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Red Sox made a huge splash yesterday trading away Yoan Moncada, Luis Alexander Basabe, Victor Diaz and Michael Kopech for Chris Sale.  Red Sox must be appealing to Bernie Sanders with their rotation: two lefties named Sale and Price.  Dave Dombrowski sure does love to trade away his top prospects.  Dombrowski buys 10 copies of Baseball Prospectus every year, crosses out the ‘u,’ and barters them for two cartridges of Nintendo Baseball Stars.  Dombrowski used to have four young kids, until he traded them to a Mormon family for an honors student three months from graduating high school.  Dombrowski dreams of finding the Fountain of Youth so he can trade it for a veteran fountain.  I’m not going to compare Sale to Price even if the Jew in me wants to talk wholesale.  Price had concerning stats going into last year and is older.  Of course, some of Price’s concerning stats were a lower K-rate and a falling velocity on his fastball, which are two warning signs with Sale too.  Okay, maybe I will compare the two.  Sale’s fastball velocity went from 94.5 MPH to 92.8 MPH, while relying on it 7% more of the time.  You’re a big-time Razzball noob — Razzboob? — if you think I’m going to suggest you draft an ace, and Sale is no different.  I’m not about to say he’s going to fall off, but declining velocity, K-rate and rising xFIP is not an ace I’d be excited about.  For 2017, I’ll give him the projections of 18-8/3.31/1.08/244 in 225 IP.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw this offseason for 2017 fantasy baseball:

Tyler Thornburg – Traded to the Red Sox for Travis Shaw because only the Red Sox were invited to the Winter Meetings this year.  Thornburg is under team control for three years, had a 12+ K/9 and a 2.15 ERA last year.  Next week, JB and I are going to do a Winter Meetings recap podcast, so I’ll be interested in hearing what our resident Brewers fan, JB, thinks of this trade.  What I think of it?  The rich teams are supposed to do terrible deals for overpriced free agents or veterans that have only a few years left in their awful, bloated contracts while the poor teams are supposed to get back players under team control that look like future All-Stars, not the other way around.  Damn, the Brewers got had.  Only thing worse would’ve been if the Brewers also took Sandoval off the Sawx’ hands and seated him next to the life-sized kielbasa from the Sausage Races just to see him sweat.  Thornburg is a possible $12 Salad if Kimbrel gets hurt, Travis Shaw is a platoon player that looks replaceable by players already on the Brewers.  What in the name of Harvey Kuenn are the Brewers doing?  For 2017, I’ll give Thornburg the projections of 4-1/2.77/1.03/82, 6 saves in 64 IP.

Mitch Moreland – Signed with the Red Sox to play 1st.  Last season’s Sawx 1st baseman Hanley phoned in to reporters, “I’m bummed I won’t get to play first in 2017.” As he said that, he touched one foot against his couch and reached for the remote his daughter tossed him.  Unfortunately, Hanley pulled his foot off the couch, collapsed to the ground and lost his sofa spot to the family dog.  I think Moreland can be one of those signing that doesn’t trend on Twitter and pretty much is forgotten about by most, but can actually have huge fantasy repercussions.  Moreland is slated to bat fifth for at least 80% of the time, and will find out he enjoys hitting balls around the Pesky Pole in right.  For 2017, I’ll give him 61/25/75/.259/1 in 465 ABs with a chance for more(land).

Travis Shaw – As mentioned above, went the over way to the Brewers.  Brewers have serious problems locking down a 3rd baseman, huh?  I’m not counting Villar, who was always more of a middle infielder. Casey McGehee and Aramis manned the hot corner dating back about six years; an era that butted its ass into Bill “Mother’s Day Ain’t Just For Mothers” Hall.  The Brewers even recently considered another Red Sox cast-off, Will Middlebrooks.  Better results to come with Shaw?  Pshaw, as a scoffer might say. Miller Park is a good stadium, but it’s not like Fenway is miserable, and Shaw hit .242 with 16 homers in 145 games last year.  For 2017, I’ll give him 51/18/64/.247/3 in 435 ABs.

