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The big fellah is back!  And um, I don’t mean me…

In one of my most anticipated starts in the past few months, James Paxton returned from the DL, immediately unleashed back into the Mariners rotation.  No Taijuan Walker waffling for you!  Paxton looked dreamier than my Andrew Heaney [what turned out to be] nightmare in his first two starts way back in April, flashing high-90s heat with an unhittable breaking ball.

The big Canadian had some bumps on Saturday (spoiler alert!), including a comebacker off the leg and said he wouldn’t be very Canadian if he left.  Super Canadian!  Dudley Do Right!  Sporting a huge maple leaf tattoo on his forearm, I think his blood type is syrup.  Bring me those Taijuan Walker waffles!

I’ve pushed Paxton hard in the ranks the past month, so I decided to break down his return pitch-by-pitch to see how much I think he can contribute in the final two months:

First Inning: Paxton’s first pitch back in the Majors is a 93 MPH fastball to Nick Markakis off the plate.  1-0 94 fastball is in the dirt outside, 2-0.  He’s got an uber-smooth delivery but missing early.  Then he ramps up 95 MPH on the outside corner for strike one, 95 is low, then 95 again that looked good to me at the knees is called a ball for a leadoff walk.  Not a great start, but shaking some rust.  First two pitches were bad, but he’s looked good past that.  Manny Machado takes 95 low and in, 94 is in there – all fastballs so far – then his first off-speed is a hanging change-up on the inside edge and it’s ripped down the third base line for a double.  Markakis moves to third, and it’s early trouble.  Up is Adam Jones who I guess sat dead red fastball and looked ridiculous on Paxton’s first curveball.

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Whew-ee!  Then a fastball on the hands at 96 gets a weak grounder to Robinson Cano, and it’s so slow that Cano can only get the out at first.  So a run in for the Orioles, one out – runner at third, and Nelson Cruz takes a 95 MPH fastball for a strike, and then Paxton’s second curveball at 83 makes Cruz look equally ridiculous.

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Oh man, those were the first two curves of the game!  Plus up at 96 already with the fastball.  Drool.  Then 83 curveball again, it hops into Jesus Sucre‘s mitt as Cruz swings through it missing by a foot and it’s a huge three pitch K against one of the league’s best hitters this year.  Wow.  Fastball at 95 is perfect on the outside lower corner for strike one on Delmon Young, curveball is dribbled foul, another curve fouled off, 96 MPH fastball is slashed foul into the first base camera well, still 0-2 and curve is low, change-up at 87 is spiked at about 57 feet 2-2 – great save by Sucre or else Machado scores – another change is spiked to make it full, and the 8th pitch of the AB is a curveball at 83 that just dies into the dirt and gets Young swinging.  What a bounce back from Paxton even though he has no feel for the change-up right now.

Second Inning: Despite a long inning and the Mariners getting the bases loaded, Paxton is still down 1-0 and starts J.J. Hardy with a fastball way inside and in, then is barely low, 2-0 fastball gets the outside corner at 93, 93 again is right down the middle but taken, then 96 in a perfect spot at the knees on the outside corner gets chopped to short, but Chris Taylor charging in throws it away despite making a clean pick.  It wasn’t hit hard, and the BS home field scorer gives Hardy a hit even though if the throw was on the money he was out by a step.  Paxton pitched well that AB even using only fastballs, but gets screwed.  Fastball at 95 is way high to Steve Pearce 1-0, I hope Paxton isn’t going to overthrow now, but 93 is right back at the knees to even it up 1-1.  Again at the knees at 95 is fouled off, 96 outside is fouled off, then yet another change-up is spiked to make it 2-2.  Really has nothing with that pitch at all.  Then Paxton sort of lackadaisically throws a pickoff to check Hardy – it was one of those slow motion throw overs not a fast pickoff move – and it’s way off the mark moving Hardy to second on Paxton’s error.  That was no bueno.  Curveball bends low and inside on Pearce to make it 3-2, fastball at the letters fouled, fastball outside pulled on the ground foul, and finally a fastball is grounded to third to get the first out.  First pitch fastball to Caleb Joseph at 95 is rocketed back to the mound, and if you read the intro, this is the one that pounds Paxton on the back of the leg – maybe bottom of the hamstring – but the big Canadian takes it like a cross check and makes the play at first.  Hard contact there, Paxton obviously feels it, but after some practice tosses is ready to go.  Two outs, and a first-pitch curveball is hung outside for ball one to Jonathan Schoop, 96 on the hands fisted foul, 95 low, 96 low and inside, and 96 again is low and inside for a walk.  That last pitch wasn’t awful and was closer, but definitely a ball.  Runners at the corners in what has turned into a really long inning, and after a quick meeting on the mound Paxton throws a perfect 96 MPH fastball to get ahead of Markakis, 0-1.  93 is a smidge low, curveball in the dirt, 96 is in there, then 91 on the outside corner – seemed like maybe a cutter, it would’ve been his slowest fastball – is looped to left and looks like a single, but Dustin Ackley charges in and catches it sliding towards the infield.  Great play there and it hung up just enough.

