do the deal? Or, if not, who do I keep of the two?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: Take Cano

  25. Josh says:
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    So I traded all my studs in a firesale to gain massive amounts of picks this year. Problem is my keepers are iffy(Cano, HanRam, Longo, Cliff Lee), especially my 5th and final spot… Matt Kemp.

    I can either keep him as my 5th keeper, and hope he doesnt get injured, or trade my 4th round pick (92nd overall) for Josh Hamilton.

    Is Matt Kemp good value for a 5th keeper? Good enough to keep a 4th round pick… Or should I just trade for J Hamilton?

    Thanks Grey!

    • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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      @Josh:

      Can you choose none of the above?

    • Bombo Rivera says:
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      @Josh: How deep is the league where you can trade “all of your studs” and still have Cano, HanRam, Longo and Cliff Lee? Assuming this isn’t a four-team league, Kemp is worth a flier as your 5th guy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Josh: Kemp and Hamilton aren’t different enough to trade for Hamilton

  26. Count de Monetball says:
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    Grey, Don Mattingly reportedly said that Puig could bat leadoff, How do you see him batting leadoff effecting his value/stats, assuming that your #19 ranking did not have him batting leadoff. I assume that you would knock his RBI’s down a good bit…(Grey’s projections 90/28/94/.285/20). Thanks!

    • rotorankers.tumblr.com says:
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      @Count de Monetball: Batting leadoff sure hurt Jason Heyward last year. Changed his approach. I wouldn’t be thrilled if I was a Puig owner.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @rotorankers.tumblr.com: Good point…except that it’s not true nor accurate…

        • Count de Monetball says:
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          @Wake Up: ha ha, I sure wish you were more direct Wake!

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Wake Up: it’s nicer than saying you’re wrong

          • Wake Up says:
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            @J-FOH: The hate is strong with me today!

        • rotorankers.tumblr.com says:
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          @Wake Up: How is that not accurate? Heyward spent the 1st half of the season trying to get on base rather than hitting for power. His OBP went up but he changed his approach and philosophy. This isn’t an observation…it’s a no brainer that leadoff guys have different objectives.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @rotorankers.tumblr.com: Here are a couple of things to research:
            How many games did Heyward bat leadoff?
            What were Heyward’s #s batting leadoff?

            • rotorankers.tumblr.com says:
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              @Wake Up: My mistake. My thoughts were based on Heyward moving “up” in the order to #2 the 1st half of 2013 season from #3-7 in 2012. He changed his approach. I realize he batted 1st later in yr and had success. My point is that a guy going to leadoff is going to change his approach and it could hurt his fantasy value in the short term.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Count de Monetball: I’ve located some coffee and calmed down…baseball writers are to be held to a higher standard and should not start off with a blatant falsehood…

        • Cram It says:
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          @Wake Up: Haha. Yes!

    • Macdaddyofmac says:
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      @Count de Monetball: rule of thumb: lead off equals more runs, less rbis

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Macdaddyofmac: rule of thumb is for beating your wife…you monster…

        • Robby D says:
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          @Wake Up: I’m now going to go watch Boondock Saints again when I go home tonight. Thank you for that.

          Which makes me wonder how many lesbians it takes to screw in a lightbulb??

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Robby D: Haha…Nice…great flick!

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Grey: @simply fred: Thanks for that link Fred. Thanks Grey, I don’t think I buy it either, but regardless, Puig doesn’t play the game the “right way” anyway, so lineup position wont change his approach at all…Another thought, I have been reading a lot about Puig’s speed in the offseason, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNEf0Df8btM#t=259 maybe 20 is a little low, sounds like it should be closer to 110.. Ha

        • Simply Fred

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          @Count de Monetball: no problem. btw: I appreciate your insight and grace (avoiding incite) on the site.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

  27. Wake Up says:
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    Grey make kriss kross said…don’t be so sad kriss kross…it gets better…

  28. Wake Up says:
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    What ever happened to JB? Did he join up with Nick to form the world’s smallest giant?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: HAHAHA… He’s doing basketball…

  29. Cram It says:
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    Man you’re getting taken to task for leaving guys out of the top 100! “Why is player X ranked 102nd and not 99th?!”

