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You, “Hey, look at that, I’m in a crazy/stupid/gooftarded deep league and everyone in this league that I’m talking to myself about is well-versed in this fantasy baseball shizz because they are also in this crazy/stupid/gooftarded deep league yet they forgot to draft Matt Holliday.  Cool!”  Yeah, that’s not going to happen.  If you’re drafting from guys in the top 100 outfielders for 2013 fantasy baseball, your league is deep and you know you’re not going to get much from these guys.  Potatoes to chips, most of these guys will be worth owning at some point in the season.  In keepers and single league, uh, leagues, most should be owned from the jump, if ‘from the jump’ means what I think it does when kids say it.  Now get off my lawn!  Here’s all of the 2013 fantasy baseball rankings.  If you’re joining us late, here’s the top 20 outfielders, top 40 outfielders, top 60 outfielders and top 80 outfielders.  Anyway, here’s the top 100 outfielders for 2013 fantasy baseball:

81. Oscar Taveras – This tier started in top 80 outfielders for 2013 fantasy baseball.  This tier ends at Cowgill.  I called this tier, “Not If But When’ isn’t just something I read in a fortune cookie, it’s also a tier name.” I already went over my Oscar Taveras 2013 fantasy.  I wrote it in honor of the original Oscar.  RIP Schindler.  2013 Projections: 35/7/25/.275/9 in 220 at-bats

82. Matt Carpenter – Unlike the first three names in this tier, it’s not about waiting for him to get called up, but waiting for him to get a starting job.  Somewhere, Allen Craig gasped and pulled his oblique.  2013 Projections:  54/8/59/.282/2

83. Collin Cowgill – Here’s what I said about Cowgill when he was sent to the Mets, “Cowgill may sound like a Texas radio personality, but he’s a guy that’s languished in the minors for longer than he’s needed to.  He’s ready for the majors, and there’s a chance the Mets play him.  In the minors, he showed some pop and nice speed.  Think 7 homers and 25 steals with an everyday job.  He’s also shown the ability to take a walk in the minors, but so far in the majors (196 ABs) he’s looked overmatched with ballooning Ks.  Definitely a solid flyer for NL-Only leagues and I wouldn’t be surprised if he earns a spot in an early season Buy column.  You’ll hear about him much more if secures a job in Queens.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2013 Projections:  41/4/43/.240/17

84. David Murphy – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Francoeur.  I call this tier, “They have an everyday job.  Yay.”  This tier could also have been called, you’re gonna drop them by the first week of the season or want to.  There’s talk that Murphy will take over the three spot in the Rangers lineup.  That talk is bizzonkers with a side of crazy.  I like Murphy as a fifth outfielder, in theory.  But if he had more power or speed he would’ve ended up in that tier with Maybin.  In reality, Murphy’s the first guy you drop when someone is hitting on waivers.  His projections of 16 homers, 10 steals aren’t bad until you get 2-3 homers a month and 1-2 steals.  2013 Projections:  63/16/72/.278/10

85. Garret Jones – Already went over Jones’s projections in the top 20 1st basemen for 2013 fantasy baseball.

86. Justin Ruggiano – In this tier, Parmelee, Ruggiano and Mastroianni.  Sounds like a bunch second rate crime families.  “We make people talk…By asking them politely.”  This tier could’ve also been called outfielders on awful teams in pretty terrible hitters’ parks, except Murphy.  Ruggiano had a year to remember last year, if you’re directly related to Ruggiano.  Otherwise, no one’s going to remember it.  He’ll be 31 years old this year and he is a journeyman who shouldn’t have a starting job on a major league team.  And he doesn’t.  He’s starting for the Marlins.  2013 Projections: 72/12/32/.258/15

87. Logan Morrison – Already went over Morrison’s projections in the top 20 1st basemen for 2013 fantasy baseball.

88. Darin Mastroianni – When Revere went to the Phils, here’s what I said, “Will become the new Twins center fielder.  How does one get the name Darin with that last name?  Is Darin short for Daringiuseppe?  He stole 45 bases one year in the minor leagues, but keep in mind that prior to now he was having a hard time getting everyday at-bats on the Twins.  If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know, you need to know too much.  Nosy!  Mastroianni will steal 40 bases, and even hit three times as many homers as Revere (i.e., three homers), but he might not hit .250.  He strikes out a lot for a lead off man.  Daringiuseppe, ‘Your momma strikes out a lot!  Hey-oh!’”  And that’s me quoting me!  2013 Projections:  81/3/37/.242/32