Third Inning: The Mariners tie it up, and after two pretty eventful innings, Paxton is ready for a quickie (who isn’t?!).  94 is perfect on the outside black to Machado 0-1, definitely a cutter at 91 bends to the knees to get up 0-2, but a curveball at 82 is hung in the top of the zone and Machado hits it well to right center for an easy single.  Might have been Paxton’s worst pitch thus far – at least the most hittable.  95 is low to Adam Jones, 96 is barely low 2-0, 94 on the inside third is absolutely rocketed foul down the third base line, then 95 on the inside lower black is grounded to short for a tailor made double play.  That was as easy as they get, and it’s two outs.  97 runs inside and high to Cruz, wow – 96 on the knees looks perfect but I guess is called low 2-0 – 97 on the hands eats Cruz up for a tip foul, and Paxton really finding the velo now.  Sheesh, 98 that looked perfect on the inside corner is called a ball (98 though!), 97 on the outside corner is fouled back, then here comes the cheese – 98 on the outside corner is swung through and missed for Paxton’s second strikeout of Cruz – this time on all fastballs.

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How smooth is that delivery for 98!  Somebody tell Yordano Ventura that high-velocity fastballs can be thrown low-intensity!

Fourth Inning: Still a 1-1 game, and Paxton is low to Young, then a cutter in the upper black is grounded weakly to short, two pitches one out.  Paxton needs a bunch of those.  Hardy takes a perfect fastball at 96 on the knees, cutter way inside evens it up, zone pounded again at 95 1-2, then Paxton hits 98 on the gun again in a perfect spot barely off the outside black, 2-2.

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Perfect location up 1-2.  Then I’m breaking my usual four-GIFs rule to show you the follow up pitch, an 83 MPH curveball that looks like it starts in the same spot, and gets Hardy looking silly swinging at it for Paxton’s 4th K.

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Nasty – he gone gone chasin’ waterfalls!  96 at the letters is fouled back by Pearce, 98 low, whew 97 on the outside edge barely nipped foul, great curveball that would’ve bent in the zone is tipped foul – that started way high and outside and dropped in – then another curveball with a similar break goes a few inches lower and Pearce swings through it for K number 5.

Fifth Inning: Already at 71 pitches, Paxton hits the outside edge at 94 for strike one on Joseph, cutter at 90 dips low, 95 outside, then 95 again is a fastball that runs across the plate from down the middle to slightly inside, and Joseph rips it for a homer barely fair down the left field line.  Awesome hitting there – it was a laser and could’ve easily bent foul and might’ve stayed in the park in Safeco.  Hoping to rebound, Paxton gets 96 in there to Schoop, fastball again low, heater again at 96 on the lower part of the plate and inside gets an easy grounder, one down.  Cutter is in there to Markakis, then a curveball is hung and almost hits Markakis in the head.  Might be the end of the line.  But maybe not as 97 looked perfect on the outside corner but called low – good to see the high velocity late – 96 is just off the plate, then 95 is skipped in the dirt on the outside edge and Paxton’s third walk of the night is his last batter and he’s taken out.  But a great outing, and very encouraging.

