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		<title>By: chata</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1018231</link>
		<dc:creator>chata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 07:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1018189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: 

started a forum thread .
can you do any better ?
are you sweet  &quot;genius&quot;  ??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1018189" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: </p>
<p>started a forum thread .<br />
can you do any better ?<br />
are you sweet  &#8220;genius&#8221;  ??</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 06:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1018183&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;: Yup... Absolutely buckled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1018183" rel="nofollow">Steve</a>: Yup&#8230; Absolutely buckled.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 06:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Grey: Against Wainwright wasn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Grey: Against Wainwright wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1018178</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 06:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017659&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;royce!&lt;/a&gt;: All I remember from that is Beltran buckling.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017663&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chata&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;ll take the under.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017659" rel="nofollow">royce!</a>: All I remember from that is Beltran buckling.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017663" rel="nofollow">chata</a>: I&#8217;ll take the under.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1017835</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017829&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;royce!&lt;/a&gt;: Ah, simpler times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017829" rel="nofollow">royce!</a>: Ah, simpler times.</p>
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		<title>By: royce!</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1017829</link>
		<dc:creator>royce!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017717&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks! 

I had unfortunately not discovered golf yet. Living without a car in Manhattan would&#039;ve made golf a little difficult anyway. I had discovered drinking, though! And air hockey! A buddy was part-owner of a bar in the Lower East Side that had an air hockey table, so I got really good at air hockey. And drinking. God Bless the Subway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017717" rel="nofollow">Steve</a>: Thanks! </p>
<p>I had unfortunately not discovered golf yet. Living without a car in Manhattan would&#8217;ve made golf a little difficult anyway. I had discovered drinking, though! And air hockey! A buddy was part-owner of a bar in the Lower East Side that had an air hockey table, so I got really good at air hockey. And drinking. God Bless the Subway.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017659&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;royce!&lt;/a&gt;: Great story. Isn&#039;t unemployment grand? I always played my best golf when I was &#039;between jobs&#039;.

On a side note - ABC reporting that all 8 of Sandusky&#039;s alleged victims are going to testify against him at the preliminary hearing next week (despite what his lawyer has been saying).

On another side note. Rosenthal just tweeted that Bill Hall has lost 15 pounds, though left out the all-important &quot;he&#039;s in the best shape of his life&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017659" rel="nofollow">royce!</a>: Great story. Isn&#8217;t unemployment grand? I always played my best golf when I was &#8216;between jobs&#8217;.</p>
<p>On a side note &#8211; ABC reporting that all 8 of Sandusky&#8217;s alleged victims are going to testify against him at the preliminary hearing next week (despite what his lawyer has been saying).</p>
<p>On another side note. Rosenthal just tweeted that Bill Hall has lost 15 pounds, though left out the all-important &#8220;he&#8217;s in the best shape of his life&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reyes in Florida basically solidifies the NL EAST belongs to the Marlins]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reyes in Florida basically solidifies the NL EAST belongs to the Marlins</p>
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		<title>By: chata</title>
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		<dc:creator>chata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 02:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017402&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: 

if the O &#039;s sign prince .... my guess is that he hits 47 home runs this year .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017402" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: </p>
<p>if the O &#8216;s sign prince &#8230;. my guess is that he hits 47 home runs this year .</p>
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		<title>By: royce!</title>
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		<dc:creator>royce!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sad to see Reyes leave the Mets (though based on the team&#039;s last few seasons, I could see why he&#039;d be ecstatic). I was unemployed in NY in 2006 and, being a principled homer, and, peripherally, a Padres and Mariners fan, and therefore a Yankees hater, but most importantly, unemployed, watched almost all of the Mets games on TV and attended some regular season games. My wife was working at William Morris and was able to finagle a couple seats for game 6 of the NLCS from an agent who, based on his not attending, apparently only had them to woo clients. 

In a 2 run game, Reyes went 3 for 4 with a HR, 2 SB, and 2 R, singlehandedly guaranteeing a game 7. Everyone chanted &quot;Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose, Joooose, Joooose,&quot; all the way from the stadium to the 7 train, and the chant rose and fell on the ride home as well. Game 7 was a heartbreaker, and the team&#039;s epic implosions since then are well known, but that hasn&#039;t stained one of my greatest baseball experiences. 

