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A baseball historian named Philbus Elbert once said, “The only thing better than baseball in the spring is baseball in the fall.”  Philbus was also a diabetic, had a severe drinking problem and died of gonorrhea that he contracted from a horse.  Baseball, like a flower, blooms in the spring.  They also share equally effusive PR people.  Just the other day I read about how a petunia’s branches had gained 15 pounds and were in the best shape of its life.  Sure, it’s always good to look at spring training numbers to give you an idea what you can expect from guys during the season — can I draft Jedd Gyorko yet?!  Players in spring training are facing the top pitchers who are all displaying their best stuff.  No one needs time to get warmed up.  No one’s trying new pitches or getting a feel for the ball. They are at the height of their game in March.  In fact, I think someone should propose to Bud that the World Series could easily be played in March. Yes, The March Classic.  I like how that sounds.  Since these spring training numbers mean so much, I decided to look at some players’ stats so far:

Lorenzo Cain – Hitting .426/.475/.870 and might just have the early lead on MVP and Cy Young.  Has he pitched?  No, but if pitchers have any good sense they will see how well Cain’s hitting and not pitch this year, which will leave Lorenzo Cain to step in to pitch and hit.  He’s crediting his newfound success with “feeling good at the plate.”  Whoa, Keanu just blew his mind.

Delmon Young – He’s punishing pitchers this spring at a clip of .413/.429/.848 and claims that he’s in the best shape of his life, which means he’s reduced his seventy-eight percent body fat to seventy-seven.

Brandon Belt – His spring line of .382/.426/.636 has Ted Williams’s frozen head sitting up and taking notice.  Bochy said, “This is gonna make it very hard for me to bench him for a veteran that is five years past his prime, but I’m sure gonna try.”  We bet you are, Bochy!

Travis Snider – A perennial favorite of ours is smacking that pitch up!  This spring the Blue Jays are saying, “Travis is showing us everything we could hope from him–” Wait, Blue Jays?

Oh, see, this list is Spring Training stars and stats from last year.  Snider didn’t even stay on the Blue Jays for the year, Cain was injured yet again, Delmon Young had a solid season for him, which is to say it was not a solid season for anyone else who calls themselves a major league outfielder, and Belt hit 7 homers in 400+ ABs.  Yay.  Brandon Allen also had a spectacular 2012 spring training that had the A’s saying he all but had first base locked up.  Not only did he not play the majority of games for the A’s, but he wasn’t even in their platoon.  I’m not going to call out this writer (because he’s not Matthew Berry), but a prominent baseball writer said last spring, “(Brandon) Allen will determine whether the A’s are competent or unwatchable this year, but, based on this spring, Allen is likely to do his part.”  Oh-kay.  Spring Training stats are a joke.  They mean nothing.  Let me say it again for emphasis, spring stats mean nothing.  You should only be looking at who’s healthy, who’s winning position battles and who’s winning rotation spots.  The rest is meaningless.  Okay, so can I draft Gyorko now?!

177 Responses

  1. Brick Br says:
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    So…. should we draft Gyorko or what?

    • Ned Shakeshaft says:
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      @Brick Br:Oh hells yeah, I would. If I’m deep into a mixed draft and still need an MI, I’d rather take a flier on him than some replacement-level bum. And in an auction league I’d rather spend a buck on him now than throw half my FAAB at him later.

  2. Freakshow says:
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    Would you rather have:

    Miguel Cabrera (not keepable) and Rickie Weeks

    or

    Evan Longoria (keepable for 1 more year) and Brandon Phillips (not keepable)

  3. The Gig says:
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    Good stuff Grey but when can we have…..”So you like fantasy sports and sarcasm….”

    • slew says:
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      @The Gig: I believe the podcast is to begin again on Tuesday…

      • Vacation says:
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        Thank God.

  4. Ned Shakeshaft says:
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    I find your lack of faith in spring stats …disturbing.

    Right now Brandon Wood is 1 for 8 with a jack, no walks and 4 K’s. If that’s not his career in a microcosm, I don’t know what is.

  5. Piranhaman says:
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    Sean Rodriguez, iconic spring monster!

  6. Manbearpig says:
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    I have the following keepers in a 12-team NL-only league:
    Rizzo $5, Zimmerman $28, Castro $27, Segura $5, Harper $5, Eaton $5, Colvin $5, Niese $6, Chapman $6, Jansen $9

    Should I trade Segura $5 for Mike Minor $4? Would that improve my list?

    Thank you mighty Grey!

  7. Fungazi says:
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    Hah, I fell into the Delmon Young trap last year. You didn’t mention he led all players with homers too (I think). And he’s hitting behind Miggy & Fielder, he’s going to pile up huge numbers. Blah!

