Comments on: The Fantasy Baseball Hall of Fame, Second Basemen Inductees

By: Lou

Lou — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:10:27 +0000

In the immortal words of Angelica Graynamore, "I have no response to that". Lou's last blog post..A Stroll Through Second Base History

By: Underrated

Underrated — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:22:39 +0000

And if he isn’t already, I hope Bobby Grich dies. Drop dead dummy.

By: Underrated

Underrated — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:20:34 +0000

I would like to harass sweet lou’s supple buttocks.

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:37:50 +0000

BTW, notice that Eric Young is ahead of Harold Reynolds.

It’s like Eric Young is harassing Harold Reynolds…

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:03:06 +0000

1. Still waiting to cash in on my Jefferies rookie card.

2. He flamed out really young, probably why he’s ill-regarded, or not regarded at all.

3. The stache should’ve bumped him up a point or two.

By: Lou

Lou — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:15:46 +0000

Man, i have to admit, doing this on fantasy value goes against every sabermetric bone i had in my body. ANd looking at 5 year peak takes a lot of value away from players like Lou Whitaker. Some comments on previous posts

1 – Oh, what could have been with Jefferies. That 93 season (at 1B by the way) was very good, a FBHOF score of 10.4. Of course, he had a lot of competition that year, and was ranked the 16th best batter behind, to name a few, Bonds, Alomar, Griff, Molitor, Raffy, Big Hurt, Juan Gone, Carlos Baerga, Belle, Ron Gant, Marquis Grissom, Dyksta, Piazza, Matt Williams, and Olderud. OK, i named them all. Brought back too many good memories.

2 – Desheilds also hung tight with a good average. A middle infielder of the era who batted .290 with 35-55 SB a year had plenty of value.

3 – All you need to know about Grich is that he lost 602 runs, 113 HR, 473 RBI, and 88 SB because he missed the cut-off. He was certainly a better player than the others, just not a better Fantasy Player in the 80′s.

One day I will go back and include other decades for fun.

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:30:20 +0000

i figure if you didn’t even cut a break to LOU Whitaker, then you must be fair in where you set the bar.

appreciate that you cut off the list to show Harold Reynolds. grey’s got a good story about him….

By: Lou

Lou — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:49:16 +0000

Fair point about performance enhancing drugs, but if you ignored suspected losers you’d come in last every fantasy season. Grich only had one elite year in 1981 (100 G, .304, 56/22/61) and the rest of the 80′s were really just ho hum. His overall rankings in batting from 80-86: 76th, 7th, 78th, 71st, 102nd, 136th, 215th.

But he certainly had a place in fantasy leagues of the time!

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:34:49 +0000

well, this starts at 1980 and Grich was 31 by then with no semblance of speed.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/grichbo01.shtml

jefferies had some pretty sick years in there. check out 1993…

http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jeffegr01.shtml

deshields was a top 10 SB guy for 10 years. that helps in fantasy. plus he was traded for pedro…that should be worth something…

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Baseball » The Fantasy Baseball Hall of Fame, Second Basemen Inductees — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:16:23 +0000

[...] Lou Poulas wrote an interesting post today on The Fantasy Baseball Hall of Fame, Second Basemen InducteesHere’s a quick excerptThe Fantasy Baseball Hall of Fame (in conjunction with Razzball.com) is a new website dedicated to recognizing the accomplishments of Major League ballplayers during the “fantasy era” (1980-present). The greatest of these players will … [...]

By: Grey

Grey — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:34:07 +0000

@Bob: I was actually surprised to see Grich below Jefferies and Delino.

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:27:03 +0000

I nominate Bobby Grich.

Since performance enhancing drugs, you have to throw out stats. And what Grich did for a team is second to none as to the rest of them.

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Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:32:41 +0000

[...] admin wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptOur last inductee is Biggio, who also recorded several good seasons as a catcher, which counts towards his totals listed here. Consider second base his primary position, but players are elected on their overall value. … [...]