In other news, the Dodgers have now signed two SP with away ERAs of 4.70 and 5.42. Colletti being Colletti!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sad to see Reyes leave the Mets (though based on the team&#8217;s last few seasons, I could see why he&#8217;d be ecstatic). I was unemployed in NY in 2006 and, being a principled homer, and, peripherally, a Padres and Mariners fan, and therefore a Yankees hater, but most importantly, unemployed, watched almost all of the Mets games on TV and attended some regular season games. My wife was working at William Morris and was able to finagle a couple seats for game 6 of the NLCS from an agent who, based on his not attending, apparently only had them to woo clients. </p>
<p>In a 2 run game, Reyes went 3 for 4 with a HR, 2 SB, and 2 R, singlehandedly guaranteeing a game 7. Everyone chanted &#8220;Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose, Joooose, Joooose,&#8221; all the way from the stadium to the 7 train, and the chant rose and fell on the ride home as well. Game 7 was a heartbreaker, and the team&#8217;s epic implosions since then are well known, but that hasn&#8217;t stained one of my greatest baseball experiences. </p>
<p>In other news, the Dodgers have now signed two SP with away ERAs of 4.70 and 5.42. Colletti being Colletti!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017402&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: Haw haw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017402" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Haw haw.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1017402</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017324&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;: He just signed with the Dodgers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017324" rel="nofollow">Steve</a>: He just signed with the Dodgers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017311&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: There are a few team representatives you could harangue for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017311" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: There are a few team representatives you could harangue for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017143&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t think we&#039;d have much to do there.  Maybe interview for a GM job with the Astros, but other than that...

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SwaggerJackers&lt;/a&gt;: Yup and yup!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017143" rel="nofollow">Steve</a>: I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d have much to do there.  Maybe interview for a GM job with the Astros, but other than that&#8230;</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1017256" rel="nofollow">SwaggerJackers</a>: Yup and yup!</p>
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		<title>By: SwaggerJackers</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwaggerJackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More RBI opportunities for Stanton now.  Woohoo! 

Do people reallly stick tampons in their bats?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More RBI opportunities for Stanton now.  Woohoo! </p>
<p>Do people reallly stick tampons in their bats?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudy Gamble&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016907&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: Have you guys ever given any thought to creeping among the potted palms at the Winter Meetings? Or too much real-life shizz to do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016888" rel="nofollow">Rudy Gamble</a>: @<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016907" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Have you guys ever given any thought to creeping among the potted palms at the Winter Meetings? Or too much real-life shizz to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016842&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;: 40-ish HR/SB and .300 seems to be a bit more in line with what I&#039;d expect.  55 would be great, but I think it would have to be a 35 steal season to get there.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudy Gamble&lt;/a&gt;: Interesting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016842" rel="nofollow">Mark</a>: 40-ish HR/SB and .300 seems to be a bit more in line with what I&#8217;d expect.  55 would be great, but I think it would have to be a 35 steal season to get there.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016888" rel="nofollow">Rudy Gamble</a>: Interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016375&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OaktownSteve&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks.  She&#039;s doing well so far.  Not as hellish as I feared :)

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016384&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: Yount was moved at 29.  Hanley is 28.  And Hanley is much faster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016375" rel="nofollow">OaktownSteve</a>: Thanks.  She&#8217;s doing well so far.  Not as hellish as I feared <img src='http://razzball.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016384" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Yount was moved at 29.  Hanley is 28.  And Hanley is much faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still kind of like Hanley in the 2nd round, but looking at some early ADP data, I&#039;m not sure I wouldn&#039;t rather have Tulo and Prince or Tex than Votto or Gonzalez and Hanley.  If I have a Top 3 pick and wind up with Braun or Pujols though and Hanley falls to the end of the 2nd, I&#039;d probably take him.  I have a feeling a lot of other SS are going to be overvalued too.  Andrus, Starlin, Asdrubal, Peralta, maybe Hardy, maybe Aybar.  Dee Gordon in round twenty-something is probably the most interesting value pick at SS past the 2nd or 3rd round, and I&#039;d much rather stick him at MI than count on him at SS. 