Yoan Moncada – Acquired by the White Sox.  Chicago is acquiring prospects like NBC is acquiring Chicago shows.  Have you seen recently that Dick Wolf has like four Chicago shows on NBC?  Chicago Fire, PD, Med, Justice!  Waiting for Chicago Pizza which can have crossovers with Chicago Med when people have heart attacks after a slice of pizza.  Make it happen, Wolf!  I already gave you my Yoan Moncada fantasy.  More or less stays the same, only find/replace Red with White.  There, I gave him the projections of 77/12/79/.247/27 in 504 ABs.  Now, he likely has a better chance of getting those 504 ABs, especially when Todd Frazier is moved.  For now, I’m keeping Moncada’s projections the same, and will adjust if Frazier remains.

Wilson Ramos – Signed with the Rays.  I’m told in no way are the Red Sox involved with this Winter Meetings deal, but you never know.  Ramos is recovering from an ACL tore, the 2nd one he’s endured.  That’s one injury stamp card you probably don’t want to fill up as a catcher.  I couldn’t see a concrete timetable — where’s Stonehenge when you need it? — for Ramos’ return, but I’d guess June.  For 2017, his projections are 31/13/41/.274 in 305 ABs.

Carlos Gomez – Re-signed with the Rangers, though it might be more accurate to say the Rangers were resigned to re-sign Gomez.  Or maybe re-sighed.  CarGomez did have his best month last September (6 HRs, .326), and was solid with the Rangers overall (8 HRs, 5 SBs, .284 in 33 games), so it comes down to what Gomez you believe.  The one that looked like a shell of his former self, or the one that broke out of his shell and was turtley awesome.  I’m more in the former camp.  For 2017, I’ll give him the projections of 73/17/57/.238/24 in 521 ABs.

Fernando Rodney – Signed with the Diamondbacks.  There’s said to be a lot of performance-based incentives in the contract like “will pitch so terribly that our fans forget about Shelby Miller,” “will close at least one game with his hat totally crooked,” and “won’t pitch like Fernando Rodney.”  For 2017, I’ll give him the projections of 2-5/3.88/1.41/68, 22 saves in 65 IP.

 
  1. Viz

    Viz says:
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    Kimbrel still is on Boston, right? Should that be 40 holds for Thornburg or do you really think Thornburg closes?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Viz: Oops, brain fart

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: I think you were foreseeing what is coming. Kimbrel will go down again. He’s got a lot of mileage on that arm

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, he will, but isn’t yet, was my bad

  2. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!!

    Great write-up!!

    a. Wow, Sale. He should do better in Fenway (versus US Cellular) unless RH batters double him to death off the Green monster, right?

    b. I get that Ramos was better after the lasix surgery etc., But I don’t get this trade unless they got at a reduced rate with his current injury timetable and his injury history!

    c. The juice continues this morning. No news since yesterday.

    d. Got a clean bill of health from the health authorities in Croatia. When I went home in November I took a battery of blood sample tests as well as urine and stool sample tests. All clear of parasites!! Passed my urine test! That’s the news of the day.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Ante GALIC:
      B. Ramos was signed as a free agent by the Rays..No trade

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: A. Yeah, didn’t work out for Price, but Trop isn’t Cellular B. Signing C. Ha D. Awesome!

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Grey!

        a. Sorry, signing. My bad! So kind of like a lottery pick. So, Psycho killer until June and then Ramos for the final 4 months, right? Should be good, that frankencatcher could hit 20 HRs.

        b. Yeah, on the juicy case…My staff member has turned to the local Islamic council to handle the judgement on the case. Chad has a weird judicial system, one that lacks in many cases hard evidence. No CSI unit even basic stuff like ABO blood typing would be like science fiction for them. For example…

        1. A refugee woman was allowed to cultivate a parcel of land of a local Chadian man. She sought out his permission to supplement her single-household family monthly ration which is really small (they receive 0.32 pounds of sorghum flour per person per month – somehow they make it last for about 10 days, but most of us would eat it in 2 days).

        2. Another Chadian man’s camel died on her particular parcel of land.

        3. That Chadian man demanded compensation for the loss of his camel.

        4. As a result, the refugee woman was ordered to pay the equivalent of 300,000$ US(!!!) for the loss of this guy’s camel. Apparently the camel was headed for greatness as his seed was going to be used to father a world-class camel racer in the UAE.

        ….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_racing……

        5. As a result she remains in prison. We’re doing everything to get her released from prison and get the fine reduced to something symbolic like 100$ or something.