  8. nyydj2 says:
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    Good Morning Grey, with 16 hours left to post my 3 keepers in a H2H 6X6 with OBP and L’s. I need some confirmation, please. Shallow 12 team 22 man rosters, we get to keep 3 drafted after round 5, forever if desired with no penalties.

    Hamilton (long time 6th round keeper)
    Stanton (3rd year in my 10th slot)

    Up in the air on:
    Gio (8th Round)
    Medlen (FA pickup last year would slot 11th Round)
    Craig (FA pickup last year would slot 11th Round)

    First 7 of your Top 10 Starters are gone as keepers. Gio would probably be gone late 2nd or early 3rd, Medlen by the 4th. One guy insanely has Stras, Kershaw and Verlander, don’t ask me how that happened! Hate to keep a pitcher but the situation calls for it, I think, with Craigs injury history. With Gio seemingly in the clear, or not on the Clear, take him, or go later with Medlens upside and try to get Gio or Madbum early after grabbing corners?

    As always, thanks a ton for your time and input.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @nyydj2: I’d keep Craig… It’s a shallow league, there’s plenty of pitching, obviously since you got Medlen last year as a free agent…

  9. Padrecracker says:
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    I looked up Philbus Ebert on Wikipedia and he’s not there. I think Grey made him up….

    I don’t know what to believe in anymore, besides Francisco Liriano.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Padrecracker: Wikipedia and the Philbus Elbert family had a long-standing Hatfield and McCoy type rivalry… I’m not surprised he’s not that…

  10. Beastman says:
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    New Razzball commenter’s league needs active managers like Gyorko needs spring training hype!

    $50 buy in, e-mail me for the password.

    joshua_eastman@yahoo.com

  11. B.o.B says:
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    I have the 4th pick in a 10 team 5×5 H2H Yahoo standard league (3 OF, no MI or CI, 1 Util), with OBP instead of Avg. I do not have my 4th or 7th round picks and I’m confident the first 3 off the board will be Trout, Miggy and Braun, which then of course leaves me. So I was wondering WWGD? With no 4th, I obviously need to make the most out of my first 3 picks.

  12. KaplerforPres says:
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    Hey Grey, I gotta decide today whether or not to keep Ryan Braun, and it’s eating me up inside.

    I’m in a 12 team CBS mixed 5X5 auction league (w/ OBP instead of AVG), with 5 OF/1 C/MI/CI/UT, 9 pitchers. $260 salary cap.

    My plan is a stars/scrubs approach (shallow league, lots of end-game $1 talent), and until the latest Biogenesis report I was planning on using Braun ($51) as one of the anchors, along with Miguel Cabrera ($48) – which would be totally bad-ass. But now I’m wondering if it’s worth the risk. With league inflation, $51 for Braun is a pretty fair price, could go for more, could go for less. But with me as the reigning league champ, I’m worried that it’ll be tough to get him back in auction (target on my back, etc.).

    What do you think, is the PED thing such a minimal risk that I should just keep Braun?

    Here’s the whole keeper plan for context (the # after the salary is years left on contract):

    Ryan Braun ($51/1)
    Miguel Cabrera ($48/2)
    Jason Kipnis ($13/2)
    BJ Upton ($22/2)
    James Shields ($13/1)
    Kris Medlen ($10/2)
    Sergio Romo ($10/2)

    Other possibilities include:
    Clayton Kershaw ($38/2) – I know what you’d say about that!
    Dexter Fowler ($12/2)
    Alejandro De Aza ($6/2)
    Alcides Escobar ($6/2)
    Will Middlebrooks ($10/2)
    Marco Estrada ($10/2)
    Rafael Soriano ($10/2)

    Minor slots:
    Anthony Rizzo ($5/3)
    Dylan Bundy ($5/3)

    Outside of Braun, do you see any other problems with the keeper list? Thanks Grey, really appreciate it!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @KaplerforPres: Eh, just keep him… The rest of the list looks fine…

  13. Ryan says:
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    I could use some help. 15-team Yahoo league, keep 6. My top players: J. Upton, Longoria, Ad. Gonzalez, Craig, Zobrist, Headley, Weaver, Halladay, Bourn. Who do you keep?