Final Line:  ND  4.1 IP  83 Pitches (48 Strikes)  2 ER  4 Hits  3 Walks  5 K  Gamescore: 49  Gamescore+: 58

Final Analysis: The end line wasn’t all that encouraging.  Sure the Ks are nice, but obviously you want your starters going deeper and the walks were sadface.  However, after really breaking down this start, I’m more encouraged than I thought I’d be.  The first inning had some early trouble to fight through, Hardy got a home-field scorer aided single that should’ve been an out and prolonged an inning, and he got stung hard by a comebacker in his hamstring yet still built up higher velocity afterwards.  Since my Gamescore+ bears no weight on how deep a starter goes (the original Gamescore awards two points per inning completed after the 4th), plus the really unlucky hit along with nice Ks, Paxton scored favorably in my Gamescore+ calculation.

It obviously all starts with the fastball, usually around 95 but he ramped it up to 98.  And it’s a smooth delivery fastball too – I think adding to the deception of its speed.  I want to mention here that a few weeks ago I had some good banter with commenter goodfold, where he disagreed with my thought that smooth mechanics doesn’t equate to lesser injury risk as opposed to unconventional mechanics.  Paxton looks really low-stress with those monster fastballs, but we’ve already seen him miss over three months straining his lat.  So I do worry a bit about another injury given how hard he’s throwing and we’ve seen him hurt before.  But back to his arsenal, Paxton also threw a handful of cutters at 90-91; while not the most consistent, they’ll definitely help him keep hitters off the heat.  Paxton just had nothing with his change-up though in this start.  All were at 87 and one was hung to Machado for the first-inning double, then I think the 4-5 after that were spiked at 57-58 feet.  He hasn’t used them often through his first three outings this year, but hopefully he can re-find that one.  Then it’s to the monster secondary pitch – that ridiculous curveball.  With huge 10/11 t0 5/4 break, it sweeps across the zone at around 83 for a very powerful putaway bender.

Standing 6’4 220 (according to his player card, definitely looks like he ate a few extra poutines while injured), Paxton is a monster out there and looks taller too.  I love the low-stress delivery, not because of perceived lesser injury risk but because of the deception of his fastball velocity.  It looks like he’s lumbering in there and next thing you know 98 zips past you.  Pitching in one of the Majors’ best pitcher parks, I’m all in on Paxton and he’ll be a major sleeper for me next year.  I think he’s an obvious must own, and really excited to see how he closes out the season.  I’m not worried about an innings limit given his time off, but I am a little worried he gets babied and shut down if he has any health issues – no matter how minor.  As much as I wanted to move him to the high-30s (he still cracked my top 40), he’s looking like a monster under-the-radar asset in dynasties.

Razzball Baseball

JB’s Updated Top 100 SP

(rankings based on 12-team Roto, and from this point to the end of season – green for risers, red for fallers.  New indexing key – IL = innings limit concern, WD = wear down concern)

