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Today concludes the fantasy baseball sleepers‘ portion of our program.  *nudges homeless woman sleeping on my couch that I tried to get Cougs to agree to a threesome with*  No more sleepers, Francine.  Meh, I’ll let her rest.  Like the outfielders to target, this post is necessary.  You need to target the right names at the end of the draft for starters.  Last year’s starters to target post included Gausman, Paxton, Velasquez, Nola, McCullers and Rich Hill.  All guys who this year are in my top 40 starters.  This year…the world!  Well, not the world, just some starters.  As with other target posts, these guys are being drafted after the top 200 overall.  Anyway, here’s some starters to target for 2017 fantasy baseball:

Lance McCullers (ESPN 233)  If he stays healthy, he will be a top 15 starter.  I’d say top 10 starter if I thought there was a chance he could stay healthy and pitch 220 IP, but even in the best case scenario healthy seasons, he won’t pitch that many innings.  I’m all about McCullers this year.  Or as Ice T calls him, McCullers-Cullers, Cullers-Cullers.

Aaron Nola (ESPN 239) Some undeniable injury risk with these first two starters, but if they’re healthy, you are gonna be so money drafting them that P. Diddy is going to remake It’s All About The Benjamins and replace Benjamins with your name.

Ivan Nova (ESPN 252, Yahoo 327)  I should’ve wrote a sleeper post for Nova.  He screams post-hype sleeper to me.  Stuff that can produce a 8+ K/9 and mid-1 BB/9, had a 3.18 ERA in the 2nd half last year, now out of that godforsaken AL East, you’re about to get a breakout year, and Oxford comma.

Jon Gray (ESPN 284, Yahoo 204)  If you’re drafting against players who are using Yahoo or ESPN’s pitcher rankings, you likely don’t need to draft a starter before the top 200.  I’m not even joking.  These first four names alone could be a decent enough pitching staff in a 12-team league or shallower.  Isn’t it also crazy how these big box sites are the ones telling you to draft Kershaw and Scherzer in the first round while also telling you that pitchers like McCullers are 200th overall picks?  ESPN puts out the absolute worst fantasy product and this is after getting rid of Snafu Berry!  As for Gray, not excited about owning him for his home starts, but he was actually better at home last year.  You say wow, I say zoinks, let’s call the whole thing off.

Joe Ross (ESPN 211)  I will say that ESPN outdid itself with awful pitcher rankings this year.  Yahoo may not be great, but when I don’t list Yahoo’s ranking number in the parenthesis, it means they ranked the player inside the top 200, sometimes a good hundred picks before ESPN ranked the player–Excuse me, who is playing that techno music while I talk about Joe Ross?

Julio Urias (ESPN 224)  Let’s pray Urias is never kidnapped, because that whole “blink once if you’re trouble, blink twice if you’re not” thing could get very confusing.

Robbie Ray (ESPN 248, Yahoo 202)  I already gave you my Robbie Ray sleeper.  There I said, “Touches on Giancarlo…Jon Bon Jovi in Blaze of Glory…Jamie Foxx with lyrics by Bob Fosse…bit you in the ass…”  Damn, I need to learn to pull better quotes.

Mike Foltynewicz (ESPN 262, Yahoo 297)  There’s gonna be so many breakouts on my fantasy teams, I’m gonna name all of my fantasy teams, “Cameron Diaz’s Acne.”  I will make an over-the-internet bet that I plan on welching on that says Faultywirewitz is going to be owned on every fantasy team by June.

Vince Velasquez (ESPN 277)  So, basically, if you’re drafting at ESPN, you don’t need to draft a starter until 250 overall.  Oh, and I gave you a Vince Velasquez sleeper too.

Michael Pineda (ESPN 246, Yahoo 203)  I was talking to Rudy the other day about Pineda and he was saying something that might have a bit of truth to it.  He was saying how you look at Pineda’s peripherals and you get excited about owning him, but you only make that mistake once, because, after you own him once, you never want any part of him again.  He just gives up too much hard contact when he misses.  I will own him and I did write a Michael Pineda sleeper, but, I’ll be honest, I will draft him in some leagues, but I’m not putting all my eggs in the Pineda omelet.

Adam Conley (ESPN/Yahoo NR) There’s another 25+ starters I would own that are coming at a great discount that you just need to go to my pitchers’ pairing tool and use that.  Hehe, I said tool.

Alex Wood (ESPN/Yahoo NR)  I actually don’t have Wood ranked either, so, like when you’re in China and you smuggle a baby back to the states with you, we got a bonus baby!  I love Wood almost as much as Jenna Jameson, but, damn, if his innings aren’t a huge question mark.  The Dodgers have a legit five starters who could be their fifth starter.  Two of them (Kazmir, Ryu) are guaranteed rotation spots if they’re healthy, and three (Stripling, Urias and Brock Stewart) could be as good as Wood.  Am I taking a flyer on Wood?  Does a bear defecate in the woods, then put it in an Easy Bake Oven and try to sell it at a bear bake sale?  Though, I’m also not paying anything more than a last round price tag.

   
  1. Randy says:
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    Good stuff Grey!

    In a 12-team, 6×6 (W, QS, ERA, WHIP, K/9, SVHD) league…is it worth it to even consider drafting a pitching squad like this: Darvish, Duffy, Maeda, McCullers, Pineda, Ray…oh and I’m keeping Gausman in the 14th round. It seems top heavy compared to what you’d advise. So tell me, should I not look to get Darvish in the 3rd round and instead try and get a guy like Abreu or Santana to fortify my hitting?? It seems like I could just wait for Duffy in round 6 then draft McCullers in the 9th or 10th and have a good set of starters with Duffy, McCullers, Gausman, and some of these late round starters early. Thanks!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Randy: Correct. You’ve basically summarized the approach to a starting pitching staff that Grey has been explaining every day for the last 45 years. Welcome.

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Cram It: The mercury rises a smidgen every day. Tremendous.

        • Old School Brother says:
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          @nick the dick: It’s a difficult concept, one that takes years of study to comprehend

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        @Cram It:
        Damn, has it been 45 years already!?

    • MattTruss

      MattTruss says:
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      I could see in a QS league wanting to get a front end horse though. It’s a legit possibility that some guys on this list go 5 2/3 IP to have innings held in check. Something to consider.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @MattTruss: the voice of reason and obviously reading too. Young arms can be a real ball buster in those leagues where a veteran arm on a team with good defense can really rack up the quality starts.

        • Cram It says:
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          @J-FOH: Duffy and Maeda aren’t young. They’re in their prime.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Cram It: you are really becoming a Grey clone with that response. I’m commenting on the approach and you only see what fits your narrow narrative and use two pitchers that have literally one good full season each.

            • Cram It says:
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              @J-FOH: No IIIII was commenting on the approach, that you still don’t need an upper tier ace. Then y’all coming with, yes, you need Darvish and those other guys are too young.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Cram It: see magoo below. format is everything and greys approach isnt a pair of elastic waist banded sweats to cure all pitching. QS can be a pain in the ass because you will end up using guys that literally give up 3 every time andgo 6 but you chase that one point in QS. That highly projectable Ace comes in real handy. I actually stopped playing QS for a few years because I grew tired of the ratio balancing act

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @J-FOH: I’d also like to add the benefit of a pitcher like Darvish that combines a high K/9 with QS likelihood. Ray worries me a lot in a QS league, he’s obviously a boost in the K/9 though. IMO Darvish stabilizes your squad.

      • Cram It says:
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        @MattTruss: I was thinking he was crafting a staff akin to the names he listed, minus a stud #1, like Darvish. But yes, some of those exact names might not be great for a QS league, namely Pineda and Ray.

        • MattTruss

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          The Royals seem awful worried about Duffy as well. Could see him having a few shorter outings this year as well. Not saying it’s right, but it’s a thing.

          • Cram It says:
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            @MattTruss: I wasn’t aware of that. He’s 28, he’s gone from almost 150 innings 2 season in a row, to 180. You’d think 200 IP would seem natural. But if they’re gonna baby him, then that’s some useful insight right therrrr.

            • MattTruss

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              Eh, it’s fairly anecdotal. Just remember his drop off at the end of last year and it put the thought in my head they might watch his innings a smidge. Not enough to avoid him, but something to think about in a QS league.

