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Rudy’s been dropping a bunch of fantasy baseball strategy posts lately.  Here’s one on how to split up your hitting and pitching.  And here’s one looking at the consequences of showing up to your draft ten minutes late.  As for my strategy posts, they’re timeless — so I recycle ‘em.  For most of you, been here, read this shizz already, but there’s Razzball newbies (Razzbabies?) that need some coddling occasionally.  If you know PEDS, skip ahead into the comments and discuss innovative uses for my mustache.  I’ll start, “If you get really close to me, you can use my mustache as an umbrella.”  For the Razzbabies, come here and let Uncle Grey burp you.  Maybe I can get you to spit up everything you learned at ESPN.  Fantasy baseball strategies are as old as the earth, if the earth were ten or so years old.  There’s a LIMA Plan (Low Investment Mound Aces) by Ron Shandler.  There’s been a ZIMA Plan by Matthew Berry; it involves a lot of stumbling around, groping and the hiccups.  There’s been a Punt One Category draft strategy.  There’s been a Punt Two Categories draft strategy, which was conceived by a leaguemate of Punt One Category who just couldn’t stand being upstaged. And there’s the Forget When Your Draft Is So Your Team Is Autodrafted strategy.  I love when my leaguemates use that one.  Then there’s my fantasy baseball snake draft strategy, Performance Enhancing Draft Strategy or PEDS.  (You might even want to use this strategy for our Razzball leagues.  Join now.  Thank you.)

PEDS has five basic steps.  If you follow these steps, you will place near the top in all of your leagues.  No plan is foolproof because, unfortunately, they still have to play the games, but PEDS puts you in the best position possible to win coming out of your draft.  Actually, this plan is foolproof and you should ignore the previous sentence that said no plan is foolproof.  No sentence is foolproof, that’s more accurate. Okay, onto the steps:

1. Never draft a pitcher with your first two picks.

No Kershaw.  No Darvish.  No Sidd Finch.  You abstain!  They’re fantastic.  I love them all.  I’d eat sushi off their nipples.  I’d go to a drive-in theater with any of them and neck for a solid two hours even if the movie is only an hour and forty minutes long.  Unless it was 12 Years A Slave, then that’s just disrespectful.  Though, I will say that movie felt more like 16 and a half years.  These starters give you the value of a 1st or 2nd rounder.  They do.  I said it.  Sue me!  (Good luck winning that lawsuit — haHA!)  The problem is the loss of one of your 1st two hitters is really difficult to bounce back from.  You, son, are putting yourself in a hole.  A hole?  Yes, you are.  The absence of Goldschmidt or McCutchen or who(m)ever is too great.

2. Never take a top-tier closer.

This is a tough one for some people.  I’m going to be you for a brief moment.  Me as you, “Hey, everyone’s starting to take closers in the fifth round.  There goes Kimbrel, Kenley, Aroldis… Wait, I have to take a closer with my next pick, too!  And where are my pants?!  For the Lord’s sake, why don’t I have pants on?!”  See what happened there?  You done got swept up.  You did.  You got swept up in a closer run.  Ignore everyone who takes closers. You don’t need a top tier one.  Stick to your own game plan.  Grab some schmohawks later that will get saves because, as we all know, SAGNOF.

3. Have your offense squared away before the final rounds and never take an offensive bench player unless it’s a flyer with massive potential (like George Springer, for instance).

This rule has been slightly adjusted from previous years.  Let’s call it the Mike Trout Effect Or Is It Affect?  The MTEOIIA is telling you it’s okay to grab a hitter for your bench if he has boat-tons of potential and could end up being worth a lot more than his draft value.  This addendum could’ve also been called the Bryce Harper Effect Or Is It Affect or BHEOIIA.  Or it could’ve been called the Wil Myers Effect Or Is It Affect or WMEOIIA.  WMEOIIA is also the most powerful talent agent after they all merged.  As for grabbing a guy like Ben Revere for your bench? Belch. I burp at you.  I get gas in your general direction.  I know, you owned Ben Revere last year and you guys got along thick as thieves.  Awesome!  Send him a postcard.  I think postage is up to eighty-seven cents.  You should check on that.  You’re not going to hold onto these late round offense guys anyway.  You’re going to get to the first week of the season and you’re going to wonder why you have Ben Revere on your bench when there’s a hot hitting guy on waivers.  Instead of an offensive bench player, grab a middle reliever who seems like he has a good chance of taking over for the incumbent closer.  Or grab a starter.  (Note: This rule is for 14 team leagues and shallower. If you’re in a 15 team league or deeper, offensive bench players can come in handy when there’s nothing but scraps on waivers.  If you’re drafting more than 350 players, you can take a bench hitter.  Or in AL- or NL-Only leagues.  Or in leagues that only use Astros hitters.  Then you can tell your leaguemates, “I got Hoes on my Snapchat!  Oh, it’s L.J. Hoes.”)

4. When deep into a position, take a flyer on upside.

Nobody in the history of fantasy baseball has ever won a league by playing it safe in the late rounds.  In 1995, I tried drafting Mike Greenwell as my fifth outfielder; just didn’t work.  A darn fine year by Klesko wasted!  You play it safe in the early rounds.  You take solid contributors early.  You take flyers late.  You’re looking at either Nick Swisher or Adam Eaton, who do you choose?  Omar Infante or Scooter Gennett?  Watching the USFL 30 for 30 again while wearing your Halloween Donald Trump wig or watching something new that you’ve heard good things about?  You get the picture.  Embrace the unknown late.

5. When in doubt, draft your fourth and fifth starters from NL teams.

Self-explanatory.  No DH, pitchers hitting, weaker offenses.  They bunt in the NL!  No, I’m not saying don’t draft Chris Archer.  I’m saying when in doubt.   Martin Perez or Taijuan Walker?  Trick question, I’m taking Walker.  Zack Wheeler or Kluber?  I’m going Wheeler.  (Walker, Wheeler, Kluber?  Sounds like a night out with Chris Brown.)  Erasmo Ramirez or Kevin Gausman?  Ah, another trick question, but I’d go Erasmo.

If you follow these five simple steps, I guarantee you will be in the top three in your league battling for your championship.  PEDS is so easy, it should be illegal.  You’re welcome.

  1. Miles says:
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    Yay, I’m number one!

    • Chicken Dinner says:
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      @Miles: @Miles: Gay.

    • James says:
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      @Miles:

      I do not shout when i take a number one, but to each their own. I know R Kelly loves them

    • Prez!! says:
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      @Miles: #167!!

  2. Sick McNasty says:
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    These are tried & true rules for fantasy baseball. Seriously. Could call these the 5 Commandments!

    Ya’ll have been killing it this year with the material! But I hate that you’re churning out razzbabies into razzballers so fast! Makes it tougher in my leagues cause people are starting to post about this site! What’s good for the Goose is good for the gander I suppose! Anyhow got a keeper question for ya bro….