RANK SP, TEAM
1 Clayton Kershaw, Los Angeles Dodgers
2 Yu Darvish, Texas Rangers
3 Felix Hernandez, Seattle Mariners
4 Chris Sale, Chicago White Sox
5 David Price, Detroit Tigers
6 Adam Wainwright, St. Louis Cardinals
7 Johnny Cueto, Cincinnati Reds
8 Madison Bumgarner, San Francisco Giants
9 Max Scherzer, Detroit Tigers
10 Zack Greinke, Los Angeles Dodgers
11 Cole Hamels, Philadelphia Phillies
12 Stephen Strasburg, Washington Nationals
13 Jon Lester, Oakland Athletics
14 Corey Kluber, Cleveland Indians
15 Hisashi Iwakuma, Seattle Mariners
16 Scott Kazmir, Oakland Athletics (WD)
17 Julio Teheran, Atlanta Braves
18 Jordan Zimmermann, Washington Nationals
19 Jake Arrieta, Chicago Cubs (IL)
20 Garrett Richards, Los Angeles Angels (WD)
21 Jeff Samardzija, Oakland Athletics
22 Alex Cobb, Tampa Bay Rays
23 Gio Gonzalez, Washington Nationals
24 Mat Latos, Cincinnati Reds
25 Homer Bailey, Cincinnati Reds
26 Sonny Gray, Oakland Athletics (WD)
27 Tyson Ross, San Diego Padres (WD)
28 Alex Wood, Atlanta Braves
29 Anibal Sanchez, Detroit Tigers
30 Hyun-Jin Ryu, Los Angeles Dodgers
31 Tim Hudson, San Francisco Giants
32 James Shields, Kansas City Royals
33 Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers
34 Jered Weaver, Los Angeles Angels
35 Doug Fister, Washington Nationals
36 Rick Porcello, Detroit Tigers
37 James Paxton, Seattle Mariners
38 Jose Quintana, Chicago White Sox
39 Chris Archer, Tampa Bay Rays
40 Yordano Ventura, Kansas City Royals (IL/WD)
41 Wily Peralta, Milwaukee Brewers
42 Lance Lynn, St. Louis Cardinals
43 Tanner Roark, Washington Nationals
44 Marcus Stroman, Toronto Blue Jays (IL)
45 Kyle Lohse, Milwaukee Brewers
46 Zach Wheeler, New York Mets
47 Jesse Hahn, San Diego Padres (IL)
48 Wade Miley, Arizona Diamondbacks
49 Kevin Gausman, Baltimore Orioles (IL)
50 Ervin Santana, Atlanta Braves
51 Jacob deGrom, New York Mets (IL)
52 Alfredo Simon, Cincinnati Reds
53 Francisco Liriano, Pittsburgh Pirates
54 Mark Buehrle, Toronto Blue Jays
55 Jake Odorizzi, Tampa Bay Rays (WD)
56 Ryan Vogelsong, San Francisco Giants
57 Collin McHugh, Houston Astros
58 Yovani Gallardo, Milwaukee Brewers
59 Dallas Keuchel, Houston Astros
60 Matt Garza, Milwaukee Brewers
61 Danny Duffy, Kansas City Royals (IL/WD)
62 Mike Leake, Cincinnati Reds
63 Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants
64 Andrew Cashner, San Diego Padres
65 Jimmy Nelson, Milwaukee Brewers
66 Mike Minor, Atlanta Braves
67 Trevor Bauer, Cleveland Indians
68 C.J. Wilson, Los Angeles Angels
69 Ian Kennedy, San Diego Padres
70 Hiroki Kuroda, New York Yankees
71 Drew Smyly, Tampa Bay Rays
72 Phil Hughes, Minnesota Twins
73 Aaron Harang, Atlanta Braves
74 Shelby Miller, St. Louis Cardinals
75 Dillon Gee, New York Mets
76 Jake Peavy, St. Louis Cardinals
77 Henderson Alvarez, Miami Marlins
78 Bartolo Colon, New York Mets
79 Jason Hammel, Oakland Athletics
80 R.A. Dickey, Toronto Blue Jays
81 John Lackey, St. Louis Cardinals
82 Danny Salazar, Cleveland Indians
83 Jon Niese, New York Mets
84 Matt Shoemaker, Los Angeles Angels
85 Michael Wacha, St. Louis Cardinals
86 Nathan Eovaldi, Miami Marlins
87 Drew Hutchison, Toronto Blue Jays (IL)
88 Tom Koehler, Miami Marlins
89 Chase Anderson, Arizona Diamondbacks (IL)
90 Rubby De La Rosa, Boston Red Sox (IL)
91 Jason Vargas, Kansas City Royals
92 Charlie Morton, Pittsburgh Pirates
93 Gerrit Cole, Pittsburgh Pirates
94 Tyler Skaggs, Los Angeles Angels (WD)
95 Roenis Elias, Seattle Mariners
96 Chris Tillman, Baltimore Orioles
97 A.J. Burnett, Philadelphia Phillies
98 Josh Beckett, Los Angeles Dodgers
99 Clay Buchholz, Boston Red Sox
100 Jeff Locke, Pittsburgh Pirates