I&#039;ve seen the argument than Hanley had been declining before 2011 in a few places, but I only half buy it.  Half buying because of the GB% spike in 2010 that persisted in 2011, but half not because aside from that, not a whole lot changed over the 2007-2010 period.  His walk and strikeout rates were a bit more erratic in 2007 and 2008 (in one year he whiffed and walked a lot, in the other he made more contact but didn&#039;t walk much) but take both as a whole and they&#039;re pretty much the same as they were in 2009, 2010, and even 2011.  In 2011 most of his other ratios were on par too (contact and swstrike%, HR/FB, IFFB%, were all pretty close to his career norms).  His ISO and BABIP were the only things that fell off, and even the ISO dip can be traced more to a lack of doubles than HR, meaning the low BABIP was probably effecting his ISO too.  Seems to suggest that, aside from the GB% issue, most of this was more injury related with a bit of luck than actual skill depreciation.  As long as he&#039;s healed up, I&#039;d expect a season within range of his 2010, maybe a touch worse, though unless he can correct the GB% issue, expecting anything better than that may be wishcasting.  Still, a 3B/SS who can give you 45-55 HR+SB and hit around .300 is a pretty excellent second round value, which is about what I&#039;d expect if there don&#039;t seem to be any lingering injury issues in the Spring.  I just wouldn&#039;t expect a .340-30-30 monster the way he used to be projected every year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still kind of like Hanley in the 2nd round, but looking at some early ADP data, I&#8217;m not sure I wouldn&#8217;t rather have Tulo and Prince or Tex than Votto or Gonzalez and Hanley.  If I have a Top 3 pick and wind up with Braun or Pujols though and Hanley falls to the end of the 2nd, I&#8217;d probably take him.  I have a feeling a lot of other SS are going to be overvalued too.  Andrus, Starlin, Asdrubal, Peralta, maybe Hardy, maybe Aybar.  Dee Gordon in round twenty-something is probably the most interesting value pick at SS past the 2nd or 3rd round, and I&#8217;d much rather stick him at MI than count on him at SS. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the argument than Hanley had been declining before 2011 in a few places, but I only half buy it.  Half buying because of the GB% spike in 2010 that persisted in 2011, but half not because aside from that, not a whole lot changed over the 2007-2010 period.  His walk and strikeout rates were a bit more erratic in 2007 and 2008 (in one year he whiffed and walked a lot, in the other he made more contact but didn&#8217;t walk much) but take both as a whole and they&#8217;re pretty much the same as they were in 2009, 2010, and even 2011.  In 2011 most of his other ratios were on par too (contact and swstrike%, HR/FB, IFFB%, were all pretty close to his career norms).  His ISO and BABIP were the only things that fell off, and even the ISO dip can be traced more to a lack of doubles than HR, meaning the low BABIP was probably effecting his ISO too.  Seems to suggest that, aside from the GB% issue, most of this was more injury related with a bit of luck than actual skill depreciation.  As long as he&#8217;s healed up, I&#8217;d expect a season within range of his 2010, maybe a touch worse, though unless he can correct the GB% issue, expecting anything better than that may be wishcasting.  Still, a 3B/SS who can give you 45-55 HR+SB and hit around .300 is a pretty excellent second round value, which is about what I&#8217;d expect if there don&#8217;t seem to be any lingering injury issues in the Spring.  I just wouldn&#8217;t expect a .340-30-30 monster the way he used to be projected every year.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1016675</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016570&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony&lt;/a&gt;: There&#039;s a reason why the Florida Marlins are the Miami Marlins. There&#039;s a reason why the Miami Marlins signed Jose Reyes. There&#039;s a reason why the Miami Marlins signed Ozzie Guillen. Baseball is as much the Latin pastime as it is the American pastime. Los Mets might have been a failed experiment, but there are a gazillion reasons why Los Marlins could work. This is a clear re-branding. 

On the draft, I totally agree with you. People are always surprisingly willing to overpay for last year&#039;s career year. There is a reason why Marcel The Monkey is about as successful as any prognosticator out there: it&#039;s based on that player&#039;s historical performance, not hopes, dreams and momentum. I&#039;d be out there looking for the value in the first few rounds after I snag some proven performers. Kemp is a perfect example of how this theory works. Why CBS had him in the 60s last year is beyond me. Now, they&#039;ll have him #5 after Pujols, Braun, Halladay and Cabrera. No thanks. 