      • I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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        @MattTruss: well he’s got darvish already.

      • Old School Brother says:
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        @Grey: In my 6×6 with QS I usually try to grab one Ace in the 5-6th round, then fill out the rest of my staff with late round guys Grey recommends (starting around round 11-12). I’ve had good results with this approach

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Old School Brother: that’s roughly what I would do but I wouldn’t commit to my ace round. I get the guy I wanted like a mad bum then seek value when it was there then go to later arms. Shit one year Jair Jurgens was 2nd on my team with quality starts.

          • Old School Brother says:
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            @J-FOH: You know who else is great for QS (albeit awful K’s) my brother from another Venezuelan brother; Martin Perez!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          OSB!

          • Old School Brother says:
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            @Grey: Grey!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha

  2. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Great write-up.

    a. Just catching up with rest, showering and recuperation – oh, yeah and Razzball nation.

    b. Had to take a shower with bucket water in the UNICEF guest house in Don Ameche yesterday! There’s more but I’ll spare you the [TMI]cubed.

    c. Will look at the OF sleepers to draft later.

    d. Drafting in mock draft rooms in CBS-land and ditto on pitchers not being drafted at all early. It would appear that:

    1. Good hitters are going first, regardless of position;
    2. Good pitchers;
    3. Guys scrambling to put their lineups together with Brad Miller types;
    4. Salazar and lower types of pitchers

    Cheers,
    Ante

    Cheers,
    Ante

  3. Nick says:
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    Grey,

    Keeper team finally drafted yesterday night

    what about my pitching?
    Keepers:
    SP1/2/3/4: Archer / Salazar / Hill / Taillon
    RP1/2: KJansen / SH Oh

    drafted :
    round . (pick)
    18. (172) Cody Allen
    19. (189) Jharel Cotton (sleeper pick)
    20. (192) Nate Jones
    21. (209) Tyler Skaggs (breakout pick)
    23. (229) Carter Capps
    24. (232) Eduardo Rodríguez (appeal pick)
    25. (249) Gio González (bounceback pick)

    my RP should balance my SP stats weekly

    interesting players to consider on free agents:
    SPs: Guerra- Z Davies -A Conley – Wacha -Berrios – Giolito – Strahm – AWood – Lugo
    over : Gio ?
    RPs: Rivero – Shaw – Bedrosian – Bush – Brach
    over Capps?

    What about Giolito over Gio? too soon?
    what about Cam or Rivero instead Capps?

    Nick

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nick: Looks fine for now on SPs, Cam over Capps

  4. Olesky says:
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    Grey,

    Agree as usual, but any additional sleepers for us AL onlyers? I’ve unfortunately been burned by the Pineda pick twice before and McCullers alone ain’t going to get it done. Thanks in advance!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Olesky: in an AL only for later in the draft I would keep my eye on the A’s . The back end of that rotation has a lot of deep sleeper in it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Olesky: I just drafted Andrew Triggs, to piggyback on JFOH

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: and with your weight and my oversized back I can carry you around. Hell cougs could hop on too and you can get a tandem ride…..re reading this sounds kinda weird. Dah im too lazy to re write

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m sure you could carry us both at same time

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: challenge accepted! Preferably before we eat, I can’t carry someone for at least 45 minutes after a meal

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              *stands in line* “This ride was supposed to be open ten minutes ago.” “I hear he just had a snack.”

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I’ll wear a shirt that says don’t feed the animal

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Olesky: Oh, and Kyle Gibson has looked good in camp — you did ask for deep

  5. Brian says:
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    NL Only League trade question I’d love an opinion on please.

    I was offered an $11 Kenta Madea for my $5 Jon Gray and $8 Vincent Velasquez pre-auction. Should I take it? My only other pitcher keeper will be a $24 Jon Lester. I’m leaning against, but I do like Madea a lot.

    Thanks!

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Brian:
      I’d take Madea

      • Brian Blacklow says:
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        Made the trade. Thanks all!

  6. Brian says:
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    Also, would like your thoughts on my 15 team Mixed League dynasty that I drafted yesterday. Where might I be short or need to pursue a trade? Hitting categories include both OBP and BA and pitching categories include both saves and holds. And you can’t roster more than 7 SPs or 5 RPs total and you start 5 pitchers daily. And yes, I realize I essentially have no catcher! Thanks in advance for your thoughts and potential next steps.

    C: Jett Bandy
    1B: Joey Votto
    2B: Daniel Murphy
    SS: Dansby Swanson
    3B: Jake Lamb
    OF1: Mookie Betts
    OF2: AJ Pollack
    OF3: Max Kepler

    SP: Corey Kluber
    SP: Yu Darvish
    SP: Joe Ross
    SP: Stephen Matz
    SP: Sean Manaea
    SP: Mike Foltynewicz
    SP: Andrew Triggs (has RP eligibility)
    RP: Francisco Rodriguez
    RP: Cam Bedrosian
    RP: Addison Reed
    RP: Nate Jones
    RP: Koda Glover

    Bench: Kole Calhoun
    Bench: Eduardo Nunez
    Bench: Eric Thames
    Bench: Manuel Margot
    Bench: Andrew Susac
    Bench: Howie Kendrick
    Bench: Scott Schebler
    Bench: Mallex Smith
    Bench: Andrew Toles
    Bench: Jesse Winker

    • Cram It says:
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      @Brian: Look low on power. Definitely low on RBI.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Brian: Agree w/ Cram

  7. Bobbo says:
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    12 team 6×6 (OPS/QS)
    Would you drop Thames to pick up Gyorko as a fill-in/bench bat? I know you’re not a fan of bench bats but if you were…

  8. leon says:
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    18 man obp/slg league. Keepers. (C Santana, Correa, Odor, Polanco, Buxton)

    il have 3 picks in the first 15 picks. Here are some players available, who would you go with for 3 picks.
    Spend all 3 picks on Sp or how would you manage the 3 picks.

    Hitters- Rendon, Chris/khris davis, pedroia, obdubel, Jackie Bradley, Ian desmond(was thrown back in), Dahl, Franco, Pederson, Lamb, Trumbo, tomas, Sano

    Sp – Duffy, Hill, Nola, Gausman, McCullers, Velasquez, jon gray. Elite Relievers as well available

    • leon says:
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      @leon:

      Some other hitters to consider: Turner, Healy, pujols… And Sp: Paxton, Lackey whom I forgot in previous post.

      My biggest issue is I don’t know what I should do about 3b. Or just go allin sp.

      • Cram It says:
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        @leon: Your offense is low on power already. I’d try to get Franco to kill two birds with one stone.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @leon: Agree w/ Cram

  9. Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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    Nice! As Featherbottom mentioned in the beginning of Feb., if given the chance to start, Wood and Phelps would be top 10 in total Ks for 2017. Stoked to see Wood make the list.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mrs. Featherbottom: As Featherbottom, or a Featherbottom and you’re modestly quoting a relative?

      • Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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        @Grey: I know no modesty. How did you like your Reddit thing the other day?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Oh, it was fine, just another 300 team questions to answer

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Inside baseball talk: Everyone knows Razzball, I looked at analytics to see if we attracted new people from Reddit… Let’s just say if you’re at Reddit you know Razzball already

          • Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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            @Grey: Haha. Figured that might be the case. Completed my three drafts this past week – ended up with Thor, Springer, Sunday Santana and McCullers on all three teams.
            Auction draft went as bizarro as usual.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Love those guys, surprised no Broxton

              • Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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                @Grey: Oh, I wanted him – believe I landed him on one of the teams, just lots of Brewers fan abound.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Gotcha

  10. Franco American says:
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    KEeper question-
    Would you keep Franco or Bradley jr? If you had to give up an 11th and 12th round pick?

    My team consists of :
    C posey
    1b votto
    2b odor
    3b bregman
    Ss boegarts
    OF jd
    OF Braun
    Of
    UTil – encarcion

    Thanks

  11. nick says:
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    Take a flyer on Wood or Ryu?
    Wood is a bit wild but has a spot already. Ryu, when healthy, is probably better but doesn’t have a spot yet. How soon till McCarthy is booted out of the rotation?!