    6×6 OPS Holds, 1800 Innings cap, roto , 10 teamer keep 8 now next yr keep 10 though
    CI, MI, 2 UTIL,

    Which 8 do u keep out of…..
    Trout
    Miggy
    Kershaw
    Votto
    TuLo
    Stanton
    Beltre
    Puig
    Ellsbury
    Scherzer

    Which 2 do you leave out? I’m guessing Ellsbury and Scherzer? I was thinkin about dropping Beltre given his age and it’s an indefinite keeper league. Thoughts?

    • James says:
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      @Sick McNasty:

      For sure: Trout, Miggy, Kershaw and Votto.
      Good idea: Tulo, Stanton, Beltr and Puig

      Ellsbury is too speed dependant, and i am not a fan of the guys hitting around him this year (too much speed around him, he may be playing more station to station than i would like).
      Scherzer could be elite again, but i am not sold on a repeat. IF you throw him back, he is also the only guy i think you could get back in the 2nd round.

      Age wise, Ellsbury carries similar risk (really anyone over 32 has similar chances of falling apart in any given year)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sick McNasty: Ha, thanks! Leave out Ells and Scherzer… Shouldn’t be fair to have those keepers…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Grey: Oops, had to edit it… wrote one name when looking at another…

    • Ben R says:
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      @Sick McNasty: Sorry, but how exactly do you find 9 other suckers to play in your league?… And who tabled (and found enough idiots to vote in) the “keep 8 indefinitely” rule? You? Your league sounds pretty boring for your competition knowing they have no chance to win, and sounds pretty boring for you – knowing you’re in a league with a bunch of apathetic dudes. Cust Sayin’.

    • dan says:
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      U must play in one of those 2 player leagues

  3. bossmanjunior says:
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    Silly Grey, Walker and Perez are both in the AL.

    Great read. This is my third year at razzball and to no ones surprise, I’ve won my big money league my first two years here. Coincidence? I think not. I should be the poster boy, ya’ll! I still remember these recycled posts but nothing wrong with a refresher.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: I had so many trick questions, I fooled myself!

  4. MasterofGrond says:
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    The ladyfriend reminded me this morning that we are supposed to go down to LA in the middle of March for a few days to see some friends and family. At the time I was obsessively resetting my predraft rankings on ESPN and realized that both my RCL drafts were during the time we were planning to be away. Knowing that some things in life are all too fleeting and not worth missing, I made a decision.

    We moved the trip back a week.

    Got to have priorities, after all.

    • James says:
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      @MasterofGrond:

      Been there, GF understands that my priorities are Law school, baseball then her… but at least she enjoys baseball (and not in the pink jersey kind of way… When a buddy challenged her to name the whole cards pitching staff, she got 9. i could only get 11)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MasterofGrond: Yeah, a fantasy draft lays out a road map for your next six months… A relationship may not last the summer!

      • Carnac says:
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        My wife said the same thing!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Are you in marriage counseling? I am, with Giancarlo Stanton.

          • Carnac says:
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            The court-ordered psychologist told you it was “marriage” counseling?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              And this lollipop on my finger is the ring, are they having a laugh?

          • Furious says:
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            @Grey: My Auction team is going to work really to not overspend on Giancarlo, I don’t see it working out well.

            Giancarlo Cruz-Michael Stanton needs to be healthy for the HR derby this year.

            • Furious says:
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              @Furious: ‘work really hard’ He gets me so hot and bothered I can’t type.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I love your thinking…

  5. Piranhaman says:
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    I just had a draft (i’ve been in only one league a year).
    Here’s my roster. It’s 12 teamer 6×6 roto (standard 5×5 + doubles, QS) with 26 rounds.
    I wanna do something great on my 2014 team.
    Can i have your advice, Grey? or any other baseball lovers?

    C – Lucroy (14th round)
    1B – Adams (11th)
    2B – Hill (9th)
    3B – Longoria (2nd)
    SS – Andrus (6th)
    IF – Encarnacion (1st – i really really wanted him this year)
    OF – Bautista (3rd)
    OF – Rios (4th)
    OF – Beltran (8th)
    OF – Avisail Garcia (18th)
    UT – Gattis (16th – 2 reasons: he’ll hit cleanup & has OF)
    UT – Yelich (17th)

    SP – Sanchez (5th)
    SP – Zimmermann (7th)
    SP – Fister (10th)
    RP – Reed (12th)
    RP – Benoit (24th – waiting someone who to be closer)
    P – Gray (13th)
    P – Masterson (15th)
    P – Porcello (20th)

    BN – Brad Miller (19th)
    BN – Schierholtz (25th – for platoon or drop)
    BN – Pineda (21th – punting a little)
    BN – Josh Johnson (22th – my sleeper)
    BN – Ventura (23th – punting)
    BN – Jaime Garcia (26th – punting)

    * Originally, I’ve planned to go with 3 closers (or 4). So I’ll grab 2 more from FA pool as soon as they are named closer.

    Give me a better direction to manage my team, please. Thanks for reading :)

    • @Piranhaman: Putting Grey in your bullpen should guarantee success. Might also want to pick up Rudy for your backup C.

      Only concern is Longo/JoeyBats injury history. Like JJ as a sleeper.

      • Piranhaman says:
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        @Nick the Podcast Host: haha. Okay, then i’ll pick you up. So, be my 30 basestealer at UT :)

    • Nimrod says:
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      @Piranhaman: Steals are light. When Grey responds don’t let his stache give you whisker burns.

      • Piranhaman says:
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        @Nimrod: hmm.. you are right. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Piranhaman: Haha… Baseball lovers made me laugh… Team looks decent, you look a little light on pitching since you have QS… You do look light on steals as well…

      • Piranhaman says:
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        @Grey: totally agreed. Thank you, Grey!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

    • Jason says:
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      @Piranhaman: Garcia at 18 … He prob is going undrafted in most. If miller wins the ss role in Seattle maybe think about trading longoria for an ace sP . I would drop Nate and Garcia for some would be closers.

      • Piranhaman says:
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        @Jason: strongly, i think Avisail should be the best sleeper of the year, and i’ve seen he’s picked up at round 18~20 in mock drafts several times.
        So i got him early a bit.
        Btw, i like your longoria idea. Thanks for comment!

  6. Long time reader, first time commentator. @RudyGamble has a track record of drafting a pitcher with his first pick. He’s a rule number 1 breaker! How do you guys face each other at Razzball HQ on daily basis?

    I mean it’s rule number 1.

    • The Strolg says:
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      @Nick the Podcast Host: Not to mention he drafted Carlos Quentin on their LABR team.

    • I don’t take pitchers in first round though I wouldn’t rule it out in the future. 2nd round is okay if I deem the pitcher elite (only kershaw this year).

