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It was quite the week for trading in the Razzball Commenter Leagues this week as we saw 16 trades completed, several of which caused some commotion and consternation.  Those 16 trades don’t include the several vetoed trades (looking at you Cougs R Us) nor the few trades that were accepted Sunday but won’t be processed until Monday.   Those will be included in next week’s data.

Mike Maher and myself got the party kicked off last Tuesday morning, a couple hours before last week’s update hit.  You may have seen last week’s comments filled with talk of Bryce Harper.  In the deal I sent Mike Ryan Braun ($19.0), Miguel Sano ($18.7), Dallas Keuchel ($16.0) and Travis Shaw (-$10.2).  In return I received Bryce Harper ($38.0) and Carlos Santana ($20.0).  Those values in parentheses are the Rudy/Steamer Rest Of Season values as of Monday afternoon.  That comes out to (ignoring Travis Shaw, who was a throw in) $53.7 for Mike and $58.0 for myself.  At the time of the trade Ryan Braun wasn’t on the DL yet so his value was a bit higher.  This also doesn’t take into account the lineup flexibility I gain from the deal.  For example, I was able to add Alex Wood, who could end up being this year’s Dallas Keuchel circa 2015 if the Dodgers don’t yank his chain too much as well as a streaming spot for hitter/RP/streaming starter.  Grey was chirping and the consensus was that I had ripped off poor Mr. Maher.  In fact, Tehol posted two days AFTER the trade processed that the league should “do the right thing” and veto the deal.  This led Mike (who you should totally follow on Twitter – @mikeMaher) to break out the following Twitter Poll.  Only 4 out of 20 of Mike’s Twitter followers seemed to think I won that deal, with one Twitterer going on to say it wasn’t even close (which Mike agreed).  So, what does the rest of Razzball nation have to say about this deal?  I hate to make the entire lede about a deal that involved my team, so let’s bring this back to trades in general.  I’m entirely anti-veto.  Unless there’s money on the line and something can be proven that two parties are conspiring with one another to win a league and split the prize, I say let the deal stand.  In general, these RCLs are filled with people who don’t really know each other, just like a public league on any other site.  The only thing most of us have in common is reading Razzball.  Bryce Harper could snap any number of tendons tomorrow and then I’m left standing in the rain, cold and sad.  Managers evaluate talent differently, what you view as a good deal, I might not.  It’s your team though, so you do you, I’ll do me and we’ll ridicule your trade in the court of public opinion in the comments below.

‘PERTY ‘PERTS

Each week we’ll peek in at our resident ‘perts to see who is laying claim to best “expert” RCLer in the land.  We’ll take notes, check the standings and generally stalk them.  The heading is also hyperlink, so feel free to follow along as we go.

Just call Grey butter because he’s on a ROLL!  A week after leading the league in points gained with 17, Grey does it again with a 19 point gain.  He can’t be stopped.  Last week Grey finished 3rd in the TOW standings, this week, as an encore, he finished 10th.  Team Albright only hit 9 HRs, but his team scored 59 Runs, hit .298 and pitched 61 innings of 2.07 ERA while garnering 7 wins.  Streams of Jeff Samardzija, Jake Odorizzi, Trevor Cahill and Kenta Maeda helped boost starts by Cueto, Shoemaker and McCullers for another impressive week.  All this makes week 3 and Grey’s 57 points seem like ancient history.  40.5 points and a move from 9th to 1st in just 3 weeks is the stuff of legends.  

On the flip side, Ralph was the biggest loser this week, dropping 15.5 points and falling from his first place perch, all the way to 4th.

TOP 10

For those too lazy to check the MASTER STANDINGS, I present to you, the current top 10

RK TEAM LEAGUE RCL PTS LG PTS LG INDEX MASTER PTS
1 Rudy is Snooty Take On [email protected] 3 101.2 107.5 102 91.1
2 Grey is Bae Sons of Beddict 100.6 105 101 94.8
3 Pancake Riot BigThreeSports + Razzball = Love 100.6 108 101 91
4 Returning Champ The Giant and the Jew 99.1 104.5 102 90.9
5 Rakers Nation Rio Ruiz Super League 95 96.5 104 88.4
6 Rudy is Booty We’re All Winners 94.9 102 101 87
7 Team Craig Take on the Jay 94.9 103 100 87.4
8 High on Semien Viz Versus The Commenters 94.2 100.5 101 86.4
9 Hollywood Knights My Nightly Fantasy 93.6 98.5 102 85.9
10 Team Dingerz Daniel Murphy’s Porn Stash 93.5 102 100 85.8

Another week passes and still the robotic duo of Rudy is Snooty and Grey is Bae remain atop the Master Standings.  I must say, the roboteams are amazingly consistent, if only their league’s LCIs were higher.