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016527&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: my hot stove readership leaves a lot to be desired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016570" rel="nofollow">Tony</a>: There&#8217;s a reason why the Florida Marlins are the Miami Marlins. There&#8217;s a reason why the Miami Marlins signed Jose Reyes. There&#8217;s a reason why the Miami Marlins signed Ozzie Guillen. Baseball is as much the Latin pastime as it is the American pastime. Los Mets might have been a failed experiment, but there are a gazillion reasons why Los Marlins could work. This is a clear re-branding. </p>
<p>On the draft, I totally agree with you. People are always surprisingly willing to overpay for last year&#8217;s career year. There is a reason why Marcel The Monkey is about as successful as any prognosticator out there: it&#8217;s based on that player&#8217;s historical performance, not hopes, dreams and momentum. I&#8217;d be out there looking for the value in the first few rounds after I snag some proven performers. Kemp is a perfect example of how this theory works. Why CBS had him in the 60s last year is beyond me. Now, they&#8217;ll have him #5 after Pujols, Braun, Halladay and Cabrera. No thanks. </p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016527" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: my hot stove readership leaves a lot to be desired.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016378&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sean&lt;/a&gt;:   I figured Hanley probably going about the 10-15 range, so now.....  I bet he&#039;ll be right back up to about top 6-8 players off the board.

Every year people do this, kemp is a stud they overdraft, then he bombs, he slides the following year only to rebound huge.....  Hanleys got all the tools, i think he&#039;ll be motivated this year.  Ozzie wont take any of the slacking BS he did in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016378" rel="nofollow">sean</a>:   I figured Hanley probably going about the 10-15 range, so now&#8230;..  I bet he&#8217;ll be right back up to about top 6-8 players off the board.</p>
<p>Every year people do this, kemp is a stud they overdraft, then he bombs, he slides the following year only to rebound huge&#8230;..  Hanleys got all the tools, i think he&#8217;ll be motivated this year.  Ozzie wont take any of the slacking BS he did in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1016527</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016443&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sean&lt;/a&gt;: Hear?  Iannetta&#039;s on the Angels:

http://razzball.com/a-resigned-grady-re-signed-with-resigned-indians/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016443" rel="nofollow">sean</a>: Hear?  Iannetta&#8217;s on the Angels:</p>
<p><a href="http://razzball.com/a-resigned-grady-re-signed-with-resigned-indians/" rel="nofollow">http://razzball.com/a-resigned-grady-re-signed-with-resigned-indians/</a></p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1016443</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016384&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grey&lt;/a&gt;: Hear the rumblings about Scociapath wanting to get Iannetta? What is with this guy taking our fave catchers and putting them out to pasture?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016384" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Hear the rumblings about Scociapath wanting to get Iannetta? What is with this guy taking our fave catchers and putting them out to pasture?</p>
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		<title>By: Grey</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/#comment-1016384</link>
		<dc:creator>Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1015396&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chata&lt;/a&gt;: Nah, never saw Hackett live.  I saw Rickles, Cosby and Carlin (not at the same time).

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1015688&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony&lt;/a&gt;: Their pitching isn&#039;t terrible.  Anibal, Nolasco and Volstad... With LeBlanc, I guess.  Okay, it&#039;s not terrific, but not terrible.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1015854&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;schlitzy&lt;/a&gt;: I think the deal sounds about right.  Teams have to give players too many years in order to sign them.  I&#039;m sure this deal like most will be sour by the end.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016059&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GopherDay&lt;/a&gt;: Cool, will check it out in a bit.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016172&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;charlie batch&lt;/a&gt;: Gotcha

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016261&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eddie&lt;/a&gt;: Put on the glove again himself.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016270&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudy Gamble&lt;/a&gt;: What age was Yount when he switched?  Seems like Hanley&#039;s too old to be going to center, no?