    My thoughts are certainly Upton, Longoria, & Gonzo, but from there, I just don’t know. If I keep Zobrist and Craig, I give up Headley, but I already have a 3B. If I give up Craig, I already have a 1B/OF in Gonzo. If I give up Zobrist, I have no MI and lose that multi-position flexibility. Or do I keep all three and go into the draft with no SP’s? Ugh…would love people’s thoughts. Have to decide by tomorrow.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ryan: Upton, Longo, Gonzo, Zobrist, Craig…

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: I can keep 6, though…Weaver or Headley?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ugh… Guess gotta go with Weaver…

  14. Ryan says:
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    I should mention it’s a roto league and I finished t-4 last year, so I pick 10th every round (non snaking draft)

    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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      @Ryan: what grey said, those are hands down the best available for your choices… and the non-snaking draft sucks, i’d find a new league,

      • Ryan says:
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        @Jack Full of Hate: Well, it used to be a snaking draft, but the reason the league decided to go away from it was because the teams at the end of the draft (the top teams) have the best keepers already, while those that finished at the end of the pack need something in their favor to help them use the draft to move up. It’s not the end of the world…it’s a competitive league where everyone’s involved and I’ve won 2 of the last 4 years, never finishing lower than 5th all five years we’ve played.

  15. papasmurf says:
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    Hosmer and Lawrie were very good last spring too. Got me all psyched up. Lawrie hit only 1 homer (I think), which I was a little worried about. A presage of things to come I guess.

    Turns out both proved your case right.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @papasmurf: Yeah, there’s no rhyme or reason as to who does well in spring training…

      • JJ says:
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        @Grey: Homeboy shut off his comments section. total POS…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Eh, I think after a few weeks all posts get shut off to avoid spam… We do the same…

  16. Mr. Gray: Tell me you knew every player in the pitching box score this week – YOU LIAR!!!!

    You got up out of the wrong side of bed to write this nasty-gram, didn’t-cha, kiddo…

    ST is wonderful….

    (Commenters demonstrating in background.)… Hands off ST!!!!! Hands off ST!!!!! Hands off ST!!!!! Hands off ST!!!!! Hands off ST!!!!! Hands off ST!!!!!

    What are you on about anyways, with this trying to crack the heavens antidisestablishmentarianism-istic treatment of ST — in a Freeppin FBB blog. no less.. For shame!!! After all, there are limits – even for you, Mr Gray…

    On ST

    It is good time to watch young players.. Seeing who gets the innings and ABs…

    Actually, after the pitchers get stretched out, they do mean something – the final week or 2…

    Can one be bothered to separate out these stats?? Why bother most of the time as they will all play to their mean eventually… Unless perhaps, it’s Alexi Ramirez who is on fire… One who usually does not join the living until June.. Now, that should flip your ST bippy…

    Players who are sizzling in late March almost always have yuckie early Aprils. (not to say, they don’t pick it back up later)

    There are the players coming off of wrist injuries (the worst for hitters) and all other injuries too – like your fair haired boy, Middlebrook/s . He was on my wrist-watch list and he didn’t make it out of the first week…

    Crawford is an important player this spring to watch…

    Why bother – You know all this!!!..

    Back to your problems …. Go jogg’n or something – maybe read some L Ron Hubbard – before you start your daily blog… ((Is this some kind of post- player-ranking FBB Blogger depression you are dealing with??))..

    Not a good week for you at all, Razzman… You’ve already tore up and canceled one day’s blog; wrote the infamous Yahoo one and now, this well written-but-nasty ST one… Yes-siree-bob, a serious dose of Dianetics might just do the trick for ya… Just what the doctor ordered…

    Why don’t you, write a “nice” letter to Tom Cruise.. Maybe, he’ll send you back some CoS literature with an autograph… It could change your life… Wasn’t I reading yesterday in the comment section, you want to be a screen writer someday???… Maybe Tommy, can help in hooking you up after you’ve taken the Bridge to Freedom having discovered the real thetan within you…

    O well… Back to Granderson…

    Soriano… I don’t even think the Yankees are that stupid with 2 years @ a total of 32 million left on that contract… Then again, it is the Yankees… Maybe, you are right… I saw a hopeful Chicago rags news story on it . Just wishful thinking on their part, most likely..

    Chin up!!!

    And …. E S T R A D A !!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @T Moore: I’m scheduled for my L. Ron personality test later today to be administered by someone named T Noore, that wouldn’t be you would it?

      • @Grey:

        Not me!!!… They wouldn”t left me take my test in the nude when I signed up for it… So, I told them to shove it!!!…

        Good for you, though…. Anything at this point, might be a step in the right direction… I’m sure you will pass with flying colors…. Tiny steps … Tiny steps

        Hey, when your signing over your personal possessions, remember, don’t sign over the deed to Razzman Enterprises.. Rudy and the crew need the job and they might not be interested in taking the Bridge to Freedom with you…

        Good Luck!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks! I think everything is currently signed over to my acupuncturist but I’ll need to look into it…

    • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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      @T Moore: Please, blog, may I have some T Moore?