Dropped Out: Cliff Lee, Philadelphia Phillies (elbow), Jesse Chavez, Oakland Athletics (bullpen after trade fest 2014), Odrisamer Despaigne, San Diego Padres (why he was barely cracked in!)

  • Whew, fun time!  Trade deadline certainly shook up SP more than any other position.  Break up the A’s!
  • Gloat time!  Kluber!  Porcello!  Anyone remember the comments when I was pumping those two hardcore in May last year?  Schweet.
  • Un-gloat time!  Remember when I had Strasburg #3 beginning of the season?  Oops.
  • I had a great comment last week comparing Brandon McCarthy and Justin Masterson.  Neither are in my top 100 still – not enough trust even with Masterson moving to the NL.
  • Geez is Tyson Ross on a roll.  Still gets a WD [40!] as he’s well over a career-high in ML innings.
  • Wow, did the Tigers absolutely chew up the Rockies!  David Price hasn’t even debuted yet!  Nice to see some Ks and a dominant outing from Anibal; wish I didn’t move him down that drastically last week.
  • Six walks from Duffy and now 11 in his last three.  Like Ross, he’s at a career-high in innings in the Majors and if he keeps struggling with his control, I could see the Royals shutting him down if (when) they’re out if it.
  • Speaking of walks, Ian Kennedy now with 5 in each of his last two starts, and 17 in his last four.
  • Gerrit Cole’s bullpen session didn’t sound like it went well and he’s still without a timetable. I think he’ll be back before Wacha, but he certainly doesn’t have the upside when both are on the bump.
  • Lord help me, but Garza has been awesome since the beginning of June in all but the one start at Washington when I was in attendance.  I’m the Graza hex!
  • All out on Minor, but even so, it’s hard to move him lower even with his next start being skipped.  The pitchers once you hit the Lynn through Wheeler group all have issues.

Dost thou share my Paxton love?  Thoughts on the ranks?  As always, fill out all comments/criticisms in form 108-B and happy pitching!

  1. Paul says:
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    Had the same takeaway on Cole. Would you stash Wacha over Cole, with the hope that he comes back for a gem or two in the championship/semi round?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Paul: Yup, I would definitely stash Wacha over Cole I think your logic is right on with my thoughts.

  2. chris says:
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    Great read! Picked up Paxton couple weeks ago… stuck him on my DL and just recently dropped Beckett to make room.

    I am in the playoffs now, you think Gausman or Paxton have keeper all over them? Over guys like Verlander? I’m obviously keeping Kershaw and Strausburg.

    I also have Cain and Heaney on waiver worth a pick up?

    My staff below
    Fister, Doug(SP) WAS
    Kershaw, Clayton(SP) LAD
    Morton, Charlie(SP) PIT
    Odorizzi, Jake(SP) TB
    Strasburg, Stephen(SP) WAS
    Cishek, Steve(RP) MIA
    Doolittle, Sean(RP) OAK

    Gausman, Kevin(RP,SP) BAL
    Paxton, James(SP) SEA
    Verlander, Justin(SP) DET

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @chris: Thanks man! All things equal, I might Fister over Paxton too, but close. Verlander is close too just because Paxton has some injury concern. Eh, screw it, I’m all in on Paxton! I’ll go him, Fister, Verlander, Gausman as keepers, but Doolittle is right there too. I’d let Cain and Heaney stay on the wire for now.