Pancake Riot jumps one spot this week to third overall as Team Craig slips to 7th.

Returning Champ (where did he ever go?) checks into the top 10 this week, up from 17th last week.

Rakers Nation (aka Mad Beach Bums) represents those leagues with high LCIs as his squad uses every bit of that 104 LCI to move from 7th to 5th.

Three newcomers to the top 10 finish out the list with High on Semien (13th last week), Hollywood Knights (29th last week) and Team Dingerz (15th last week) checking in as Grey is Fae, Vottoman Empire and 70 MACH 1 check out.

Cram It still lurks in 11th overall for the second straight week.

TRADES

All the trades that have gone down in the past week.  Public ridicule is not only allowed, but encouraged.

DATE LEAGUE DETAILS
5/14/17 Cougs R Us Carcosa Yellow Kings traded Kyle Schwarber to Team Sheridan for Dylan Bundy
5/14/17 Sponge-worthy Anti-Dentites Cram It traded Joey Gallo & Edwin Diaz to Another Day in Paradise for Anthony Rendon & Derek Law
5/14/17 Razzball ‘Perty ‘Perts Rudy Gamble traded Billy Hamilton to Tehol for Ian Desmond
5/14/17 South Side Titans Fake news traded Kelvin Herrera to DENNIS system for Jose Ramirez
5/13/17 Original Recipe 2017 Teufel’s Shuffle traded Luis Severino to Team AL KOHOLIC for Justin Wilson
5/13/17 Frequent Commenters League JeF WiTh 1 F traded Wade Davis to No Use For A Name (Grimey) for Michael Conforto
5/12/17 Chemically Treated Razzballs Leftover Revenge traded Clayton Kershaw and Andrew Miller to Frequent Flyer for Gregory Polanco and Chris Davis
5/12/17 My Nightly Fantasy 1 Darwinium traded Andrew Triggs to Chicago Mark for Hernan Perez
5/11/17 Cougs R Us # Sozo traded Tim Beckham & Kenta Maeda to Dont Have To Cheat for Elvis Andrus & Jose Quintana
5/10/17 Cougs R Us Dont Have To Cheat traded Lance McCullers Jr. & Yasmany Tomas to Rookie Monsters for Yoan Moncada & Eduardo Rodriguez
5/10/17 Night of the Living Zombinos Pittsburgh Lumber Company traded Robinson Cano to Milo the Cat for Trevor Rosenthal & Kelvin Herrera
5/10/17 Cougs R Us Dont Have To Cheat traded Gregory Polanco & Stephen Strasburg to Rookie Monsters for Christian Yelich & Brandon Kintzler
5/10/17 Viz Versus The Commenters LA Royals traded Corey Knebel to Forty Acres and a Fool for Carlos Gomez
5/10/17 Razzball ‘Perty ‘Perts Mike Maher traded Carlos Santana & Bryce Harper to Matt Truss for Travis Shaw, Ryan Braun, Miguel Sano & Dallas Keuchel
5/10/17 Take on the Jay 4 New Jersey DOMINICAN traded Jonathan Villar & Johnny Cueto to Something Clever ‘n Funny for Aroldis Chapman & Greg Holland
5/9/17 Man on Third One Out $15 Coors Lights traded Edwin Diaz to Da Mask Bombers for Eric Thames
5/9/17 Take on Jay Team Jardine traded Nicholas Castellanos to Team M. for Eduardo Nunez

As I alluded to above, some funky stuff is going down in Cougs R Us.  It seems some trades gone sour have really thrown a wrench into what is perennially one of the top 5-10 RCLs.  Trades got vetoed, team names were changed to things like “Don’t Have To Cheat” and “Legal Roster” and there is a lot of bad vibes being thrown around on the message board.  Hopefully cooler heads prevail, but it’s a damn shame considering this is also one of the money RCLs in addition to the 105 LCI I mentioned above.