        The system is broken and when the ‘normal’ procedure can’t fix the problem then they turn to the religious leaders and finally to the elders to resolve the issue. The decision of the religious leaders or elders if unanimous is also legally-binding and could result in an exorbitant fine (from which an administrative fee is extracted for their services). Complicated.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

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          A. No worries, it’s not a bad signing for Rays, they have no ability to sign anything, so they take a bunch of flyers like Ramos, hoping it works B. This is the craziest thing I’ve heard in a while… $300,000!

          • Ante GALIC says:
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            @Grey: Grey!

            Yup, 300,000$ US!! That’s the same penalty for a boy getting a girl pregnant – 300,000$ US! Don’t know how they came up with the figure. Teenagers having sex, condom breaks or no condom….teen pregnancy is never easy anywhere let alone Africa.

            Cheers,
            Ante

            • Grey

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              How much would, say, a new house be?

              • Ante GALIC says:
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                @Grey: Grey!!

                A new house could be had for a ham sandwich!! under 30,000 for like a 2-bedroom brick house with a toilet and electrical fixtures and connection to sewage, including parts and labor. Water delivery is a problem for all. It comes in a truck in the morning around 06h00.

                Cheers,
                Ante

                • Grey

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                  Damn, I’m about to move there and get myself a $60,000 mansion

                  • Ante GALIC says:
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                    @Grey: Grey!!

                    I’ll reserve a plot for you, that could also be had for a song. Trouble is there’s no way to generate any income here unless you:

                    a. kill someone and take their money;
                    b. let some innocent boy rape your adolescent daughter;
                    c. have your camel graze on someone’s land and then inject it with poison allowing to it peacefully die on that person’s land!!

                    There is possibility of growing millet and selling it in Europe but you’d have to grow a lot to realize a reasonable profit for the effort. Also, the land is really poor quality, to wit too poor (nutrient-wise) to grow corn!!!

                    On second thought, better invest on something else like a known commodity. Like betting on the Twins or Brewers not making the playoffs. Watch them both qualify in 2017!!! The Ante anti-jinx (JB can thank me later)!

                    Cheers,
                    Ante

                    • Grey

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                      Sounds like a thriving economy! Especially with the B option

  3. Bye Felica says:
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    I can’t believe the White Sux didn’t get a top position player for Sale. I would have asked for Xander or hell at least get JBJ tossed in the deal.

    • @Bye Felica: By consensus, Yoan Moncada is the most coveted prospect in baseball–he oozes power/speed potential–and, to boot, a position player. (Grey predicted Moncada would bat .247 in his first full season; not .247 for his career.) Isn’t Moncada precisely the kind of player a team should want for a semi-declining veteran?

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        @FANTHEAD:
        Plenty of top prospects have failed big time over the years, Brandon Wood, Billy Ashely Brien Taylor, to name a few. I agree with Felicia, I would have wanted JBJ at least included in this deal..

    • Grey

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      @Bye Felica: They got the #1 prospect in baseball, which could be great or whatever, but they got a decent return… If you’re going young, can’t do better than #1 prospect

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Grey: There was an interesting point made on Boston Talk Radio this morning regarding the trade, and it dovetails nicely into your point on velo etc. The asking price on Sale was Moncada, Benintendi, and an MLB position guy under team control (JBJ was the rumor) or Moncada/Benintendi and Betts.

        Do you think the White Sox know something about Sale’s medical or whtever? Or do you think they were just positioning themselves with an obvious no on the asking price in order get the best deal possible? I lean the later, but it’s interesting to ponder.

        • Grey

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          I’d say it’s prolly the latter too… There’s red flags with Sale, but he is younger than Price, which makes a big difference with arms… I think he’ll be relatively awesome this year

      • @Grey: 1. I agree, Grey. Chasing the #1 prospect in baseball is a smart enough strategy–even if it doesn’t always succeed. 2. Yes, Malicious some top prospects don’t pan out–no argument there. But to name a handful of players as if to suggest that failure is inevitable for top prospects is…cherry-picking that does not persuade. I could just as easily name some players who matched or exceeded their prospect-hype. I could also name some great veteran pitchers who, on being traded, suddenly declined and/or developed arm trouble. And you could name some who didn’t break down. Baseball happens….

        • Grey

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          Yup, agreed

        • Bye Felica says:
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          @FANTHEAD: I’m just saying. Max ROI was guaranteed last year before they were eliminated and they did this entire charade about Sale being untouchable. I guarantee after the SAux were eliminated they told Chicago “The price just went way down” I think last year was the time to strike. Idk.. Just tings that make me go hmmm. I think they could have gotten JBJ added to that package.