  12. Troy Nystrom says:
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    3-yr keeper weekly 6×6 with W-L, QS, and K/9.
    Would you deal 3yrs (this yr and 2 more) for this year of Quintana? Most elite and target SP get kept so you reach in draft or take fliers on prospects to cover yourself.

      • LenFuego says:
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        @Grey: Must be some kind of zen league. I say take the deal if the other guy throws in the sound of one hand clapping.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

  13. DickeyT says:
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    FML
    14 team mixed head to head. Heres my staff, had 1st pick, used 2nd and 4th on Votto and Harper as keepers. Kershaw, Salazar, McCullers, Velasquez, Cotton, Folty, Phlelps, Pomeranz. 5 start a week in head to head with all crazy points. Wasn’t crazy about staff till this article. Should I hold Pom until a possible DL comes up to stash? Only available starter left from your list is Conley

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @DickeyT: I wouldn’t have drafted Pom

      • DickeyT says:
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        @Grey: yeah i didnt get to read your monday article before the draft. Wanted shoemaker who went right before pom

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gotcha

  14. Joe Schmo says:
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    Hey Grey, was wondering if you could give me some feedback on the team I drafted last night. 5×5 12 team roto keeper. Thanks !
    C grandal
    1B goldy
    2B DJL
    3B castellanos
    SS Seager
    OF McCucthen
    OF j upton
    Of buxton
    Util rizzo
    Util kiermayer
    Bench – eaton, Holliday, moncada, Thames
    SP – madbum, Cole, Quintana, MCCullers, Walker,
    RP – Jansen, bedrosian
    Bench – Andrew Miller

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Joe Schmo: You look light on speed, which I’m fine with, otherwise looks solid

  15. Michael Utzig says:
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    Has McCullers moved ahead of Salazar or Maeda this spring for you? If forced to pick right now between those 3 who would you go with?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Michael Utzig: They’re all kinda bunched together, I don’t see why Salazar or Maeda have moved down, Salazar looks healthy

  16. OaktownSteve says:
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    I’ll add guys to consider:

    Dan Norris
    Tyler Anderson
    Trevor Cahill
    Joe Musgrove
    Charlie Morton
    HJ Ryu
    Tyler Skaggs

    A few deeper league guys to consider

    • FrankGrimes says:
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      @OaktownSteve:

      Ty Blach. Have you seen him pitch this spring?

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @FrankGrimes: With Beede reassigned to minor league camp I’ve been snatching up Blach all over.

    • Big Magoo

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      @OaktownSteve: I’m in on Norris too. Keeping an eye on the back end of the Dodgers rotation (Ryu/Wood).

    • J-FOH says:
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      @OaktownSteve: I’ve been in on Triggs and Hahn in my deeeeep leagues. What’s our resident A’s scout say. Also really high on Chad Kuhl too.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @OaktownSteve: Hey, I just drafted Triggs, any A’s insight?

  17. MattTruss

    MattTruss says:
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    FREQUENT COMMENTERS – Hit me up abut joining the Frequent Commenter League (FCL) RCL. We’re drafting Friday night with 2 spots left.

    There is a Championship Belt on the line for the winner if you can pry it from Backdoor Sliders cold, dead hands.

    • JB says:
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      @MattTruss: NL, AL or whole MLB?

      • Cram It says:
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        @JB: It’s an RCL, just like all the other RCL’s.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

          Ralph Lifshitz says:
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          @Cram It: Only it’s great, and you get a lifetime supply of “New Car Scent” air fresheners.

          • Cram It says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: And a championship belt that I used to wear around the house in the buff.

            • Ralph Lifshitz

              Ralph Lifshitz says:
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              @Cram It: Just added a three pack of Clorox wipes!

            • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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              @Cram It: That’s why i joined…i just want to smell that belt that has been on your body.

              • MattTruss

                MattTruss says:
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                HAHA!

              • Cram It says:
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                @JeF WiTh 1 F: I can’t speak for what Backdoor Sliders may or may not have done to/with it.

                • The Great Knoche says:
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                  @Cram It: With Mitch and a name like Backdoor Sliders….. I think I would have rather had it off your naked body.

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss says:
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        What Cram said

  18. The Grand Poppy says:
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    How high would you be willing to reach for Bregman in a dynasty obp draft?

  19. Cram It says:
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    James Shields in the 36th feels really good. This is my world.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cram It: Went in 35th of ours… I just drafted Luis Sardinas!

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: I got a bargain! Sardinas went in the 35th. YOU got a bargain!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Reminds of the time I got a half-off meal that led to botulism

          • The Great Knoche says:
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            @Grey: Check out this pile of dog turds I got for my number 11-14 starters in rounds 37-40

            Colby Lewis (Someone will sign him)
            Matt Garza
            Jesse Hahn
            Kyle gibson (New altered delivery maybe the answer?)

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Lewis is turrible, Garza is worse… I like Hahn and Gibson as flyers

              • The Great Knoche says:
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                @Grey: Hey 3/4 have rotation spots. I’ll take that at this point. All that’s pretty much left are Hodge Padres…I don’t think they live up to their glossary name this year.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, worse year in recent memory for Padres pitchers and best year for Padres hitters

            • Cram It says:
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              @The Great Knoche: My 11-14 are Garrett, Mejia, Shields and Mitchell. Upside yo!

              • The Great Knoche says:
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                @Cram It: Sheilds has upside?

                • Cram It says:
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                  @The Great Knoche: Well besides him. He could rebound though.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                My last 4 SPs: Kazmir, Fiers, Chacin, Amir Garrett

                • Cram It says:
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                  @Grey: I’m really happy with pitching this time around. Good balance of veteran innings eaters and upside.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Me too, can only plan so far for the inevitable injuries

    • Blackjack says:
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      @Cram It: Good like there was one left of your favorite candy in the checkout line… Or good like they at least had a pack of expired tortillas, because every loaf of bread was gone?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Haha

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        This was an analogy very popular in Soviet Russia

      • Cram It says:
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        @Blackjack: Good, like there was one Charleston Chew left for me, but no one likes them anyway.

        • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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          @Cram It: I’m down with the Vanilla and Strawberry ones, i can do without the chocolate one. Oh and put them in the fridge.

        • Blackjack says:
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          @Cram It: Rough stuff, but remember, you could’ve gotten stuck with NECCO Wafers… Which I assume would be Matt Cain in this analogy.

  20. John says:
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    I have asked this already like a month ago, but as Dahl got injured I just want to know if you guys will keep these 15 guys in a roto 5×5 league:

    Gary Sanchez, Hosmer, Odor, Bryant, Segura, Harper, Blackmon, Polanco. Dahl, Scherzer, Bumgarner, Strasburg, Hendricks, Duffy, Rich Hill

    My other options are: Kimbrel. Cody Allen, Justin Upton, Franco, Taillon

    Would you change anything?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @John: Can go Franco over Dahl

  21. Mel says:
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    Please help me pick my last keeper (we keep 6). 7×7 roto with OBP, total bases on offense, and QS and holds.

    Keeping: Kershaw, Bryant, Goldy, Correa, Harper, and…..

    Either Miggy, Villar, or Arrieta. It’s Miggy, right?

    Thank you!

    • The Grand Poppy says:
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      @Mel: Yes. Not close.

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Mel:
      Miggy

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mel: Yeah

  22. FrankGrimes says:
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    F, Marry, Kill???

    Jahrel Cotton
    Derek Norris
    Alex Cobb

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @FrankGrimes: Kill all of them, I think you mean Daniel Norris… JB and I talk about Cotton on pod

      • FrankGrimes says:
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        @Grey:
        Doh!

  23. Random Dude says:
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    I expected to see Daniel Norris on this list.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Random Dude: He may not be drafted after 200 overall, I do like him, see rankings

  24. Ron Burgundy says:
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    In a 12 team, re-draft league with an “N/A” spot to stash top prospects who start in the minors. Who stands out the most to you? 1 for batter 1 for hitter

    The best available seem to be Giolito, Clint Frazier, De Leon, Weaver, Kopech, Bellinger, Crawford,

    • I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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      @Ron Burgundy: bellinger for hitter.