      My biggest disagreement is on top-tier closers. If I can get one at solid value, I’m game. Especially in deeper leagues where getting saves in free agency is hell. I also cede that Grey is better than me at getting saves via free agency in shallow leagues. I probably should run the RCL number on this one…

      • Terrence Mann says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: Completely with Grey on the starters. Usually, he wants his first starter in about round 5. This year, he’s coming along and is willing to wait until the 90’s when Gio, Cole, Cain, would be his #1. If you can stack your lineup with your first 8 or so picks, then go on a pitcher run for a few rounds, why not? What hitters are you getting after 100? Swisher, Crisp? Look at the pitchers you can have there. Besides the forementioned, Sonny Gray, Medlen, Teheran, Cashner, Fister,….the list goes on and on. Why would you take Kershaw in round 2 when you can stack your glut of starters from 9-12?

        Closer-wise, I lean a little more toward your thinking. I still won’t pay for a $12 salad but if I’m in a 12 team league, I want 3 guys with the closing job.

        Overall, very nice article. The only thing I would add is that you need to focus on power with those early picks.Happens every year. A couple months in, some guy is looking to trade starters for HRs. I’ve never seen a league where power hitters are offered up for aces or speed in July. Always the other way around.

        Cheers.

        • The hit/pitch analysis does show that hitter investment pays off a bit more than RP which pays off more than SP. But there is little difference in overall success between investing 60-72% in hitting. There is no proof that investing a couple of your first 8 round picks in pitching hurts your chances of success.

          • Fyi, Grey and I invested nearly the same amount in hitting vs pitching last year. He out-drafted me in hitting, I out-drafted him in pitching. This had nothing to do with strategy per se – I had bad luck with Braun + wrongly selected Posey over Jones. Grey had SP injuries. My pet peeve is thinking there is only one right way. There are multiple.

            Here’s my strategy in a nutshell – maximize draft value with roughly a 66/34 split and a bias towards RP volume vs SP volume given easier to stream SP.

            • mauledbypandas says:
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              @Rudy Gamble: Right on. I was just looking at my draft from last year when I got Kershaw, Darvish, and Weaver in the first 9 rounds. I sort of regret the Weaver pick but I would do the other two again.

              It’s more about building a team and reacting to how the draft is playing out than sticking to a particular set of rules. The rules are a great guide but they can certainly be broken in the right situation

      • Jay29 says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: “My biggest disagreement is on top-tier closers. If I can get one at solid value, I’m game. Especially in deeper leagues where getting saves in free agency is hell.”

        Totally agree here. I’m in a deep-ish league where, year in and year out, a majority of the FAAB money is spent on FA closers, even speculating that never works out. So when I spent more in the auction on Kimbrel, Chapman, and Holland than I did on all my SPs combined, it worked out pretty well for me (snagging Harvey, Cobb, J-Fer, Burnett, etc sure helped too).

        Gotta remember that the top closers are the top closers because of their ratios and Ks, not their save totals, and the ratio help from studly shutdown CLs can be enormous.

  7. Sea says:
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    All good until every single team in the league follows the same strategy..

    Every year, my hardest draft, is the RCL draft. Good, switched on managers, who obviously share similar sentiments.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sea: Ha, nice

    • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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      @Sea: Actually, the drafts where “every single team follows the same strategy” are the easiest drafts, IMO. VERY easy to find value because EVERYBODY is down on the same players. In reality, there’s always at least a few managers that are willing to go against the grain and grab value buys, even in the RCLs.

  8. kangaroo hops says:
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    For some reason, even though I seem to be gaining more and more knowledge whilst reading RB, I haven’t won anything since I started reading this site, whereas before I read RB I won my fair amount of leagues. Some sort of interference? Bad mojo? Misunderstanding Grey’s sarcasm? I dunno.

    • Cram It says:
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      @kangaroo hops: Example. Grey likes Michael Brantley. He doesn’t like Jacoby Ellsbury, for where he’s being drafted. It does not mean draft Brantley ahead of Ellsbury or trade Ellsbury for Brantley. Extreme example, but it’s crazy how…crazy people get when RB posts about a BUY/SELL candidate and there’s an influx of questions of whether they should trade their whole team for the Buy guy. Some people have no perspective. Again, not saying that’s your situation, but that’s the first thing that came to mind. Hooray coffee with whiskey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @kangaroo hops: You might still be holding back… Fall into my arms, K. hops…

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: if all of the owners in any league are active and not completely stupid it’s silly to think just because you follow certain strategies or read certain sites you’ll simply win. there’s still a lot of luck in fantasy baseball; best strategy just gives you best chance.

  9. Beastman says:
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    Want to put Grey’s PEDS strategy to good use in a competitive money Razzball commenter league? Or feeling adventurous and want to ignore Grey and go your own way? (Absurd, I know, but people do it).

    Then join my $100 RCL. 2nd year running, 10 of least year’s teams are returning, so I have 2 open slots. Draft is Sunday March 23rd at 5 pm eastern time. Email me if interested. If not, stick around and comment on Grey’s follicular fashion sense.

    Joshua_eastman@yahoo.com

    • Shawn of the livid says:
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      @Beastman: You guys do H2H beast?

      • Beastman says:
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        @Shawn of the livid: No, this follows the Razzball league settings, so it’s roto

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Beastman: How do you have two spots open? Looks like one, the Wall Biters…

      • Beastman says:
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        @Grey: Hmm, I removed the owner of “Caught Looking” last night. Just checked and that team is open in the League/members tab.

        • Grey

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          Ah… Gotcha… So, Tehol is in?

          • Beastman says:
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            @Grey: Not sure, he said it depended on the draft date. Then again, he finished 2nd last year, so maybe he’s scurred of not winning 2 years in a row.

            • Grey

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              Haha… Prolly

  10. Iguy says:
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    Hey folks, hoping you can weigh in on keepers for me. I can keep 3 out of the following 5, all for $1, for a 5×5 12 team Roto league (3 year contracts). Billy Hamilton, George Springer, Jurickson Profar, Gerrit Cole, Danny Salazar.
    Thanks for the help.

    • Jash says:
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      @Iguy: Cole, Hamilton, and Springer, I don’t think it’s close

      • Beastman says:
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        @Jash: @Jash: Agree with Jash. Could go with Profar over Springer, if only because Astros might not call him up until late in the year, but Springer’s upside should outweigh his call-up time.

    • Grey

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      @Iguy: Hamilton, Cole, Springer

    • NowIKnowWhyCramHatesYou says:
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      @Iguy: It’s close but I’d take Profar over Springer. Better park, better lineup, easier to find OF talent than 2B/SS, 3 position eligibility this year, and we know he’s playing from day one.

    • Jay29 says:
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      @Iguy: Man I’d take Salazar over Springer. Salazar is going to pitch all year whereas Springer might not hit MLB till June. Though, if you can trade contracts, maybe Springer’s 3-year deal at $1 per would net you a nice stud in July/August.

  11. Justin says:
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    If your in say a 12 team league with 6 bench spots, you have to take a bench hitter yes??