89. Chris Parmelee – He sounds like a basketball player to me.  Parmelee down low… No look to Mastroianni and now I’m announcing an Italian national basketball team.  What they lack in basketball skills, they more than make up in hand gestures and armpit hair.  The Twins are so terrible that they might actually play Parmelee for the whole year.  Then again, the Twins are awful, so that sword cuts both ways, Samurai Jack.  Here’s what I said last year about Parmelee, “Chris Parmelee just likes September.  In 2011, he hit 4 homers and a .355 average in September.  Maybe it’s because of that goth chick he used to date that showed him the virtues of September, and its dying flowers.  Maybe it’s because his abusive father left his family in September seventeen years ago.  Maybe it’s because he plays in Minnesota and in September the girls finally start covering up.  The preceding was an excerpt from Chris Parmelee’s autobiography, “Running With Scissors and a Chicken Parm Sandwich,” which was ghost written by the guy who wrote the early 80?s film, My Bodyguard.  The book jacket has his minor league stats:  17 homers, .338/.457/.645 in 64 games in Triple-A in 2012; he’s ready for the major leagues.  In 48 games with the Twins, he has 5 homers and he’s striking out a little too much.  He might not get you a .270 average, and the chapters in his book about when he went to live with his psychiatrist, who operated out of the back of a pizzeria, are dry, but he should be owned for his power.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2013 Projections: 54/15/64/.268/1

90. Lucas Duda – Broke his wrist in November trying to grow a mustache for Movember, which will probably hurt his power.  I suppose Duda could still hit 20 homers in a full season of at-bats.  I suppose I could also poop in my hands and call it fudge.  Neither are probably happening.  2013 Projections:  51/17/62/.252/1

91. Juan Pierre – Might only start vs. righties.  He has 17 career homers and 16 of them vs. righties, so it’s a smart move by the Marlins.  If he gets six thousand plate appearances this year, he could hit 20 homers.  2013 Projections:  61/1/22/.295/30

92. Nate McLouth – The Orioles are saying McLousy will platoon with Nolan Reimold.  They are calling it the McReimold, which was also the name of a McDonald’s sandwich test-marketed in Korea that was fermented cabbage burgers.  McLouth will probably earn an everyday job, then get hurt and miss two months.  2013 Projections:  71/12/52/.252/12

93. Franklin Gutierrez – Like a baby’s diaper, the Mariners outfield is crowded with crap.  In the corner outfield slots, there’s Ibanez, The Big FraGu and Jason Bay.  That’s three guys for two spots.  Unless they can convince the league that shortstop Brendan Ryan should only play the field and not bat.  2013 Projections:  54/11/57/.250/10

94. Jonny Gomes – There will probably be someone like, “Yo, Greysef Hawkins, you said most of these outfielders were on terrible teams, but Gomes is on the Red Sox.”  Mmm-hmm.  I keed.  The Red Sox won’t be terrible offensively and Fenway isn’t bad, but Gomes could be.  Or he’ll just end up platooned with Nava.  Only one year in his career, Gomes has had a full season of at-bats, and that year he hit 18 homers with 5 steals.  <sarcastic>Sweet!</sarcastic> 2013 Projections:  53/16/57/.245/3

95. Ryan Doumit – Obviously his real value comes from his catcher eligibility.  Speaking of which, I already went over Doumit’s projections in the top 20 catchers for 2013 fantasy baseball.

96. Kirk Nieuwenhuis – His numbers look a lot like Daniel Murphy without the runs and average.  *snooze*  What happened?  I was writing about Nieuwenhuis and the next thing I know… *snooze*  I just had a dream that I was writing about Mike Trout and he was in the room with me, only he looked like Kate Upton.  I’m going to write more about Nieuwenhuis so I can go back to… *snooze* 2013 Projections: 54/12/68/.248/6

97. David DeJesus – Due to his runs at the top of the Cubs lineup, DeJesus might be getting the short end of the stick with this ranking.  What a sacrilege!  2013 Projections:  81/10/45/.257/6

98. Carlos Quentin – Padres fans will be outraged at this ranking.  Hehe.  I crack myself up.  The last time Padres fans were outraged was when the club named a cul-de-sac after Trevor Hoffman instead of a street.  “Steal this Trevor sign!  Give us Alley Hoffman!”  2013 Projections:  64/21/75/.248/1

99. Justin Maxwell – Now we’re getting into some serious value.  And by that I mean, no one in their right mind is paying a lot for Astros.  Right now, Maxwell is set to bat between Carlos Pena and the blahtoon of Fernando Martinez and Brandon Barnes.  As a person who is PC would call constipation, Maxwell may get negative runs.  2013 Projections: 48/20/58/.235/12

100. J.D. Martinez – Last year, Martinez had 439 plate appearances and 34 runs.  That was with his majority of at-bats coming in the three hole.  J.D. Salinger got more action in 70 years of reclusion.  2013 Projections: 42/15/67/.260

101. Jon Jay – There’s nothing necessarily wrong with Jon Jay.  There’s nothing necessarily right with him either.  The Federalist keeps things democratic and spreads his value across all categories.  Well, democracy in theory.  2013 Projections: 62/6/52/.301/12

102. Jeff Francoeur – Going from The Federalist to Frenchy reminds me of the Louisiana Purchase and how I don’t remember anything that I learned in grade school, but I also don’t remember what I had for lunch yesterday either.  Which somehow makes every lunch period in grade school seem really pointless.  2013 Projections: 55/18/67/.255/7