  25. GormanThomas says:
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    12 team dynasty, keep forever no cost.

    Keep 2 of Cody Reed, Jose Berrios or Jose De Leon.

  26. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    Jason Hammel and Mike Montgomery are a couple of back-end starters that I’ve gotten very late this year. Cotton too, but not sure where he’s going in ESPN/Yahoo. Wacha and Gsellman are interesting late rounders. Seems like a good year to grab one or two high-end options and then wait awhile.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Big Magoo: there you go again naming names. So logical with your adaptive strategies. I love it!

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @J-FOH: Those early-mid round pitchers typically don’t return a ton of value. Maeda is probably the only guy in that 70-140 overall range that I’m targeting this year. Maybe Tanaka too, but I’m still concerned about his elbow. The early/late strategy for pitching seems to fit the player pool this year.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Big Magoo: it’s a great year for getting boring hitters a top arm and upside young arms. I’ve been all deep leagues this year because the 12 teams are boring me but I might have to sign up for one just to test these theories.

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @J-FOH: Yup, that’s pretty much how I’ve approached drafting this year. Really pleased with how my Kershaw-led team turned out.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Big Magoo: have you posted that squad yet? Not that I would sully myself with that kind of contrarian roster

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @J-FOH: I mentioned it in Grey’s post a couple of days ago, but rather than track down the link, here it is:

                C: Vogt, Wolters
                1B: Abreu
                2B: Cano
                SS: Villar
                3B: Beltre
                OF: Braun, Cespedes, Eaton, Buxton, Mazara
                MI: T. Anderson
                CI: Franco
                Util: Bird

                SP: Kershaw, Maeda, Lackey, Rodon, J. Ross, Nova, Hammel
                RP: Oh, Robertson

                Bench: Jankowski, Holliday, Saladino, G. Holland, Montgomery, Treinen, S. Wright

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Can someone talk to me about Andrew Triggs?!

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Grey: My Hammel is your Triggs, haha. Grabbed him in the last round of my first draft because his numbers are interesting, but I don’t really know much about him. Saw him once though. Has a bit of a sidearm delivery. Heavy sinker which leads to lots of grounders, which may or may not be a good thing considering how awful the A’s defense is. Misses a decent amount of bats. Moderate ceiling, low floor. Exciting!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      As I said on the podcast, I see no difference between possible outcomes for Cotton and Triggs… Maybe a bit more upside for Cotton, but he’s being drafted 200 picks prior

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I have but I confuse him with every other Fangraphs writer I’ve read

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @J-FOH: except Eno, who is probably the only one who loves us.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I guess, but if you read a Fangraphs article with the name covered, you couldn’t guess the writer who wrote it… Not necessarily a bad thing, cust kayin

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Grey: The difference for me is that Cotton has a nasty changeup. It has the potential to be an elite offering. I don’t see anything like that in Triggs’ arsenal.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, but 200 spots earlier? Meh

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Grey: Outside of the top 200, just go get your guys. Aren’t you a proponent of that philosophy?

                    Another late rounder who’s catching my eye is Liriano. Burned me last year, but he was solid with the Jays and has been lights out this spring. Talk me out of it. Please.

                    • Grey

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                      Vets are always better in the spring, he’s got such a long track record at this point, I don’t see him being anything other than what he is… Solid Ks, awful WHIP, maybe okay ERA if he gets lucky

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh, and yeah, I’m a proponent of that

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Grey: Thanks for talking me off of the ledge. The awful WHIP is what did it. I’m just a sucker for a Bugs Bunny changeup, and he still has one. Shame he doesn’t know where his pitches are going half of the time.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, totally

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Big Magoo: ah yes I recall this now. I heart your CI and Util selections. I feel like if you dont get a back end Pirates pitcher in a deep league then you are destined to lose

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @J-FOH: I think it’s a solid group. I remember bringing it up because the Kershaw/Villar start was so un-Grey like. Gave me a chuckle when I thought about it.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @Big Magoo: I was going to comment with Montgomery and Gsellman, both arms I’m targeting in all of my pitching heavy formats.

      Montgomery is a really interesting player. He’s one of 5 players in the majors with a whiff% over 10% and a GB% of 50%+ on three different pitches. The other 4 are Carrasco, Arrieta, Stroman, and …… another sleeper if he gets a gig, Ross Stripling. Then again, it’s only a matter of time till both Ryu and Wood are on the DL.

      What about David Phelps? Another off the ADP radar arm that has value in any role he occupies.

      • MattTruss

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        I’m digging Montgomery late as well, he was a prime target of mine in the Nasty

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Yeah, I definitely like Montgomery. I’ve grabbed him in the last couple of rounds in both of my leagues so far. Even if Brett Anderson gets the last spot in the rotation (which is uncertain anyway), I have no confidence in his performance or health. Montgomery has some interesting upside.

        I like Phelps too but he looks to be ticketed for the pen at the moment. Probably doesn’t need to be drafted in 12 teamers right now. Definitely interesting if/when he does join the rotation though.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Big Magoo: phelps makes too much sense out of the pen for the marlins. Has the makings of clippard when he was on the nats. I’m also thinking that if Ramos doesn’t faulter and holds the 9th then phelps makes even more sense for the marlins if they’ve are winning games. Bear claw, Ziegler and phelps can be a tough pen to overcome if they have the lead. EIther way he makes pen sense.

      • The Great Knoche says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: Was high on Gsellman, but now I am hearing rumors that Mets are reconsidering Wheeler being good to go as potential 5th starter?

        • Ralph Lifshitz

          Ralph Lifshitz says:
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          @The Great Knoche: I’ve been away from a computer all day, maybe. He’s their third best pitcher. Harvey and Wheeler have names, but I’ll take Gsellman. Same goes for Lugo.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big Magoo: Yeah, I like all of these guys too… I didn’t list every SP I like… Cotton’s price seems to be moving way too high, fwiw

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Grey: major questions about Cotton in certain format that have some value on QS. The A’s don’t like their starter seeing the 3rd time through the lineup. I really prefer Gsellman.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I do too, ranked them that way in January… Cotton’s price has gone way up too

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @Grey: I got Cotton at pick 235 in my first draft, but he does seem to be gaining momentum recently.

            Hammel is so boring that nobody has commented on him at all. He passed his physical and has landed in a pitcher-friendly situation. Think he has a chip on his shoulder after being passed over in free agency, for whatever that might be worth. Looks good this spring. Could provide SP4 production over the first few months, and he costs practically nothing at the moment.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, I’m surprised Hammel has been so off the radar, I ranked him about the highest of anyone, and I didn’t even think I was high on him

            • Ralph Lifshitz

              Ralph Lifshitz says:
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              @Big Magoo: Should pair him with Carlos Rodon, Sit Rodon from April to June and Hammel from July to September.

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Ralph Lifshitz: Check out the roster that I posted to JFOH above. I can do that!

  27. Revive85 says:
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    Dynasty league trade advice. Which side?

    Side A: Abreu and Kepler

    Side B: Strasburg, Crush Davis and AJ Reed

      • Revive85 says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!! Are you concerned at all with Abreu’s regression each year?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not especially

  28. Sweatpants Nation says:
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    Final keeper question. I was planning on keeping JD at $13 but now with the foot issue I am wondering if I ought to go different way. Would you:
    A. Still keep JD at $13 and hope he doesn’t miss a bunch of time.
    B. Keep Tomas at $2 and hope the oblique isn’t a huge issue
    C. Forget both and just go with OZUNA at $4
    D. Forget all of ’em and roll the dice on R Iglesias at $1 and hope he wins the closer roll outright

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, Grey. If he’s out for a long time then B even with his oblique? I also could go $5 Schoop but I don’t really need him other than for the bench.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Meh

  29. Steve D. says:
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    12 team, 5×5 redraft. Taking some gambles on guys like Wano, ERod, Grichuk and Peralta regaining form, but the upside potential is there. Thoughts?

