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Rookie sensation Tony Cingrani has been lights out since he’s filled in for an injured Johnny Cueto, allowing 3 ERs in his first 12 innings with 17 strikeouts.  But with those dominant outings at Miami and at home against the Chicago Cubs, it’s not exactly like he was blowing away elite offenses.

This time out on a Sunday afternoon, Tony C would be facing one of baseball’s most dynamic lineups on the road.  Relying very heavily on his power fastball, it’s been debated how long Cingrani could have success in the Majors, so I decided to tune in to his start yesterday and break down the rookie’s third career start:

First Inning: Cingrani’s first pitch is a 92-MPH low and in to Denard Span.  The tall lefty has 2 runs of support, and throws another 92-MPH heater over for a strike.  He hits the same spot, maybe a shade in, to get up 1-2, then is high at 94-MPH.  He sticks with the fastball and Span lines it fairly hard but it’s right to Xavier Paul, 1 down.  Cingrani is in there and gets fouled off, then is outside, 1-1 to Danny Espinosa, then shows his first breaking pitch, a hard, biting curveball at 78-MPH to get a swing-and-miss, 1-2.  He misses low and and in, then low and in again, to fall back to a full count.  He then rears back and blows a 94-MPH fastball by Espinosa swinging, right down the middle.  That might be a pitch Major League hitters can adjust to if it stays right down Broadway.  Cingrani bounces the first one to Bryce Harper, then paints the outside corner with a 95-MPH fastball, 1-1.  Cingrani again at 95 gets Harper to foul one off the fists, then pounds it back inside at 95, 2-2.  Man, that fastball is unreal.  Then he again paints the outside corner at 96-MPH (yes 96!) in a perfect location and the ump doesn’t give him the call.  That was right there, I think in Cincy he gets that called strike three.  Cingrani took a step to the dugout too, but I don’t blame him, that was a strike.  The next pitch is again on the fists, and Harper grounds out weakly to second, inning over.

Second Inning: Picking up another run of support and protecting a 3-0 lead, Cingrani starts Jayson Werth with a 91-MPH fastball just in there, 0-1.  Again in there on the outside corner, 0-2, then 94-MPH at the letters Werth fouls back.  Cingrani misses inside, then low, then a 93-MPH fastball is popped out to shallow right.  That one probably got a tad too much of the plate, but he gets away with it.  Cingrani misses a tad low and inside to Ian Desmond, 1-0, then rolls a curveball way outside, 2-0.  Needs to find that curveball again.  Cingrani paints the outside corner, 2-1, then low, then paints that outside corner again and Desmond swings through it, 3-2.  Cingrani then blows a 93-MPH fastball chest high through a swinging Desmond, two down, two Ks.  Cingrani blows one past LaRoche swinging, then an incredible 77-MPH curveball gets LaRoche way out in front, 0-2.  Cingrani then pounds the inside corner at 94 and gets the backwards K, six up six down.

Third Inning: Cingrani starts the third with a 92-MPH fastball to Anthony Rendon low and inside, then perfect on the outside lower corner, 1-1.  Cingrani then paints the inside corner, but doesn’t get the call, man, he can paint.  He’s again on the outside corner, then the next one is lined out to center, one down.  Cingrani hits the outside corner against Kurt Suzuki, 0-1, then way outside, 1-1.  A curveball is low, still haven’t seen too many of those, then a fastball is popped up and Brandon Phillips makes a great catch, two down.  Cingrani now gets opposing pitcher Ross Detwiler and gets a strike in 0-1, then again, 0-2.  He misses high, 1-2, then low, 2-2, then blows a 91-MPH fastball by him, four Ks, through 3 perfect.