After the top 102 outfielders for 2013 fantasy baseball, there’s still a few names:

Andy Dirks – This is the final tier of outfielders.  This tier is called, “Y’all a bunch of part-timers, pardners!”  Quintin Berry, Brennan Boesch, Avisail Garcia and Nick Castellanos have something to say about Dirks playing every day.  My guess is Dirks will win out, but one of them will end up with the majority of the playing time when Leyland’s used all of his lineup cards for cigarette rolling paper and is forced to reuse the same lineup card multiple times.  2013 Projections:  50/12/59/.298/9

Travis Snider – Will probably be in some sort of Gaby-Jones Tabata-Snider platoon, which is also the name of a Jewish-Puerto Rican girl I dated in high school after she shortened Gabriella Jones Consuela Sal Rothstein Tabata Sniderberg.  2013 Projections:  48/15/57/.248/3

Will Venable – I’m not sure why the Padres platoon Venable.  Sure, he sucks vs. lefties, but the Padres suck, too.  Watch who you’re calling a kettle here, Padres!  2013 Projections:  52/9/41/.260/20

Gregor Blanco – “He’s… a… part-time… player…”  That’s Stevie Wonder at Mark Cuban’s fantasy draft after he paid him a million dollars to accompany him.  2013 Projections:  48/4/41/.240/19

Mike Carp – The Mariners have around seven 1st basemen/DH/unable-to-hit-in-Safeco players.  My guess is Smoak will be released, Kendrys will DH and split time at first with Carp, Montero and Morse.  It’s just a guess, hence the reason why I started that last sentence with “my guess.”  If you’re in a league where you need a guy with a fish last name, Carp would bump up to 2nd overall.  2013 Projections:  32/16/48/.240/1

Brandon Guyer – I love Guyer like a ladyer loves a manyer if it wasn’t for Kelly Johnson’s signing.  Guyer will probably be up by June.  2013 Projections:  40/5/46/.288/17

Matt Joyce – He’s currently slotted in for a full-time job.  And I’m running for mayor of WhoCaresville.  There’s no way Joyce sees a full season of at-bats.  It’ll either be Myers (prolly), Guyer, Fuld or Brignac cutting into Joyce’s playing time.  2013 Projections:  59/16/69/.250/5

Seth Smith – Can’t wait until Moneyball II is released and it’s all about platooning with the star of the show Seth Smith aka The Lisper’s Nightmare as played by Sean Astin, with a soundtrack featuring Kool G. Rap.  I’m sorry, Seth, you can’t face lefties.  “Thith ith ridiculouth!”  2013 Projections:  53/15/55/.268/3

Tony Campana – SAGNOF, snitches! 2013 Projections: something/nothing/barely something/meh/SAGNOF!

From Around The Web

  1. Hats for Bats says:
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    Tony Compana – sheer elegance in its simplicity.
    Grey : you are second only to Stanton on my fantasy baseball man crush list

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hats for Bats: I’m doing one of those hand hearts above my head…

  2. Steve says:
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    A few things.

    Re: #81, A nod too, surely to Oscar Madison? A bit late (much like the deceased!) but RIP Jack Klugman.

    On the subject of comedies, I missed you and JFOH talking about Scrubs towards e end of the lsat post. Loved that show (Elliot in particular – woof!) It’s a great comedy that canvasses al the emotions. I don’t know what y’all think of MASH, but the episode when Henry Blake is killed going home is still one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen on TV.

    On the subject of this post, it’s amazing how many of these deep guys become must-owns even in shallower formats, for (however) brief periods during the season.

    And I’m back from my island. Eff that.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Steve: Damn, already back? That sucks… Was it fun? MASH managed to pull off comedy and drama like maybe no other show, but I remember a lot of those 70’s shows not only tackled comedy but also drama… Yeah, pouring some Lysol out for the Madison who’s not here…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        MASH is a perfect example of what I call the half-life of a television show. Physics term in case you slept through that part of high school: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life. TV seems to decay on a predictable trajectory.

        MASH comes out of the gate strong with three great seasons. Tight writing, tight cast. Great mix of humor and jokes. Then there’s dissention in the ranks and McClain Stephenson wants more money so they kill him off and bring in Harry Morgan. Slowly the cast battles for creative control. Alda forces out Larry Gelbart (who was the real genius) after season 4. The show turns gradually to the sanctimonious Alda tone. BJ replaces Trapper (huge loss), Winchester replaces Burns (huge loss). Minor characters who have stuck around start to insist on more airtime, so you get Klinger focused episodes, Mulchahey focused episodes. As time goes on, old antagonisms are lost so that instead of Hawkeye and Margaret fighting, they’re all part of the MASH team and of course they hook up (though to their credit MASH did avoid the will they won’t they on off again). Ultimately after about 10 years you get a totally watered down product where all the storylines are exhausted and the thing is running of fumes which then builds to momentum one last time for the big finale.