      • Bye Felica says:
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        @Grey: I’m not in disagreement. Just think they screwed themselves waiting till the off season. I thought Sale was “Untouchable” HAHAHAHA

        • Grey

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          Ha!

  4. Bye Felica says:
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    Also the Yanks will most likely give Aroldis $120 million and the Cubs only paid Jose Solar for Wade Davis lol

    I don’t see Chicago paying that kind of money for Chapman.

    • Grey

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      @Bye Felica: Davis had arm troubles last year

      • Bye Felica says:
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        @Grey: I know but I’m just talking comps. $120 million for a closer is crazy talk imo

        So I know you have to hate it

  5. Ralph Lifshitz

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    Miller plays better than Fenway for lefty power, I’m wondering if Shaw could maybe find his way into a few more homers.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Grey: Yes 100% he’s a natural 1st baseman and was moved to 3rd. His splits vs LHP flipped last year after crushing lefties in 2015 during that torrid stretch. He could factor into the first base platoon too. That said I’m not a fan of Shaw.

        • Grey

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          I picture him falling somewhere between Moreland and Healy as far as corner men… Likely not awful, but 12-team guy? Seems unlikely

          • Ralph Lifshitz

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            @Grey: I like those two better I think, but the Brewers stink and he should play. Haha

            • Grey

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              Plus, Miller doesn’t hurt… Overall, it’s not Yonder Alonso, but, kinda, bleh

              • Ralph Lifshitz

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                @Grey: You want a good laugh, there’s a segment of homers that refer to him as “The Mayor of Ding-Dong City” I’m hoping it’s in jest, but I’m not sure it is.

                • Grey

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                  Then I’m guessing it’s a monarchy and mayor is a strictly hononary title

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Grey: I don’t know Mayor McCheese was totally the elitist of the Mickey D’s gang. His glasses were on a chain for Christ sake.

                    • Grey

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                      Dude, McCheese was old, he didn’t want to lose his bifocals!

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    Probably the 100th guy to say this already (despite only a handful of posts somehow), but hey we dont read each others posts. Some guy called Kimbrell is still on the Bo Sox though he’ll be the one saving 40 and Thorny will just be a good set up guy. But hey we all allowed a brain fart in the offseason, you still rock.

  7. Jack Straw says:
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    What I haven’t seen in any of the articles about the Red Sox’s trades yesterday is that Milwaukee got the best hitter and a good fielder last season in Boston’s minor league system, Mauricio Dubon. Yup, better than Moncada and Benintendi at the plate for average.

    Don’t believe me, look it up.

    He was neither a first round pick nor a $60 million dollar signing so he wasn’t headline news.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jack Straw: Oh, yeah, he was in the deal too

  8. Swfcdan says:
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    You still high on AJ Reed long term despite his pretty awful audition last year? Looking at him or Cody Bellinger in prospect trade discussions, who would you rather have in a keeper.

    • Grey

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      @Swfcdan: Prolly go Bellinger long term

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Swfcdan: bellinger. He’s probably going to have dual eligibility, OF 1B

  9. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    This is very dependent on where he goes in drafts, but what do you think about targeting Carlos Gomez late-ish in 12 team drafts akin to Ian Desmond last year?

    Like March 2016 Desmond, I feel like the hate for Gomez overshadows the potential value / bounceback there. I got Desmond last year for $8 and feel like I could do roughly the same with Gomez this year…

    • Grey

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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Yeah, I could see that comparison… Desmond always drove the ball farther, but both struggled with contact and have power/speed

  10. danny almonte says:
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    Wheres Hanley playing in ’17? DH? Im guessing his days with OF eligibility are history?

  11. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    In a keep forever @ $3 inflation league, do you like $19 Frazier or $6 Khris? (12 team roto)

    Thanks!

  12. Claw Dawg says:
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    Looks like the White Sox view Moncada as a 2B which at least is solid for his value

  13. Big Odio says:
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    Is it me or does the Davis for Soler deal feel like the Royals got taken for a ride?

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      @Big Odio:
      Davis is a free agent aftyer 2017 and I am sure the Royals feel like Soler still has not been at his best yet..But yeah the Royals kinda got screwed!