    • Buffalo Runner says:
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      @Justin:

      no, you take 6 bench pitchers. middle revilers, etc

    • Grey

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      @Justin: Depends if a George Springer type bat is available…

  12. Grey, so far the majority of mockers are not following your advice (ESPN mocks). People are pitcher crazy? Top SP’s and RP’s are flying out off top rounds in every mock. I’ll be loading up on hitters and following a strategy that’s more in line w/ your own. I just have to remember,”Walker, Wheeler, Kluber, Walker, Wheeler. Kluber, Walker, Wheeler, Kluber”, if I repeat it enough times I’ll have it stored in my memory come draft day.

    • Grey

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      Shizzle my nizzle, you can only lead a horse to water…

  13. With this strategy in mind, who are the top SP’s and RP’s you’re targeting in your draft?

    • Cram It says:
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      @The Strolg: Man, it used to be so easy to be good-looking.

    • Grey

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      @The Strolg: Says five spots on the RCL sheet

  14. Brooklyn says:
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    Hello, Grey, and other Razzball local notables:

    I just wanted to alert you to some odd optics (oddics?) on this post. Directly to the right of Grey’s #1 bit of advice to “never draft a pitcher with your first two picks” is Razzball’s Player Rater top ten players, a list which includes…..4 pitchers.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Brooklyn: Right, that’s what they are worth. Also in that first bit of advice is the part of how they are worth where they are ranked.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Brooklyn: Ha, nice… Yeah, they end up well ranked, but there’s plenty of them, take hitters early…

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    Thoughts in this pitching staff in a 7×7 where QS and K/9 are added in addition to your standard 5:

    Gio Gonzalez
    Patrick Corbin
    Danny Salazar
    Doug Fister
    Justin Masterson
    Sonny Gray

    • Grey

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      @quimmy: I like it…

  16. malamoney

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    I can keep one of my minor leaguers. Buxton, Taveras, Sano or Springer. Narrowed it down to Buxton or Taveras. Thoughts on who might help me more in 2014?

    • Cram It says:
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      @malamoney: For 2014 Taveras more likely. I don’t think Buxton will be ready to contribute this year.

    • NowIKnowWhyCramHatesYou says:
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      @malamoney: Unlikely Buxton gets called up before rosters expand in the fall. So if you’re just looking 2014 I’d say Springer or Taveras.

  17. Brooklyn says:
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    An unrelated question (unrelated to my previous snark, that is):

    where do you think Byron Buxton is going to go this year?

    I’m in a 12 team, mixed points, keeper league, and would like to pick him up late, but I think someone else will bite early.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Brooklyn: Can’t get in the heads of the other guys. If you really want him and you’re paranoid, go get him. I think his ADP is around 300 but idk if that factors in straight keepers.

    • Grey

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      @Brooklyn: Agree with Cram… Draft him around 200 if you want him… I.e., if it’s the choice between him and closer you might drop in two weeks, go Buxton…

  18. RedPanda says:
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    Already keeping Goldie, Scherzer. Cobb and G. Cole.

    R, RBI, OPS, AVG, SB, HR
    QS, ERA, K, WHIP, K/BB

    $260 budget.

    Need help picking three others.

    A. Jones ($38)
    Ellsbury ($30)
    Gyorko ($17)
    Cingrani ($1)
    M. Moore ($1)

    Past drafts with this group indicate players top out around $55. Beyond that, most draft prices are ~ 30% inflated due to saved funds.

    Thanks!

    • RedPanda says:
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      @RedPanda:

      Edit to above:

      Already plan on keeping Goldie ($8), Scherzer ($14) and G. Cole ($1).

      R, RBI, OPS, AVG, SB, HR
      QS, ERA, K, WHIP, K/BB

      Need help picking three others.

      A. Jones ($38)
      Ellsbury ($30)
      Gyorko ($17)
      A. Cobb ($6)
      Cingrani ($1)
      M. Moore ($1)

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @RedPanda:

        take the 3 hitters .
        easy decision .

  19. Trollvolution says:
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    NFBC draft…I am currently in the 6th round. My draft has gone like this so far…

    1st Goldschmidt
    2nd Puig
    3rd Pujols
    4th Posey
    5th Kemp
    (I know taking risks or catchers isn’t advised with your early picks, but I saw too much talent and potential with Pujols, Posey, and Kemp)

    Was wondering what path should I take next? The bright, sunny path that has Pitchers? ( Hamels, Zimmermann, Sanchez, Wacha, Cain, Cobb, Minor, Cole, Latos, Bailey)

    Or should I take the dark, foggy path with red glowing eyes, and take another hitter? I was hoping to get Arenado, Middlebrooks, or Sandoval for 3rd, and then any combination of you 10th-20th ranked MIs later (there are still a lot of decent options available…Zobrist, Hill, Altuve, Gyorko, Hardy, Kinsler)

    Not necessarily which player would I take, but which player profile makes the most sense?

    P.S. I pick again 4 picks later if that changes who I would take at all.

    Thanks a lot for doing what you do on here Grey! Much love.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Trollvolution: I’d take another bat. Those are your best options? I’d take Kinsler.

      • Trollvolution says:
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        @Cram It: those aren’t necessarily my best options, I’m looking to get Sandoval or Arenado as late as possible. Also as far as middle infielders go, I like to go later as well. The pitchers are just a few that are still available. No one is really sticking out for me, so that’s why I’m really just looking for some insight on which route to go

    • OaktownSteve says:
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      @Trollvolution:

      If you don’t take an SP with one of your next two picks you’ll be getting maybe a Teheran or Salazar type as your SP 1. If you’re ok with that, I think you can play that game as long as you are really confident in your ability to get low end pitching right later.

      I’d be tempted to take Cole there as I have him with top 10 potential this year but not everybody shares my opinion on him. If you go bat I’d go Gyorko or Altuve. I like Gyorkos upside better. If you go Altuve that’s going to shore up speed and you should also have solid BA foundation which will give you flexibility later.

      Higher end closer go earlier in an NFBC format and the high K rates are more helpful than in RCL for reasons that get a little long winded. So you could also consider Holland or Rosenthal if either are there. Assuming Jansen, Kimbel, Chapman off the board.

      One last option is to double up on SPs there. If yo do that you might be looking at Seager, Hill and similar on the 8/9 to fill up the position players. Maybe JJ Hardy. Or you could go with a solid second tier option there like David Robertson.

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        @OaktownSteve:

        and if you decide to double up on offense there I’d go with one of the 2B guys I mentioned above and pair him with an OF. I’d look at Josh Hamilton if he’s fallen below his ADP to you. I think he’s a good bounce back option. I like Beltran a lot in NYY stripes. Alex Gordon is perceived as a safe pick and should benefit from moving into the middle of the line up. Werth had a very quietly excellent season last year and seems to be back from his wrist thing. All those would be helpful and reasonable there.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Trollvolution: Agree with Oaktown… 15 team league, right? You’re around pick 85? Take a pitcher… See my rankings for which one I’d take…

  20. Clint says:
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    So, getting the jest of it, rule of thumb is fill out hitting first and draft very few if any backups, filling pitching in for the second half of the draft instead? If pitching’s so deep and hitting so valuable, why wouldn’t you want more ammo on the bench to deal if necessary for a pitcher as injuries hit and/or big bats turn into little bats unexpectedly?