    C J.T. Realmuto, Mia
    1B Paul Goldschmidt, Ari
    2B Brian Dozier, Min
    3B Matt Carpenter, StL
    SS Jean Segura, Sea
    2B/SS Addison Russell, ChC
    1B/3B Nick Castellanos, Det
    OF Ryan Braun, Mil
    OF Marcell Ozuna, Mia
    OF Randal Grichuk, StL
    OF David Peralta, Ari
    OF Matt Holliday, NYY
    UTIL Keon Broxton, Mil

    Bench Yasiel Puig, LAD OF
    Bench Manuel Margot, SD OF

    P Max Scherzer, Wsh SP
    P Chris Archer, TB SP
    P Adam Wainwright, StL SP
    P Eduardo Rodriguez, Bos SP
    P Zach Davies, Mil SP

    P Seung Hwan Oh, StL RP
    P Edwin Diaz, Sea RP
    P Neftali Feliz, Mil RP
    P Hector Neris, Phi RP

    Bench Alex Cobb, TB SP

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Steve D.: You can’t have Scherzer without having a hole on your hitting… Your CI and OF are iffy

  30. JvanSlyke says:
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    Yesterday’s podcast was awesome. Each podcast is great but yesterdays was especially informative and entertaining. Capping it off with Ralph breaking off a late 90’s Canibus level freestyle was the perfect send off.

    You guys keep pumping Story and I’m on board. There’s a small chance that Correa comes to me in Rd 2. I’m taking Goldie in rd 1. Even with Correa ranked ahead of Story, I’m tempted to take an OF (Marte/Springer) over Correa and get Story coming back in Rd 3. Should I stick to rankings if Correa falls and take him of buy the hype and ride Story with Marte/Springer?

    Thanks again, Grey!

    • Ralph Lifshitz

      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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      @JvanSlyke: When I say Can-I, you say Bus!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JvanSlyke: Ralph dropped bars!

      I’m still crazy about Halp tho, am I off here?

      I’d stick to rankings

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Grey: Crazy about Halp in general? You prefer his Alfaro takes?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Halp has the hottest Alfaro takes!

          • Ralph Lifshitz

            Ralph Lifshitz says:
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            @Grey: The man loves catchers, and shrimp parm sandwiches.

            You’re getting a little Yoko-ish, not saying you’re Yoko, but Yoko-ish.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Funny you say that, b/c I was thinking you can’t like more than one Beatle, you have to choose John or Paul… I’m going with Paul

              • Ralph Lifshitz

                Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                @Grey: I lean Paul myself. John Lennon was kind of the worst, all that peace, love, and shizz, yet he beat the crap out of his wives. That said John’s Beatle songs are probably better.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Paul is still alive tho, points for that

            • Halp

              Halp says:
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              @Ralph Lifshitz: @Grey: Hey! Harold thinks you deserve a raise, you are Mr. Fantrax, let me enjoy my Grey love!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Jealousy is the adulteress of Satan, Halp

                • Halp

                  Halp says:
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                  @Grey: Nobody makes fun of my love of shrimp parm

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    simpatico, Halp!

  31. Jason says:
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    In a 10-team, H2H keeper, would you trade Taillon for Verlander? I also have Archer, Duffy, Maeda, Gray, and Cole as starters. If so, I’d probably have to include draft picks in the deal. Can you give a little guidance on what draft picks would make the deal fair? Thanks!

  32. JB says:
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    Grey – you have an opinion on Patrick Corbin as a bounceback candidate? I’m in a DEEP 12-team auction dynasty league with 12-keepers, so everyone good is generally expensive.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JB: I’d throw a $ or two at him, I liked him a lot last year and was burned, but maybe he’s fully back now

  33. Ryan says:
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    I’m in a 20 team h2h dynasty league. Looking to shake things up a bit this year. anyway i was thinking of trading Altuve Upton Derek Fisher and Kendry Morales for Cano Moncada Mazara and Aaron Sanchez. I could definitely use another sp and I like how I don’t have to deal with the headache of Upton this year lol. Is this a trade worth considering?

  34. Rock D says:
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    Two more that I find on a lot of waivers is Musgrove and Folty.

    Not league winning pitchers but two that I think can add value. Best of all they are free

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rock D: I listed Folty in post, but spelled his name out

      • DonnieB says:
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        Drafted Cotton for $2 in auction. Hold and see or pick up Foltynewicz off waivers who will then have $10 price tag? Where do you place Gio Gonzalez among this type of pitcher? Thanks Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hold

    • Rock D says:
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      @Rock D: sorry didn’t realize you already listed Folty.

      • Rock D says:
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        @Rock D: too much to type his name out. Have to look back 3 times to check the spelling. Ain’t nobody got time for that ish haha.

        Question for you. Can you tell me the best non closer options for ratios. And as a bonus who may be the best options to take over as closer in the near future. Matt bush screams out at me but any others?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        No worries, just busting chops

  35. Mickey Maloney says:
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    I drafted three of these guys — Gray, Folty and Ross. Thanks for the confidence boost! I also took a flyer on Mike Montgomery and Eduardo Rodriguez. Considering dropping Bucholz for Alex Wood.

  36. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    PSA: JD Mart is hovering in the pick 100 range on Yahoo . . . that’s seems like a friggin steal given a foot sprain that he can already put his weight on.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wow, that is solid price

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Not sure how quickly these are adjusted, but hoping he stays there at #97 for my snake draft this weekend.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I’d take him at 50, let alone 100

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: For sure. I still think they WANT to say he’s good to go for opening day, but don’t want to rush him or miss anything tiny and have to reneg on that promise (COUGH SCHERZER COUGH).

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha, yup

  37. mcmi11ions says:
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    This is the target post i’ve been waiting for. I mentioned the other day that I just submitted keepers for a league. I’m holding 13 guys there, so I don’t get any picks until the 14th round. You have given me fuel, fire and that which i deesAYEya – OOH!

    side note. I didn’t know Alex Wood was still alive. I was all about owning him or 4 years ago I think.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, yup

  38. eric says:
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    Need to drop one: G Bird, Thames, Dahl

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Bird

  39. Tbone says:
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    Sorry…I’m an idiot.
    3-yr keeper weekly 6×6 with W-L, QS, and K/9.

    Would you deal 3yrs of Osuna (this yr and 2 more) for this year of Quintana? Most elite and target SP get kept and good closers go fast so you reach in draft or take fliers on prospects to cover yourself.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  40. Ghost Ride the WHIP says:
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    who do you prefer for MI in 6×6 with OPS
    Orlando Arcia or Tyler Saladino ?
    Arcia has the pedigree but i feel like they most likely will produce similar lines.

    Also could snag J. Polanco, galvis or schimpf

  41. phil says:
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    I have done really well the last couple of years with almost no SPs in the first 10 rounds and Stream O Nater. Are we getting a free Stream O Nater if we sign up for X this year?
    I was offered Semian for Francisco Mejia and Francis Martes. 20 team keeper with OBP. How many good years does Semian have? What do you think? I think anyone who respects pitchers or catchers says no, but that’s not me.

  42. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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    Trevor Cahill all upside your head!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ya know, I actually like that in this league… You can just play matchups once in a while

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Grey: Hell, I’m happy grabbing him and Miguel Gonzalez this late. I’ll take someone with a starting job.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I liked the Miguel Gonzalez pick too whenever it was made… You really need IP in this league… If you don’t have 15 SPs, you might be in trouble

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            @Grey: I took heed of your advice before the draft started.

            It could cause me some trouble if any infielder gets an injury.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, you need backups for those too, hence my Sardinas garbage pick

              • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                @Grey: At least he starts.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  True

  43. Cram It says:
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    What’s your RP situation in NFBC?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Osuna, Rodney and Storen

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: OK cool. Same thinking. Really scaled back on chasing saves this time around. Allen, Robertson, Doolittle. May grab one or two second in line guys, but I don’t care either way.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I might grab one more RP, but I’d prefer 8 SPs and one closer in-season if push comes to shove

          • The great knoche says:
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            @Grey: yup. 40 rounds in and sitting on 3 RP. May grab 2 more in last 10 rounds to have someone to throw in if I need to, but that will be it.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Agreed

  44. William Hung says:
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    @Grey: Team for the upcoming year is set up for success with Rizzo and Betts as my keepers… Since I won last year, I have the last pick in my draft and based on the player rankings/sleepers, I might be looking at back to back OFs as my first picks… when did the middle infield suddenly become so deep with quality late rounders, while the 3B position be so top heavy?