      • Tweak says:
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        @Malicious Phenoms: I’m not so sure that the Royals really got screwed. I know Soler has burned some people, but in a new environment, he could thrive. Also, he rocketed through the Cubs’ system (something some people forget) and is still only 24 years old. Plenty of room to grow at that age and he’s already considered a power threat. I could see a 2016 Khris Davis kind of year coming up soon. For that upside, they moved their 31 year old closer who has a year left on his contract.

        They have plenty of good arms in their pen: Herrera, Strahm, Almonte. Combine that with a possible Cain-for-a-starter trade (to St Louis maybe?) and Kennedy, Duffy, Ventura plus Zimmer in the rotation? Solid enough on paper to me.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Tweak: You said Zimmer! He got hurt just reading this comment.

          Sorry, I love making Kyle Zimmer jokes, forgive me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big Odio: Davis had arm problems last year and agree with MP

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big Odio: Except about Royals getting screwed

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: I’ve fallen out of love with soler. He’s got power and nothing more. Maybe the royals fix all his holes but that’s wishful thinking. Considering what top end closer have gone for this one feels like maybe both sides are chuckling at each other. But in the reals I don’t like Soler. Makes me wonder what we’re missing about him. Is it approach? Work ethic? Latijo?

        • Grey

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          Soler is too young to write off

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: same could be said about you but people still read this

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I don’t follow

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Grey: I was razzing you…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Still don’t get it

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Grey: I think he just challenged you to a write-off.

                    • Grey

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                      Haha

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      @Ralph Lifshitz: you know I would lose that..now on the other hand a dance off? I think I could totally take him in the battle of the feet

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Grey: people have written you off because you are not the typical boring ass fantasy nerd and instead inject humor as a way to make fantasy fun…and you look crazy young, like a in a few years you could be mistaken for my son

                    • Grey

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                      Ah, yeah

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      perfect chance to fuptcha me, so fuptcha you

        • M says:
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          @Big Odio: KC can now trade Cain (probably to Stl)

          • Big Odio says:
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            @M: or LA

          • Squat Cobblers says:
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            @M: Cain will be 32 in April. One season with > 502 ABs…Not sure my Cards want him. I’d go Kiermaier/Eaton/Fowler then Cain.

  14. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Speaking of Desmond . . . Desmond to COORS!

    • Grey

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      Wow, great landing spot!

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: You said it. The guys in my keeper league who have him ($9) also have Dahl ($10). Trying to trade for both!

        Below are my high value keepers. To get the Dahl/Desmond pair, what sort of offer would you recommend proposing? I don’t want to be too overzealous, but he’s going to kill it in Coors.

        Rizzo ($33)
        Betts ($28)
        Kershaw ($30)
        Story ($11 – wouldn’t want to move him for this)
        Moncada ($3)
        Khris ($6)
        Ozuna ($4)
        Schoop ($5)
        Judge ($3)
        Franco ($11)

        • Grey

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          Anyone Davis down, a few of them would work (all of them?)

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Wow, 5 yrs with option for 6 too.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Awful real life deal

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: Totally. But great for fantasy!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha, yup!

  15. mikeMaher

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    Haha. Great stuff, Grey.

    • Grey

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      Thanks!

  16. Big Odio says:
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    That’s a damn good deal for the rockies. I hope they move cargo to 1st and put parra where he belongs…as a 4th outfielder. With Bud Black coming in, who I have a lot of respect for, we could see them being a real contender in the west. So weird, the get rid of Weiss and immediately get smarter

    • mikeMaher

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      @Big Odio:

      Early news is that they are moving Desmond to first.

      • Grey

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        I like it!

      • Big Odio says:
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        @mikeMaher: I’ll believe it when I see it. He played a solid OF last year and with cargos history you would think they would want to protect him.

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @Big Odio: Desmond is an infielder though. Probably more of a natural move.

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: who played a good outfielder

            • Ralph Lifshitz

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              @Big Odio: He makes a mean Cuban sandwich too. I’ve been to his house. Uses Serrano jamon as the pressed ham, it’s delicious.

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Ralph Lifshitz: stop it. You’re making me hungry

    • Grey

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      It’s a pretty awful real world deal

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: why?

        • Grey

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          I can’t tell if you’re serious… Terrible deal for real life baseball

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: am I?