  3. Grey

    Grey says:
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    Nice post, JB! Good to hear there was some positive takeaways from his start, cause the stat line didn’t look pretty…

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Grey: Thanks boss! Yeah it didn’t, but I think the comebacker and the what should have been error both prolonged the outing/gave him a mini-injury so he could’ve gone deeper. Pumped for him ROS!

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Nice!

  4. Joe says:
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    5×5, 12-team, H2H, non keeper. Who are your top 3 ROS from the group below and in what order would you rank them?

    J-Zim, Gio, Bailey, Anibal, Roark, Wheeler, Garza

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Joe: Well I’d use my ranks so I’d go JZ, Gio, Bailey

      • Joe says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Would you believe I was so excited to see JB was around and fielding comments that I missed the entire post? Shame on me, but take it as a compliment to your sage advice!

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Joe: Haha no problem at all man, thanks!

  5. hifi says:
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    Hi JB, sell Tanaka based on the good-ish news today, or hold and hope?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @hifi: Yeah I think I would try to sell if you can get big value in a dynasty/keeper, or virtually anything in a redraft

  6. troy says:
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    Great stuff as always jb. I am shocked u have kennedy so low though. 3.6 era 1.23 whip and over 9.6 k/9 this guy has been healthy and downright filthy for much of the season. Gladly take him over guys like miley wheeler voglsong Leake Nelson gausman even quintana. Just curious why ur so low on him. (I mean only one spot ahead of kuroda!! Lol)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @troy: Thanks man! Haha on Kuroda… Yeah the walks lately as I mention in my notes and I’ve always been a little scared. I like the park, peripherals still look good, but to go from 30 walks in 20 games to 13 in your last 3… A little worrisome…

      • troy says:
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        @JB Gilpin: yea I saw that in the comments, figured that had a lot to do with it. But still think 69 is very low. In my opinion of course. People don’t flock to read my opinions or input though lol

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @troy: Haha well I dunno if they flock here either, but a good start with few walks and he def moves up! Always appreciate you droppin by!

          • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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            @JB Gilpin: quintana’s numbers are wonderful. he doesn’t walk 5 guys a game.

  7. hifi says:
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    are you concerned that Wainwright is injured? his K/BB has not been elite.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @hifi: A little bit – had the elbow issue earlier and seems to be wearing down a little. I’ve consistently had him top 3 most of the year, so down to 6 now certainly expresses a little concern, I might be selling if I could get anyone in my top 5

  8. Cram It says:
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    In on Paxton. Agreed on that Hardy “hit” that, 1st should have been an out, then should have been an error. And that comebacker off the leg had to have some residual effect. His hard fall-off-the-table curve is pretty sharp.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Cram It: Yezzir! He looked awesome, if he can have an average change-up working too, whew-ee!

  9. The Thumb says:
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    Hey JB, due to a series of DL activation and BAEZ! I have to drop 3(!) from my team. Steals, runs, and avg

    C – Lucroy
    1B – Papi
    2b – Gyorko
    SS – Andrus
    3b – Beltre
    MI – Escobar
    CI – Arenado
    OF – Jones
    OF – Beltran
    OF – Calhoun
    Util – Duda
    Util – Dickerson
    Bn – CarGonz (i hate him so much…, can’t believe I traded Sale for him back in May)
    Bn – Bruce (ditto, but at least he steals bases)
    Bn – Rajai
    NA – BAEZ! (sadly only SS eligible)

    Salazar
    Paxton
    Hahn
    For reference, my other pitchers are Stras, Teheran, Gray, Cobb and i have about 400 innings left

    Hahn’s a goner after his start against the Twins, due to schedule/playing time. I figure the other two are Duda and Alcides?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @The Thumb: damn, it’s like Sophie’s Choice for your team! Unfortunately I’m with you on Hahn even though I like him a lot. So by dropping Alcides you have no MI right (with no Baez up yet). I’d try to hold Duda too. I’d cut Hahn, Salazar, and eek I guess Alcides too then!

