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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1574924</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, Cellar Dwellers reached the limit on Friday, and picked up Clayton Richard on Sunday, replacing Beckett in the starting lineup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, Cellar Dwellers reached the limit on Friday, and picked up Clayton Richard on Sunday, replacing Beckett in the starting lineup.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1574822</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, 

Well you were definitely right about the RP stats continuing to accrue. Chicago Ashman now has 4 more Ks than he did after 7/23, which equals what Chapman&#039;s stats these last couple days. And he didn&#039;t get credit for Lohse&#039;s start last night (those stats were wiped away when the ESPN database updated overnight). I&#039;m happy to have this info.

The last question I have is whether or not you&#039;re sure that lineups can still be edited after the 180 start &quot;lineup lock&quot;? That would add a bit of a wrinkle to this whole process. If you want to start 9 SPs on your final SP day, but can&#039;t ever re-edit your lineup, that might make you want to scale it back a bit and maybe only start 6 SPs and your 3 closers. That way your closers can still rack up their SVs etc for the remainder of the season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, </p>
<p>Well you were definitely right about the RP stats continuing to accrue. Chicago Ashman now has 4 more Ks than he did after 7/23, which equals what Chapman&#8217;s stats these last couple days. And he didn&#8217;t get credit for Lohse&#8217;s start last night (those stats were wiped away when the ESPN database updated overnight). I&#8217;m happy to have this info.</p>
<p>The last question I have is whether or not you&#8217;re sure that lineups can still be edited after the 180 start &#8220;lineup lock&#8221;? That would add a bit of a wrinkle to this whole process. If you want to start 9 SPs on your final SP day, but can&#8217;t ever re-edit your lineup, that might make you want to scale it back a bit and maybe only start 6 SPs and your 3 closers. That way your closers can still rack up their SVs etc for the remainder of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1572686</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Paulie Allnuts, I&#039;m pretty sure they changed the rule right after that, because they felt bad for you.

Chicago Ashman was credited with the Aroldis Chapman save last night after using their 180th start on Monday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paulie Allnuts, I&#8217;m pretty sure they changed the rule right after that, because they felt bad for you.</p>
<p>Chicago Ashman was credited with the Aroldis Chapman save last night after using their 180th start on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulie Allnuts</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1572633</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulie Allnuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, If that is the case, ESPN must have changed its rules in the last several years. Four years ago, when i was a new-be to the RCL, I finished up about 5 days early, if I recall, and planned on working on my peripherals and K&#039;s utilizing MR&#039;s. But ESPN shut down my pitching, to my surprise, and that may have cost me a championship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, If that is the case, ESPN must have changed its rules in the last several years. Four years ago, when i was a new-be to the RCL, I finished up about 5 days early, if I recall, and planned on working on my peripherals and K&#8217;s utilizing MR&#8217;s. But ESPN shut down my pitching, to my surprise, and that may have cost me a championship.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1567520</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, 

Alright, he should serve as a nice 1st hand example... Chicago Ashman has reached his 180 GS limit after his final 7/23 start, and has 870 Ks, 3.714 ERA, and 1.260 WHIP. 

At this point, I assume you&#039;re correct about RP stats continuing to accrue, but it&#039;s just reassuring to be able to see it for myself. Thanks for the work as always!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, </p>
<p>Alright, he should serve as a nice 1st hand example&#8230; Chicago Ashman has reached his 180 GS limit after his final 7/23 start, and has 870 Ks, 3.714 ERA, and 1.260 WHIP. </p>
<p>At this point, I assume you&#8217;re correct about RP stats continuing to accrue, but it&#8217;s just reassuring to be able to see it for myself. Thanks for the work as always!</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1567326</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, Ones are GOOD right?

 http://games.espn.go.com/flb/standings?leagueId=15770&amp;seasonId=2012]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, Ones are GOOD right?</p>
<p> <a href="http://games.espn.go.com/flb/standings?leagueId=15770&#038;seasonId=2012" rel="nofollow">http://games.espn.go.com/flb/standings?leagueId=15770&#038;seasonId=2012</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1567296</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, 

Very nice. Which league is Chicago Ashman in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, </p>
<p>Very nice. Which league is Chicago Ashman in?</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565529</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, Chicago Ashman is using his last start tonight, and has Aroldis Chapman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, Chicago Ashman is using his last start tonight, and has Aroldis Chapman.</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565039</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, I definitely will. 

I also update everyone&#039;s starts, moves and IP every Saturday morning here:

http://vinreich.webs.com/Stats.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, I definitely will. </p>
<p>I also update everyone&#8217;s starts, moves and IP every Saturday morning here:</p>
<p><a href="http://vinreich.webs.com/Stats.html" rel="nofollow">http://vinreich.webs.com/Stats.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565024</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, 

Interesting....

Fred&#039;s been going through his GS at an accelerated pace this season, but I just assumed he&#039;d be stopping at 179 when he gets there in mid-August. Maybe that isn&#039;t the case anymore though.