  30. Cram It says:
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    Man you’re getting taken to task for leaving guys out of the top 100! “Why is player X ranked 102nd and not 99th?!”

  31. Oppo taco says:
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    I was Offered segura for a 2nd round pick in our 12 team keeper. I have 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks but no picks in rounds 3 and 4. We keep 7 players so the first overall pick is essentially pick #85 overall. My keepers are mccutchen, j up, goldy, Joey bats, heyward, bumgarner and then one of Ryan zimmerman/boegarts/profar/Kimbrel/beachy/wheeler. Lost Harvey to tommy John so trying to figure out my last keeper. Thanks for the input.

      • Robby D says:
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        @Grey: Where do you see Segura?

        My gut says Zimmerman, but Kimbrel is one of the only relievers that gives me the vapors, so I can’t argue against him.

  32. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Pitching Is So Deep, Grey will still be writing top pitchers for 2014 posts into Spring Training.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Sky: it never gets old

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @J-FOH: Is this David Wooderson?

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Sky: no…it’s bat kid…bat kid never gets old…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            You know there’s gonna be an ABC special on him in 40 years. He’ll still be wearing the costume, but it’ll be ill-fitting and he will look like Kyle Gass

            • Wake Up says:
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              @Sky: more likely that in 40 years he’ll look like a mini-skeleton…bat kid never gets old…

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                He’s in remission! Dammit Wake Up let me dream that the Bat Kid will live on!

                • Big Al says:
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                  @Sky: Always remember if you have a choice to be Bat Kid or you. Always be Bat Kid or Grey’s mustache.

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Important life choices with easy answers.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Sky: sorry I was puffing a doobie with a senior

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            A redhead no doubt.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Sky: didn’t pay attention to hair color but I would assume so

  33. Jay

    Jay says:
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    I demand to know why Tim Stauffer isn’t here. PADRE RAAAAAAAGE. Eh, nevermind. Let’s go to the beach bra.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Jay: I’d personally like it if you both went to the beach without a bra.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Jay: what are the beach temps on the East Coast right now?

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @J-FOH: negative you’re gonna die degrees.

        • Prez says:
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          @Jay: sounds like turtle neck weather! Woohooo

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Jay: is he even a starter this year?

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Jay: Padrage…bra…Padrage!

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        Bradres?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jay: HAHA

  34. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Alex Torres

  35. C says:
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    Great stuff as always! What do you think of this trade in a 16-team dynasty (6×6): I give Greg Holland, Tyler Skaggs and Dustin Ackley and get Jason Heyward/pick 34 in our minors draft. I have 3 other closers, so not hurting for saves. Thanks!

    • Grey

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      @C: Take Heyward

  36. the tone ranger says:
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    can you RANK in order of who youd like to keep on the cheap as a last round pick in the upcoming draft? Can keep forever (increase 4 rounds a year if you keep year after year)

    bogaerts, jofer, gyorko, salazar, g.cole, springer

    thanks!

  37. Nate says:
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    Hey Grey, Great stuff as always. Just curious, is someone at Razzball going to do a top holds guys post as in years past?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nate: Thanks! Smokey should

  38. g-stav says:
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    Barry “You Call That A Changeup, Arroyo, Looks Like A Fastball To Me” Zito
    Instant classic

  39. AdamH says:
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    Grey,

    In a 6×6 with OPS added, would you bump Votto up a little bit in the overall rankings?

    Appreciate it.

  40. Wilson says:
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    Quick keeper question. I only have room for one of these guys but can have them for the next two years at these prices. Typical 5×5 Roto- $260 max. Which one would you keep?
    D Brown $5
    L Martin $1
    Taillon $1
    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Leonys

      • Wilson says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. Thought maybe Taillon long term.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  41. Mike says:
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    In in a 10 team/ h2h/5×5/ keeper league. We keep 15 every year. My hitting is stacked. Keeping 10 bats ( Trout, Harper, Stanton, J Up, Myers, Pedroia, Chris Davis, Tulo, Edwin and Rizzo) and 5 SPs (Strasburg, Jose Fernandez, Alex Cobb, Shelby Miller and Taijuan Walker). Would you feel comfortable going into the draft with those 5 SPs? I could also keep Ryu and Cashner as options but i would have to drop a hitter. Teams usually wind up having a rotation in this league that’s around 11/12 SPs deep. Should I add another SP keeper or just go into draft with those 5SPs?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      See my top 20 on whether I’d feel comfortable…

      • Mike says:
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        @Grey: Touche! I’ll go in with 5.. Haha

  42. mauledbypandas says:
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    bring on the top 100!