    • Chicken Dinner says:
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      @Clint: Bench hitters will likely only be used when there’s an injury. You can stream pitchers with two starts and matchups.

    • DonSlaughtOnslaught says:
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      @Clint: Is it more efficient to draft a bench hitter to trade for a pitcher later, or just draft a pitcher? Bench bats are always available.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Clint: Unless you have limited waiver wire moves, a bat bench is just gonna be dropped anyway, unless it’s a Springer type as noted above…

      • Clint says:
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        @Grey:

        One other thing for the newbies: it seems your rankings are decidedly lacking in Adam Dunn and Paul Konerko hype. How am I gonna repeat as a champion without knowing where to draft these CBS Sportsline gems (along with the mighty Dan Strailly as my ace anyway)?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

    • Prez!! says:
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      @Clint: THATS, how you get away with a cat avatar…. Take notes, Gareth!

  21. Euroalien says:
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    Great Stuff as always Grey!

    12 Team 5 x 5 keeper league, (25 man rosters) can keep up to eight of the following as my first eight draft picks……

    Joey Votto 1B
    Eric Hosmer 1B
    Alex Gordon LF
    Jason Heyward RF
    Jay Bruce, RF
    Manny Machado 3B
    Oscar Taveras CF
    Pablo Sandoval 3B
    Xander Bogaerts 3B
    Brandon Phillips 2B
    Gio Gonzalez SP
    Jordan Zimmermann SP
    Matt Moore SP
    Alex Cobb SP
    Zack Wheeler SP

    For sure I’m keeping Votto, Hosmer, Bruce and leaning towards Gordon & Heyward (but not real excited about either one). Thinking I have to keep Cobb and possibly Zimm…… but as it’s a keeper I also want Machado, Taveras and Bogaerts long term. What do you guys think? Thanks!

  22. henncoop says:
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    In the middle of a 12 team roto daily lineups(ESPN type lineups) slow draft with 5 picks done Jones 6, Longo 19, Freeman 30 Segura 43 then relented & took a SP Sale 54, I assume I should be looking OF with only 4 more picks in front of me & all the players I passed on to take Sale available (so far)
    Possible OF: Myers, Holiday, Marte, Beltran, or Heyward OR Kinsler for 2B
    ( as well as SP Gio or Annibel Sanchez)
    I figure it is a bit early to think about CI ( Rizzo) just yet.

    Any suggestions for this pick & the next round would be appreciated as well as a strategy considering my team strengths & needs

    • henncoop says:
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      @henncoop: I think my actual question here is take one of the mentioned OFs or go for Kinsler ranked slightly above any of them, Any insight or pearls of wisdom is greatly appreciated,

      • Oaktownsteve says:
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        @henncoop:

        I don’t like Kinsler at all this year.

        • Mike says:
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          @Oaktownsteve: I agree pas on Kinsler

        • henncoop says:
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          @Oaktownsteve: on the clock now …any preference for OF? Heyward for bounceback,? The kid Myers for upside? or steady but getting older Holiday? or the really old Beltran hitting in NY?

          • Oaktownsteve says:
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            @henncoop:

            Tough call. Sort of depends on how you intend to proceed. Marte if he’s still there. Probably Holiday then a coin flip on Meyers and Beltran. I like Heyward too and he adds a potential for a bit more speed. Can’t argue with any there. Albright will say Meyers.

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Oaktownsteve: @henncoop: Agree with Oaktown Steve, I don’t like Kinsler at this price. Your steals are light at this point (which it should be) and you can get an Altuve type 2b later. Get OF’s in your next two rounds if it makes sense (as in not having to reach too far). I like Myers most with your next pick if available.

        • henncoop says:
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          @Count de Monetball: Thanks he is available …having a hard time pulling the trigger with the tiny sample but love the upside

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @henncoop: Outfielder…You know how I rank them… Myers or Marte…

  23. pasha says:
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    When you’re keeping 4 legit hitters, would it be reasonable to take a pitcher in the 2nd rnd?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @pasha: As long as it’s not a 10 team mixed league

  24. costaricanchata says:
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    sure .
    as long as it’s not gio gonzalez .

  25. Grant says:
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    We are in a keeper league, keep 3, 2 hitters 1 pitcher, I got the best one two combo for hitters, Goldy and Jones. My keeper pitcher right now is probably Homer Bailey, could be Shields. My question is, with the news on Harvey being cleared for throwing, where should I draft him to make sure he is my keeper for next year? Funny story, I could keep him this year, but that just seems silly, unless you think there is enough pitching to make up for keeping a DL guy. I am going to die if someone gets Harvey besides me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Grant: I wouldn’t draft Harvey until around pick 150

  26. KB says:
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    Decided to stick almost strictly to Razzball rankings and strategy (outside of Chapman in the 6th) in one Yahoo! Pro League Draft. #2 overall pick. Nice to get Trout, but I hate drafting at the turn. What do you think:

    C: Wieters
    1B: Freeman
    2B: Murphy
    3B: Longoria
    SS: Andrus
    OF: Trout
    OF: Marte
    OF: Swisher
    UT: Butler
    UT: Abreu
    BN: Springer
    SP: Cobb
    SP: Teheran
    SP: Fister
    SP: Liriano
    SP: Gray
    SP: Masterson
    SP: Garza
    RP: Chapman
    RP: Benoit
    RP: Allen
    RP: Santos
    RP: Gregerson

    Not sure if Trout/Marte/Andrus/Murphy is enough for SB. Springer could help down the line. Saves is an obvious weakness, but the closer runs in this draft were unlike any I’ve ever seen (one team drafted five closers). Hoping Benoit and Allen will get their fair share of saves.

      • KB says:
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        @Grey: Adam Dunn is available on FA list… otherwise Middlebrooks, Moreland … I’d be fine w/ dropping Garza or Gregerson

        • KB says:
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          @KB: … or Reddick or Arcia

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @KB: Lose Gregerson for Reddick

          • KB says:
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            @Grey: Thanks a lot!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

  27. George says:
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    Win Pitching. Compete Offensively. That is my strategy each and every year. You win pitching by mixing in investment in the early rounds. Never take a closer before the final 8 rounds of a draft.