Fourth Inning: The first pitch of the 4th is a fastball high and tight to Span, then Span fouls one off 1-1.  A 76-MPH curveball sweeps across the zone and dots the outside lower edge, 1-2.  What a pitch.  Then it’s another curveball at 78-MPH that gets Span missing, but it bounces out of the reach of catcher Corky Miller, and it’s the first baserunner for the Nationals, but another strikeout for Cingrani.  Miller probably should’ve had that one.  Cingrani misses low to Espinosa, then checks Span twice.  Last game out he allowed Alfonso Soriano to steal second and third base, so he is still working on holding runners.  Cingrani then misses, then a 1-1 change-up is lined opposite field for a double.  Span is held at third, runners at second and third with no outs.  I think that was Cingrani’s first change-up, and might be his last.  Didn’t look like it did much and stayed high in the zone.  Big matchup here for Cingrani against Harper, and he gets a fastball over at 95, strike one.  Then Harper bunts the next one foul, (wow, odd to see that) and it’s 0-2.  Then the next pitch is a 95-MPH fastball at the eyes, and Harper can’t keep himself from swinging and Cingrani made him look silly for another strikeout, his 6th.  Werth gets a 96-MPH fastball for a strike, then Cingrani is low on two straight, 2-1.  Cingrani is low again, and finds himself behind 3-1.  Cingrani goes to another fastball that stays a tad too high and tight, and he loses Werth and the bases are loaded.  Cingrani paints the outside corner at 95 to Desmond, 0-1.  What a pitch.  Then it’s 96-MPH boring down and in for a swing-and-miss, 0-2.  Cingrani paints high and tight that misses, 1-2, then blows Desmond away at 94-MPH, 7 Ks.  With two outs that’s three strikeouts in the inning.  At 94-MPH, Cingrani keeps it on the black, and gets strike one to LaRoche.  Outside 1-1, then LaRoche fouls it to left, 1-2, then again fouls one, then Cingrani paints that outside corner at 96-MPH for strike three looking, four strikeouts in the inning!  Unreal.

Fifth Inning: At 70 pitches, Cingrani starts the fifth with a fastball high and outside, then high again, 2-0 to Rendon.  In there 2-1, then Rendon fouls one back, 2-2, then paints inside but too far, 3-2.  The payoff pitch is a fastball right down the middle and Rendon shoots a single to left.  Cingrani checks on Rendon with a little bit of an awkward move to first, then gets strike one on Suzuki.  Strike two is in there, this time at 89-MPH with the fastball, wow, he mixes up speeds.  The 0-2 pitch is a fastball high in the zone at 92-MPH that Suzuki hits hard but it’s caught by Choo on the run, two down.  Cingrani misses to pinch hitter Tyler Moore, then one is fouled, 1-1.  Cingrani misses high, then paints the outside corner at 89-MPH, 2-2.  Cingrani moves it a shade further out and Moore swings late at a 92-MPH fastball, 9 Ks.  Span gets a 91-MPH fastball for a strike, then the next is tipped foul.  Cingrani is high, 1-2, then a curveball sweeping 11-5 at 77-MPH is barely laid off of, 2-2.  Nice pitch there.  Another fastball is fouled, then a 90-MPH fastball is inside, 3-2.  Span fights another off, then a fastball is lined to left, and Xavier Paul drops it, but recovers and throws out Rendon trying to score from first, and gets him by a mile.  The Nationals must be thinking that would be their best shot to score on Cingrani!

Sixth Inning: At 92 pitches, Cingrani is low to Espinosa 1-0 then paints the outside corner 1-1.  An absolutely tremendous curveball breaking that 10-4/11-5 angle at 76-MPH is swung through, 1-2.  Just a great looking curveball.  Cingrani goes to it again and it’s low, then a fastball is popped to second, 1 down.  Cingrani is low, 1-0, then a change-up on the outer edge gets Harper to swing and miss, 1-1.  I think only his second change-up and it was much better that time.  Cingrani is barely outside, 2-1, then again that change-up again on the outer edge is fouled off, 2-2. Then another one of those great curveballs barely dips low, and the 3-2 is a 95-MPH fastball right at the knees and 10 Ks, that one looking.  Harper knew it too, what a pitch.  Werth fouls the first one off, then a fastball outside on the outer corner works it 0-2.  A great curveball almost gets Werth to offer but it’s 1-2, then a 95-MPH fastball is fouled off.  Still hitting the mid-90s.  Outside 2-2, then another fouled, then a fastball at 93-MPH perfectly placed on the outer lower corner gets Werth to swing and miss and on 110 pitches and notching his 11th strikeout, Cingrani’s masterful gem comes to an end.

Final Line: W  6.0 IP  110 Pitches  2 Hits  1 Walk  0 Earned Runs  11 Ks

Final Analysis:  Easily the best pitcher profile outing all year.  Cingrani does indeed rely on that fastball, but he varies it from 89-MPH all the way to 96!  I believe he knows how to make his fastball more than just one pitch, so he’s not throwing the same fastball every time.  The curveball was working as well, staying low in the zone with consistent movement.  The first change-up he threw was a hanger that got laced for a double, but the other times he went to it, both in the Harper at-bat in the 6th, it looked solid as well.  Cingrani now has an unreal 28:4 K:BB ratio, and a 20:1 ratio in the last two.  Suffice to say, the control is there.

