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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-454172</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453190&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LMack&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-454073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Titan&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453371&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;simply fred&lt;/a&gt;: yeah, i&#039;m sure grey&#039;s team looks killer using his projections....i think mine would crush his using my projections :)

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453460&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Helmet Head&lt;/a&gt;: My theme song definitely rocks more than Grey&#039;s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmT6udys8Tc.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453592&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Bourne&lt;/a&gt;: Here&#039;s a primer on Point Shares - http://razzball.com/2010-razzball-projected-point-shares-ver-1-12-team-mlb/.  Players are compared 75% against the average drafted player at their most valuable position and 25% against the averaged drafted hitter.  Pujols&#039; SBs are worth more PS than Braun because the average 1B steals less bases than OF.  So drafting Braun has an SB &#039;opportunity cost&#039; (to use business speak) because you could&#039;ve drafted Kemp or yourself at that spot.

Second, I didn&#039;t punt 1B.  It seems that Grey puts slightly more value on 1B than my Point Shares to the point where I really didn&#039;t have a 1B that I overvalued more than him.  Ryan Howard was his biggest &#039;crush&#039; but he was also $6 ahead of me on Morneau (~$18 vs. ~$24), $4 ahead of me on Fielder and Teixeira, $2 on Miggy, and we were even on Pujols and Votto.  I was $2 ahead on Youkilis but that&#039;s b/c I valued him as a 3B.  So, based on the constraints of this challenge, I had to &#039;punt&#039; it knowing I valued OF higher than Grey.

It&#039;s possible that Grey shrewdly undervalues players that had strong 2010s who may very well regress in 2011.  The estimates I use (ZiPS, Marcel) use at least 3 years worth of stats but I&#039;m sure they value last year more than past years.  I don&#039;t think I would pay $26 for Bautista this year in a 12-team mixed league (that&#039;s my price) although I can see him hitting that.  But I also disagree with Grey&#039;s decision to put Matt Kemp ahead of Carlos Gonzalez and Carl Crawford in terms of ranking...

Another note:  these are the teams.  No waiver claims/FAs.  It&#039;s a fair point that the rankings are intended to be used for real drafts and, thus, the weak spots would ideally be the ones easiest to fill on waivers/FAs.  I don&#039;t agree, though, that outfield depth is easier to acquire than C, 1B, SS, CI.  (Also don&#039;t agree that Castro is weaker than Andrus.).  I think Free Agent depth is pretty even throughout.  It might seem like OF is deeper but each team has at least 5 compared to 1-2 1Bs, SS, etc.