Something Clever ‘n Funny got burned bad, trading for a world class closer, only to lose him for at least a month just 3 days later…ouch.

One Eff Jef and Grimey completed a nice little trade.

As did Rudy and Tehol.  In fact, on the ROS Player Rater Desmond is valued at $19 and Billy Hamilton is valued at $18.9.  Still, I’d much rather have Desmond there.

WEEKLY LEADERS

The best of the best from the week that was.

R – 63 – LA Royals (Viz Versus The Commenters)

HR –21 – MPH MPH (The Humidor)

RBIs – 69 – MPH MPH (The Humidor)

SB – 15 – Team Ticky (Beddict Believers), Poison Control (Take on the Jay 2) & All Is Number (My Nightly Fantasy)

AVG – .358 – B.J. and The Bears (We’re All Winners)

K – 100 – Calgary Cannons (My Nightly Fantasy )

W – 9 – Team Murakami (EuroRazzball2017) & Benintendi’d Consequences (The Giant and the Jew)

SV –  12 – Each hit And I (The Camp Fire) & Big Chuck Machine (Keepin it Real)

ERA (Min. 40 IP) – 1.20 – Florida IBWIP (Prospector Ralph’s Cavern) (in 52.1 IP)

WHIP (Min. 40 IP) – 0.78 – BackBroke Valley (Jay’s here until Football Starts) (in 46 IP)

Nine wins tied this year’s weekly record.  Three teams now share this honor.  

It was a big week for MPH MPH, leading both HR and RBIs.  They finished the week second in TOW honors.  Had their pitching been a hair better, they’d have taken the prize.  Better luck next week!

Calgary Cannons is still doing Calgary Cannons things, leading the RCLs in Ks for the 2nd time in 6 weeks.

TEAM OF THE WEEK

Our weekly shout out to the team that killed it the previous week.

Team: B.J. and The Bears

League: We’re All Winners Standings

Stats:   H/AB: 100/279, AVG: .358, R: 54, HR: 19, RBI: 56, SB: 5

IP: 72.1, ERA: 2.86, WHIP: 1.30, K: 69, W: 7, SV: 4

Summary: I can’t see this team name without breaking into “Benny and the Jets” for some reason.  B.J. and the Bears are doing their best to take down one of the members of the robot army, Rudy is Booty.  With the stellar week they now sit a mere 5.5 points behind the bot.  Big weeks from Keon Broxton, Michael Conforto, Buster Posey, Joey Votto and Bryce Harper helped lead the way as did some quality innings from Marcus Stroman, Dallas Keuchel, Joe Biagini, Zack Greinke, John Lackey and Gerrit Cole.  The Bears are sitting with 90.5 standings despite a “1” in stolen bases.  Get this squad some steals and that robot will be shaking in it’s software.  Good luck and deity-of-choice-speed in your battle against the machine.

Want to be Matt’s Twitter pal?  That’s kinda creepy, but you can follow him here: @MattTruss

   
  1. Grey

    Grey says:
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    Wow, didn’t know how great I was doing, thanks for the update, Truss!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Grey: You’re fortunate I’m not there ;-)

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Member when you said in the preseason I didn’t have enough power? Yeah, got a 12 in HRs

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Grey: I would never say anything to be contrary or would ever razz you about your SHORTcummings. I’ve always been honest with you from day one

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            I see what you’re doing there…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Grey: when people ask me about you I say “HEB’s a great guy”

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Haha, you got jokes today!

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Grey: I bought a book

    • MattTruss

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      I didn’t even mention that you are 16th overall in the Master Standings too!

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        The champ is here!

  2. Mad Beach Bums says:
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    Interesting looking at the robo squads hitters, especially the top team has zero highly drafted hitters. It’s a bunch of streamer quality guys. Also why are the Lg points on this table different than what it shows on the specific league page? I assume just not updated or something else?

    • MattTruss

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      Very interesting. He has a couple teams where he drafted no hitters, Kershaw, Scherzer and a ton of closers, rotating his offense daily. The others he was 4-5 hitters (Posey, Goldy, Trout on one, etc) and no starters. Seems like he’s testing which mode is better. The machine is LEARNING!