Ever since I watched Cingrani’s debut, I questioned why scouts argue against Cingrani’s future success in the Majors because he relies on “deception.”  They compare him to guys like Mike Fiers or Josh Collmenter, conveniently lumping guys with “deception” as if every pitcher’s deception is the same and will always get figured out.  Jered Weaver relies on “deception” and was doing fine until he cracked his elbow!  And Cingrani’s stuff is not just skating by with “deception” it’s a fastball blowing hitters away and a nasty curveball to work off it.  Maybe it was just on in yesterday’s outing – scouts have not praised it in the Minors – but it looked fantastic against the Nats.

Cingrani is surely snatched up in all competitive leagues, but if for some reason he’s out there he’s an obvious must own.  I don’t think the stuff is a concern at all; the only concerns are what the Reds will do when Cueto returns, holding baserunners, and a slight knock with his high pitch counts. I, along with probably everyone else at this point (except maybe Mike Leake), are hoping he takes Leake’s rotation spot and pitches through the whole year.  When you’re striking out as many guys as Cingrani, the pitch counts will get up there, so I don’t think it’s a concern for fantasy as you want those Ks even if it costs you maybe a win at some point.  And it’s not as big a concern holding runners when you allow so few!  It will be interesting to see what the Reds do when Cueto is back, but Cingrani is a pitcher you start no matter what while he’s starting.

 

  1. Murray says:
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    Whoa. Did anyone read all this?

    • and1mcgee says:
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      @Murray: lol

    • Derrick says:
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      I did.@Murray:

        • Joe says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Anyone who complains about how long an article is on this site is a HUGE tool.

          • Swat290 says:
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            @Joe:
            your comment was too long.

          • Murray says:
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            @Joe: anyone named joe is a huge tool…take that!

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Murray: if you don’t want to read it, there’s the door.

    • Slacker says:
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      @Murray: I did! Picked him up in all my leagues and have not been disappointed!!

  2. Jif & The Choosy Mothers says:
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    Yes.

  3. joel

    joel says:
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    great read. and wonderful to see such a glowing profile of cingrani as a keeper league owner. i was trying to sell high, but i’m holding after that start. sounds like his curve was working well, which is great news!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @joel: Thanks man! As a keeper owner myself in a league, I was blown away how ridiculous he looked. I’ve watched most of his innings and he is only getting better as he adjusts. Very very excited for him the rest of the year.

  4. Wake Up says:
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    Nice work. I caught some of this game too and you are spot on. I’m starting to come around on Cingrani. I watched his first start too and he was not nearly as good as last night. Thanks.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Wake Up: Thank you so much! Yea I went from thinking he’d be a solid rookie to that he has top of the rotation potential, very excited

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Wake Up: i was only able to watch the first one. Sounded great from this article though.

  5. carp says:
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    Cingrani over Josh Johnson, Jarrod Parker or Bret Anderson from here on out? Any thoughts on Straily as a young pitcher now getting a chance?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @carp: I wouldn’t over JJ yet because we don’t know if Cingrani will have his spot all year. Too worried about Parker and Anderson with the injuries

  6. Jfree says:
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    I’m really enjoying these profiles. Gives me a much better sense of how new-to-MLB pitchers are adapting to the different batter types (esp high-contact and heart-of-the-order types). Cingrani may have a tough time (contact% seems too high/dangerous) on his 2nd time round different teams – but a lot of young pitchers do. May even serve the Reds well to send him down to AAA to tweak his game rather than just replace Leake when Cueto returns. It definitely looks like he has the command and the guts (don’t know about the learning ability for that 3rd or 4th pitch)) to be a really good pitcher long-term. And in the meantime, I’m looking to enjoy the ride.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Jfree: Me too! Excited for this first half where he hopefully keeps this up. Bit longer but I definitely think he can after watching yesterday’s game.

  7. Stantonovation says:
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    WHich side of these offers;

    Grander son, Freese, Holliday for Stanton Trumbo

    Grander son, Freese, CC for Stanton Trumbo

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Stantonovation: like Stanton Trumbo in the 2nd one, like the first side in the first one.

  8. JDW says:
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    Well, sometimes owning these young guys causes one to be too cute. I had Cingrani on my bench last night! On purpose!! GRRRR!!!