        Cheer, Happy Days, 90210, and so many others follow a similar path.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, it’s the nature of the beast for countless reasons for different shows (and sports teams)… At first, people are struggling and everyone has a common goal… Make the best product possible but then success doesn’t breed success… You know one show that I think doesn’t follow this? Curb Your Enthusiasm… Larry David is obviously a genius but also doesn’t need the money or creativity of a group, so he just does his thing, which is hilarious…

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            Good call on Curb, bud. Got me thinking. You know who else has had a pretty amazing run in the South Park guys. Show has really probably gotten steadily better and better. Both are similar in that they don’t get too bogged down in the interpersonal stuff between characters and the narrative arcs that go along with that.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              And they also, like Curb, have a lot less people to answer to… One person who gave them problems was Isaac Hayes and they just killed him off (not in real live, that was an unfortunate coincidence)…

              • OaktownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                Yep…you’re exactly right. It’s all cable. Three network system was basically a million people with fingers in the pie. TV has gotten so much better.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, but it also allows some people who shouldn’t have so much creative control to get it and they run off the rails with no one stopping them…

                  • OaktownSteve says:
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                    @Grey:

                    Which can be fun in it’s own way, of course. At least for you, the viewing audience.

        • Steve says:
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          @OaktownSteve: Excellent points there. Particularly regarding the departure of key characters. When I was a kid I just watched MASH and loved it, because – well – I loved it. Then when I got older and watched repeats, it became much more clear to me what a turning point it was when Trapper left – it just wasn’t the same show after that.

          Seems to be true of a lot of shows (Happy Days is another example) that once a small, original cast is broken up or expanded, the show loses something.

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, was just for a long weekend and I tacked an extra day on the end. It was great, just hanging out, swimming, playing in the surf with the kids. Good food, great beer etc etc.

        You’re right about those 70s shows. I can remember programmes like Good Times and even Welcome Back Kotter that were a laugh a minute most of the time, but with the occasional injection of pretty heavy drama.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Those shows seemed to live in the real world… Not sure when shows stopped, but Friends was a good example of ‘there’s no way this show is in the real world.’

    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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      @Steve: elliot? huh, her super annoying charachter was perfect. not into blondes, so like our car loves we are miles apart. I will take a latina every day. The show was amazing, and the coolest part is some of the early stories are pulled from real life and they used real doctors as advisors. I think grey needs to work “the Todd” in as a glossary term or reference for the biggest douche bags in baseball. hey that Bryce harper really is a todd, did you see those pics of cole hamels…he’s such a todd. hey stanton changed his name from mike to giancarlo, what a todd.

      bTW you and oaksteve had me crying in laughing yesterday with your marraige one liners, It was like henny Youngman vs. Henny Youngman. My baby’s mama was even enjoying it and she hates that I play fantasy sports.

      • Steve says:
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        @Jack Full of Hate: Oh, we’re not as far away on women as you might think. Elliot was (and if a Google image search is any indication, still is) just so super cute/hot…

        Yeah, love those marriage jokes. Have to admit to looking a couple of those up. I bet Oaktown Steve didn’t though…

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          @Steve:

          I didn’t have to look ‘em up, but I did steal ‘em. At least one of them was Henny Youngman.

  3. JG_ism says:
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    January Grey! Been a while, congrats on catching a cougar.
    Itsalmost time for keepers, 13 team roto 5×5 bla bla blah.

    Already plan on Giancarlo ($27) Starlin Castro ($9) and most likely J Zimm at $15.
    only allowed4 keepers, was planning on Morse ($1) but his move to Seattle kinda makes me want to run awayas quickly as possible.

    Heres some others to choosefrom
    Alex Gordon ($17) Moustakas($11) Gallardo ($27) The Weave ($32)

    Any thoughts…? Thanks, congrats

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JG_ism: Thanks! I’d go with Morse still for $1…

  4. 2 Giant rings says:
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    You write about these guys with the enthusiasm of a 12 team ‘pert. I say they deserve more love since your12 team readers ain’t reading this far. Those of us still reading are depending on these grunts. By the way, I forgot to thank you for going deeper this year. Seriously, thank you. When I figure out why my PayPal account is not functional, I owe you for this season and last. you are tirelessly dedicated to helping out and you have a ton of patience. I’m a big fan.

    • Grey

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      @2 Giant rings: Thanks for the kind words! No problem… Yeah, I’ll be owning most of those these guys in my deeper mixed leagues (which are most of my teams) and NL or Al-Only leagues…

  5. bossmanjunior says:
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    I’m more bullish on Matt Joyce. Considering around 70% of at bats come against rhp, a player who destroys rhp should have a lot if value on a bench, more value at least than a player who will be just average against both handed pitchers. Obviously this implies an owner would need to appropriately use a player with discernable platoon splits to gain said advantage.