    Also, one of the types of players I target for that one and only bench bat is a swiss army knife player (usually Ben Zobrist), but I’ve been looking through Yahoo’s player pool and it looks like only Villar fits the bill… are there any sleeper bats that have that kind of position eligibility being ignored or is Villar the only one this year?

  45. swaggerjackers says:
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    FYI to anyone using the ranking data Grey mentioned to plan when to take these pitchers in ESPN drafts- the “Top 300” rankings appear to be managed by different people at ESPN who, in some cases, have dramatically different opinions on players depending on your league scoring format. The numbers in this blog post are from Karabell’s Roto rankings so some of these sweet deals won’t be available if your league scoring isn’t roto. Let’s take Lance McCullers ranking for example.

    Top 300 Roto ranking (written by Karabell): 235
    http://www.espn.com/fantasy/baseball/story/_/page/mlbdk2k17_rankingsroto/fantasy-baseball-ranking-top-300-players-2017-including-position-rankings

    Top 300 H2H Points League ranking (written by CockCroft): Not Ranked
    http://www.espn.com/fantasy/baseball/story/_/page/mlbdk2k17_rankingsh2hpoints/fantasy-baseball-ranking-top-300-players-2017-including-position-rankings

    Top 300 H2H Categories (written by CockCroft): 147
    http://www.espn.com/fantasy/baseball/story/_/page/mlbdk2k17_rankingsh2hcategories/fantasy-baseball-ranking-top-300-players-2017-including-position-rankings

    If you want McCullers in an ESPN H2H categories league, he’ll be popping up in default ESPN rankings on draft day at pick 147 which is much closer to the consolidated ADP data for him on FantasyPros (160).

  46. Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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    In my 12-team H2H auction – I ended up with this. I spent on OFs, and SPs – then was stuck with a lot of $1 MI and CI types. Waiver wire is fairly deep, so I ‘ll be making some moves. I’ve been toying with the idea of sending Benintendi for a better CI, but curious your thoughts on this?
    This is the first year I didn’t go all out for big HR-types. Feel like I am fairly well rounded, pending on the performance of my CI dudes.
    C: D’arnards
    1B: Bird
    2B: Forskin
    SS: Villar
    3B: Reyes
    1B/3B: Moreland
    2B/SS: Jerk-o
    OF (x5) Trout, Betts, Springer, Benintendi, Sunday Santana
    Util: Margot
    SP: Thor, Car-Mart, Duffy, McCullers, J.Gray, Hammel, Phelps
    RP: Melancon

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Love the OF, your IF is short for iffy… Lots of promise, but could be trouble… Your pitching is obvi rock solid

      • Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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        @Grey: So you think try to send Bentinendi for a CI type player? Maybe a Justin Turner type?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah something help the ol infield

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Stop whining and start winning!

              Haha, that’s pretty good, reminds me of Kim Jung-il watching things Tumblr

  47. ashtray says:
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    I’m having trouble picking 2 keepers as none of them are stand out 1st rounders:

    14 team H2H 6×6 (OBP & QS)

    I’ve narrowed it down to:

    Votto
    Correa
    Odor
    Syndergaard

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Correa, Odor

  48. Harry says:
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    Thanks Grey!
    My Car Gonzalez for his Cueto, starting 3 would be Cueto Darvish Archer..take a hit in power though (Miggy, Odor, Bregman, Curtch, Pollock, Britton Thames Mazara)
    12 tm 5×5 but QS not W

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Works for me

  49. SAll Goooood, Man says:
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    The (weird) downside of a 10-man league. I want all these guys, yet… I don’t need them as I wait and wait on pitching and the better options still sit there. Granted, they’ll all probably touch my roster through streaming.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed

  50. Steve Stevenson says:
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    10-tm AL only keeper, 5OF and 2UT, have to decide whether to let Just Dong’s $21 contract expire after this year or decide whether I want him an another 1 or 2 yrs at an additional $5 per. So what say you: keep through 2017, 18 or 19?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Just this year

  51. Robert says:
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    I’m in a 6X6 12 team, 2 Catcher, 2 Utility, OPS league. Additional stat for pitchers is losses, and instead of saves, it’s net saves+holds

    I was happy with the draft and where guys fell, although I wasn’t able to pick up Kepler because I waited too long and he actually went top 200, so I wasn’t as happy with my OF, but I got the power in other places. (I also included what round I was able to get guys)

    C – Travis D’Arnaud (20)
    C – Andrew Susac (23)
    1B – Hanley Ramirez (7)
    2B – Rougned Odor (4)
    3B – Kris Bryant (1)
    SS – Trea Turner (2)
    MI – Jonathan Schoop (11)
    CI – Anthony Rendon (5)
    OF – Byron Buxton (12)
    OF – Ender Inciarte (17) (had to pick Inciarte when the guy in front of me picked Kepler)
    OF – Matt Holliday (21)
    OF – Leonys Martin (15)
    OF – George Springer (3)
    UT – Carlos Santana (9)
    UT – Mitch Moreland (24)
    BN – Domingo Santana (27)
    BN – Travis Jankowski (28)

    SP – Danny Duffy (8)
    SP – Danny Salazar (10)
    SP – Lance McCullers (13)
    SP – Taijuan Walker (18)
    SP – Jonathan Gray (19)
    SP – Jason Hammel (25)
    SP/RP – Kenley Jansen (6)
    RP – Dellin Betances (14)
    RP – Alex Colome (16)
    RP – Adam Ottavino (22)
    BN – Brandon Maurer (26)

    (Will have to drop one RP for a starter since you can only slot 4 RP and I was confused on that going into the draft)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You look a bit low on OPS, your OF is slightly a mess for OPS, bench hitters are fine, but Jankowski is unnecessary here…. Pitching looks solid

      • Robert says:
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        @Grey: I will have to drop Jankowski for probably another OF or whatever.

        In this league Bryant has OF eligibility too so I can drop Rendon in the 3B slot and Santana in the CI slot and use whatever I want for UT and pick up a hot bat if necessary. Kepler was who I wanted to sure up OF, but I waited too long. I think getting the pop and OPS everywhere else will allow me to weather a slightly weaker OF.

        • Robert says:
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          @Robert: I also messed up by taking Schoop when Jackie Bradley Jr was still available when I could have easily waited another round on Schoop. That was another of my boneheaded moves when I still needed OF.

  52. SallyCips says:
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    The highest starter I picked was Hamels at 90, then filled out with:
    Taillon (127)
    Shoemaker (199)
    Velasquez (210)
    Smyly (223)
    Wainwright (247)

    Sadly not the guys you listed, except for Vince, but I can deal with it to start and stream a spot when necessary.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I still like these SPs, besides Wainwright

      • SallyCips says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, Wain’s on the short leash; the streamable/better option spot.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah

      • SallyCips says:
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        @Grey: Also, quick question regarding Wain. Pomerantz went undrafted because of the triceps “thing”, but has just been declared ok, and it was just mechanics. I feel like that’s a non brainer of a swap, right?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t like either

          • SallyCips says:
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            @Grey: Okie Dokie then. Sticking to the original plan. Grazie!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              De nada

  53. Q says:
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    I have a 15 team mixed league draft next week. It’s weekly lineups w/ FAAB. 2 catchers, 7 man benches, so deep rosters. Snake Draft

    Wondering what (if anything) changes from the typical Grey method.

    1. Do you bid a bit more on one of your catchers, or is it still CAGNOF?

    2. Do you take a starting pitcher from a higher tier, since daily streaming isn’t possible?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You need a top 12 catcher for one, and punt 2nd

      2. You need better pitching, better at least get a guy in the Kluber range of my ranks

  54. hondo says:
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    Rank these pieces of post draft fodder por favor.

    Lynn,Norris,Hellboy,,R.Lopez,Josh Hader,E.Santana,Jason Hammell,Wood.

  55. Steve says:
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    Who does your gut tell you will get the most saves this season (and serve as my anchor closer)

    Melancon
    Kimbrel
    Oh
    Davis

    Thanks Grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Melancon

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: thx

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          np

  56. Mike says:
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    Hey Grey!
    Love the ‘to target’ posts! Some of your best work. One quick question.