    It was his first away start and his first against a “strong” offense. But, really, it’s Harper on his own right now. Maybe the Nats offense is a bit thin and overrated. Anyway, after getting burned by Jose Fernandez’s two last starts (his 3rd and 4th starts) I figured a wait a see approach with Cingrani third start was a smart move. DAMN did I blow it. So, now he’s must start and, with my luck, will get all blowed up. If Cingrani craps the bed next start go ahead and blame me. I’m the jinx.

    • Shake N Bacon says:
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      @JDW: I did the exact same thing for the same reasoning as you. Jo-Fer burned me too.

      • JDW says:
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        @Shake N Bacon:

        Thanks for the reassurance man! Glad I wasn’t alone although I hate it for you too. Still, we still own the kid. So that’s…good hopefully.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Shake N Bacon: @JDW: I actually had a friend who is a Nats fan bench him and I gave him grief. Although I did start him in leagues but not Pat Corbin, who I should’ve rolled as well. Thanks for reading!

  9. Shake N Bacon says:
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    Nice write up!

    I’m kicking myself for not starting him yesterday. He looked damn good. Do you think he throws two kinds of fastballs? 2-seamer and a 4-seamer? Some of his fastballs looked like they had a little sink to them.

    I’m hoping they keep him in the rotation. He’s fun to watch.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Shake N Bacon: I’m pretty sure they were all 4-seamers, most of that movement went into righties, more indicative of 4-seam action and not that breaking away from righties movement you’d see on a 2-seam. I think he just mixes the speeds. I of course hope Leake doesn’t “steal” his spot either hahaha, see what I did there…? Thanks for reading!

  10. Targaryan says:
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    I dropped Cing late last week to grab Cashner….. I wish I had dropped Beckett instead. Good read.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Targaryan: Thanks man! Yup I’m holding onto Cingrani even if he goes down for a little bit to the minors.

    • Hondo says:
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      @Targaryan:

      Same here,I wish I would have dropped Estrada instead.

  11. malamoney says:
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    Do you start Cingrani this week with one start over Houston Street who will have a week of save opportunities?

    I love Cingrani. Watched the whole game yesterday and agree with everything you’ve said. I have just come to the philosophy that 7 games from a closer usually outweighs a one start starter.

    Thoughts?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @malamoney: standard roto? In head to head I probably take Cingrani for the week he could win you strikeouts, but in roto I would probably play street for the week

      • malamoney says:
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        @JB Gilpin: It’s a H2H points league

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @malamoney: Eh, close but Cingrani.

          • malamoney says:
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            @JB Gilpin: How about this one. Lincecum or Shelby Miller?

            • malamoney says:
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              @malamoney: Or Medlen?

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @malamoney: Rest of season? Medlen.

  12. bsaeball says:
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    WIll he have any inning limits this year? In a H2H league should I trade him while his stock is up, assuming he has a limit and won’t be pitching in September?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @bsaeball: I haven’t heard anything yet, but I don’t think so. He pitched through college and has 100+ pitches every game so far so I don’t think there is too much concern of limiting him. Plus the Reds should be in the playoff hunt so they’ll need him. I don’t mind a good sell high but I think he could still be effective late.

      • Ragin Cagin says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I think you have to assume Cingrani has some sort of innings limit. He pitched 108 in 2011 and 151 in 2012. It seems that teams are limiting pitchers to the 20% increase in innings rule these days. Cingrani does throw less taxing fastballs and does not have the pedigree, but I am not sure why Cingrani would be treated any differently than other promising young pitchers.

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Ragin Cagin: he’s got dusty, that’s different.

  13. Grey's Mom says:
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    Sold him high in my keeper, for draft picks next year. I don’t regret it, but if he stays up, I sure will later. Wish I’d have waited for this start.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Grey’s Mom: Thanks for reading Mrs. Albright! Yea it’s still early and one of your draft picks might end up being a great selection too, so I wouldn’t feel too bad unless Cingrni stays in the rotation and keeps it up the whole season. Which has its fair share of knocks against it

  14. Oppo Taco says:
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    Bourn/cingrani/Tavares for YoGa/Zobrist make for a good sell high? Or hold

    • Oppo Taco says:
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      Great read, loved watching him pitch yesterday, I kind of want to hold him, he’s been electric so far

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Oppo Taco: Yea I’m holding him everywhere too unless I’m givenb a ridiculous offer. I like that deal, not a huge Yoga fan but Zobrist will probably be a huge boost at MI.