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016293&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KeeblerMN&lt;/a&gt;: Rotoworld

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016322&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up&lt;/a&gt;: Ha...Nice

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016370&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OaktownSteve&lt;/a&gt;: I honestly haven&#039;t looked at Hanley in-depth yet.  Last year was terrible, but he had been declining for a few years.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016378&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sean&lt;/a&gt;: Yup]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1015396" rel="nofollow">chata</a>: Nah, never saw Hackett live.  I saw Rickles, Cosby and Carlin (not at the same time).</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1015688" rel="nofollow">Tony</a>: Their pitching isn&#8217;t terrible.  Anibal, Nolasco and Volstad&#8230; With LeBlanc, I guess.  Okay, it&#8217;s not terrific, but not terrible.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1015854" rel="nofollow">schlitzy</a>: I think the deal sounds about right.  Teams have to give players too many years in order to sign them.  I&#8217;m sure this deal like most will be sour by the end.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016059" rel="nofollow">GopherDay</a>: Cool, will check it out in a bit.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016172" rel="nofollow">charlie batch</a>: Gotcha</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016261" rel="nofollow">Eddie</a>: Put on the glove again himself.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016270" rel="nofollow">Rudy Gamble</a>: What age was Yount when he switched?  Seems like Hanley&#8217;s too old to be going to center, no?</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016293" rel="nofollow">KeeblerMN</a>: Rotoworld</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016322" rel="nofollow">Wake Up</a>: Ha&#8230;Nice</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016370" rel="nofollow">OaktownSteve</a>: I honestly haven&#8217;t looked at Hanley in-depth yet.  Last year was terrible, but he had been declining for a few years.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/reyes-moves-from-costanzas-to-seinfelds/comment-page-1/#comment-1016378" rel="nofollow">sean</a>: Yup</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with you about Hanley. I would have bought Hanley twice on Muesday with his 30% market value tag pre-Reyes. Now, he&#039;ll get all the hype: less injury because less demanding position; no doubt about the fact that he&#039;ll be in a run producing spot in the lineup instead of leadoff; gonna get fastballs with Reyes on base, etc.

Now, the 3B eligibility makes him everyone&#039;s second round sexy pick. He looks a fuckton better than Zimmerman and Youuuuk, who were getting drafted in the second and third last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you about Hanley. I would have bought Hanley twice on Muesday with his 30% market value tag pre-Reyes. Now, he&#8217;ll get all the hype: less injury because less demanding position; no doubt about the fact that he&#8217;ll be in a run producing spot in the lineup instead of leadoff; gonna get fastballs with Reyes on base, etc.</p>
<p>Now, the 3B eligibility makes him everyone&#8217;s second round sexy pick. He looks a fuckton better than Zimmerman and Youuuuk, who were getting drafted in the second and third last year.</p>
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		<title>By: OaktownSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>OaktownSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats on the new kid Rudy.  Mine is 6 weeks now.  First three months are brutal.  Hope everything is going well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the new kid Rudy.  Mine is 6 weeks now.  First three months are brutal.  Hope everything is going well.</p>
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		<title>By: OaktownSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>OaktownSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s going to be so much hype around the Marlins (new stadium, Reyes, Ozzie Guillen) that it&#039;s going to be near impossible to get Hanley at any sort of reasonable price.  

I am a little concerned about his 2010 as much as 2011.  More ground outs, fewer flyballs and line drives.  Plus there&#039;s no way to know how much the injury recovery continues to affect him this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s going to be so much hype around the Marlins (new stadium, Reyes, Ozzie Guillen) that it&#8217;s going to be near impossible to get Hanley at any sort of reasonable price.  </p>
<p>I am a little concerned about his 2010 as much as 2011.  More ground outs, fewer flyballs and line drives.  Plus there&#8217;s no way to know how much the injury recovery continues to affect him this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, Hanley.
Hello, Reyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Hanley.<br />
Hello, Reyes.</p>
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		<title>By: KeeblerMN</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey guys, 
What&#039;s the best place to follow breaking MLB deals during the winter meetings?  ESPN, Blogs, Twitter (may have to create a twitter account simply for this)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,<br />
What&#8217;s the best place to follow breaking MLB deals during the winter meetings?  ESPN, Blogs, Twitter (may have to create a twitter account simply for this)?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Marlins try out a few different defensive alignments in preseason.  Coghlan was an infielder in the minors - they might consider moving him to 3B and Hanley to CF so he feels more important.  Worked for Yount and the fellatious Upton (he was a SS to 2B).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Marlins try out a few different defensive alignments in preseason.  Coghlan was an infielder in the minors &#8211; they might consider moving him to 3B and Hanley to CF so he feels more important.  Worked for Yount and the fellatious Upton (he was a SS to 2B).</p>
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