But Grey definitely seems to be the pre-season favorite...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453190" rel="nofollow">LMack</a>: @<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-454073" rel="nofollow">Titan</a>: Thanks.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453371" rel="nofollow">simply fred</a>: yeah, i&#8217;m sure grey&#8217;s team looks killer using his projections&#8230;.i think mine would crush his using my projections <img src='http://razzball.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453460" rel="nofollow">Helmet Head</a>: My theme song definitely rocks more than Grey&#8217;s &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmT6udys8Tc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmT6udys8Tc</a>.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453592" rel="nofollow">Michael Bourne</a>: Here&#8217;s a primer on Point Shares &#8211; <a href="http://razzball.com/2010-razzball-projected-point-shares-ver-1-12-team-mlb/" rel="nofollow">http://razzball.com/2010-razzball-projected-point-shares-ver-1-12-team-mlb/</a>.  Players are compared 75% against the average drafted player at their most valuable position and 25% against the averaged drafted hitter.  Pujols&#8217; SBs are worth more PS than Braun because the average 1B steals less bases than OF.  So drafting Braun has an SB &#8216;opportunity cost&#8217; (to use business speak) because you could&#8217;ve drafted Kemp or yourself at that spot.</p>
<p>Second, I didn&#8217;t punt 1B.  It seems that Grey puts slightly more value on 1B than my Point Shares to the point where I really didn&#8217;t have a 1B that I overvalued more than him.  Ryan Howard was his biggest &#8216;crush&#8217; but he was also $6 ahead of me on Morneau (~$18 vs. ~$24), $4 ahead of me on Fielder and Teixeira, $2 on Miggy, and we were even on Pujols and Votto.  I was $2 ahead on Youkilis but that&#8217;s b/c I valued him as a 3B.  So, based on the constraints of this challenge, I had to &#8216;punt&#8217; it knowing I valued OF higher than Grey.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that Grey shrewdly undervalues players that had strong 2010s who may very well regress in 2011.  The estimates I use (ZiPS, Marcel) use at least 3 years worth of stats but I&#8217;m sure they value last year more than past years.  I don&#8217;t think I would pay $26 for Bautista this year in a 12-team mixed league (that&#8217;s my price) although I can see him hitting that.  But I also disagree with Grey&#8217;s decision to put Matt Kemp ahead of Carlos Gonzalez and Carl Crawford in terms of ranking&#8230;</p>
<p>Another note:  these are the teams.  No waiver claims/FAs.  It&#8217;s a fair point that the rankings are intended to be used for real drafts and, thus, the weak spots would ideally be the ones easiest to fill on waivers/FAs.  I don&#8217;t agree, though, that outfield depth is easier to acquire than C, 1B, SS, CI.  (Also don&#8217;t agree that Castro is weaker than Andrus.).  I think Free Agent depth is pretty even throughout.  It might seem like OF is deeper but each team has at least 5 compared to 1-2 1Bs, SS, etc.</p>
<p>But Grey definitely seems to be the pre-season favorite&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Choi</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-454118</link>
		<dc:creator>John Choi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i like rudy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like rudy</p>
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		<title>By: Titan</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-454073</link>
		<dc:creator>Titan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Lmack...I love the stats, features, articles you share with us Rudy...many times I change my opinion of a few players after reading your stuff even if I don&#039;t jump all the way over the fence regarding certain players....keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lmack&#8230;I love the stats, features, articles you share with us Rudy&#8230;many times I change my opinion of a few players after reading your stuff even if I don&#8217;t jump all the way over the fence regarding certain players&#8230;.keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bourne</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453592</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bourne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453174&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudy Gamble&lt;/a&gt;: Your team is better than it looks at first glance.  However, I have two questions.  

First, I don&#039;t understand your rankings (Point Shares).  I did a search for a few minutes and am hoping there is an article or articles that descries how you figure it out in more detail than this one.  For example.  Pujols gest a .5 for SB but Braun gets a -.5?  is Pujols really almost twice anyone but Halladay and Hanram?  I guess I he is the best player, but not so much greater than the other top 7 1b as your point share dictates.  

Second, punting 1b makes your team look worse than it is.  I also think that extreme of punting a position that has one third of the top 20 players is more likely to put you at the bottom of your league than the top.  Your top 6 players are CarGo, Crawfish, Cruz, Bautista, Posey, and Werth.  Bautista, CarGo, Poser, and even Prado helped win many leagues last year.  However this was not simply because they were the top players at their positions.  They were top players drafted 10th round and later.  (auction price much lower than this year).  They won leagues because of their value combined with other good players who were drafted in earlier rounds.  I think what I am saying is you are paying for last year&#039;s numbers instead of this year&#039;s potential.  Much of your team (besides Cruz and Verlander) is hoping to repeat last year.  

Third, I feel more confident with Grey&#039;s team because his team is more likely to improve over last year.  Additionally, His weaker positions (outfield depth, catcher vs 1B, SS, CI ) are more likely to be replaceable in Waivers as pointed out by an earlier poster.  