    I’ve got baseball fever and it’s barely Febtober!

    Assuming we are still doing RCL this year? I think Vin is taking a hiatus, will miss his contribution.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cool

      • mauledbypandas says:
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        @Grey: good answer

  43. TheNewGuy says:
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    Don’t you sometimes think eff it I can’t be bothered to get out of bed when you wake up, to answer all the endless questions waiting for you in the morning? Not known you ignore our questions once yet, impressive dedication!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, no problem

  44. scottsteelers says:
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    Already ran this by you a month ago but just wanted to see if there was any change. Where we keep 5 my 3 for sures are
    j Fernandez 11th
    Puig 10th
    mccutch 7th
    have to decide between
    machado 9th
    segura 9th
    carpenter 9th
    wacha 9th
    bailey 9th
    latos 14th.
    if 2 from 9th then one moves into 8th. 60 players off the board to start with all teams keepers. I counted 12 players that should be available out of the top 50 so its slim pickens.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura, Machado

      • scottsteelers says:
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        @Grey: forgot cespedes 9th. Any change?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I like Machado’s long term upside better

      • Spammer Jay says:
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        @Grey: Segura-Machado / Akuna-matata

  45. gareth says:
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    In fantasy leagues, what category would you say frustrates players the most during the season? For me the counting stats are usually fine, but average, ERA and WHIP have me pulling my hair out at times. I’d say whip is the category I dislike the most. How about you guys?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @gareth: before i even came to razzball i learned that runs correlates to all other stats more than any other stat (as far as “standard” fantasy stats go) so my teams never have problems with runs, but sometimes the other counting stats are the most angering (and i didn’t even get to have stanton in any draft last year). it does suck when a pitcher has a wonderful whip game (like 3 or 4 guys on base in 6 or more innings) but is losing the game when his only walk or single in 3 innings was homered in? (watching scherzer’s box scores last year in every start i seemed to notice this occasionally, obv watching a guy let almost nobody on base for a few innings starts to give an owner a feeling of entitlement to “deserve” ERA and wins).

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @gareth: Wins!

  46. Milby says:
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    In a contest of “who can have their playing time shrink the most,” I’ve got to choose between a reserve keeper spot for Luebke or Nick Franklin. Is there any circumstance under which you’d keep Franklin (eg relocated to Colorado, which is jettisoned to the moon?), or is Luebke the guy you’d be keeping (not to be mistaken with bee keeping)?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keep Luebke

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        yep .
        i put the kizz of krap on luebke
        when i announced him as my sleeper .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, you jinxed him real fast…

    • Mike B says:
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      @Milby: Luebke slated to get TJ yet again

  47. Q says:
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    Ok, guess it’s time for this question.

    10 Team h2h points league, 30 man rosters with $300 budget.

    Must keep 8, can keep 10.

    My 6 definites:

    Prince, Beltre, Bruce, Braun all @ $5 (long story why so cheap, tedious to tell and harsh to hear)
    Segura $3
    G Cole $1

    MUST keep 2 but CAN keep 4 of the following 8 players. After next year, price of each of these guys will jump $5:

    Wieters: $5
    A Gordon $16
    Papi: $11 (we start 3 util slots, so position inflexibility not so crucial)
    Grienke: $5
    Adverb $5
    J Zimm $5
    H Bailey $9.

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cliff Lee, Zimmermann, Greinke, Ortiz

  48. bobz says:
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    Lackey not it top 110? Don’t love him but think he should be there somewhere.