  17. Big AL says:
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    Woke up poured me a cup of coffee and opened my lap top.Checked e-mail than Razzball. I had milk in my coffee what was in yours? Ground up 15 lb petunia branches?
    Little known fact.Philbus started the first fanasty league. He drafted Babe Ruth,Lou Gerhig,Ted Williams body,and some rookie named Stan the man. After a draft like that you would be naked riding a horse too. Just bad luck he got a dirty horse.Must of been a Yin and Yang thing.
    Hey I have Gyorko circled on my top secret draft notebook strategy page right there with Estrada.It’s spring, the petunia branches are putting on weight and mock drafting is in the air.
    It’s all good Grey, It’s all good.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big AL: Ha! Philbus was a great drafter, could manage in season that well…

  18. Big AL says:
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    Almost forgot.If your punting a position which one would you punt? 2B,SS,or Catcher?

  19. AA says:
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    I’m in a 12 team 5 keeper league. I currently have Miggy, Trout, Cano, and Pujols pegged as keepers. Is it a no-brainer to trade Beltre and Cain for Verlander since I would be losing one of those two guys anyways? Our stat categories are the usual 5 hitting categories plus OPS and the usual 5 pitching plus CG’s.

    • Grey

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      @AA: Go for it…

  20. Diamondoug says:
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    Manbearpig, make that deal its a good one !!!

  21. Robert says:
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    In fairness he said the seasons of Yeonis Cespedes, Reddick , Cowgill, Jemile Weeks and Allen would determine the A’s season, but that makes the statement more meaningless and less silly because I could say the seasons of David Friese, Carlos Beltran, Pete Kozma, Daniel Descalso and Allen Craig could mean the difference between a great and mediocre season for the Cardinals.

    Better yet. If the pitching remains healthy and pitches well, and the offense continues to be near the top in most offensive categories, the Cardinals could get back to the playoffs…

    My superpower is not being able to commit to an opinion. My superhero name is Hedge.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Robert: Ha… Yeah, true…

  22. Rich says:
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    Grey two things,

    One you’re missing the point here. Spring stat’s are HIGHLY correlative of future performance. I saw a study one time that my buddy showed me from his friend’s sister that spring training errors/(Player number+errors) accounts for 97% of home run production.

    Also I think it was SCOTT Elbert that said and did those things, Philbus was his younger brother that was in an HBO pilot that was never picked up

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rich: It was with John C. Reily, right? I remember hearing about that one…

  23. Tchaikovsky08 says:
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    I enjoyed this quite a bit. Let’s not forget Jake Fox setting the world on fire a few years back.

  24. Jon says:
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    I’m all in on the Jedd Gyorko love. Some schmo in my keeper league dropped him a week ago making him eligible for the draft.

    • Grey

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      @Jon: There ya go!

  25. your best friend says:
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    if you kept both jupton and mccutch in a keeper league (where we are increasing keepers for next year), who would you pick first?

    starlin, aushizz, beltre, kinsler, hanley

    thank you many times.

  26. ryanh says:
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    Grey,

    I’ve been reading your site for a few weeks now, and I just did a mock draft at MDC using your top 400 list. The team doesn’t look bad, but the website predicted it would be dead last! By like fifty yards. Most of my drafts on that site are predicted to be top 3. I like your confidence, but dead last! Where did I screw it up? 5×5, 12 team, mixed.

    Here it is:
    C- VMart, Perez
    1- AGon, Davis
    2- Gyorko
    S- Andrus, Escobar
    3- Beltre, Frazier
    O- McCutchen, Heyward, Choo, Jennings, Ross, Myers, Morrison
    SP- Greinke, Moore, Chapman, Samardzija, Peavy, Beckett, Ryu, McCarthy, Milone
    RP- Reed, Fujikawa, Marmol

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s dead last probably because Myers and Gyorko are being given no stats… I wouldn’t swear it, the team looks solid…

    • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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      @ryanh: What website is it? If it is Yahoo pay it no mind.

      In September, Yahoo predicted my football team to go 0-14. It went 8-6 and made the four-team playoffs.

  27. Drexel Hill Dragons says:
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    While I pretty much agree with the sentiment I do think there are cases where the stats foretell things to come in the regular season. The last few seasons there have been relatively obscure players who have just mashed all Spring and then went on to have productive seasons. Michael Morse and Mark Trumbo were two such cases, where a late flier ended up paying huge dividends. Morse took a month to really start crushing a few years ago, but so did Trout last season.

    This season it’s still relatively early, but Jedd Gyorko is one case where his performance could win him a job, and considering where you should be able to draft him could be huge at a thin position.