    In his career, Joyce has hit .265/.355/.496 with a 851 ops, 231 iso and 134 wRC+ against north paws. Further, he is also much better the first two months of the season (.933 and 1.020 career ops in April and May respectively), so he could offer more value out of the gate rather than later on.

    http://www.draysbay.com/2013/1/28/3909672/on-matt-joyces-ability-to-hit-left-handed-pitchers

    Interesting article about Joyce’s inability versus same handed pitching. Basically says his splits versus lhp look worse than they should because the majority of at bats he has received against lhp have come against loogies late in the game. Even so, he has statistically fairest better than average against these pitchers compared to his fellow left-handed hitters. This leads one to believe that against left-handed starters, who carry more neutral splits, he could actually be an above average hitter given everyday at bats.

    But I digress…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: I always wondered how much that affected hitters who are already weak vs. one side… Here they are bad against one side then they have to face specialists to compound the problem…

  6. Jef says:
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    With all due respect regarding Mastroianni and Ben Revere, but 3 times zero homers is ZERO. BOOM! Math snap!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jef: The flash cards are paying off!

  7. DKulich44 says:
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    Grey,
    Mariners fan here (what a sad life that is). Just wanted to let you know the Big FraGu is currently their starting CF, not splitting time in a corner. That is unless the sign Bourn or Gutierrez comes down with West Nile Virus. It’s looking like Morse and Saunders will be in the corners, with Ibanez and Wells on the bench. I’d be surprised if Bay makes the team, he’ll have to have a good spring.

    That said, I don’t think it affects Gutierrez’s ranking much, because there’s a good chance he loses playing time being injured.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @DKulich44: Yeah, I know how they are currently penciled in but that won’t last much longer than mid-April… Or, yeah, he gets injured…

      • DKulich44 says:
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        @Grey: Fair assessment. I’m still hoping for a FraGu bounce back and not much Jason Bay on my lawn.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          A FraGu bounce back? Aw, geez…

    • Paddyman says:
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      @Eddy: Wow. That’s unbelievable. Gio too? That’ll shake up some preseason rankings!

      • popups and popovers says:
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        @Paddyman: FWIW, I think the items Gio was linked to are not on the banned substances list…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Were Gio’s substances allowable? That’s what I’m reading too…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              That’s good news….

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Eddy: Wow, hopefully they all used FedEx…

  8. Bob says:
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    I’m in a 10 team H2H league that you can keep 5 players with no penalty. Pretty much standard league. All the regular positions and 1 util and 5 sps. I have decided to keep Trout, McCutch, Hamels, Beltre and Ryan Zman (Unfortunetly, Ryan is one of my favorite players so he will be my keeper for at least another 3 years barring death). I have a trade offer where I get cargo and he gets Ellsbury, Gio and Beltre but we swap 3rd rounders (he has the first pick in the round and I have the 9th). Since I’m not keeping Gio or Ells my thinking is it is a Beltre for Cargo trade. Ill have my OF filled if I do it and if I don’t ill have my util filled. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Bob: Sure, take CarGo…

  9. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Hey, my deep league isn’t crazy! Can’t argue with the other two adjectives though.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky: Ha…

  10. ReleasetheMcKraken says:
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    Thanks for all of the write ups January Grey. Would you kindly ask October Grey to weigh in on these keepers? 12 team H2H points, keep 6, $120 budget, start 4OF, 1C, 1U, no MI/CI.

    Trout 37, CSantana 27, Stanton 27, SCastro 24, Harper 20, Kipnis 18, Ellsbury 18, Zobrist 17, Gordon 15, Rizzo 11, Moustakas 4, Profar 0

    I came up with these three combos if its too much trouble to do the math:

    A Trout, Stanton, Harper, Zobrist, Gordon, Mous = 120
    B Trout, Stanton, Harper, Zobrist, Kipnis, Profar = 119
    C Trout, Stanton, Harper, Castro, Rizzo, Profar = 119

    Thanks in advance Grey and Razz community for any feedback.

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        @Grey: Aloha! Hmm not the one I was leaning towards…damn you not confirming my bias! I was leaning A since Zobrist gave me flexibility to target ether SS or 2B during the draft. Last year Zobrist was a top 4 2B, top 3 SS, and top 8 OF in my format. Castro was top 6 SS, Gordon was top 12 OF…

    • UncleLarryWalker says:
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      @ReleasetheMcKraken: I agree with C, unless you make D: Trout, Stanton, Harper, Castro, Kipinis, Profar. and then just draft 1b…

      • ReleasetheMcKraken says:
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        @UncleLarryWalker: Hi Uncle Larry! Unfortunately the math doesn’t work. Trout, Stanton, Harper, Castro leaves me $12 which prices me out of Kipnis/Zobrist/Gordon. That’s how I wound up with an $11 Rizzo and $0 Profar in proposal C.

        Does Castro/Rizzo/Profar provide that much more value than Zobrist/Gordon/Mous? It seems like Castro and Gordon are a wash. Wouldn’t it take a big step forward from Rizzo and a solid 3/4 of a season from Profar to equal the baseline returns from full seasons of Zobrist and Mous?