Overall, I think either team could win, but the likelihood is Grey will win because his team has more upside and Rudy&#039;s has more downside.  I would like to understand Rudy&#039;s point share rankings, but I think he is overpaying for last year&#039;s players while Grey is paying for this year&#039;s potential (except Cruz and Verlander).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453174" rel="nofollow">Rudy Gamble</a>: Your team is better than it looks at first glance.  However, I have two questions.  </p>
<p>First, I don&#8217;t understand your rankings (Point Shares).  I did a search for a few minutes and am hoping there is an article or articles that descries how you figure it out in more detail than this one.  For example.  Pujols gest a .5 for SB but Braun gets a -.5?  is Pujols really almost twice anyone but Halladay and Hanram?  I guess I he is the best player, but not so much greater than the other top 7 1b as your point share dictates.  </p>
<p>Second, punting 1b makes your team look worse than it is.  I also think that extreme of punting a position that has one third of the top 20 players is more likely to put you at the bottom of your league than the top.  Your top 6 players are CarGo, Crawfish, Cruz, Bautista, Posey, and Werth.  Bautista, CarGo, Poser, and even Prado helped win many leagues last year.  However this was not simply because they were the top players at their positions.  They were top players drafted 10th round and later.  (auction price much lower than this year).  They won leagues because of their value combined with other good players who were drafted in earlier rounds.  I think what I am saying is you are paying for last year&#8217;s numbers instead of this year&#8217;s potential.  Much of your team (besides Cruz and Verlander) is hoping to repeat last year.  </p>
<p>Third, I feel more confident with Grey&#8217;s team because his team is more likely to improve over last year.  Additionally, His weaker positions (outfield depth, catcher vs 1B, SS, CI ) are more likely to be replaceable in Waivers as pointed out by an earlier poster.  </p>
<p>Overall, I think either team could win, but the likelihood is Grey will win because his team has more upside and Rudy&#8217;s has more downside.  I would like to understand Rudy&#8217;s point share rankings, but I think he is overpaying for last year&#8217;s players while Grey is paying for this year&#8217;s potential (except Cruz and Verlander).</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453532</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First for real draft tonight - 10 team 5x5 roto 

C: Iannetta (240)
C: R. Martin (241)
1B: Pujols (1)
2B: Phillips (60)
SS: Reyes (21)
3B: Youk (20)
CI: Reynolds (120)
MI: Escobar (220)
OF: Kemp (40)
OF: Krispie (80)
OF: Granderson (100)
OF: Stanton (121)
OF: Adam Jones (140)
U: Raburn (200)
SP: Lester (41)
SP: Gallardo (61)
SP: Scherzer (81)
SP: Marcum (101)
SP: Kuroda (180)
RP: Axford (141)
RP: Thornton (160)
RP: Nathan (161)
RP: Bailey (181)
BN: Zimmermann (201); E-Jax (221); ; Andres Torres (260); Minor (261); McDonald (280); Niese (281).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First for real draft tonight &#8211; 10 team 5&#215;5 roto </p>
<p>C: Iannetta (240)<br />
C: R. Martin (241)<br />
1B: Pujols (1)<br />
2B: Phillips (60)<br />
SS: Reyes (21)<br />
3B: Youk (20)<br />
CI: Reynolds (120)<br />
MI: Escobar (220)<br />
OF: Kemp (40)<br />
OF: Krispie (80)<br />
OF: Granderson (100)<br />
OF: Stanton (121)<br />
OF: Adam Jones (140)<br />
U: Raburn (200)<br />
SP: Lester (41)<br />
SP: Gallardo (61)<br />
SP: Scherzer (81)<br />
SP: Marcum (101)<br />
SP: Kuroda (180)<br />
RP: Axford (141)<br />
RP: Thornton (160)<br />
RP: Nathan (161)<br />
RP: Bailey (181)<br />
BN: Zimmermann (201); E-Jax (221); ; Andres Torres (260); Minor (261); McDonald (280); Niese (281).</p>
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		<title>By: Helmet Head</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453460</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmet Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No offense to Grey, I just don&#039;t have any idea for a Grey theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVQKQgSWgM

Perhaps Grey could buy a guitar, shave his &#039;stache, and frost his tips and make an appearance at the end of the video.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense to Grey, I just don&#8217;t have any idea for a Grey theme song.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVQKQgSWgM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVQKQgSWgM</a></p>
<p>Perhaps Grey could buy a guitar, shave his &#8216;stache, and frost his tips and make an appearance at the end of the video.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453445</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453386&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wilsoniam&lt;/a&gt;: Ellsbury... Hill...