  15. Fish says:
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    Value-wise, where would you rank him among other starting pitchers?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Fish: Tough, if I got 160 innings out of him, probably top 30, but that’s a big question mark will be his usage.

  16. Hawk says:
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    10 team 5×5 mixed keeper league. Would you drop Marco Estrada for Andrew Cashner? Trying to win this year.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Hawk: No. I like Estrada, a lot of numbers look good, good offense, can pitch deeper into games (Cashner has a lot of short outings when he’s started I believe).

  17. TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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    Great article I own Cingrani in my keeper league but will probably keep him down in my minor league team so I can pull him up next year without having to draft him. My current rotation is: Harvey, Moore, Jose Fernandez, Ryu, Cashner, Morrow and Kyle Kendrick. My recent trade is I traded Price for Bumgarner and Segura. It’s a twelve team h2h category league and I was wondering if I came out on top on this trade. My SS before was Evereth Cabrera. Thanks.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @TobiasFunkeAnalRapist: Well I might take Bumgarner over Price at this point, they’re right at the same level, so I love the trade getting Segura. If in the next month we learn Cingrani will pitch all year as a starter, I would activate him.

  18. The Thumb says:
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    Glad I included him in a package for Stanton last week!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @The Thumb: Wait you lost him, or brought him in?

  19. Splendid Sphincter says:
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    Would you trade Cingrani or Samardjia for Todd Frazier

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Splendid Sphincter: I’ve never been the biggest Todd Frazier fan, but I would give Cingrani up for him if I needed Frazier in a bad position. Wouldn’t trade Samardzja for him.

  20. Steve Wargarble says:
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    Masterson or Cingrani?

    Yahoo H2H std. 10 team

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Steve Wargarble: Cingrani. Even if he gets sent down I think Cingrani + your next pickup if he gets sent down is better than Masterson.

  21. Matt P says:
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    Can I drop Josh Johnson for Cingrani? Aokii? Just picked up McLouth…

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Matt P: I think Cingrani is who you want of those two, I wouldn’t if I felt good about my staff, if I needed upside I make the swap.

  22. Chris says:
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    Quick question for Grey: If you had a choice for 3 keepers for the next five years in the MLB, which three would you take.

    Thank you

    Chris

    • Jon says:
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      @Chris:

      SP- Stras-Kershaw-Moore.

      H-Miggy-Trout-Harper-

  23. ryan whitney says:
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    morrow or cingrani in a hx2 12 team league?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @ryan whitney: Still Morrow. Morrow has the upside too, just started poorly, and his rotation spot is more guaranteed at this point.

  24. Allof says:
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    Gallardo, Villanueva, cingrani, Shelby miller, kennedy. Which 2 would you keep?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Allof: For next year or currently? I’m gonna stick with how they would’ve been entering the year, Gallardo and Kennedy, Miller, Cingrani then Villanueva after. Don’t trust Villanueva in the slightest,

  25. Ragin Cagin says:
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    I think you have to assume Cingrani has some sort of innings limit. He pitched 108 in 2011 and 151 in 2012. It seems that teams are limiting pitchers to the 20% increase in innings rule these days. Cingrani does throw less taxing fastballs and does not have the pedigree, but I am not sure why Cingrani would be treated any differently than other promising young pitchers.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ragin Cagin: I do agree, but a 20% increase gets him to over 180 innings, and he pitches a lot of 5-6 inning games you’d assume, meaning 180-ish innings might be a full season from here on out.

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Good point. However, I the Reds have playoff aspirations. Does this effect how they handle the pitcher? I know the Nats famously shut down Strasburg, however, I think that is a rarity that is done with special talents like Strasburg.

        I see Cingrani pitching 180 innings this season, then the Reds using him in the bullpen during the playoffs.

  26. Allof says:
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    would you start gallardo against the Pirates tonight first pitch in 20 minutes

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Allof: yes

  27. Chris says:
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    Just got proposed carlos santana and matt moore… for slumping kemp and savi perez

    thoughts???

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Chris: I want the Kemp side still. Best player in deal and the slight difference between Perez and Santana is worth gap between Moore and Kemp

  28. Brendan says:
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    I was thinking about trying to trade J.P. Arencibia and Tony Congrani for either David Price or Madison Bumgarner, but now I’m not so sure. Cingrani has better numbers than both those guys! Should I sell high?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Brendan: If you could get either of those deals I’d go for it. Not a huge Arencibia buyer and Cingrani isn’t on the ace level yet like those guys.