    I follow the Phillies very closely and a few early players that have gotten my attention are Ryan Howard and Domonic Brown. Howard is now another year removed from his ankle injury and while he remarked to the press that his leg feels so much better this season, he’s been proving it at the plate. Making consistent contact and driving the ball, he too could be a bargain as he.
    Just don’t wait too long, his name alone gets him drafted before more obscure players.

    Domonic Brown was hyped as possibly the top prospect in all of baseball just a few years ago but his early inconsistent playing time and performance with the big club has been in a word, frustrating. With that said, he’s never been given every day at bats and still hasn’t logged 200 at bats in any one season. He too has been making consistent contact and also driving the ball including one towering blast over the tall batters eye in center field at Clearwater. He’s a player to watch, as if his hitting continues and his defense is at least…defensible, he could also make a nice final round selection, to just see what happens.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Let’s revisit this comment at the end of April and see where these guys stand..:

      • Drexel Hill Dragons says:
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        @Grey: Fair enough, just some early observations.

    • Robert says:
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      @Drexel Hill Dragons: DIdn’t Grey say that the only thing that makes sense is to look at whether guys are winning starting spots, the stats themselves are meaningless. Trumbo, Morse hit well? Given they did at every stop along the minors isn’t that probably more predictive than the month at the beginning of the year? I’m guessing the decision to keep them was more influenced by their body of work than by March of last year.

      • Drexel Hill Dragons says:
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        @Robert: Yes, and don’t good stats play a part in the winning of the starting spot? Also, Home Runs are a stat. Mike Morse had a pretty sketchy track record going into the 2011 season a lot of it with partial seasons in the majors. He didn’t show much power prior to the 2nd half of 2010 (his previous high in HR’s including the minors was just 17). That power continued throughout Spring Training, and then the regular season. This is just one example. Also, I would think that managers and coaches value seeing a player hitting off of (mostly) major league pitchers or top prospects with their own eyes than a minor league track record on paper.

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          @Drexel Hill Dragons: I think the point is for every guy that has a good preseason and then a good season there are 10 guys that had a good preseason and a terrible regular season. The point of the article is just because a guy has a great preseason don’t assume he is going to carry that over to the regular season. Go ahead and draft guys that had good preseason numbers…just don’t over pay for them.

  28. EnglishMetsFan says:
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    I have fallen for this ‘trick’ for three years straight now. Fool me once, etc.

    A new low.

    Can I blame it on my poor memory, or is ‘plain stupidity’ now a legitimate answer?

    Oh, watch out, Berry is Salavador Perez bandwagon…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      ESPN is a joke… They rank someone really effin’ low then say he’s a sleeper…

  29. Heinsenberg says:
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    Quick question:

    2 player keeper league. I’m keeping Mr. Triple crown, but of these 3 who gets your vote?

    Pedroia
    Adrian Gonzalez
    B. Butler

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice username… A-Gon…

  30. Racehorse says:
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    Grey,

    Rank the following three pitchers: Cobb, Gee, Doubront…

    Thanks!

  31. Vic Damone Jr. says:
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    Need to choose 5 keepers in one of my leagues. Three are no brainers, deciding between four for the other two. I get to keep em in the rounds listed. Keep going back and forth between all of them….

    IN:
    Miguel Cabrera-1
    Carlos Gonzalez-8
    Clayton Kershaw-15

    MAYBE:
    Billy Butler-9
    Madison Bumgarner-12
    Paul Goldschmidt-14
    Jason Kipnis-14

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Goldy, Butler… Assuming you have a CI spot…

  32. D Rich says:
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    Funny you talk about Gyorko, just last night i was thinking should i draft him and Domonic Brown haha. Do you think they both are worth late flyers?…dare i go Rutledge and Gyorko- Championship!!

    • Grey

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      I like Gyorko as a late round flyer, his value hasn’t changed though… Brown I don’t trust to get playing time…

  33. JB says:
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    Would you trade Holliday $57 for Rutledge $15?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  34. JB says:
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    520 cap 4×4 roto no runs 13 team league

  35. OaktownSteve says:
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    Another entry in the awesome spring injury department. Elvis Andrus out with biceps soreness caused by new tattoo.

    • Grey

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      Ha, yeah, saw that…

  36. birrrdy! says:
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    I think I ignored 2011 Mike Morse because of this column. All those homers that spring for a guy that didn’t even have a role on the team.

    2011 – 73/31/95/2/.302

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There’s always anomalies…

    • AA says:
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      @birrrdy!: The exception that proves the rule…

  37. Nathan says:
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    Just starting to plug into fantasy baseball for this year and just finished getting through all your rankings. Done a couple mocks so far and realized that based on Yahoo’s rankings vs. your rankings, it would be VERY possible and even likely to be able to go

    rd 1: Braun/McCutchen/Trout/Stanton
    rd 2: J Upton
    rd 3: Adam Jones

    That’s 3 outfielders in the first three rounds, but also 3 of your top 11. Would you do that and go into rd 4 with three outfielders? Hell, throw in the fact that I’ve been getting Goldschmidt in rd 4 and that’s FOUR top 20 hitters in the first 4 rounds.