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up&lt;/a&gt;: Ha!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453386" rel="nofollow">wilsoniam</a>: Ellsbury&#8230; Hill&#8230;</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453394" rel="nofollow">Wake Up</a>: Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up&lt;/a&gt;: *my]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453394" rel="nofollow">Wake Up</a>: *my</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a standard 5x5, it looks like it would come down to the tiebreaker...

RUNS- Rudy
HR- Grey
RBI- Grey
AVG- Rudy
SB- Grey

Wins- Rudy
K&#039;s- Grey(very close)
ERA- Rudy
WHIP- Rudy
SV&#039;s- Grey

A 5 to 5 tie.  Grey&#039;s offense is a little better.  Rudy&#039;s pitching is a little stronger. 

 There was not a whole lot of research involved.  I went with the &quot;my gut approach&quot; for about 95%.  The other 5% consisted of me spilling my tea, analyzing the way it landed, reading the leaves, having some cereal, reading the coded message sent from Rudy to Long Bawls on the box, sweating with a Shamun, then sweating when I realized he was a shahman(thanks Urban dictionary), calling Ms. Leo, and telling me girlfriend that she is the one, actually, with the large vagina, it is not that I have a small...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a standard 5&#215;5, it looks like it would come down to the tiebreaker&#8230;</p>
<p>RUNS- Rudy<br />
HR- Grey<br />
RBI- Grey<br />
AVG- Rudy<br />
SB- Grey</p>
<p>Wins- Rudy<br />
K&#8217;s- Grey(very close)<br />
ERA- Rudy<br />
WHIP- Rudy<br />
SV&#8217;s- Grey</p>
<p>A 5 to 5 tie.  Grey&#8217;s offense is a little better.  Rudy&#8217;s pitching is a little stronger. </p>
<p> There was not a whole lot of research involved.  I went with the &#8220;my gut approach&#8221; for about 95%.  The other 5% consisted of me spilling my tea, analyzing the way it landed, reading the leaves, having some cereal, reading the coded message sent from Rudy to Long Bawls on the box, sweating with a Shamun, then sweating when I realized he was a shahman(thanks Urban dictionary), calling Ms. Leo, and telling me girlfriend that she is the one, actually, with the large vagina, it is not that I have a small&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wilsoniam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilsoniam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[grey, 
in the 7th round, would you rather take a gamble on hill or s.drew in a 12 teamer? SS seems more shallow, but hill seems like more upside.

thanks.

also in a keeper ellsbury or victorino?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grey,<br />
in the 7th round, would you rather take a gamble on hill or s.drew in a 12 teamer? SS seems more shallow, but hill seems like more upside.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>also in a keeper ellsbury or victorino?</p>
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		<title>By: simply fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>simply fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ran it through the War Room.  Suprisingly, :-) , Grey wins all cats except AVG and WHIP.  Yes, the War Room uses Grey&#039;s projections, not Rudy&#039;s point shares.