  49. Dave says:
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    Okay to give up Reddick for Bonifacio?

    5 OF dynasty league, already have torii, cutch, rios, a jax, a gordon, pagan for those 5 plus util

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  50. goodfold2 says:
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    good joke on the plagiarizing. it’s self replicating!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

      • Wake Up says:
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        @goodfold2: @Grey: “Plagiarism is self replicating!” (sic) This was lifted from plagiarism dot com…cite your sources!

        btw, coincidence file addition- I just wrote something on plagiarizing an “Ethics” thesis last night…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @Wake Up: are you independently wealthy from selling papers to college students like will farrell in Undeclared? (if you’ve seen that episode, good stuff)

          • Wake Up says:
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            @goodfold2: Nice…

            You wish…

            No idea what I mean by that…

            Do most wealthy people have 20 year old vehicles?

  51. gareth says:
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    Braves rumored to be about to offer Freddie Freeman 125 million over 8 years. Hopefully this ends those “hey grey, Rizzo or Freeman? ” questions.

    • Prez says:
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      @gareth: how does that stop the question? Rizzo doesnt have a deal yet so that makes him the weaker link? Sounds legit…

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Prez: Actually, Rizzo is currently in a 7-year contract worth $41 MM (signed in May of 2013) with the team having two options. With the options and incentives, it could be worth $73 million over 9 years $8.1 M AAV. Freddie is getting $15.6 M AAV.

        • Prez says:
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          @Count de Monetball: wow i didnt know rizzo got signed… I must of been playing with the pigskin..

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Prez: please tell me this conversation is sarcasm

            • Wake Up says:
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              @J-FOH: More money= better person…It’s called Capitalism…look it up…

              Now that’s sarcasm…right, the British?

              • gareth says:
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                @Wake Up: Americans know refined sarcasm like Alanis morrisette knows ironic.

  52. gareth says:
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    Looking forward to your top 100 / top 400 rankings. They are a great reference to use on draft day.

    I’m going to razzball it all the way this year (specifically – get over my fixation with catchers and draft one late, draft power early and Wait on pitching).

    Thanks grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Count de Monetball: I’m not saying @Grey: Agree with Gareth, I went all in with RB last year and still haven’t taken off my Burger King Crown. I promise I wont draft Halladay like i did last year (against your advice).

    • Spammer Jay says:
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      @gareth: you sound like me a couple seasons ago. This is why I love Gray and Razzball and also why i don’t tell any of my league mates. Haha! Although, odds are some of them go here for info too.

      My results in 2 very competitive 12 and 14 team keeper leagues:
      2005-2009: placed in money once I think.
      2010: 8th, 12th*
      2011: 11th, 9th*
      2012: 5th, $4th
      2013: $2nd (missed 1st by 1 win), $3rd
      *Pre: Razzball

      • Spammer Jay says:
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        @Spammer Jay: actually to add to that, you need to check here on a daily basis to know who to pick up and watch; just as important as the draft. That’s the difference between my 2012 ans 2013 results.

      • frankgrimes says:
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        @Spammer Jay: very competitive haha

  53. 2 Giant rings says:
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    I play in a 5×6 league. Standard cats plus OPS. In the past my strategy for the added cat is to simply put a bit more emphasis on drafting power and OBP than I would a normal 5×5. It seems logical but am I under thinking this? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope, makes sense

  54. William says:
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    Keeper rec in a 10 team, 4×4 league and we can only keep 8. Here are my choices:

    Posey
    Goldschmidt
    Hanley
    Puig
    Marte
    Kemp
    Stanton
    Bumgarner
    Teheran
    Wacha
    Frieri

    So out of that list of 11, Kemp and Stanton scare me due to injury risk (e.g. Kemp already saying he won’t make the opener and not even running yet). But do I toss the catcher and keep the closer? (K’s don’t count in our 4×4 league only W, ERA, WHIP, Saves).

    Thanks

    • William says:
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      Oh, and I also have Ian Desmond of 20/20 note, so make that 12 possible keepers from which to choose only 8…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        And lose Wacha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Lose Frieri too

  55. Pete Jones says:
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    12 team 6×6- OPS, QS- keep 7

    Adams
    Lawrie
    Longoria
    H Ramirez
    C Gonzalez
    Choo
    Segura
    Gordon

    Gio
    Zimmermann
    Greinke

    Thanks for the input. I started reading last year and one the league for the first time! Your the beast Gray!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem! Not Lawrie, Adams, Greinke, Gordon

  56. The Flayed Man says:
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    Greetings,

    Yesterday I asked a question on keepers and I was mistaken with my request. I apparently don’t have J. Fernandez so I need one last keeper.