    Draft upside in the latter part of the draft. Don’t shy away from former top flight prospects that have already shown that they are going to produce. Shy away from positional players that historically get hurt and play five out of six months over the course of the year (here is looking at you Troy Tulowitzki, Ian KInsler),

    Draft good solid floors with five tools in the first 10 rounds. If you draft 3 starting pitchers and 7 hitters in the first 10 rounds, you are going to be set for the remainder of the draft.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @George: Aim for the middle of the pack with pitching and try to win hitting…

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @George: Kinsler has been fairly injury free for the last 3 years. He had a short stint on the DL last year but other than that… yeah

  28. Northside Baez Club says:
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    @Grey – Totally agree with this strategy. When do you take your first starter? Granted, it depends on the flow of the draft and varies year by year, but I generally target round 5 or 6. Too early or just about right? What are your thoughts? Thanks!

  29. Ryan says:
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    I’m in a 20 team h2h dynasty league. I was offered Dom brown rasmus Buxton for Fielder and lee. This is really tempting. What should I do?

    This is my team btw. This is really for the #1 pick in our prospect draft. So maybe I could get Javier baez

    c evan gattis
    1b miguel cabrera
    2b brandon phillips
    3b evan longoria
    ss jurickson profar
    lf justin upton
    cf desmond jennings
    rf shane victorino
    util prince fielder
    bn michael cuddyer
    bn carl crawford/neil walker/michael morse/jp arencibia

    sp clayton kershaw
    sp yu darvish
    sp cliff lee
    rp jose veras
    rp sean doolittle
    rp dan delarosa
    p zack wheeler
    p dan straily
    p tanner roark
    bn matt belisle
    bn charlie morton
    bn garrett richards
    bn robbie erlin/mart thornton

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ryan: Do better for Fielder/Lee

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: so I should pass?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

          • Ryan says:
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            @Grey: what if it was just buxum/Javier Baez rasmus for fielder?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Nope

            • costaricanchata says:
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              @Ryan:

              take fielder out of the equation and
              see what he’ll give you for lee .

  30. TysonFrozenChicken says:
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    Dumb question: How would you translate at-bats to games played? For instance, you have Hanley Ramirez set for 554 at-bats, which would seem to suggest you think he’ll stay relatively healthy compared to some other projections. How many games played would 554 at-bats roughly be?

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @Cram It: I heart you Cram!!!

        • Cram It says:
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          @Count de Monetball: Sorry to hear you had to drop out of the RCL. We did get Sky though, so it’ll be fun taking him to school in your stead.

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Be sure to cut the edges off my sandwich before you pack my lunch while taking me to school, Butler Cram.

            • Cram It says:
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              @Sky: You weren’t supposed to see that. I’ll hold your hand all the way there.

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                Hahaha, just don’t let the other kids see! It’s embarrassing when ‘the help’ take me to school.

                • Cram It says:
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                  @Sky: Ha. In that case, I’ll slap you on the ass and yell “Don’t forget to change your diaper at lunch!” for all to hear.

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Nuh-uh! Mommy! We need a new monkey butler!

          • Count de Monetball says:
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            @Cram It: That’s cool, I’m sure sky will be fun to play against, with him writing sleeper posts on Darwin Barney and all…

      • TysonFrozenChicken says:
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        @Cram It: I’m gonna git you!

      • TysonFrozenChicken says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. So just divide by an even 4, then?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          More or less… Might work out to 144 games in actuality, but around there…

  31. Peets says:
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    Hi Grey
    I am wondering how to evaluate position and player’s ranking. For example..

    If I’ve got Votto, Giancarlo, Harper already, and Bruce & Segura are still available.
    Got 2 OFs already… and good SS are rare, who do you suggest to draft? Thoughts appreciated.

      • Peets says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. That means to balance position and scores, not only follow rankings.

        Still in that case (got Giancarlo & Harper), please rank Wright, Segura, Kipnis, if they are still available to draft next. Thanks, (ROTO 5×5 7-team league)

          • Peets says:
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            @Grey: Hi Grey, Segura hit 12 HRs last year which is the highest record even comparing to in MiLB. (especially he hit only 1 HR in 2nd season) Does it concern you about Segura (still lean Segura in my case) ? How do you think? Thoughts appreciated.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I still like Segura

    • Prez!! says:
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      @Peets:

      Peets > Starbucks

      • Peets says:
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        @Prez!!: Ha I agree! I like Peets too!!

  32. willy says:
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    Hey Grey, normally I read through all the comments to make sure I’m not asking a question that has already been asked, but I’m a little tight for time today so I apologize in advance if this has already been brought up…

    I’m not sure I understand about not drafting bench bats… Maybe my league is different from the norm, but we are in a Yahoo roto league 6by6 and we count OPS and KK/BB. We have 1 C, 1 1B, 1 2B, 1 SS, 1 3B, 3 OF, 2 Util and then 8 P with 7 bench spots and 2 DL…

    Everyone has to maintain a 25 man roster at all times. That would make it 17 starters and 7 bench spots. People in my league always have had bench bats, as they plug them in when a regular has days off. Each offensive position has a limit of 162 games, so if a guy plays for 140 games in a season, you would be -20 games for that position if you don’t have a bench bat to plug in and fill in the void. So if I don’t plug the bench bat in, then I would be at a disadvantage with RBI, R, HR and SB…

    With all that in mind, wouldn’t it seem essential to have bench bats to cover for each position? For example, I own Segura and Altuve, but then I could draft Brad Miller for the bench and he could cover for the middle infield, as he would be qualified for both positions in yahoo…

    thoughts?

    • Jay says:
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      @willy DAMN COMMON CORE MATH THESE DAYS…

      17 + 7= 25?

      • willy says:
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        @Jay: it’s 25 starters… I meant 18 + 7 bench… I didn’t count the catcher subconsciously because they are boring I guess. Thanks for pointing that out friend

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s fine to have bench bats in your league…In every league really… I just don’t make it a habit of drafting bench bats… Once the season’s here, obviously you grab bench bats for guys who have a day off…

      • willy says:
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        @Grey: Okay, thanks Grey… I think we have to draft them in order to have 25 men at the end of the draft… Also, I think it’s good to try and draft the best bench possible for this league, because we have a moves limit of 40. I usually run out of moves by the All Star break unfortunately… I’ll probably have Javier Baez on my bench to go along with the brad millers, Calhouns and K Davis’ of the world… cheap upside guys. It’s salary based.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup, with move limits, you need to draft a solid bench…

          • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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            @Grey: to not run out of moves only give yourself so many per month. I do this in a hockey roto with 150 moves allowed per season. Some weeks i’ll stream more guys than others, but it’s much easier to know how far away from my weekly average i am at any time.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I hear ya

  33. Patrick says:
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    I’m in a 10 team, keep 5 player draft where the 5 we keep just go in as our first 5 draft picks. If you keep less than 5, you get first crack at players that are not kept. We have C/I and M/I spots as well.

    I am set on keeping Andrew McCutchen, Prince Fielder, Evan Longoria and Yasiel Puig.

    I need to decide on a 5th keeper between Jean Segura and Freddie Freeman or just keep the 4 I already have and go after anybody that isn’t kept. I like Segura, I just am not sure I’d have to keep him in order to own him this year, especially since ESPN has him ranked so low and that is the basis projections for the draft.