  17. Nice work.
    I get the questions about Sale. I was one of the first doubters.
    Remember “He throws like a giraffe runs?”
    I was wrong. I’m done worrying about him.
    He was the best pitcher in the AL.
    Sawx had a legitimate chance to play CHC with a Sale.

    Thorny is more of a surprise move, I agree.

    Breakfast Stouts are good food.

    • Grey

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      Thanks! What do you think of the Desmond move?

      • M says:
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        @Grey: gotta be a value boost for Desmond, maybe he jumps to .260, 30 homers, still bleh obp

        • Grey

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          Agreed

        • Grey

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          .267 career average guy, btw

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @M: @Grey: I feel like Desmond could flirt with .280/.290 in Coors. Story was tracking for .270-.280 until his injury, and his contact issues are a lot more pronounced (though Story crushes anything he touches like Negan with Lucille [when not monologueing] – 85% hard or med contact).

            • Grey

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              Coors should boost his average, anywhere from .270 to .290, best guess, but average is fluky

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Wake Up: I once had a breakfast stout called bacon and eggs at pizza port…yummy

  18. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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    Feel like Ramos is part of Bring da Pain lyrics. “I’ll f*cking, I’ll f*cking sew your knee ligaments together, and make you crouch for 9 innings 5 days a week”….*cue spit slurp sound

    • Grey

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      HA…Nice… How long does it take to get my new kicks?

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Grey: Depends on the seller, that guy seemed pretty legit. You should be getting a random tracking update soon. Actually surprised he didn’t ship them yesterday.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Oh snap! I did! Estimated delivery 12/8-12/12 — woohoo!

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            @Grey: Ha, good stuff. Hope this makes you turn back into a sneakerhead! I’m trying to get a pair of Kangaroos and Stihl collab (weird) this Friday night when they drop. I promised I would take a break until after my vacation if I’m able to grab them.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Link please

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Haha… Damn, I like those too… I just bought Asics inspired by The Seventh Seal the Ingmar Bergman movie… Not even joking…

                  • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                    @Grey: Yeah those Roos are sick. Quality is unheard of for sneakers. Stupid expensive though.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Wait, I followed the ‘to purchase’ link and it looked like they were only $89

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh, damn, that is steep… Okay, I like this other Saturday ones better anyway

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      I’ve heard Kangaroos are great though. Remember those “Jelly” ones I posted? My thinking is spending that much on one shoe is going to have to make me stop for a while, haha.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I feel the pangs of regret after buying one pair for $200… I can’t keep up… I have a Cougar bird whispering in my ear to chillax

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      I literally only buy food, cat medicine (don’t ask), and shoes. I do need to chill though, my wallet is noticeably lighter.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Same here but switch cat with dog… and shoes with one pair… though, lots of food

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, those joints! Got em yesterday… I love Ingmar Bergman’s films, if you haven’t seen any, I’d suggest Fanny & Alexander… Those Adidas look a little like the old school Huraches, member those?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Those are so badass, and the model is wearing my track pants!

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      I made a shady back alley deal for those. Noticed guy on eBay was from Pittsburgh, so met him and paid $30 less. He’s a cheat who uses bots and proxy’s to buy all the shoes when they release and then hikes the price sky high.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Would’ve loved to been a fly on the wall for a black market sneaker deal

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @SheriffMcRawDawg: never….I may decide to work for grey again to spite you

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

                      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                      @SheriffMcRawDawg: I second getting rid of him.

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      but you’ll still text me every day Ralph and call me loaded every couple of months. So you don’t want me on the podcast next week?

                      Now Raw Dog wants me back? Then I cant

  19. zombie says:
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    Desmond to the Rockies to play 1B. Didn’t see that one coming. Big value boost? Coors much >Tex??

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, for sure… I’ll go over it tomorrow, but, yeah, value boost

  20. Spyre says:
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    Hey Gray!

    I didn’t get the Chris Carter / Thames swap either. As a Toronto fan, I saw the AAAA Thames first hand. Combine that with trading Thornburg, what the heck are the Brewers thinking? Even I can do a better job as GM. I won my fantasy league 2 years ago so I obviously got the

    Anyway who are your 6 keepers from this lot? Rounds 1-6, can keep anyone forever.