  29. Allof says:
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    Who would you rather roster for rest of this year? Andrus or segura

    • Yoenis Mypanis says:
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      @Allof:

      I’d go Andrus

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Allof: I’m not a huge Andrus guy and I love Segura, Sticking with Andrus for now, but in a few weeks might flip flop.

  30. Yoenis Mypanis says:
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    Could you post other pitchers/players in the same tier as Cingrani? I’m trying to see who to shoot for in some trades.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Yoenis Mypanis: Tough to know who to target, or do you mean post more pitcher profiles of guys like Cingrani? Definitely sticking with the hot waiver-wire level guys/rookies for most Pitcher Profiles as they are pitchers most fans have seen the least.

      • Yoenis Mypanis says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        The profile was great and it’s awesome to have a site profiling new, upcoming talent. I was wondering about pitchers on the same tier as Cingrani for potential trades. I have him but the combo of being a rookie/maybe being sent down to the Minors has be worried. I also don’t want to just give him away and watch him continue to have an impactful season. Might be too late for a response but thanks anyways.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Yoenis Mypanis: Never too late! Someone mentioned Matt Cain, I would take Cain. Maybe another starter who is struggling would be a good target, like Cingrani and someone low for Price would be a great deal.

          • Yoenis Mypanis says:
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            @JB Gilpin:

            I’d take either of those guys in a heartbeat over Cingrani. I’ll try for some deals on a few pitchers ranked a little lower.

            Thanks!

          • Yoenis Mypanis says:
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            @JB Gilpin:

            Just had this trade go through:

            Marte, Cingrani & Freese for Ryan Zimmerman & a droppable player

            My 3B was weak and have Arenado & Donaldson to fill in if Zimmerman hits the DL again. My 3 OF’s & 1 UTL BJ Upton, Austin Jackson, Desmond Jennings, Jason Heyward so dealing Marte is ok.

            Thanks for the help

  31. tim says:
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    I was offered matt cain for cingrani straight up. Matt is getting beat up and there seems to be no return. I know it’s april but will it be the Lincecum curse?

    pull the trigger or no?

    daily head to head catagories.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @tim: Definitely taking Cain. Yea he’s getting hit hard but is on the road a ton so far.

  32. James says:
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    Hello, I need some advice on an issue…

    I’m activating Hanley from the DL and I need to drop somebody.. My first inclination is to get rid of alcides Escobar cuz Hanley will be plugged in.

    But I also have Brandon moss, Donaldson ( who I want to keep riding while he’s hot) , And Werth.

    I was also thinking of dropping moss and picking up Aoki

    If I drop alcides and plug Hanley at SS, and drop moss to pick up Aoki would that be a wise upgrade on my team?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @James: Yea I’m good with both of those moves, never been a huge escobar fan

  33. Mike says:
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    Your opinion on the long-term outlook of Julio Teheran for dynasty leagues? Will he eventually round into form or overhyped SP who can’t put away lefties? I thought he developed a new pitch he was using to K lefties in ST what happ? Thanks

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Mike: The times I’ve watched him his fastballs always seem flat to me. Not sure about a new pitch, but I never was too big on him for dynasty leagues. I nabbed him in the last round in redraft leagues as a flier and I’m abandoning ship, still think he needs work.

  34. negahawk says:
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    Great piece. I normally hate asking for trade advice, but this one really has my perplexed.

    His Rizzo for my Cingrani?

    It is a 7×7 head to head and pitching I have Madison, Stras, Hamels, Greinke, and Brett Anderson. 1b, IF, and util i have Goldshmidt, Ike Davis, De Aza, Brett Gardner, and Freese. I am really leaning towards taking the sure thing with rizzo, but it’s a keeper league and I would be able to hold onto Cingrani for a dollar in next year’s auction draft. What do you guys think?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @negahawk: Thanks man! Appreciate you reading. Yea I take Rizzo. Power is harder to find than pitching and there’s no doubting RIzzo’s power.

  35. kendeey says:
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    Would you start Ryu and Hudson vs Colorado and Wash respectively? They’re both at home.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @kendeey: I would start Ryu, probably benching Hud as he has struggled and might be the beginning of the end.