    I play in a league where you can ask for the draft pick you want, everybody gets a choice and if no one else asks for it you get it automatically. Which pick would you choose in a 10TM Yahoo competitive league? It’s a regular snake draft

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! 1st pick

  57. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    Killer post brotha!

    12tm AL only Dynasty, 13 keepers $260 cap

    I’m still at it with this guy…

    I give:
    Verlander ($19) and Sam Dyson ($2)

    he gives:
    Buxton ($5), Starlin Castro ($11), AJ Reed ($2)

    I feel like I’m overpaying, but Verlander is towards the end of his career and those dudes are young. Plus I’m shaky on Dyson with Jeffress behind him.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Meh, sounds fairish

  58. Cram It says:
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    Hi grey who is your player ranked outside ur top 500 haz going to be the next Mike Trout okay maybe not Trout LOLZ but you know someone really good that that you’ve told no one but me because ya know I could really use it lol

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Anthony Gose

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: i am not a smart man but even i know that cant be right i am going to say its mikie mahtook i haz sad that you lie to me grey i am going to take this josh hamilton kid he’s got great minor league numbers he just needs a chance

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Don’t sleep on JaCoby Jones, he spells his name in a fun way

  59. Cram It says:
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    Seriously though, I was looking to take Jeb Lowrie with my next pick as my bench MI….and JB just took him…as his starting 2B.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      NO! Stop it! JB’s starting 2B is Jed Lowrie? He’s still available in my league

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: Haha. I mean, unless he’s doing some multi-eligible positional moving that I can’t see, yeah. I’m almost positive that’s his only 2B. His other MI’s and CI’s outside of Rizzo, are Villar, Yunel freaking Escobar, Solarte, Aledmys Diaz, AJ Reed and Saldinas.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Cram It: Oh I missed Crush, but still, that MI situation is worrisome.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Well, he’s learning the hard way

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Maybe Solarte? Not sure his elig.

          • The Great Knoche says:
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            @Grey: Solarte will get 2B eligibility but not right away.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, makes sense

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I mean, not a ton of sense, but some

                • The Great Knoche says:
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                  @Grey: Maybe you should ask JB on the podcast next week if you can do an article on both your drafts.

                  What you should try and do….and JBs NFBC draft

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    HA… I think we’re done talking NFBC other than some throwaway lines about players we own

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: And you already know that Greinke is his ace.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I begged him to fix his pitching staff after I heard that, maybe I pushed too much the idea of him only drafting starters for the next 15 rounds

          • Cram It says:
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            @Grey: Ha. May be salvageable. But it’s a lot of youth.
            Shoemaker
            Blake Snell
            Dylan Bundy
            Adam Conley
            Jose De Leon
            Charlie Morton
            Joe Musgrove
            Lucas Giolito
            Patrick Corbin
            Chad Kuhl
            Jimmy Nelson
            Wily Peralta

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ugh, him and those Brewers SPs… Miller Park isn’t good for pitchers! Why won’t he listen to me?

              • Cram It says:
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                @Grey: JB is his own expert, Grey. It’s his first one? That would explain a lot. Def a learning curve.

  60. Chicken Shack says:
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    12 Team Rotowire NFBC team
    Picked up Ian Desmond in the fourth before the injury. You think I can get by playing matchups with Granderson and Span or do I need to troll the wire and blow some some FAB ???

    • Chicken Shack says:
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      @Chicken Shack:

      Werth, Moss, and Markakis are options

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Use Grandy for now, games haven’t even started

      • Chicken Shack says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks coach

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You’re welcome, Chicken Shack

  61. Willie Mickey and the Duke says:
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    I’m in a 12 team 5×5 keeper (10 keepers). I have the 4 th pick in the first round of the draft. I inherited the team and this is my first year. Pitching keepers are good (Archer, Cueto, Quintana and Salazar). I need power and speed since I was left with Ramirez as my only base stealer and Franco and Bradley as the best of my other players. I traded for Travis. Choice in the first round seems to be down to Buxton,Broxton and Peraza. Can you order them for me. Thanks as usual

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Buxton, Peraza

  62. Dougie says:
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    Now that I’ve traded Scherzer and Syndergaard for picks, I have to set my 3 keepers tmw. I thought I was good with EE Freeman and JD, but this second opinion has me worried. Do I stick with him ya think? My other option is Cruz, or or I cash em in and take the best available which will be slim pickins. If Martinez does have to start the season on the DL… I pick 12th so it puts me in a bad spot. Thoughts?
    Also, where do you rank desmond now? Did you update the top 500 after he went down? He’s gotta be worth a stash right?

  63. Rabbit says:
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    Oxford comma! Dammit I love that sort of oblique reference from you Grey, and I’m not talking about a bad back. That only could be surpassed by musings on the Cambridge semicolon. Now somebody has to make an obligatory reference to Vampire Weekend’s “Who gives a f— about an Oxford comma…”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA

  64. L-Boogie says:
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    Yo, yo. Did you do that hitter pairing post this year? I don’t see it on the rankings or tools page. I see the pitcher pairing, but no hitters.

    Thanks.

      • L-Boogie says:
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        @Grey: sweet. Thanks. Picking 12…again. miggy/turner sounds very interesting. Any concerns about Miggy’s back or is it just a WBC/spring training precaution that he is sitting?

        Or maybe 8 pitchers will be taken in the first round and I’ll have a shot at arenado.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Miggy would be playing if it was reg. season

  65. M says:
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    Keeper list was released today can you please rank these 6 teams?
    6x6obp league 15 teams roto

    Team A:
    E. Gattis
    A.Rizzo
    R.Healy
    M.Carpenter
    J.Schoop
    T.Anderson
    JD Mart
    W.Myers
    Urias
    R.Hill

    Team B:
    Realmuto
    Bird
    didi
    Margot
    Kershaw
    Lester
    Matz
    Pomerantz
    K-Rod
    Oh

    Team C:
    Bregman
    Cano
    Russell
    Story
    Yelich
    Swanson
    C-Mart
    Darvish
    VV
    Dan Norris

    Team D:
    A.Rendon
    D.Gordon
    Treat Urner
    Machado
    Blackmon
    Dahl
    Kluber
    Paxton
    J.Ross
    D.Duffy

    Team E:
    J.Bell
    Kang
    Altuve
    Dozier
    J.Reyes
    Sale
    Cobb
    Cole
    Skaggs
    Karns

    Team F:
    T.Murphy
    HanRam
    Bryant
    Peraza
    Pollock
    Albie’s
    C.Seager
    Carrasco
    Chapman

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      D, F, C, A

      • M says:
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        @Grey: thanks Boss! Team D is a razzball guy lol

        • Cram It says:
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          @M: D does have the best offense by a good margin.

          • M says:
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            @Cram It: thanks Cram!

  66. Nightpandas says:
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    Great podcast today Grey!

    Going into my Obp slg k/9 qs 15 team draft Sunday with my locked in keepers (from 2 weeks ago) as:

    Schwarber (c) Votto (1) Kinsler (2) Longo (3) Desmond (lf/cf) Trumbo (rf) Hanley (u) Sale Darvish Hill (sp) Chapman (rp)

    10 round draft all my picks in first 5

    Wondering if I should 1) move Chapman Kinsler for Gordon Diaz since I am low on speed, or 2) stay put and go after Tim Anderson/Rajai/Broxton/Margot types at lf cf ss

    • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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      @Nightpandas: I’d stay put and go after broxton

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Trade works for me

  67. Jim says:
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    New to the site love it so far. Forgive me if you’ve answered this a thousand times. I typically hold off on pitching as you suggest but this new league I’m in has me thinking twice. It’s a 14 team 6×6 redraft. Pitching cats are QS, ERA, WHIP, K9, HR, SV but the kicker is it requires 7 minimum starts per week for pitching stats to kick in. I pick 14 so not in love with any of the offensive guys that will come to me and am considering taking an ace possible 2 to start the draft. Any and all thots are appreciated.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! You need an ace, but I wouldn’t take two… I’d draft a top ten SP in your league

  68. Cohen says:
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    Grey,12 team roto,draft strat question,i have been drafting Rendon for 3rd base in 8th round around 85th pick everytime.My other strategy was grabing Peraza at 85 th pick because i really like him and dont think he wil be around much later and then grabbing a sugar packet guy for 3rd base like Franco or Lamb in the 11th round about pick 130.Do u have a problem with either one of the strategies?

    • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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      @Cohen: if you took Rendon who would likely be your next option at whatever position you’re planning on using Peraza at..that would have to be factored In

      • Cohen says:
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        @JeF WiTh 1 F: i was looking at taking Russell in the 11th around 130 and getting more sagnof later

        • Cohen says:
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          @Cohen: thank u

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not at all

      • Cohen says:
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        @Grey: thank u

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  69. Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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    in a 10 team h2h league where we draft 3 real life hitting sets (all players on that roster from this date) and 3 real life pitching teams with QS/holds/k/9, OPS, steals %/total bases added. start 2 of each infield hitting spot, 1 LF/CF/RF each, 2 extra OF’ers. 7 RP slots. 8 moves per week (you stream from your own rosters, but we can trade with each other too). prospects are included in what we own.
    i have
    COL hitting(drafted 1.3, i have as best hitting team)
    WAS pitching (2.8 i have as 5th best pitching team)
    BAL hitting (3.3 i have as 5th best hitting team)
    DET pitching (4.8 i have as 14th best pitching team)

    after getting the 1st and 5th best hitting teams i was all set to go pitching/pitching (DET was first of that), but now i see MIL hitting out there maybe in 2 picks when i go again. i have them much higher than the remaining hitting teams and also highest in total value of any team left. do i draft MIL hitting or go with original plan of grabbing best pitching staff so i don’t get caught with a bottom 3 pitching staff at 6.8 (MIN/SD/CIN/COL/MIL)

    current offense is pretty damn sick except in steals
    C beef welington
    C murphy (when healthy)
    1B c.davis
    1B desmond (or maybe i still him in LF when healthy)
    2B lemehieu
    2B schoop
    3B arenado
    3B (could put manny here too of course depending on my last hitting team)
    SS machado
    SS story
    LF parra (for now, dahl/desmond later)
    CF blackman
    RF cargo
    OF jones
    OF trumbo
    you’ll notice that other than catcher my team is completely sick in everything except steals.

    thus far the pitching
    SP verlander/scherzer/fulmer/stras/j.ross
    RP kelley/glover or blanton/f-rod/j.wilson

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take MIL hitting

    • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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      @Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo: oh the best remaining pitching staffs are
      KC (my 17th pitching team)
      ARI (19th)
      BAL (22nd)
      ATL (23rd)
      and all the ones worse, so i’d definitely get crap with my last pitching if i did this.

      • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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        @Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo: and KC as my last pitching if i didn’t grab MIL.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Think ATL’s better and trying to get Quintana

        • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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          @Grey: quintana would remain a WSOX guy, no trades made in real life affect us.

  70. JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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    Here’s how that team i had the 8 keepers is shaping up..12 roto standard, still drafting…
    C. Y.Grandal
    1b H.Ramirez
    2b. D.Gordon
    3b. M.Franco
    SS. C.Seager
    OF. Y.Cespedes
    OF. J.D. Martinez
    OF. G.Springer
    Util. S.Piscotty
    BN. M.Kepler
    BN. J.Pederson
    P. K.Maeda
    P. L.Mcullers
    P. J.Lackey
    P. J.Paxton
    P. J.Gray
    RP. R.Madson
    RP. F.Rodney
    Other than the fact I’m going to need to make a deal for a closer and add a bench bat for speed I like where I’m at…there is a 1350 innings cap which basically limits you to 6 starters and 2 or 3 receivers or 5 starters and an extra 2 relivers…I’m hoping to grab Nova next and Jankowski after that.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Looks solid! You still have same issus that if something happens with Gordon, your steals are trouble, but team’s fine in general… I like Jankowski late grab there

      • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, yeah I’m really reliant on Gordon…Sagnof

  71. rick says:
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    greg bird get a bump up now that hes official starter?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Never thought he’d lose that much ABs anyway… Carter will still see some lefties

  72. L-Boogie says:
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    Thoughts on trading picks. I’m at 12, guy at 2 is offering to trade. We would swap round 1 picks (so I would have 2 and 13) and then he would get 2 picks in round x (4?) and I would get 2 picks a few rounds later (8?). The rounds are negotiable. At what point is it worth it to get a top 2 guy over a guy Donaldson or Miggy? Anyone seeing any dead spots in ADP where I should be willing to make the swap? Obviously he wouldn’t do close rounds like 7 for 8, but what about 5 for 8? 6 for 9? Or scrap the whole idea?

    • Cram It says:
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      @L-Boogie: If you screw up the first two rounds regardless of slotting, you’ve got issues. I wouldn’t give up the 4 th rd for that.

    • Cram It says:
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      @L-Boogie: Rd 6 for 9, yeah maybe. Find out how low a round he’ll go first.

      • L-Boogie says:
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        @Cram It: asked him that right after I wrote this. Still waiting for an answer. Joked that we could do rounds 18 and 26.

  73. ThE sHiT says:
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    Grey: can you give commenter Bas from Holland my email address so he can contact me with his info so i can draft for his keeper league on Sat? I forgot to reply to yesterdays post after i got to work.

    • Cram It says:
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      @ThE sHiT: Didn’t he leave his email in the comments?

  74. The folty in our stars says:
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    Cotton or Folty? 12 team yahoo roto with qs and sv+h

    Or wait til season starts and I can put a guy on DL and grab him then?

    Hope your predictions are right I think my pitching is 50/50 these guys and the ones from last year mentioned in the header…thanks

  75. Chris says:
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    Hello Grey,

    Please let me know your thoughts about my team.

    h2h, 14 team
    c, 1b, 2b, 3b, ss, of, of, of, utl, utl
    r, hits, 2b, 3b, hr, rbi, sb, bb, avg
    w, l, sv, k, hld, era, whip, k/0, qs

    C – Grandal
    1b – Chris Davis (k)
    2b – Cano (k)
    3b – Moustakas
    ss – Tulowitzki
    OF – JD Martinez (k)
    OF – Trumbo (k)
    OF – Lorenzo Cain
    UTL – O. Herrera
    UTL – Kepler
    BN – Kiermaier

    Sp – Kluber (k), Price (k), Quintana (k), Duffy, Snell, I. Nova, Alex Wood, Hellickson
    RP- Kelley, Bedrosian, Ottavino

    Seeing I will start the season with Price, JD Martinez in DL, I drafted first Duffy and then added Cain.
    I focused my picks with good avg, runs, and sb, since my keepers can hold the HR. I feel light on rbis.
    When Price goes to DL, I will add a RP

    Thanks for your thoughts!
    Chris

    • Cram It says:
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      @Chris: I don’t see good avg or SB

  76. FrankGrimes says:
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    Brandon Crawford is so money.

  77. steve says:
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    Was offered A-a-ron Sanchez for Adam Duvall. Thoughts?

  78. jack florida says:
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    stuck on a keeper question –16 teams, 16 keepers , keep forever, i already have 11 solid keepers, need to choose 5 out of this group, thanks

    dev travis gausman
    cargo taillon
    cain, colome
    margot rodon
    broxton
    mazara

  79. Jon says:
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    Hi Grey, question about two of your favorite players – I’m in a 12 team H2H league. I can keep anywhere from 0 to 5 players, straightforward, no draft ramifications. 3 are no brainers – Arenado, Goldschmidt, Harper. The last two slots seem like no brainers – Odor and Springer. However, we have extra categories in addition to the standard 5 (Hits, OBP, strikeouts) that diminish the value of both players. Do I keep them, and start the draft in round 6? Or throw them back and move forward with 3 keepers, taking my chances with what’s available in rounds 4 and 5?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keep them

      • Jon says:
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        @Grey: thanks for the response. I’m leaning that way. But I’m hesitant because (1) according to baseball monster, with my league settings they were ranked 83rd (Springer) and 118th (Odor) last season and (2) I’m going to be able to snag Yu Darvish with one of those picks (who I love this season).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You know your league settings better than me

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