    • Grey

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      I would not get 3 OFs in the first 4 rounds….

    • Nathan says:
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      @Nathan: And as a follow up, if you ended up getting Votto or Fielder in rd 1, would you still draft Goldschmidt in round 4?

      • Grey

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        Bit early for a corner man…

    • Chris says:
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      @Nathan:

      In a 6×6 OPS league last year, my first 3 picks were Braun-McCutch-Hamilton. They were the best players on the board at that time, so I figured what the hell, go with 3 OFs to start. It worked out awesome.

  38. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    Spring Stats + Believers in Them = Yahspnbs

    While I agree with you I wanted to bring up something we should keep an eye on in spring. Its not done by looking at numbers but following the beat writers. These are the guys that get the real inside scoop about what is really going on. From a fantasy perspective, spring stats are irrelevant, but what they do on the field matters to the managers and coaches.

    For example, there is a hitter you like and he was expected to hit in the 6 or 7 hole, but after a strong spring he moves up to the two hole and now gets to bat in front of an RBI machine. This little detail can make the difference between ownable or not.

    From the pitching side of the game I always found what a pitcher was working on to be important. He might be adding a new pitch or tweaking a delivery flaw that COULD change his stat line. The addition of a change up to a hard throwing K’s pitcher with a high ERA could make him a draftable late round flier. You will never know how the player is progressing by looking at the stat line but reading on the progress and looking at the pitch by pitch breakdown in the last week or so of spring for targeted players could give you that draft day 7th starter that turns into a strong 4.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I agree with you… A player’s role in the spring is important…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: well you sure are easy

        worst cooks or as my 5 year old calls it the worst cookers. I think some of those guys are plants, just not all of them. The black guy and the accountant for sure. Also the little blonde caretaker from LA has to be a plant. why must the food network lie to me like everyone else. I should pretend to be a bad cook and go on the show. I can where razzball shirts every episode.

        • Grey

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          I think they’re all plants except the girl that won this week… She has no personality so not a plant… The accountant is a plant and not even a good actor… Guarantee the producers are writing lines for them to say in the confessionals too… Yet, this is a great show… You watching Idol? It’s terrible this year…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: when it comes to Idol its a never have never will thing. I only started watching the Voice cause baby’s mama and razzballers were and I just wanted to keep up with the cool kids. I don’t like singing, performing or dancing reality shows. I don’t like going to bars where people are singing Karaoke so why would I want to watch it on TV. If I want to watch people dance then I can go to a strip club and watch the single moms/starving students or a night club and be the creepy guy standing in the corner staring at the college girls.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, don’t start watching Idol… It’s bad, and I’ll probably stop watching it soon… The Voice is wonderful, though I am worried without C-Lo and Xtina….

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Grey: they ended up being very disappointing this season and at the end of last. I say good ridance, They need to get rid of adam too, he is about as lame as they come

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Oh, they’re all lame, but lame in a way that makes them entertaining, where Idol is just lame…

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: I would punch Simon in the mouth. I would actually like to see Ramses beat the crap out of Simon.

                    I get tired of seeing all these “pop” artists judging these people. Christina has got some serious pipes but the rest seem talentless, Blake blows, Adam sings like a girl and Cee-Lo is one of the most over rated performers out there. if it wasn’t for Danger Mouse Cee Lo would still be obscure. If they got some serious producers out there like Rick Rubin to judge that would be fun to watch. Too bad Phil Spector is not available.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Simon was actually the only good part on Idol, now that he’s gone, none fo the judges have any personality… They’re like the woman from Worst Cooks who just won… Speaking of Spector, can’t wait to see Pacino play him… Hey, Beach Boys, hoo-ha!

                    • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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                      @Jack Full of Hate: I don’t bother with other dancing or singing shows but I have watched Idol quite a bit. The first season I watched was the Carrie Underwood one or the one before that. Simon Cowell was why I kept watching it. The best line came when some nerd sang, “Music, sweet music…” Cowell then said, “I don’t think I like music anymore.”

                      I think from 05 or 06 to 09 I saw pretty much every episode. The past few years not so much. I may have seen three episodes last season and that was only during the turd stages.