  11. Hoog says:
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    Congrats on the engagement Grey! It’s keeper time and I have a few questions…Im in a very deep 12 team h2h league (between 10-15 players will be kept by each team pre-draft, 28 roster spots + 5 dl). My lineup looks like this right now:
    C:
    1B: Votto
    2B: Altuve
    3B:
    SS: Hanley
    OF: Cago
    OF: Granderson
    OF: Jennings
    UTIL: Marte
    SP: Strasburg, Weaver, Morrow, Hanson, Romero, D. Hudson, Harvey.
    I need to pick 3 from the following 5 players to keep: McCarthy, Holland, R. Soriano, Morneau, Uggla. Who would you recommend out of these 5?

    Also, what do you think of Montero and Marte as keeper options? I can keep them, but they would be locked in for 4 years and would take up my last rookie slots so i’m not sure it’s worth it. (they would be the equivalent of a 27&28 round pick).

    • Hoog says:
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      @Hoog: also, it’s a 7×7 league with R, HR, RBI, AVG, SLG, BB, Net Steals for hitters and QS, BB, K’s, ERA, WHIP, Holds, and Net Saves for pitchers.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hoog: Thanks! I’d keep Montero and Marte… Soriano, McCarthy, Uggla…

  12. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    I notice there is a huge speed trend evolving in baseball, what was once a difficult fill is now turning into a blossoming market. going back to our platoon discussion yesterday, can you platoon speed. I know it takes a while to get usable catcher throw out stats for current seasons and what pitchers give up the most steals. Is there a place to get 3 year averages on that. I would love to mix a speedster into my platooning. btw, all this talk of platooning makes me want to say, “well let’s hear about it potheads” ala Barnes.

    • Grey

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      Ha! I don’t platoon speed as much as I’ll fill in on a short schedule day with a guy that might steal a base… A cheap one or two a month over the course of the season could make a difference… I’m not sure where the three year averages are on catchers, but I actually don’t think they change much… If a guy can’t throw out runners, that usually doesn’t change from year to year…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: what a pitchers, i remember when chris young was in san diego it was like free steals day. I never platoon all year, I like to tinker. my rule of thumb was if a speedster has a good BA and/or walks vs. the pitcher he is facing then I will put him in and roll the dice.

        • Grey

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          Yeah, think we’re saying the same thing… Find a guy for steals one day and move on… Chris Young is a steals-allowing machine… A.J. Burnett was bad this past year, there’s stats for everyone at ESPN…

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            @Grey: any Pirates pitcher this last year was a free pass to 2B, basically. I’m interested to see if Russ Martin helps with that at all…

  13. Mr. Gray: I know you have to put them somewhere… But, do you have to be so mean doing it???

    Here is an abbreviated list of fellas, I’m patting on the head and saying, ” That’s OK… Yes, I know he’s a mean mean man… He is just a tout after all… Forget about Cowgirl or whatever his name is being listed above you all – there is nothing you can do about it now… NO!!! No!!! …You can’t kick the crap out of the Razz at the next Fan-Fest he shows up at with his autograph book…. Now, go out there and show them what you can do, men””” to … ****A loud cheer and running cleats are heard on the dugout steps…****

    David Murphy: For the right team a finesse pickup that is BA sensitive at the end of the draft… A lot of name above him would be worse for that team… He is a full time 550 AB guy this year… David!!!! That Gatorade cooler your beating with your bat is not Mr Grey… Get your glove and get out there!!!… NOW!!!!

    Carlos Quentin: “Stay here in the dugout for a minute would ya… Yeah, I know you were hurt last year… And 98th is harsh… Carlos, you need to get out of the box this year with one of your nice power streaks and you’ll be a top Razzball 50 OFer again… If that does not happen, you’ll do it sometime during the season for somebody… Just keep swinging that bat.. And try and stay healthy… Cowgill is not to be touched, OK… He didn’t pay Mr. Grey to list him… Somebody else must have”…

    Garret Jones:. A fine bench tool for any daily play deeper leagues… Hitting in the heart of the order… While, he is not Harold Baines – he is like him in that you don’t want him hitting every day – he is a better roto player then… Worthy for his power and RBIs if needed..

    Rug – The Hit Man -giano: If he’s not starting, who is in that shipwreck of a AAAA team.. 500 + ABs could be quite interesting… He may be part of a decent combo in the Mid of the BO… Bargain basement Speed, Power, BA combo here… IF????

    Morrison: If healthy, might do you fine… He is 25 YO and finally may figure it out this year… Should get the opportunity to too… BA bounce could happen!!! – **** Bitterness and impatience are not charming qualities in a tout..

    Houston is more scary than the Fish in my mind..

    COWGIRL Humph!!!