  36. SOP says:
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    what do you think Nolan Arenado for Iwakuma? Sell high on Arenado?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @SOP: I want Iwakuma there. Keeper though… ehhh I’m on the fence. I think Arenado’s power potential might be worth sitting on, but like Iwakuma more this year.

  37. anoraxx says:
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    Just traded Cingrani and Jim Henderson for BJ Upton and Homer Bailey. Say whatever you want, Cingrani isnt second-coming of Jesus in any form so I am more than happy for anyone whos buying.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @anoraxx: 1) Cingrani may indeed be the second coming 2) That deal is a steal regardless, I think anyone would do that. Nice selling high!

  38. brad says:
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    20K/BB last week is insane!!!!!!
    & Of course I have him in my KEEPER LEAGUEsS

    • brad says:
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      you on twitter ?JB Gilpin
      kudos on the article!

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @brad: Yup, @jbgilpin haha. Clever I know… Yup unreal ratio those last two games. Hoping and thinking it can somewhat keep it!

  39. Oz says:
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    I just wanna say I picked him up on April 7th, when everyone else told me he wouldn’t be in Cincy’s rotation at all this year… So happy I picked him up, he might come back down to Earth but I’m enjoying the ride so far.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Oz: I saw him getting into the rotation, but not this soon. Nice pick up! I still was able to nab him in most leagues the second I heard Cueto left his start, and enjoying the ride as well!

      • Oz says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Hey JB, who’s the next guy u think gets called up? I’m in a points h2h dynasty league and SP are SUPER competitive (there’s never a SP available owned in more than 2% of standard leagues.) I’m following Zach Lee and Archie Bradley very closely, but I had heard on rotoworld a week or so ago that Carlos Martinez of Stl might get called up. Who should I hold on to if I got a roster spot? The Obvious guys like Tallion/Cole etc are already owned and stashed (I already own/stashed Dylan Bundy.) Thanks!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Oz: Well I think Scott Evans, the prospect guru, might know better than me… Like all the guys mentioned, I like Lee the best though as I think he’s closest to the majors.

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Oz: i think that beat me, i gave away k’s one week by picking him up late on a sat right before end of week. Right when Cueto got hurt.

  40. royce! says:
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    Posted a Q about McCarthy in Grey’s post and Jack Full of Hate suggested I ask you…My Q: WTF is up with McCarthy? His peripherals (k/9, bb/9, xFIP) are around his regular rates but it seems that every non-fastball is getting creamed… So…Jam It or Cram It?! JK. Any thoughts on McCarthy?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @royce!: Glad I’m getting recommended! Hah. I am going to JAM IT (haha it was funny trying to take that on in the pod) that McCarthy is going to struggle most of the year. I think I got that right, but anyway, I think McCarthy is in for a brutal Summer. He’s throwing more change-ups and less curveballs. What my big concern is 3 straight years of pretty significant line-drive % increase AND HR/FB ratio. Not minuscule either (LD% 20.9% (2011) -26% (so far this year) and HR/FB 6.4-9.7%. Add that into a hitter’s park instead of a pitcher’s park as his home stadium and I’m worried.

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      @Longbeachyo: Yea but Cingrani’s curve looked the best it had been and the change-up will improve, at least I’m hoping as a Cingrani owner! I think 170-180 innings isn’t out of the realm of possibilities, and as I mentioned above to someone, he has to throw so many pitches to get through 5-6 innings sometimes, so that could keep him in the rotation all year. More worried about him keeping his spot from other pitchers than an innings limit. Thanks for reading again man!

  41. MisterLR says:
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    Great profile. I grabbed Cingrani before his first start in my 12 team mixed H2H league. After his Nats start a guy offered me Freese straight up for him. I countered by asking for Alex Gordon. He countered with Pence. I countered with Lawrie. He accepted. Ike Davis is who Lawrie will replace. Thoughts?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @MisterLR: Love the deal. Lawrie has great upside and my continued hesitance on if Cingrani is in the rotation all year makes it a great move.

      • MisterLR says:
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        JB, yeah, I thought it was a good one what with the uncertainty. The move doesn’t go through until Sunday, so I hope he shuts down the Cubs on his way out the door. Keep up the great work!

  42. Peter says:
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    So I’ve been offered Cingrani and a 3rd round pick next year for Wil Myers and my 6th round pick next year in a 12 team keeper league. Thoughts?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Peter: How many keepers? i.e. how valuable is a 3rd round pick? If it’s double-digit keepers I probably don’t do that, like Myers a lot more as a fantasy asset for the duration.

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