      Also, we pull the data for this post Monday morning. Changes to the league page will happen during the week, but we gotta pick a cutoff time to pull the data. So, wherever you land Monday morning is where you are ranked for the next week.

  3. J-FOH says:
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    I think that robot mumbo jumbo is bogus. It’s a guy in a robot suit. http://geekologie.com/2011/10/31/drinking-robot.jpg

    Let him auto draft using Rudy’s Pre-Season dollar value ranks with a proper RCL strategy taken into consideration in those pre draft ranks and then let every choice be decided by the bots and then I’ll get interested….oh and great job. We need to chat again soon

    • MattTruss

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      Agreed on all accounts. I’ll ring in the next day or two for sure.

  4. Ralph Lifshitz

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    Deal reeks of one side not knowing how to win in the format. Why do we keep bringing this up? I feel like the guy in Tommy Boy who visited a whore during the war and his wife keeps bringing it up in board meetings.

    • MattTruss

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      It was the news of the week! People love ripping on trades, it’s like click-bait central

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @MattTruss: Hahahaha! This is true, twitter polls are meaningless though. We know the deal. My Perts team hurts my heart, and I missed on Zimmer. I NEED SPEED.

        Gotta be honest for Tehol’s team that was a good trade we were battling for steals points, and he now has an advantage.

        • MattTruss

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          Yea, solid deal for him. I’m a power whore though, always want the slugger that will chip in a few SBs, like Desmond. Hence, all my teams are speed starved. 24-25 SBs is where most of my RCL teams are sitting. It’s the SAGNOF way!

          • Ralph Lifshitz

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            @MattTruss: Same here, but I can’t catch a SAGNOF

            • mikeMaher

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              @Ralph Lifshitz:

              Harsh, Ralph! Deal is definitely a gamble but I looked at it as getting more productive bodies on a roster that needs them. Harper is the best hitter in baseball right now, but I was able to add Braun, Sano (a guy I believe in who should produce AT LEAST 30 HRs), and Keuchel to my pitching staff. Maybe I lose the deal in the end, but it definitely wasn’t shady or a ripoff. My team is struggling so I am trying to make some moves to climb back into the race.

  5. FrankGrimes says:
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    Finally get mentioned!

  6. BoyOBoy says:
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    The veto’d trades, for anyone who is wondering were a Goldy for Rizzo swap, straight up. And the other was Maeda and Victoria Beckham for Elvis and Quintana.

    Should either have been vetoed? A lot more going on behind the scenes there….

    • Grey

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      They sound totally fine

    • MattTruss

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      Yea, totally nothing wrong with those deals…that sucks

  7. LEGAL ROSTER says:
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    Someone should explain WHAT is going on behind the scenes in Cougs. The settings for the league state that each team will be comprised of 25 players, 22 of whom will start (including 1 Catcher) and each team will be limited to 3 bench players. One owner is “trying a strategy” where he doesn’t roster a catcher and thus has an additional bench slot that can be easily used for streaming purposes either offensively or to carry an extra pitcher. Catcher is a notoriously weak fantasy position and “eliminating” the position provides an unfair advantage (i.e.. cheating) –

    There is even more to it – but one forum post summed up the problem with not rostering a C. Which is different than not playing one. If you don’t want the paltry stats, let him sit the bench – but you MUST roster a catcher to be playing by the same rules as everyone else:

    (FROM THE MESSAGE BOARD)the game of baseball requires nine positions to play.

    deliberately not playing one of the nine positions because a glitch in the software allows it to happen is cheating.

    there is a ma$$ive, ma$$ive difference between having a fluid team with roster flexibility and not fielding one of the nine required positions of the sport.

    and none one has addressed the advantage gained by the extra roster spot.

    i also provided in very simple numbers how little a bottom tier catcher provides to the counting stats each week. numbers that the extra bench spot can easily make up by eliminating off days on the schedule at other positions.

    also add in the fact that the catcher position is not a spot where a player is going to play 150-155 games a year. most catchers will probably play 5 games a week.

    in fact last year only 8 catchers in all of baseball had enough abs to qualify for the batting title.

    only 13 catchers had even 400 abs. so a lower tier c is only going to average about 15 abs per week and as i’ve previously pointed out supply about .5 hr a week, about 1.5 runs and maybe 2 rbis a week.