    P.S. Suzanne has turned out to be a real problem… What a nuisance!!! Think, there is more than fantasy BB on his mind… I’ve told him as I’ve told you before, I’m not that type metrosexual… Funny, he says, he posts on here all the time… He said to say, hello… Small world… Go figure…

    Missing Mr. M now

  14. Mr. Gray: I know you have to put them somewhere… But, do you have to be so mean doing it???

    Here is an abbreviated list of fellas, I’m patting on the head and saying, ” That’s OK… Yes, I know he’s a mean mean man… He is just a tout after all… Forget about Cowgirl or whatever his name is being listed above you all – there is nothing you can do about it now… NO!!! No!!! …You can’t kick the crap out of the Razz at the next Fan-Fest he shows up at with his autograph book…. Now, go out there and show them what you can do, men””” to … ****A loud cheer and running cleats are heard on the dugout steps…****

    David Murphy: For the right team a finesse pickup that is BA sensitive at the end of the draft… A lot of name above him would be worse for that team… He is a full time 550 AB guy this year… David!!!! That Gatorade cooler your beating with your bat is not Mr Grey… Get your glove and get out there!!!… NOW!!!!

    Carlos Quentin: “Stay here in the dugout for a minute would ya… Yeah, I know you were hurt last year… And 98th is harsh… Carlos, you need to get out of the box this year with one of your nice power streaks and you’ll be a top Razzball 50 OFer again… If that does not happen, you’ll do it sometime during the season for somebody… Just keep swinging that bat.. And try and stay healthy… Cowgill is not to be touched, OK… He didn’t pay Mr. Grey to list him… Somebody else must have”…

    Garret Jones:. A fine bench tool for any daily play deeper leagues… Hitting in the heart of the order… While, he is not Harold Baines – he is like him in that you don’t want him hitting every day – he is a better roto player then… Worthy for his power and RBIs if needed..

    Rug – The Hit Man -giano: If he’s not starting, who is in that shipwreck of a AAAA team.. 500 + ABs could be quite interesting… He may be part of a decent combo in the Mid of the BO… Bargain basement Speed, Power, BA combo here… IF????

    Morrison: If healthy, might do you fine… He is 25 YO and finally may figure it out this year… Should get the opportunity to too… BA bounce could happen!!! – **** Bitterness and impatience are not charming qualities in a tout..

    Houston is more scary than the Fish in my mind..

    COWGIRL Humph!!!

    P.S. Suzanne has turned out to be a real problem… What a nuisance!!! Think, there is more than fantasy BB on his mind… I’ve told him as I’ve told you before, I’m not that type metrosexual… Funny, he says, he posts on here all the time… He said to say, hello… Small world… Go figure…

    Missing Mr. M now

    • @t moore: How did that happen??… Sorry

      • Grey

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        @t moore: Ha… I kinda like it twice… It’s like, “Hey, you don’t want trust me? Well, how about now? Now? Now? Now?” I agree that Murphy isn’t really that bad, but he’s the first one dropped by most people in 12 team leagues or shallower… His end of the year numbers are always decent, but never wonderful… He is the bar for 5th outfielders…

        • @Grey:

          Mr Gray… You are right … You had better stay out TonsureTown for the foreseeable future… It may not be safe there for you… 98th????.. Hope, you weren’t planning on it for your Honeymoon destination…

          If asked, I didn’t say this – You may be spot-on though…

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Agreed… I’m banned for the foreseeable future…

        • Steve says:
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          @Grey: He’s one of those guys that I always seem to pick up just a little bit too late – and then hang on too just a little bit too long…

  15. DKohn says:
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    Grey, is it just me or do not enough people (no one) take advantage of the rule that once a player crosses foul territory anything is fair game. I mean obviously your first instinct is to not get rocked by a foul ball, but a popup? C’mon! Block with the left, cause havoc with the right, steal a glove, knock off his hat, give him a Mitch Kupchak! I’m looking to you Philly fans, it’s time we take home field advantage to the next level!

    • Grey

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      Are we still working on our Arena Baseball game? I don’t think anything is fair game, I mean if a fan interferes it can be called an out, so if a player interferes I’m sure the same is true…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        so midgets, giants in armor, air horns, stripper base coaches, polar bears and the lastest is every half inning a new fan gets to come on to the field and try and disrupt play whenever there is a batted ball. Just keeps getting better.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Dwarfs get in for free, midgets pay regular price, people who can’t tell them apart pay double…

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            if you don’t want to pay double you can shave your head and donate your hair instead.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Heads shaved by dwarfs… Bill Veeck ain’t got nothing on me!

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      @DKohn: Pretty sure the fielder has the right of way going for the ball near the runner in every single circumstance. Runner’s not out if he gets hit by a foul, but he IS out of he doesn’t make way for the fielder. (If that’s what you’re talking about.)

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        @Jay29: Oh nevermind, you’re talking about fans. Yeah, fans can probably get away with a lot of they make it look believably accidental.