    12 team 5×5 roto:

    Current keepers:
    Miquel Cabrera – round 1
    P. Goldschmidt – round 10
    S. Marte – round 14
    J. Segura – round 15
    A. Chapman – round 22

    need one from these:
    J. Zimmerman – round 9 cost
    Profar – round 18 cost
    Stanton – round 2 cost
    Rizzo – round 12 cost
    Arenando – round 12
    Bogaerts – round 12

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo

      • The Flayed Man says:
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        Thanks, again

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @The Flayed Man: you thought you had Jo-fer when you did not? you must play in a bunch of leagues so as to forget which one this is.

      • The Flayed Man says:
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        What happened was I drafted him last year with my last pick and at some point must of cut him. Probably when I thought he would have an innings limit. Our keeper cost is whatever they were drafted the year before so I was looking at last years draft and was like “wow awesome I have J Fernandez” then looked at my roster and said “damn, I must of cut him”. I am also in a bunch of leagues.

  57. Dale Doback says:
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    Did I miss Ivan Nova? Curious to hear your thoughts on him for 2014. Thanks and keep up the great work!

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Dale Doback: he’s referred to often as streamer in above comments.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      7-ish K-rate, hair under 3 BB/9… It makes him a streamer in most leagues, and in leagues where you can’t stream I wouldn’t trust him out of the gate on my team…

  58. Corbleone says:
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    Another keeper advice post! 5 x 5 league and we use OBP and Slug. We can keep 10.
    Committed:
    Encarnacion: $12 through 2016
    Sherzer: $15 – 2015
    Stanton: $27 – 2014
    J Zimmerman: $9 – 2014

    Will Keep:
    Hanley: $12
    Belt: $4
    D Salazar: $7
    Ryu: $5
    Cashner: $1

    That leaves one of the following:
    Alvarez: $9 (but we use OBP and I already have 2 of my 3 C.I.)
    Seager: $8 (kind of boring plus C.I.)
    Dozier: $5 (kind of boring, could 2B, but probably goes for under $10)
    L Martin: $2 (awful in winter ball and in the 2nd half last years sans sagnof, but need SB & OF)
    Z Wheeler: $5 (wasn’t great and I have 5 SP’s)

    Thanks for any advice. I hope you find enough time for your manstache and cougar!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Leonys

  59. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    in 16-20 teamer (not sure yet) H2H dynasty that is about to start with holds, where we have to have exactly 5 starters on team at all times and starting daily roster of 2 SP/ 7 RP/ 1 any how many
    1. SP should i draft that i don’t intend to stream (with only 100 or less starters gone there will be good streamers all the time), and how many of those should be early, “ace” pitchers? i’m thinking 1 should get either 2 or 3 good starters and stream the other 2 or 3.
    2. since we have few bench spots, but start 7 RP each day, is it strategically important to draft closers or elite set up guys earlier than normal or just fill almost all of those 7-8 RP slots at the end of the draft.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Makes sense 2. You need decent RPs

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: 2. since anywhere from 112 (16 teams and nobody even has one backup) to 160 (2o teams and everybody has 1 backup) I’m guessing that means all good RP get a bump up in rankings, but around how many spots, like 15-20 (only for the elite guys, both closer and set up)?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You just need to draft some good RPs, doesn’t matter if it’s 15 or 35 spots…

          • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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            @Grey: got it, sounds like catcher’ll get punted till LATE , and any time a run either occurs or I think it’s going to on RP’s i’ll jump right in.

            • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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              @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: i’m guessing it changes nothing that the daily pitcher slots are 5 SP and 7 RP ( misread it). we have 4 total bench spots, which, i’m likely will be using for at least 3 hitters since we can’t even have extra starters anyway.