    Trout
    Arenado
    Rizzo

    F. Lindor
    Trea Turner (?)

    Bautista (ugh)
    Cutch (ugh)
    Danny Salazar
    Danny Duffy

    I don’t like either Danny an “ace”, but there won’t be any better pitchers on the board by round 6, cuz all top pitchers are kept…. SP is highly valued in my h2h (Scherzer had most league points last year). I’m worried if I don’t keep 1, my rotation will be even worse this year than last.

    Thanks as always! I’m impressed you keep this up year round, it definitely fills that baseball void in my life during the offseason.

    PS sorry bout commenting on the last post, I opened both at once and didn’t realize this one was newer.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No worries, just easier if I’m on my ‘puter to answer on one post…. Trout, Arenado, Rizzo, Lindor, Turner, Cutch… Obviously last one is a tossup, could see Salazar if his health is fine in spring

      • Spyre says:
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        @Grey: Thats basically what I was thinking, except duffy vs salazar in spring….

        our league has an interesting option in that you can “jump in” during draft, and choose someone outside your protected list. Like say nobody kept Roughned Odor, then in round 5 I could jump in and draft him. But then my keepers from rounds 5-6 become unprotected. makes the draft an exciting/messy time (we’re all friends and draft IRL in someone’s living room). Maybe in rd 6, there will be an interesting outside the box option haha.

        Thanks again!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem, yeah, I could someone besides Cutch (or Salazar) becoming more worthwhile

  21. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey,

    I give up Gurriel and get A Gon. Make the deal?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds fine

  22. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Ok grey I’m signing off on it

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cool

  23. Green monstahh says:
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    Hey grey love your insight! lol it’s only December but I’m amped up for fantasy baseball 2017

    I’m the commissioner in my league I just opened my league up & went to settings for scoring & noticed you can do points for fielding. Have you ever done points for fielding? Here are the categories: fielding chances, put outs, assists, outfield assists, errors, double play turned. If I do add a fielding scoring maybe just one category if I do.

    Next since its always the same group of guys we are all friends we tend to pick similar players each season thinking of adding keepers to this league. I was going to go with one but might do two so if league mate wants one SP & one bat by all means they can do that or if they want two bats or two SPs by all means

    That being said I put it in for 2 keepers for 2017 but if people just want 1 then it’ll be 1 lol.

    If I keep at 2 who would you keep if you see me: here’s my team

    C: Gary Sanchez (also eligible at DH)

    1b: Rizzo

    2b: treat Turner (also eligible at OF)

    3b: Kyle Seaver

    SS: Xander bogartes

    IF: maikel Franco

    OF: Harper
    OF: trumbo (1b/OF/DH)
    OF: benintendi
    OF: melky cabrera

    DH: Napoli (DH/1B)

    Utility: Jackie Bradley jr

    Bench: odor, Manuel Margot

    SP: price
    SP: syndergaard
    SP: kershaw
    SP: colon
    SP: Archie Bradley
    SP: Sean mannea

    RP: alex Reyes

    Keeper settings would be ESPN standard settings if we keep 2 then rounds 1 & 2 for keepers then round 3 starts snake . It’s h2h pts

    Thanks grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo, Harper…. Or Harper and Kershaw if 1 and 1… I don’t do leagues with fielding, I prefer standard 5×5 leagues… Old school is challenging enough… If I were to add something else it would be OBP and Holds

  24. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Had to continue, here!

    Yes, booming economy. Essentially, what happens is:

    1. The boy takes off for somewhere anywhere – either in-country or across the border into Sudan (we are 30 miles from the official border with Sudan, but the unofficial border is even closer).
    2. Frank Voila, right?

    3. Wrong.

    4. The justice system takes the boy’s parents into custody and levies his fine onto them.

    5. Of course they can’t pay so they remain in prison until they die. Not a bad trade off, they die in prison and their son gets to live and tell about it.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Jesus, that’s awful… imagine you can’t buy any of these services on eBay

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Grey!

        Sad, but it all goes back to the necessity of the virgin producing the ‘virgin blood’ on the white bed sheet on wedding night. This bed sheet is taken around to show everyone that:

        1. the bride was indeed a virgin;
        2. that the marriage was consummated.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          A mint could be made selling black market virgin blood!

  25. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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    My sneaker problem has ruined today’s thread.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, not at all, I’m enjoying it!

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: your sneaker problem is nothing in comparison to my contrary for contrarys sake attitude. Keep up fueling the boyhood dreams of sweet kicks

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not a huge fan of those, I like a bit more color on my kicks…Says the guy that just bought black sneaks… Diadora are kinda bomb though, no matter what

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            @Grey: Diadora are the best quality shoe I own, most expensive though too.