Will keep an eye out on this. Please do let us know when another team hits 180.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, </p>
<p>Interesting&#8230;.</p>
<p>Fred&#8217;s been going through his GS at an accelerated pace this season, but I just assumed he&#8217;d be stopping at 179 when he gets there in mid-August. Maybe that isn&#8217;t the case anymore though.</p>
<p>Will keep an eye out on this. Please do let us know when another team hits 180.</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565019</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@thefaketom, You can still make any moves you want. Nothing is &quot;locked.&quot; Just any time a pitcher starts, no stats will be counted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thefaketom, You can still make any moves you want. Nothing is &#8220;locked.&#8221; Just any time a pitcher starts, no stats will be counted.</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565017</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Charley, Yeah, you&#039;re in good shape, good ERA and WHIP, and now you can just use your best pitchers if you want. Plus, as I said, the teams closest to you in the counting stats are also well ahead of the pace, so it shouldn&#039;t cause you problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Charley, Yeah, you&#8217;re in good shape, good ERA and WHIP, and now you can just use your best pitchers if you want. Plus, as I said, the teams closest to you in the counting stats are also well ahead of the pace, so it shouldn&#8217;t cause you problems.</p>
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		<title>By: thefaketom</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565013</link>
		<dc:creator>thefaketom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, I was curious myself about this.  I had the sinking feeling that it might be locked, but nothing really says either way.  

So your pitching is locked in but if you have RPs in there they continue getting stats?  Or can you still trade/drop starters and replace with relief?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, I was curious myself about this.  I had the sinking feeling that it might be locked, but nothing really says either way.  </p>
<p>So your pitching is locked in but if you have RPs in there they continue getting stats?  Or can you still trade/drop starters and replace with relief?</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565010</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, If Cellar Dwellers would get some RPs, we could watch right now! 

Now the ECFBL will be piling up even more stats, I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, If Cellar Dwellers would get some RPs, we could watch right now! </p>
<p>Now the ECFBL will be piling up even more stats, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565008</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As co-owner of the Railheads, I&#039;ll admit we&#039;re ahead of the pace but we&#039;ve stopped streaming our starters. We&#039;re hoping to slow that down and buck up on relievers to bolster our WHIP/Saves and even some vulture wins with some long relievers/middle relievers. It&#039;s a new strategy for us, so we&#039;ll see!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As co-owner of the Railheads, I&#8217;ll admit we&#8217;re ahead of the pace but we&#8217;ve stopped streaming our starters. We&#8217;re hoping to slow that down and buck up on relievers to bolster our WHIP/Saves and even some vulture wins with some long relievers/middle relievers. It&#8217;s a new strategy for us, so we&#8217;ll see!</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1565003</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, Yeah, I noticed that about the ECFBL last year. But I definitely watched last year and people were still getting saves. after the 180. When I mentioned this in April, Fred didn&#039;t believe it either, so he asked ESPN:

 I posed the question to ESPN. They validated that you were spot on!

“Relief pitchers’ statistics are not affected by the Games Started Limit. If a pitcher who is traditionally a starter appears in relief, it is considered a relief appearance, and is not restricted by the Games Started Limit.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, Yeah, I noticed that about the ECFBL last year. But I definitely watched last year and people were still getting saves. after the 180. When I mentioned this in April, Fred didn&#8217;t believe it either, so he asked ESPN:</p>
<p> I posed the question to ESPN. They validated that you were spot on!</p>
<p>“Relief pitchers’ statistics are not affected by the Games Started Limit. If a pitcher who is traditionally a starter appears in relief, it is considered a relief appearance, and is not restricted by the Games Started Limit.”</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1564991</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@VinWins, 

Hmm, I&#039;ll be interested to look into this further when another team that hits 180 GS actually has a RP on their roster. From what I recall the last few seasons, all pitchers and their stats lock from the day after you reach the GS limit. 

That&#039;s why everyone in my league waits til the final week to load up on 9 SPs for that last push. But maybe we&#039;ve had it wrong...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VinWins, </p>
<p>Hmm, I&#8217;ll be interested to look into this further when another team that hits 180 GS actually has a RP on their roster. From what I recall the last few seasons, all pitchers and their stats lock from the day after you reach the GS limit. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why everyone in my league waits til the final week to load up on 9 SPs for that last push. But maybe we&#8217;ve had it wrong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1564943</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris, RP stats continue to count after you reach 180 starts. Only stats from starting pitchers are not added.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, RP stats continue to count after you reach 180 starts. Only stats from starting pitchers are not added.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1564848</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once you reach 180 starts, your entire pitching lineup is locked, relievers included. So Cellar Dwellers has just about doomed his chances of finishing well. 2 more months of no pitching stats...

As for Zimmerman, I&#039;m very happy I acquired him when I did.  His stats the last 30 days have been unreal, especially given how useless he was for most of the 1st half.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once you reach 180 starts, your entire pitching lineup is locked, relievers included. So Cellar Dwellers has just about doomed his chances of finishing well. 2 more months of no pitching stats&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Zimmerman, I&#8217;m very happy I acquired him when I did.  His stats the last 30 days have been unreal, especially given how useless he was for most of the 1st half.</p>
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		<title>By: VinWins</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1564698</link>
		<dc:creator>VinWins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@panthers_freak, Maybe not. I have found a lot of people never look at the settings, and (believe it or not) don&#039;t read my updates. Somebody trying to make a deal might be able to explain the situation and end up with an ace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@panthers_freak, Maybe not. I have found a lot of people never look at the settings, and (believe it or not) don&#8217;t read my updates. Somebody trying to make a deal might be able to explain the situation and end up with an ace.</p>
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		<title>By: panthers_freak</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/rcl-roundup-july-23/#comment-1564675</link>
		<dc:creator>panthers_freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Cellar Dwellers know the rules? He is still trying to use starters and has not picked up any relievers yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Cellar Dwellers know the rules? He is still trying to use starters and has not picked up any relievers yet.</p>
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