  60. bossmanjunior says:
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    Pitching is so deep some people don’t get the “pitching is so deep” references.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  61. Spammer Jay says:
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    Hi Grey, any comment about Burch Smith who is being hyped by Dano?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s not in the rotation…

  62. SwaggerJackers says:
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    Tyson Ross: “Pitching is so deep Grey didn’t rank me in the top 100.”

  63. The Flayed Man says:
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    Offered his Bruce and a round 10 and round 20 pick for my round 4 and round 5 pick.

    Bruce could that be a keeper at a round 7 cost. Good value for him. Would probably then drop Rizzo from keeper list.

    Too much?

    Thanks.

    12 team 5×5 roto:

    Current keepers:
    Miquel Cabrera – round 1
    P. Goldschmidt – round 10
    A. Rizzo – round 12
    S. Marte – round 14
    J. Segura – round 15
    A. Chapman – round 22

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Bruce…

  64. Oppo Taco says:
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    Would you rather give up A 5th round pick in a trade for Mike Minor or Trade a second round pick for segura? or hold. 12 team keeper we keep 7 with no limits for years/prices. So far my Keepers are Goldy, Mccutch, Joey bats, Jason Heyward, Bumgarner, J Upside (chose him over adam Jones last seas, sigh……month long boner during his April hot streak) I have 2 first round picks, 2 seconds, no 3rd or 4th and 3 picks in the 5th right now. But our keepers aren’t set so i dont know what the player pool will look like on draft day. thanks. Without Segura or Minor I’d be keeping one of R Zimmerman, Kimbrel (not set on keeping a closer), Wheeler, Beachy, BJ Upton, profar, boegarts or arenado. Thanks for the thoughts.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Sky: No! Can’t be!!! I had him down for 200 IP…in black ink!

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        Did you really have to tell me the color of the ink? White ink, brown ink, black ink, yellow ink…we’re all squirts from the same quill when it’s all said and done, Wake Up!

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Sky: I know you mock…but still I laugh…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            My Tyson Ross sleeper post better come out before long. It’s been in the oven since early January.

            • SwaggerJackers says:
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              @Sky: Leubke going down is the perfect opportunity for Tyson Ross to make his top 100 debut!

              Your sleeper post is busted Sky!

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @SwaggerJackers: when did he hurt it this time (these articles often don’t say), i hope it wasn’t just from scratching an itch.

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                He was already most likely in the rotation but yeah, he’s been cemented. Still will go undrafted in most leagues I’d bet.

            • Jay

              Jay says:
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              @Sky: Yeah, if I would have known, Ross would have come yesterday…

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                Curse your inability to see the future, Jay!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      And there’s that…

  65. SwaggerJackers says:
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    @Sky: You lead me to guys like Chris Ivory in football.

    I suspect (hope) you’re better at fantasy baseball than fantasy football.

    Therefore I will draft Tyson. Don’t let me down in both fantasy sports bro!

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @SwaggerJackers: hope you didn’t take his SJax recommendation either lol
      I kept telling him Julius Thomas is the man but what can you say. Here’s a pre sleeper for next year : Marcus Lattimore

      • SwaggerJackers says:
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        @frankgrimes: He did trick me into drafting S Jax Grimes! I passed on Reggie Bush against my better judgement.

        He was also pushing for Franklin over Lacey.

        Defend yourself Sky!

        • Sky

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          Last time I checked, Atlanta was a mess from top to bottom with all of their starters. Hard to predict every single player getting hurt almost at the same time.

          I still hold verdict out in Lacy long term. Still think he’ll be a health issue like he was this year. You still would’ve lost your championship if him and Bush were your main two studs down the stretch…don’t get mad I’m refuting, you told me to defend myself!

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            @Sky: @SwaggerJackers: it wasn’t a trick it was decent logic touches vs what turner had done in the past. but SJax is old slow and will get hurt and has no wiggle after the catch. I don’t remember the Lacy part and luckily I didn’t since I rode CHarles and Lacy to first place.
            Sky does know his shit tho I just like giving him the business cuz he will get defensive. haha
            and Lacy played hurt and quite well in the Fanatsy playoff weeks sir

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Just so hard to say when a player is done. Frank Gore looks like he can do it for another 2 years right now. Maybe I’m not rememberin Lacy as well as I thought. I just remember a disappointing game vs the Bears defense. Musta been week 17. I like him, just wouldn’t rank him as high as others probably would.