            Yeah I almost didn’t say anything about the Seventh Seals because of your style. I’ve had them for months but your write up was perfect.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, I kinda just like the idea that I have sneakers inspired by Ingmar Bergman

  26. Gigorilla says:
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    The Ramos timetable comment is solid.

    Another day, another move for the Boy Wonder in Brewtown. At least we’re getting numbers.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks!

  27. Desmond to Coors…what’s not to like?

    I could see an Eaton-esque jump in defensive value too, if they decide to move him to RF.

    This is very exciting for my defensive metric league called “18.44 Meters.”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA, nice

  28. Chingon!

    I had that at Pizza Port one time…right after I had a delicious freshly brewed Mate at the Yellow Deli that was served with a little slice of crazy on the side. Definitely ask for it on the side.

    • Big Odio says:
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      @Wake Up: loco en el lado…..got it!

  29. Big Odio says:
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    That Eaton trade is nuts. Ralph is going to flip his shit *grabs popcorn in anticipation*

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Why is Ralph going to be bothered by it?

      • @Grey: Speaking of Ralph and Eaton nuts…how bout that Benintendi kid, amiright?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… Less nut Eaton now, likely

        • Ralph Lifshitz

          Ralph Lifshitz says:
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          @Wake Up: Haha! Well done

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: Giolito was his pitching Beni…actually he gives Ralph a beni…hahaha see what i did there?! you see?! you see?!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t get it… How about he gives him a Bendi?

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: beni = boner…..Hey grandpa its called s-l-a-n-g

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Right

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Grey: dont hate the slang cause you hate the player

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Big Odio: @Grey: Yeah it’s a crazy deal that’s a lot of prospects for Eaton. Then again he’s got a great deal more value in real life. Halp alerted me that his contract is also super team friendly.

        • Grey

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          Eaton’s just so bleh for fantasy, but he’s not quite that awful in real life if he continues to get 600 ABs

          • Ralph Lifshitz

            Ralph Lifshitz says:
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            @Grey: I guess it’s the defense or whatever. I don’t really get it, but he’s one of those WAR guys. He’s super blah though you are correct.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup, totes agreed

              • Ralph Lifshitz

                Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                @Grey: Rizzo just did a presser and claimed it was Eaton’s flexibility. He said he’s so flexible, he even saw him get his whole leg behind his head.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Damn, I wonder how much he’d give for my pilates instructor

            • M says:
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              @Ralph Lifshitz: Eaton was worth 6 fWar in 2016, don’t know the difference between WAR and fWAR haha

              • Big Odio says:
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                @M: I know what the f stands for in my book

  30. Chicken Dinner says:
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    Can’t believe what the Nats gave up for Eaton. White Sox themselves a future after this weeks action.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Terrible Nats deal

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: with that deal I’m surprised they didn’t give up Turner, Giolito, + Lopez etc for Sale!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: also, would you want Eaton or Cutch for those prospects?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Cutch

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: exactly!

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: or they could have gotten Blackmon and pieces probably

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Totally!

  31. Jp says:
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    Over reaction to missing on Sale? Trying to hard to make a splash at the winter meetings at home. Great deal for the Sox I agree Grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not sure, maybe…Sale or Eaton feels like apples/oranges, but it could be a psychological overreaction

  32. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    In a 12 team, foto, keep 7 forever (+$3 inflation) league . . .

    Via 2 trades lined up I can trade my $30 Kershaw FOR $10 JD Mart, $23 Blackmon, and $19 Strasburg. (Kersh for degrom and jdm, degrom for Blackmon Strasburg)

    What do you think?

    That would leave me with keepers of: Betts, Rizzo, JD, Blackmon, Story, Moncada, and one of Khris, Strasburg (with over 100 days to consolidate down to 7 before the keeper deadline).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I like it!

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: thanks! I’ve never actually owned/played Kershaw for more than 20 IP (traded for him on the cheap last year when he got injured), but this seems like a pretty best case scenario haul, right?

  33. J-Dawg says:
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    Sorry if this was already asked… was your Sexy ‘Spects reference at all in any way an homage to my main man Richard Golden, aka Sexy Specs, of D.O.C. fame?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn40aa_SA6Y

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