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: Hey Ronnettes, hoo-ha!

                    sorry had to copy!

                    and now with the Pacino reference I have to share on of my favorites”I kill a communist for fun, but for a green card, I gonna carve him up real nice”…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Nice! First you get the money, then you get the power, then, and only then do you get the Razzball…

  39. slew says:
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    Just read that Cubs SP Garza is likely to open the season on the DL. Does this change your tude on him or is this to be expected?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, that would change things… That’s not good…

  40. uncdrew says:
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    They keep stats in Spring Training?!? Who’da thunk it?

    To me, they’re all schmohawks until they’re on my team. Then they’re studs. Then many become duds. I’ve got this down to a science.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… You sounds like every full-blooded fantasy baseballer…

  41. Pine Tar Incident says:
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    Need to keep two: Pedroia (3rd or 4th), Reyes (3rd or 4th – both are “highest available” round keepers), Billy Butler (5th), Bossman Junior (5th), Gio (6th), or Swisher (13th)

    So keep the studs at 3 and 4? Or is Gio worth throwing back Pedroia or Reyes knowing you won’t get them back in the 4th but you’ll have a pick there (and if so, which do you throw back)? 6X6 with OPB.

    Hoping the Pod Comes back soon!!! I miss Nick (et al.)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Dustin and Reyes works for me… Pod should come back next Tuesday….

  42. scott says:
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    In a 12 team H2H league where 60 total players are keepers. Where would you guess would be the best round to reach for Gyorko to ensure I get him on my team without paying through the nose for reaching too far? Thank you kind sir!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Around 150 overall…

  43. costaricanchata says:
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    vin scully appears to be in mid-season form .
    of course , it”s early yet .

  44. costaricanchata says:
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    have noticed that all of the writers for this site have a little “+” sign after their name .
    what’s that all about ?
    did you run out of gold stars ??

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There’s supposed to be A’s before the pluses…

    • Steve says:
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      @costaricanchata: Guessing here, but I think it indicates the writer has produced more than one post on the site.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Nah, it’s a Google Plus thing… I’m not even 100% sure…

        • Steve says:
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          @Grey: Ah, yes. So it is.

  45. j-bird says:
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    AL only keeper question…

    Keep Verlander but give up 1st round pick?
    Or one of these: Vargas – round 20 or Milone – round 16 or Vicideo – round 11

    How would you rank your preference here? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Milone

      • j-bird says:
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        @Grey: Who would you take second after Milone? thanks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Verlander

  46. Bernie Brewer says:
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    @Grey (or others), have you played in a CBS prize league before? They have weekly points leagues there (which I’ve never played in, but would like to try). I wanted to see if it was a decent site, and if it was reputable, in terms of paying out to its winners (you can see I’m not lacking in confidence!).

    Any thoughts on the site? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I have not played in their prize league, but I like CBS the best for game play… I’m actually drafting a team right now in CBS…

  47. Jon says:
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    Are there any more SP sleeper posts coming? I need a couple more guys to really set my heart on and either have it crushed when they’re taken before me or jump for joy when I click “draft.” Matt Moore and Matt Harvey are prime examples of this.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… I’ll see what I can do for you…

      • Jon says:
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        @Grey: Thanks :)

  48. Bazzrall says:
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    What is YOUR prediction of major league ETA for d’Arnaud, Zunino, Gyorko, and Taveras to be?

  49. Jon says:
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    My league might be switching to a Keep 10 or Keep 12 as soon as right away (we’ve always been a keeper league, just with assigned prices and a budget). These 8 guys would be pretty much for sure for me:

    AGon, Cano, Tulo, Zimmerman, Lawrie, Stanton, Bumgarner, Zimmermann

    Assuming you agree with that, which 2 would you keep from these remaining guys? And which 4 (in case it’s 12)?

    Posey, Hosmer, Desmond, Frazier, Jennings, Victorino, Medlen, Lester, Minor, Anderson

    It’s a H2H league, 5×5, with 4 OF, CI, MI, DH, 3 bench bats, 10 SP, 5 RP. Thanks, kind sir.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Posey, Jennings, Desmond, Hosmer… In that order…

  50. Hoog says:
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    Hey Greg,

    In a 12 team h2h keeper league and need some advice. Who would you rather have as your 25th pick for the next 4 years? Middlebrooks or Frazier?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Frazier

  51. Jon says:
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    How’s your CBS draft going, by the way?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Good… Better than our NL the other day, not that that was terrible… Somehow I ended up with A-Rod…

      • Bazzrall says:
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        @Grey: Rudy

  52. royce! says:
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    Always a great post, since I need to be reminded not to get too excited about ST numbers. My brother-in-law seems to have missed the memo — he keeps sending me celebratory texts about how well the Mariners are doing. They’re like 6-1! Better get my playoff tickets now!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Philbus Elbert laughs in his general direction… But Philbus is mentally ill.