  16. DKohn says:
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    I thought if the ball was in foul territory a player and fan have equal right to the ball, no?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      According to MLB.com, fan interference occurs when a spectator goes onto the field or reaches over, under or through a barrier and touches a ball in play or interferes with a player.

      Can’t go onto the field…

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        @Grey: Ok that’s my mistake, poor explaining, I’m talking foul line seats where players reach into the stands to try and make a catch.

        There are boundaries foul line seats have yet to push.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah… I hear ya… “Oops, did I drop a tub of nacho cheese on your head Miggy, sorry going for the ball…” Yeah, I like it…

          • DKohn says:
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            @Grey: Haha exactly, the comedy and fan appreciation to be had is endless!

            • Jay29 says:
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              @DKohn: Yeah, spilling things like beer and condiments on players needs to happen more often. How great would it be to see Josh Hamilton get doused by a 16oz Coors Light in the LF corner in Arlington this summer?

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                @Jay29: There is a great photo of an outfielder about to be drenched in beer. Tommy Davis or Reggie

                Smith I think. White Sox-Dodgers World Series probably.

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                  @Wallpaper Paterson: I had the right WS. Smith did come around till the late 60s, though. Davis was with the ’59 Dodgers and I just found the photo online but the caption did not indicate the name of the player.

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                    @Wallpaper Paterson: smith did not come around… That should have read.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Link to the photo?

  17. Schwab says:
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    Hey Grey,
    8 team H2H keeper point league. Would you trade Price/Cueto or Price/Wainwright for Trout/Cain?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yes, Cueto…

  18. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    what a depressing list of can’t cut it’s, won’t see you in 3 years, i’ve over stayed my welcome, why does nobody like me, and I thought you retired guys.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… Yeah, pretty much… Some at the top will be good towards the 2nd half of the year and some in the middle will be good for a week or two here and there…

  19. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    you should call this list they “hey, grey, should i pick up_______________ and drop ___________________. He has been really been hitting the cover off the ball for the last week. I am really starting to worry about _____________________, he has been slumping real bad the last ten games”

    You ” well, billy since his streaks last no more than a week you missed out and should of picked him up when I told you on tuesday and wednesday……and thursday. Oh and be more patient, baseball is a game of streaks”

    Oh wait, that would be me being you ’cause i’m a hateful one.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That is pretty much the spot-on Mad Libs for these guys though…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: Ive been paying attention a little, Professor Grey

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m removing my monocle and nodding in your direction…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: grad school is sure educational, just a lot less weird sex

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HAHAHA! Redford said, “It’s just, well, I don’t know… SAGNOF!”

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: And he’s not the only one who’s slammed Paris Hilton. Oofa!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hey now!

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: I think if redford knows SAGNOF he might apply it to Hilton, Stupid ain’t got no face or sluts aint got no face. just sayin

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @Jack Full of Hate: Ha… True

    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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      @Steve: nice share

    • ReleasetheMcKraken says:
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      @Steve: “Hard-partying, swag grabbing…” SWAGNOF?

  20. Steve says:
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    Grey – have your views of any particular players been changed with the release of Point Shares?

    Or are you in touch with Rudy while doing your rankings, and thus any influence of Point Shares are already baked in?

    Or are your rankings done in isolation from PS?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’ve seen the Steamer projections and Point Shares before most of these posts, not all… They didn’t knowingly influence me but I was very happy to see I wasn’t alone with my love for Rutledge…

  21. Z says:
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    Apologies to all because this has nothing to do with the dirty final 20 of Grey’s top 100 outfielders, but…

    Just saw MLB’s 2013 top prospect list and was surprised to see Tyler Skaggs at #10, while Shelby Miller came in #25. Miller had a rough go in the minors last year, but was lights out when he was called up. Skaggs pitched well in the minors but was a hot mess in the bigs. I’m not saying either is going to have a lot of trouble in the pros this year, but from what I saw in 2012 Miller looked like the guy. Now, maybe it has something to do with the Bauer trade — and a clear path to starts for Skaggs, but he still has to fight off Corbin and Delgado for that 5th spot. Miller is in a similar situation fighting Rosenthal and Lynn — so maybe Lynn has a better shot and Miller starts in the pen. Anyway, I’m just sayin — with the pedigree, current off-season regimen (he weighed in at 225 rather than 205 from last year), isn’t Shelby Miller the better 2013 (and beyond) SP prospect? Please tell me what I’m missing.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miller has a higher ceiling and will probably be better this year… The only big problem is as you mention… Shelby might not have a starting job in April but Skaggs does as of right now…

  22. Jake Stone says:
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    Where would u rank Matt Carpenter at 2nd base? What do u expect of Kolten Wong this year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wong’s not going to get ABs until July and even then he’s no guarantee to get everyday playing time… Carpenter’s just below Pennington in overall rankings… Of course if Carpenter would actually have the 2nd base job (which he doesn’t), then he’d move up to around 20th overall…

      • Nicky Numbnuts says:
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        @Grey: gravatar check. Nothing to see here.

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