Hitting: R/HR/RBI/SB/AVG

G: 1060/270/1025/173/.279
R: 1005/231/1020/163/.284

Pitching: W/K/S/ERA/WHIP

G: 86/1300/85/3.34/1.22
R: 83/1200/50/3.74/1.19]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ran it through the War Room.  Suprisingly, <img src='http://razzball.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  , Grey wins all cats except AVG and WHIP.  Yes, the War Room uses Grey&#8217;s projections, not Rudy&#8217;s point shares.</p>
<p>Hitting: R/HR/RBI/SB/AVG</p>
<p>G: 1060/270/1025/173/.279<br />
R: 1005/231/1020/163/.284</p>
<p>Pitching: W/K/S/ERA/WHIP</p>
<p>G: 86/1300/85/3.34/1.22<br />
R: 83/1200/50/3.74/1.19</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453259&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BKK&lt;/a&gt;: I agreed, Luke Scott makes his team look worse.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453275&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Swagger Jackers&lt;/a&gt;: Everyone goes through off weeks, I wouldn&#039;t discount Zimmerman.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453299&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MetsfanJames&lt;/a&gt;: 1450 isn&#039;t far from standard.  I wouldn&#039;t do anything different.  5 SPs at 200 IP is only 1000 IP.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453301&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Danks Nugs&lt;/a&gt;: No problem.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453316&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Exactly&lt;/a&gt;: Oh yeah

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453325&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sos&lt;/a&gt;: Nishioka, Cain but I have no idea the rest of your team.  Get guys that will help you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453259" rel="nofollow">BKK</a>: I agreed, Luke Scott makes his team look worse.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453275" rel="nofollow">Swagger Jackers</a>: Everyone goes through off weeks, I wouldn&#8217;t discount Zimmerman.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453299" rel="nofollow">MetsfanJames</a>: 1450 isn&#8217;t far from standard.  I wouldn&#8217;t do anything different.  5 SPs at 200 IP is only 1000 IP.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453301" rel="nofollow">Danks Nugs</a>: No problem.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453316" rel="nofollow">Exactly</a>: Oh yeah</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453325" rel="nofollow">Sos</a>: Nishioka, Cain but I have no idea the rest of your team.  Get guys that will help you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sos</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453325</link>
		<dc:creator>Sos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pick 2 for last two rounds of a keeper... EY, Desmond Jennings, Alcides, Moustakes, Headley, Boesch, Colvin, Coghlan, Cain, Nishioka, Bourjos  

Sorry for all the options...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pick 2 for last two rounds of a keeper&#8230; EY, Desmond Jennings, Alcides, Moustakes, Headley, Boesch, Colvin, Coghlan, Cain, Nishioka, Bourjos  </p>
<p>Sorry for all the options&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Exactly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exactly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little late to weigh in, but i gotta go Grey...offense is more balanced and he got Gio who just whiffed 13 guys in 2 innings in preseason...nasty!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little late to weigh in, but i gotta go Grey&#8230;offense is more balanced and he got Gio who just whiffed 13 guys in 2 innings in preseason&#8230;nasty!</p>
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		<title>By: Danks Nugs</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453301</link>
		<dc:creator>Danks Nugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453194&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: Good looks, Grey...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453194" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Good looks, Grey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MetsfanJames</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetsfanJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Grey,

In a 12 team 5x5 league rotissirie, 3 SP 2 RP 2P with an innings maximum of 1450. I have never played with an innings max before.   

What do you recommend? Try and get Top heavy SP with medicocre RP and P slots. Or 3 solid closers and play best matchups til with the other with maybe one top SP and play best matchups with the other slots? Something else?  

thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Grey,</p>
<p>In a 12 team 5&#215;5 league rotissirie, 3 SP 2 RP 2P with an innings maximum of 1450. I have never played with an innings max before.   </p>
<p>What do you recommend? Try and get Top heavy SP with medicocre RP and P slots. Or 3 solid closers and play best matchups til with the other with maybe one top SP and play best matchups with the other slots? Something else?  </p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Swagger Jackers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swagger Jackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As others have pointed out - Zimmy is having his nagging injuries again.  How much do these types of minor-injury prone players need to get knocked down the rankings in weekly leagues where you&#039;re lineup is locked costing you a week of production from your 2nd/3rd round pick?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have pointed out &#8211; Zimmy is having his nagging injuries again.  How much do these types of minor-injury prone players need to get knocked down the rankings in weekly leagues where you&#8217;re lineup is locked costing you a week of production from your 2nd/3rd round pick?</p>
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		<title>By: BKK</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453259</link>
		<dc:creator>BKK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find that I have been targeting players on both teams in mock drafts.  Grey&#039;s team stands out to me mostly because Luke Scott at 1B just isn&#039;t right, otherwise I really like your team Rudy.  Put Morneau or Butler or Huff or Morales or Konerko or Juan Miranda (for that matter) in there but visually, I see Scott at first and then have to pick a team and see Grey has Howard, I lean that way.  I agree that the infielders will actually be fairly even when you balance them across all 5 CATS.  Furcal is no guarantee to stay healthy either.  Very interesting article.  It is similar to some of the comparisons I have been doing with various mocks I have been doing while trying different strategies and targeting different players.  All that said, I would not be surprised to see Rudy&#039;s team win come October.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that I have been targeting players on both teams in mock drafts.  Grey&#8217;s team stands out to me mostly because Luke Scott at 1B just isn&#8217;t right, otherwise I really like your team Rudy.  Put Morneau or Butler or Huff or Morales or Konerko or Juan Miranda (for that matter) in there but visually, I see Scott at first and then have to pick a team and see Grey has Howard, I lean that way.  I agree that the infielders will actually be fairly even when you balance them across all 5 CATS.  Furcal is no guarantee to stay healthy either.  Very interesting article.  It is similar to some of the comparisons I have been doing with various mocks I have been doing while trying different strategies and targeting different players.  All that said, I would not be surprised to see Rudy&#8217;s team win come October.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453194</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Titan&lt;/a&gt;: Hehe

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Danks Nugs&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;d take Hanley 2nd and Miggy 3rd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453160" rel="nofollow">Titan</a>: Hehe</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453177" rel="nofollow">Danks Nugs</a>: I&#8217;d take Hanley 2nd and Miggy 3rd.</p>
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		<title>By: LMack</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453190</link>
		<dc:creator>LMack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been drinking the Grey kool-aid for too long to pick against him.

Which prompts me to say, Rudy keep churning out the articles man. Your analysis is always interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been drinking the Grey kool-aid for too long to pick against him.</p>
<p>Which prompts me to say, Rudy keep churning out the articles man. Your analysis is always interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Danks Nugs</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453177</link>
		<dc:creator>Danks Nugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoping Grey will give his opinion, but I&#039;ll take responses from all posters on this one, too. :)

I have the third pick in a 15-team draft this Saturday. Originally, I had heard that Pujols and Hanley were going to go 1-2, and I was going to choose Miggy at #3. However, I heard today that Votto might go #2. Who would you choose if Votto went second, Miggy or Hanley?

I&#039;m still leaning Miggy cuz my original strategy was to go with a 1B since it seems like a lot of the good ones are going to fly off the board early. Whaddaya think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoping Grey will give his opinion, but I&#8217;ll take responses from all posters on this one, too. <img src='http://razzball.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have the third pick in a 15-team draft this Saturday. Originally, I had heard that Pujols and Hanley were going to go 1-2, and I was going to choose Miggy at #3. However, I heard today that Votto might go #2. Who would you choose if Votto went second, Miggy or Hanley?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still leaning Miggy cuz my original strategy was to go with a 1B since it seems like a lot of the good ones are going to fly off the board early. Whaddaya think?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453174</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Titan&lt;/a&gt;: Well, I think his team is probably a better bet for power while mine is a better bet for AVG....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453160" rel="nofollow">Titan</a>: Well, I think his team is probably a better bet for power while mine is a better bet for AVG&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Titan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Titan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grey will be mopping the floor with you Rudy....sorry buddy...pitching could be close but his hitters will be crushing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey will be mopping the floor with you Rudy&#8230;.sorry buddy&#8230;pitching could be close but his hitters will be crushing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wilsonian</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453156</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilsonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453151&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chata&lt;/a&gt;: yes, I do get it. It was more of the slight difference and combination of a few different things. But I appreciate the input.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453151" rel="nofollow">chata</a>: yes, I do get it. It was more of the slight difference and combination of a few different things. But I appreciate the input.</p>
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		<title>By: chata</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453151</link>
		<dc:creator>chata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wilsonian&lt;/a&gt;: 