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey: If he was more mentally fit, he would have laughed in his specific direction?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Exactly! You watch the Top Chef finale? Oy.

          • royce! says:
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            @Grey: Oy?!! I haven’t watched it yet. Was out last night, so I’m going to try to watch it tonight.

            • royce! says:
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              @royce!: just finished it. Oy indeed. I kept thinking they were going to check in to see what Chef Morimoto was up to…”is that uni?” Also, do they not think I can read a clock? If the show is an hour long and they’re coming back from commercial brak at 57:00, that’s it. All of that said, I think they chose the right chef to win.

          • royce! says:
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            @Grey: (pasting this cuz i responded to the wrong comment):

            just finished it. Oy indeed. I kept thinking they were going to check in to see what Chef Morimoto was up to…”is that uni?” Also, do they not think I can read a clock? If the show is an hour long and they’re coming back from commercial brak at 57:00, that’s it. All of that said, I think they chose the right chef to win.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              There was so many problems with the finale… I thought my TiVo forgot to get the first fifteen minutes of the show when they, you know, plan the menus, choose their sous chefs, set the stage… What a mess…

    • Steve says:
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      @royce!: I’m still investigating the possibility of our little import/export arrangement, but early indications are that the cost may be prohibitive. It’s expensive to ship from a little country at the arse-end of nowhere…

      • royce! says:
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        @Steve: Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Fortunately, if Green Flash is making it out there, you’re not missing out on too much.

  53. Steve says:
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    Willie Bloomquist is hitting .538 in Spring Training. Move him up, Grey! Move him up!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      The Chief Justice!

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Silence in the court! *bangs gavel repeatedly*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          In the case of SAGNOF vs the fantasy baseballer…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: Here come da judge…here come da judge

  54. cubjet says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Trying to decide between the following for my final keeper in a dynasty auction
    Chase Headly $8
    Paul Goldschmidt $6
    Allen Craig $10

    Thanks in advance

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Goldy

  55. Boomer19 says:
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    Who would you rather have for three years? Fielder, dread or j.upton?

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Upton

  56. Hoog says:
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    Grey! Would you trade Uggla for Frazier and Hultzen? It’s a 12 team h2h keeper league. I would have frazier for up to 3 and hultzen for 4 in the 25th rd. I think it’s a good deal, but I’m starting to think that in that lineup Uggla might have a monster season. Thoughts?

    • Hoog says:
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      @Hoog: Also, I have Altuve at 2b and no 3b.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would…

  57. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    Did you Tivo Legit tonight?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Dah, I forgot…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: Its probably better to start from the first episode.

        Did you try the reading tip for the I Pad?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I read with the black page… Sooooo much better…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: glad it worked out

  58. LanceGold says:
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    Question regarding what to do with the 6th pick overall in a 12 team snake draft…we do a dynasty/holdover league, so I am bringing in Trout, McCutchen and Longoria already…..and have Sale, Darvish, and J Zimmerman heldover too….

    With the players who will be available 1-8 or so being Bruce, Tulowitzki, Reyes, Gar-Go, Cliff Lee, King Felix, Holliday, and Adrian Gonzalez….would you take another hitter at that point, or take King Felix or Cliff Lee to arm myself with a heck of a rotation?

    • I’d avoid speed guys (Reyes) but would go Car-Go or Holliday before another pitcher.

  59. choose 4 pitching keepers from this list

    shields
    darvish
    scherzer
    josh johnson
    jarrod parker
    peavy
    bauer
    bundy
    hultzen

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Darvish, Scherzer, Parker, Bundy…

  60. bluedecember11 says:
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    been reading for a long time; first comment/request. really appreciate everything you do here…

    so my primary league is an 8 team roto, standard 25 players (9 P, 5 OF, CI, MI, etc.). obviously very shallow. based on your rules about drafting hitters early–when would you say I should start drafting pitchers? i just finished a mock draft where i didn’t draft my first pitcher until round 8…and still ended up with jzimm, moore, scherzer, niese, brett anderson, samardzjia, and parker.

    my offense is pretty freakin’ amazing (let’s just say that adam jones was my third outfielder), but should i be worried about what i would have to work with at pitcher (even with lots of guys on the waiver wire)? should i be drafting even later?

    thanks.

  61. Chris says:
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    Grey,

    In a dynasty (8 teams), I can keep 12 guys on a 28 man roster. I have 3 spots that are somewhat debatable and would appreciate your thoughts…

    David Price (6th)
    Matt Moore (8th)
    Kris Medlen (25th)
    Brett Anderson (26th)
    Matt Harvey (27th)
    Jurickson Profar (28th)

    Thanks,
    Chris

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Medlen, Harvey, Profar…

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