    all that extra bench spot needs to do is fill in for 3 off days a week and you are probably still ending up with the same amount of abs yet getting abs at a stronger offensive position that can supply the same counting numbers with a higher ba and more sbs while eliminating one of the most important positions in the sport.

    the math is simple and undeniable.

    it is most definitely an advantage. an advantage noted in your post on razzball by a responder who stated “the extra roster spot can be used on a better position player” or something very close to that.

    the object of fantasy sports is to try and replicate the real sport as closely as possible. eliminating one of the most important positions in the sport does not do that.
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    The manager who is cheating says its what RCL is all about. Find loopholes that allow you to gain as much of an advantage as you can. Is that true? Do the RCL leagues encourage finding ways to cheat the system and your opponents? Are rosters really supposed to be 21 starters and 4 bench spots?

    What would YOU do with that other bench spot?

    • MattTruss

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      This is actually the second time this has come up this year. A player actually quit another league because he felt someone was “cheating” by rostering only 2 starters and 6 RPs, thus giving him an “extra” roster spot for an offensive bench player, here’s my response to that, which works the same for this case in Cougs:

      Honestly, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what he is doing. I’m doing the same thing in my RCLs, look at my team today. I have 8 P and therefore 4 bench hitters. 3 bench spots is NOT a roster requirement, 3 bench spots is just how many extra roster spots you have in addition to the 22 starters (13 hittters, 9 pitcher spots). The requirement is 25 roster spots. If you choose to roster no pitchers you can roster 12 bench bats if you so desire. That’s your own prerogative. I routinely rotate roster spots like this. On slow hitter days I’ll drop my streaming RPs which will sometimes leave me with 8 pitchers and then fill my starting offense roster with active hitters. The next day I will drop those batty calls and pick up RPs again. It’s churn and burn in RCLs, roster spots aren’t super valuable. I treat the waiver wire as my personal rotating bench. I’ve written about doing this in my RCL posts. It’s all about maximizing ABs and therefore counting stats. It’s not cheating, it’s playing the format. I think everyone is a little high strung myself. Is it really cheating that he’s starting Jesus Aguilar at 1B today? The total allowable players is set at 25 (27 if you include 2 DL spots). How a manager chooses to roster those 25 spots is completely up to them. Tell everyone to take a chill pill and focus on winning.

      Also, to note, this has NOTHING to do with cheating and/or a “glitch” in ESPN’s software. You could do this same thing on Yahoo, CBS, FanTrax, you name it. There is nothing stopping me from dropping all my pitchers in my Yahoo league and rostering all hitters or in this case, dropping my catcher. In fact, in my Yahoo Pro League right now I have no catcher since it was a slow day and I wanted to stream Jose Berrios instead of roster Yadier Molina, who wasn’t playing today anyway. No one there is accusing me of cheating and I’m pretty sure Yahoo would laugh at them if they tried to report me for dropping Yadier Molina. Cheating is figuring out a way to hack the system and roster 40 players or going in a league with your buddy and trading all your scrubs for his first rounder. This is just playing the format. My two cents.

      That said, I think it’s pretty silly to not even roster a catcher. Bad stats or not, it’s still counting stats that add up over time. You should always try your hardest to have a full complement of starting offense, catcher included. I typically stream my catcher position in RCLs just for this reason, since a catcher typically plays so little, I want one starting everyday. adding and dropping them at will helps me keep that filled. AND if and when it’s a short schedule day and I’d prefer the stats of an OF on waivers, I drop my catcher for that player. Maybe a good streaming pitcher? Drop my catcher for that guy. Think a rookie might get called up overnight? Drop your catcher to hold him just in case and then figure out who to drop in the morning. This is just playing smarter, not cheating.

  8. LEGAL ROSTER says:
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    I’d say it is playing unethically. It bastardizes the sport. I am not out to convince anyone – and I guess you can play any way you want (that couldn’t be more clear), but that doesn’t make it right or ok….and it should be made known that there are NO rules or requirements before you ask a guy to paypal you $100. The same guy ruining the league (IMO) organized the veto of the trades you already agreed were fair…again – unethical and hypocritical. It must be tiring running not just your own team but the others in the league too… I’m not a quitter and will continue to maintain a LEGAL ROSTER.

  9. mikeMaher

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    Pleasure doing business with you, Truss. Hopefully, it helps at least one of us in the end, haha.

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