      • The Thumb says:
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        @JB Gilpin: BAEZ! is up though!

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @The Thumb: What what what?!?!! Haha I’m sometimes oblivious to non-pitchers! Just read it too now, yup very easily is Alcides as a drop then too. Cubs might actually be a tough team to beat sometime soon…

          • The Thumb says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Debuts in Coors too, so maybe 3 for 12, 3 homers, 9 Ks?

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @The Thumb: Hahaha, very likely!

          • troy says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Bryant can’t be far behind right?

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @troy: I’ve always been under the impression he’s not coming up until next year, but the Cubs could surprise! Definitely deserves to be up, has everything to so with all those service clock clauses and shizz.

  10. hifi says:
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    Hey JB, do you think Darvish plays through the fantasy playoffs? wondering if I shoudl try to deal him for 2 top 15 guys (like Greinke/Lester). concerned that b/c the Rangers have nothing to play for they might call up young arms and Darvish might not be ultra reliable during playoffs.

    is this nonsense? if you were trying to win it all do you want Darvish period?

    • The Thumb says:
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      @hifi: i’d definitely do Darvish for Lester and Greinke if it were possible

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @hifi: Well I would still want and love having Darvish going for a title. But you make a good point, and I agree with @The Thumb: if I could get two top 15 like the two you suggest, I would definitely do that. I wouldn’t undersell though for like… Greinke and Kuroda or some bad throw in haha.

        • The Thumb says:
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          @JB Gilpin: oh i was just saying that if i were him and Lester/Greinke were offered to me for Darvish, I’d pounce on it

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @The Thumb: Yup and I was agreeing!

    • hifi says:
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      @hifi: slightly different, but what about Darvish and Ross for Felix and Lester?

      • hifi says:
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        @hifi: thinking about Ross’s wear down…

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @hifi: I like that one even more! I like Felix almost the same as Darvish and Lester well over Ross, so I would love that deal if it can get done!

  11. Shawn of The Livid says:
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    Nice one JB, I’m a Pax fan too. Have him on all teams. I haven’t had much time lately for fantasy baseball!!!! Hence no pestering comments. But I do read through Greys stuff and your profiles, can’t miss that!

    I held on Kluber but let go of Porcello everywhere. My loss I guess but he was just too iffy for too long and I got decent fill ins, so what ev. Great call though, and kudos for standing your ground.

    Look forward to the next one, thanks man!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Shawn of The Livid: Baseball is definitely a big time drain! But gotta love it! Never been any pestering! (cough, John of the blending in) Glad you were able to stop by!

      Thanks on Porcello! Those are my main guys. Kluber had early rough patches, Porcello some mid-season ones, but both held on – Kluber vaulting on lists everywhere. Thanks again!

      • Shawn of The Livid says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah seriously, I can’t believe how good Kluber has been

        If I’m not at least a little pestering I’m not doing something right! I’m supposed to be Livid god damn it!

        It’s just been harder for me to be a critic because I generally agree with almost all your ranks! AHEM!!! ~clears throat~, You’re too low on Kennedy!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Shawn of The Livid: Haha true! Yup seems my Kennedy downgrade is stirring up the masses! Worried about those walks and thinking he might be wearing down a bit even though he’s a vet in Petco… I dunno we shall see!

  12. Paul says:
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    Used up most of my waivers this week shuffling for injuries and have 2 grabs left to stream against an opponent with 3 more starts than me. League tracks QS, W, Ks, WHIP, and ERA …

    I was planning to drop Casilla to stream Salazar (v. Cin), then drop either or Salazar or Ventura to stream 1 of Odorizzi (v. Cubs) / McHugh (v. PHI) / Worley (v. SD) – but is the smarter play to forgo Salazar and get 2 starts from Morton (MIA/SD)? (a little concerned about his recent slow down)

    Thanks as always!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Paul: I’m worried about Morton too, and also want to note SD led NL in runs after All Star Break. So Both he and Worley worry me. I’d do the Salazar/McHugh combo.