              I will gloat that I was one of the few who put Lynch in my top 5 and Charles in top 3. Didn’t feel bold at the time but so many people had them buried behind Foster/Spiller/Rice.

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @Sky: i lost by 2 pts in a 14 team standard due to not putting in ivory. i think i went with that HOU 3rd string dude who 1.got hurt in the 1st half, and 2.DEN knew Schlub couldn’t beat them so they actually had a run defense that game. It was my fault for not knowing that Schlub was even playing over Keenum that week. I would NOT have trusted that RB over Ivory had i known that. I think Ivory had 12 or 14 pts that week. 3rd string HOU RB had 1 or 2.

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Damn…

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        I hope he took your David Wilson suggestion. Or was it your Lamar Miller one? GRIMEY!

        • SwaggerJackers says:
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          @Sky: It’s cool Sky, I still like you. I had bad luck all around in football. In my 14 team league, my running backs were Doug Martin, Ridley, and Ivory. I also drafted Cruz, Colston, and Blackmon in that league. What a disaster.

          • Sky

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            I hate years like that. I had Roddy/Colston in one. Think I had T-Rich there too. Pooballs…

            No offense taken! I know you and GRIMEY are good guys. My phone autocorrects his name to all caps now…

    • Sky

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      There was a metric of wins and losses for the Jets. They were something insane like 6-1 when Ivory had over 80 yards in the game. I hate Rex Ryan so much. He gives up on the family van with Green, is given a muscle car and goes driving around in his wife’s Subaru with Powell…

      • Prez says:
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        @Sky: lovely analogy there sky…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          I’m nothing if not analogous.

  66. Matt says:
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    No Ian Kennedy in top 100+?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Matt: There’ll be a post about him tomorrow. Be sure to tune in…

  67. troy says:
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    maybe i missed him but very surprised tyson ross isnt somewhere on this list. i think the guy has break out potential.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      You didn’t miss him. I’m with you. I have a Ross sleeper post waiting in the wings since January. It should hit Razzball shelves shortly.

      • troy says:
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        @Sky: look forward to reading it sky thank u!

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          No prob. I play in a deep league. Guys like Ross and Smyly are usually higher on my radar than a typical rankings setting. They won’t win the cy young but they are definitely ownable guys who either become regular league worthy or at least ownable in deep leagues.

  68. Ambreen says:
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    Hey man,

    Is A Jax, plus Gary Sanchez and Miguel Almonte too much for Matt Kemp?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope, not enough…

  69. MB says:
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    Sending Howie K for Gardner okay?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure

  70. John says:
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    This guy wants Arenado and Dyson for Reddick, tell him to buzz off?

  71. Buckner says:
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    Travis Wood? The guy gets no love.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      77.4% LOB rate, 2.18 K:BB ratio, a 6.9% HR/FB rate coupled with a very low 33.2% GB rate and a sub 7 K/9 rate…I think we saw the utmost luckiest and best of Travis Wood in 2013. He’s gonna need to improve in a lot of areas to be viable again in 2014 without a lot of luck again.

  72. Buckner says:
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    I understand what you’re saying Sky, but to have guys like Edinson Volquez on this list – and not Wood?

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Pittsburgh has turned around a lot of ‘lost’ arms. No one would touch Liriano last year. I’m not drafting either but I’ll take a chance on a guy who can strike out 9 to 10 per over a guy who sits in the 5 to 6 per range. If Travis’ stats regress to the mean in those areas this year, you’re looking at something worse than Edinson because there aren’t even the K’s to go with it.

  73. Bbboston says:
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    Perhaps I just missed it, but is ivan nova not on this list? I know people have varying thoughts on him, but I would have expected him to be somewhere on this list, for sure.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He didn’t make the list, but maybe when I update it he’ll sneak in…

  74. Steve says:
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    Grey.. Felix Doubront’s projections seem to be missing. Not that I am looking at drafting him by any means… :)

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