    Who do you think, Segura, Freeman or just start my draft early? Leaning Freeman…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura

  34. TreeFrog says:
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    Great shizz as always…
    I have to make a request… PEDS: Auctions Edition

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’ll put it up next week…

  35. Greyismyhero says:
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    Grey…..Speaking of draft strategies..I’m having a problem this year with my strategy…I love young upside players so in all of my mocks so far all my teams end up a little weak (well maybe not weak, but not experienced) cause of my said issue….I will take the Grays, Wachas, Wheelers, and young hitters also etc. instead of the proven (boring in my opinion) vets…It just seems this year you can really get a decent team with going upside instead of the vets….You have any medicine for my problem? I’m in serious help of a cure. Smoke the green!!! and don’t pass!!! Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No medicine for that, Greyismyhero… I love me some upside too, and you are my first apostle…

    • UncleLarryWalker says:
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      @Greyismyhero: Man, I feel your pain. 2 years ago I had what my league dubbed “All-Star 2016 Team”. I had Trout, Harper, Hosmer, Stanton…all just young studs that i thought were ready to mash. Guess what: they weren’t. Trout blew up that year, but everyone else broke my heart.

      Upside is awesome, but you can’t go all upside all the time. Sometime’s you need a ‘sure thing’, or at least as close to one as you can get in fantasy. I try to draft a few reliable, easily forecast-able players (Matt Holliday, for example. They guy hits 290+, 25+hrs, 95+ rbis every year) to be staples in my line up, and fill 3 or 4 holes with high upside guys.

      All upside teams seem to be lacking, in my experience. But guess what- it’s a good problem to have. You have foresight which isn’t a bad thing.

  36. UncleLarryWalker says:
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    I typically agree about closers- but if I have a chance to take Chapman a round later than the closer rush begins, I think I’d pull the trigger.

    He K’s almost 2 batters an inning…and K’s make my world go round. Jansen looks like his stuff is almost as elite, but Chapman had 1 more K in 11 less innings last year. My point is this: if you’re getting a guy logging 110Ks in 60IP, I’d draft a top tier closer if the price is right. But not Kimbrel, for god sakes.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I love me some Aroldis too, but don’t see myself getting him…

  37. TreeFrog says:
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    Awesome… Thx.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

  38. T says:
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    Grey – 12 team, 5×5 roto, slow draft. I already have McCutch, Joey Bats, Bruce and Pujols. I traded by 5th round pick and on my 6th round pick now. It is 69 overall. I have 2 7th rounders (76 and 84). Best available is: Andrus, Holliday, Gordon, Heyward, Marte, B Hamilton, Rizzo, Abreu, Cobb, Bailey, Hamels, Anibal, Teheran.

    I know Andrus is a great value compared to your overall rankings (41 vs 69), but not sure if I can pull the trigger because I like to wait on SS (everth, simmons, castro, miller, profar).

    However, I already have 3 OFs and you start 5. Can I really take Marte or Gordon? 1 of them or Holliday, Heyward, B Hamilton will be there later in the 7th for sure.

    It also still feels too early to take Cobb or Bailey. I guess I could go Rizzo, but already feel good about my power start.

    What would you do?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have 3 OFs already… Take Andrus…

      • UncleLarryWalker says:
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        @Grey: You like Andrus, Grey? Miller and Profar later doesn’t appeal to your sensibilities?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I love Miller and Profar, but Andrus works for your team…

    • UncleLarryWalker says:
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      @T: Baily, Cobb, then best OF…

  39. Jarrad says:
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    Struggling over who to keep in my 14-team Roto league. We’re allowed to keep 5 major leaguers and 2 “Rookies.” So far my DEFINITE keepers are…

    Puig (19th Rd)
    Alvarez (10th)
    Heyward (7th)
    Taijuan Walker (ND)
    Taillon (ND)

    That leaves me two more players to choose out of this group…

    Altuve (4th)
    Price (4th)
    Minor (13th)

    If I decide to go with Altuve and Price, then one of them will count as a 5th rounder and I will not have picks in the 4th and 5th round. I’m leaning toward those two, but I really like Minor’s round value. Is Altuve worth the 4th round tag? Should I avoid Price and go for Minor? Should I keep the two SPs and drop Altuve? For the love of God, HELP!!! :P lol

    Oh, and as a bonus question, I have the 3rd pick in the draft. The players I will be able to choose from include CarGo, Ells, Braun, Fielder, Votto, Cano, Hanley, Kemp, and Longo. I’m leaning toward Votto because I like having power at the corners and his walks, BB, OBP, and SLG will go a long way in our scoring cat’s. Who would you choose? Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Altuve, Price… Minor’s not bad there, but you have Walker and Price… Sure, Votto is fine there…

      • Jarrad says:
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        @Grey: Cool! Thanks, Grey. You da man…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  40. MattTruss223 says:
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    Man, what’s Y! got against young, upside MIs? Alexander Guerrero ranked #1242, Scooter Gennett ranked #906…Egads! I know they usually do a rerank as the season gets closer, but man, that’s crazy shizz!

    • Grey

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      Yeah, not entirely sure… I think they forgot some guys…

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @MattTruss223:

      pretty sure that all sites up-date their rankings .
      for the record , mattingly considering a platoon .

  41. Ryan says:
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    I’m in a 20 team h2h dynasty league. I was offered Salazar 7th pick rookie prospect draft for jennings wheeler. Is this too much?

    c evan gattis
    1b miguel cabrera
    2b brandon phillips
    3b evan longoria
    ss jurickson profar
    lf justin upton
    cf desmond jennings
    rf shane victorino
    util prince fielder
    bn michael cuddyer
    bn carl crawford/neil walker/michael morse/jp arencibia

    sp clayton kershaw
    sp yu darvish
    sp cliff lee
    rp jose veras
    rp sean doolittle
    rp dan delarosa
    p zack wheeler
    p dan straily
    p tanner roark
    bn matt belisle
    bn charlie morton
    bn garrett richards
    bn robbie erlin/mart thornton

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s not too much…Pretty fair…

  42. Fried Fish Fan says:
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    Will there be any changes in your top 20 between now and mid march (pending substantial injury) ? I pick on the corner in round 2/3 and have a number of targets in mind including the bane of my existence, Giancarlo who has burned me the last 2 years running… (He’s gonna stay healthy this year right?….RIGHT?!)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      If someone gets injured or something happens, it could change…

  43. the tone ranger says:
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    grey, how different are machado and arenado? like, in their primes (which would be 3-4 years away for each of them, right?) what do you envision for each of them? one more power? one better in avg? or

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Arenado has more power than Machado, but Machado will probably be a better all-around threat for fantasy…

  44. Prez!! says:
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    You should use your mustache as bristles and glue them on a cd to make a DVD player lens cleaner… Since you are getting the bristles for free and the blank cds for cheap… You can make crazy profit!