lincecum vs lincecum    .... push
verlander vs verlander  .... push
bills   vs   bills        .......... push

you get the idea .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453073" rel="nofollow">Wilsonian</a>: </p>
<p>lincecum vs lincecum    &#8230;. push<br />
verlander vs verlander  &#8230;. push<br />
bills   vs   bills        &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. push</p>
<p>you get the idea .</p>
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		<title>By: Wilsonian</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453148</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilsonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, according to rotoinfo, Bailey just suffered a strained forearm, no surgery, no timetable for his return.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Wilsonian</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453146</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilsonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453142&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: yeah, I know. There&#039;s just a SLIGHT difference between the two. But like I just said in response to Jack, Team B looks a lot more well rounded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453142" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: yeah, I know. There&#8217;s just a SLIGHT difference between the two. But like I just said in response to Jack, Team B looks a lot more well rounded.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilsonian</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/#comment-453145</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilsonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453114&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jack&lt;/a&gt;: thanks man. That&#039;s what I was thinking too after I put those teams down. I think Team B is much more well rounded. 

Grey told me Minor over Jackson, as well. What do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453114" rel="nofollow">Jack</a>: thanks man. That&#8217;s what I was thinking too after I put those teams down. I think Team B is much more well rounded. </p>
<p>Grey told me Minor over Jackson, as well. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453038&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike of Swartz Creek, Mi&lt;/a&gt;: Aw, give me a hug!

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453042&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RotoChampMike&lt;/a&gt;: Interesting...

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eng&lt;/a&gt;: Eh, it&#039;s usual shizz with him.  Not worried.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453064&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OaktownSteve&lt;/a&gt;: Nah, never said they were the same case but that&#039;s how these things go.  One year a player is vaulted in the rankings then the next he&#039;s artificially deflated because people overestimate last year.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wilsonian&lt;/a&gt;: I feel like this is picture perfect where you have to choose the small difference between teams.  B, Minor.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mauledbypandas&lt;/a&gt;: I agree the hitting is too light on power, the pitching looks okay though.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453136&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Long Bawls&lt;/a&gt;: Ha!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453038" rel="nofollow">Mike of Swartz Creek, Mi</a>: Aw, give me a hug!</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453042" rel="nofollow">RotoChampMike</a>: Interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453057" rel="nofollow">Eng</a>: Eh, it&#8217;s usual shizz with him.  Not worried.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453064" rel="nofollow">OaktownSteve</a>: Nah, never said they were the same case but that&#8217;s how these things go.  One year a player is vaulted in the rankings then the next he&#8217;s artificially deflated because people overestimate last year.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453073" rel="nofollow">Wilsonian</a>: I feel like this is picture perfect where you have to choose the small difference between teams.  B, Minor.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453101" rel="nofollow">mauledbypandas</a>: I agree the hitting is too light on power, the pitching looks okay though.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453136" rel="nofollow">Long Bawls</a>: Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453042&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RotoChampMike&lt;/a&gt;: Interesting analysis.  Amazing how close the teams really are!
@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453089&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jordan&lt;/a&gt;: I like your side of it.  I&#039;d take Teixeira over Morneau but much prefer Gallardo/Wilson over Chacin/Broxton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-453042" rel="nofollow">RotoChampMike</a>: Interesting analysis.  Amazing how close the teams really are!<br />
@<a href="http://razzball.com/the-grey-vs-rudy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-453089" rel="nofollow">Jordan</a>: I like your side of it.  I&#8217;d take Teixeira over Morneau but much prefer Gallardo/Wilson over Chacin/Broxton.</p>
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