      Any time!

      • Paul says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Cool – thanks! Didn’t realize that about SD. Clearly it’s all about my round 8 pick Gyorko.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Paul: Haha the line-up is unstoppable with the sub .200 Gyroko! Solarte playing over his head has been huge too haha

  13. Joe says:
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    Jb would you trade Adrián gonzalez and jesse Hhan for Yu darvish?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Joe: Yup! I would do that in probably all scenarios.

  14. Ante GALIC says:
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    JB!

    Really nice write-up. Gr8 insight again. I dropped Cole to pick up Paxton in my re-draft league. Maybe Paxton provides that missing piece of the puzzle to take me to the promised land. Will definitely let you know how it works out.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Thanks man! Yup, I totally buy that move as well and think he could be huge. I’m cheering for him to take me to the promised land as well!

  15. Clint says:
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    JB, has Arrieta reached must start territory or would you stay away from Coors tomorrow even w/him at the helm?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Clint: Whewwwwww good question… I think I’m starting him if you don’t have any innings cap concerns, especially after what the Tigers did to the Rockies over the weekend. 10 Ks for Porcello?! Coldddddd offense.

      • longbeachyo says:
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        @JB Gilpin: AHHHHH! So much for cold offense… I’m going for a record ERA this week. Miley, Teheran and Arrieta, oh my!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @longbeachyo: Haha sorry man! Regression fairies and the thin air got him… I actually have both Arrieta and Teheran as well in a league where I’m above my innings and sat Arrieta but Teheran crapped it too! Crazy week…

  16. goodfold2 says:
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    my disagreement hadn’t to do with “smooth mechanics doesn’t equate to lesser injury risk as opposed to unconventional mechanics”, but that your pointing out that matt moore (so called smooth mechanics guy) having to get TJ in anyway had to do with wood/sale (guys with unconventional mechanics) being a higher risk to get injured or not. it’s entirely possible that these two supposed classes of pitchers have the same level of risk to get injured, but whether or not that’s true has nothing to do with showing matt moore needed TJ. the answer to whether or not sale/wood (and their ilk) do or don’t have a higher level of injury risk simply has different truth conditions than whether or not “smooth delivery” guys have a lower one.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @goodfold2: Sure I think I follow what you’re saying, but I think we’re both arguing some circular logic. I wasn’t calling Moore’s injury a bedrock principle, just a counter-point to different mechanics mean injuries. I feel like we’re in a master debate class! I’m a master debater!

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @JB Gilpin: in that post from 2 weeks ago you appeared to be using moore’s TJ (even though he has smooth mechanics) as evidence to further your point that you weren’t worried about wood and his funky mechanics making him more likely than other pitchers to get injured. i’m just saying moore getting hurt has nothing to do with the likelihood of wood (and other guys like sale etc) getting hurt.

        in any case i most certainly am disputing that Minor should be anywhere near mid 60’s. you say you don’t know how you could move him any lower, i say i don’t know how you’d have him that high. He himself admitted he “sucks” (which i’ve never even heard of a pitcher saying about himself)

        • JB Gilpin

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          @goodfold2: Agree, it was just a counter-point not anything concrete.

          I did the ranks before knowing he was getting skipped a turn, so he’ll move down a little more, but 2012 he was horrific in the first half and good in the second half (in particular a dominant 2012 Sept.) and his velo is the same. Still a chance he can be useful down the stretch.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @JB Gilpin: was he this bad in 2012? i bet you ain’t gonna let him prove useful in your lineup.

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @goodfold2: yeah he was about this bad, but sure I’d certainly sit him in 14 teams or deeper but I’d hold in those.

  17. Cram It says:
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    My pitcher authority….I’m shopping Dee Gordon around for an SP. All my SP #’s are towards the top 3rd of the standings but my wins are near the bottom. Can you give me a range/lowest guy you’d take for Dee?

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      @Cram It: Never mind! I was able to get Sale.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Cram It: Nice! Total win there!

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