    Although, this would involve shaving.. so, there goes that idea.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      We could go on Shark Tank with that… I’d call it, Musictache, what do you think?

      • Prez!! says:
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        @Grey: very nice! Remember, i want 15%!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You get the east side of my mustache bristles…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Wow, that was really disappointing… I want my two minutes back…

              • Kid A says:
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                @Grey: I should have prefaced that link with “Don’t watch the goddamn video”.

                *shrugs*

                As an aside – poor Tehol isn’t weathering the carpet bombing he is taking very well in his post. Getting a little frayed at the ends. I’m so glad I hopped in an RCL with him.

                Crowd here seems unusually snarly this season. Need a good war to satiate the bloodlust. I’ll try and talk Oceania into a preemptive strike on Eastasia.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  It’s always a bit snarly in February…March actually gets worse, so hold onto your head apparel. See, everyone knows everything a month before the season starts… Then Logan Morrison hits 10 homers in April and Votto’s hurt and Starsburg has thrown 25 no-hit innings in April and the world is tipsy-turvy…

                • Prez!! says:
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                  @Kid A: sites more popular than its ever been, more room for d dags. Although i thought the tehol bashing was pretty entertaining…

                • SteveNZ says:
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                  @Kid A: You can say that again. Why can’t people just have a polite discussion if they disagree?

                  That’s one of the problems with the internet – it gives a voice to people who don’t always deserve to have one.

                  • SwaggerJackers says:
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                    @SteveNZ: I think the problem with Tehol is that his writing style doesn’t really fit with the other Razzwriters. It’s exceptionally low-brow and more “gut feelings from watching baseball” than legit research. Kind of the anti-Rudy.

                    The fact that he’s dropping F bombs in the comments kind of shows he belongs on a more raunchy blog.

                    • Prez!! says:
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                      @SwaggerJackers: the guy brings it on himself by starting every article with ‘the great tehol, male model, better than you are ‘ shit.. then he just glamours over himself the whole article without presenting one fact or statistic at all.

                    • Kid A says:
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                      @SwaggerJackers: Apparently he just quit an RCL that he himself created because he can’t handle the razzing. Impressive.

                  • Kid A says:
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                    @SteveNZ: Was that a thinly veiled criticism of me or am I just paranoid? Who you calling a Psycho?!?!?!?

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Kid A: You’re being paranoid. I agree with everything you said – here and in Tehol’s post.

                  • goodfold2 says:
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                    @SteveNZ: yep, same way educated people (i.e. priests for the most part) felt just as the printing press was invented.

                    • goodfold2 says:
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                      @goodfold2: referencing the internet empowering morons as metaphor for morons learning to read and write in the middle ages.

            • Prez!! says:
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              @Kid A: what,do people just hang out on Kickstarter and throw money at random shit? Must be nice…

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Hey now, I’m a narcissistic asshole. Every comment is about me.

          • Prez!! says:
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            @Grey: you cant do that, you just gave me half of your product!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I thought you would appreciate it, since the east side is the gangster side… I’m a bad businessman!

              • Prez!! says:
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                @Grey: HAHA seriously… You keep keepin it gangsta and leave the business decisions to rudy!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah…sigh…

  45. Blue says:
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    Here’s the question, though: do you REALLY pass on, say, Kershaw, if he’s on the board in the mid second round? Or Kimbrel at the top of the fourth? At some point in time the value on the board has to shift to breaking the rule and grabbing the arm.

    For me the Golden Rule of the first six to seven rounds is this: draft an arm if and only if that arm is absolutely top quality. I think where you really get killed isn’t Kershaw in the second–its Greinke or Price in the sixth when you miss you chance to get some of the last real, quality bats going off the board.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would struggle with Kershaw there, but I’d take him, as I’ve said on other posts… Same with Kimbrel, but not near the 4th, unless it’s a 20 team league…

  46. chris says:
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    Good Read! Does it also apply for Keeper League drafts?

    Currently 10 team keeper league; 5×5 using OBP vs AVG and QS over W. Last year I traded away my 3rd, 4th and 5th picks in order to push for playoffs, missed by 1/2 game. My keepers this season going to be Hosmer, Rios, HanRam and Heyland. Pitching Verlander, Kershaw and Strausburg.

    I have the 4th pick overall; with posey, gomez, martling; pence, joey bats and manny machado, best available. Also, what type of player should I aim for with my 2nd pick considering I will be sitting around for 3 rounds. I have quite a bit picks from the 7th rd to 9th rd.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah, keepers are their own beast… You already have a foundation in a keeper that you need to draft around… I’d take Joey Bats then Gomez…

  47. Paz says:
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    would you do a preseason trade of either Tulo or Longoria for Encarnacion?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tulo

      • Paz says:
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        @Grey: I’m also keeping Chris Davis. Does that change anything? I’m about ready to pull this trigger

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Then trade Longo

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Wait, you have Davis? Then why are you making this trade?

            • Paz says:
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              @Grey: the prospect of Home Runs…and Tulo’s DL vacations

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Don’t trade for a top 1B, you have one

  48. Michael says:
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    Grey,

    Can you comment on your 7 x 7 projections for ESPN with QS and Holds. That really helps me for my ESPN league however What are the extra hitting categories used? OBP and SLG? or something else for the hitting side of the 7 categories?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Usually, yeah…

  49. High Home says:
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    sorry for too many details, but…
    18 team dynasty league, roto, $130 auction budget, AL/NL,
    HR,R,RBI,SB, AVG & something called “123” (1b+BB)+(2b*2)+(3B*3)
    W,Sv, ERA, IP, H/IP, K/BB
    I took over a team last year, and have $13 Kimbrel. Everyone else will be saving at least one closer/semi-closer and no one wants to trade for his salary… the other part about this league is a one round pre-auction draft, where you can pick up a free agent for 1/2 their current salary. If I dump Kimbrel, one of the other guys gets him for $8… I do have K. Jansen at $9, which helps a bit, but I think I’m screwed… Any advice?

    • High Home says:
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      also… a 13 batter, 9 pitcher roster with a 12 man bench…. DEEP league
      @High Home:

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know your other options… Just dropping him?

      • High Home says:
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        @Grey:
        Oh yeah… Sorry Grey (typing from work usually ends in an unfinished thought)
        I could keep Kimbrel @ $13 and Jansen @ $9 but with a pitching budget of around $40… I’d own saves and do well with k/BB & H/IP. BUT it’s against all SAGNOF sanity!!!
        I also have Sale @ $10 & Archie Bradley, Y. Ventura and Chris Archer @ $4 each. That may help…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d keep Kimbrel

  50. Bwyan says:
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    What do youse think of this buttsquad?

    C Lucroy
    1b Encarncaion
    2b Gyrko
    3b Arenado
    ss Desmond
    ci Abreu
    mi Bogaerts
    of Cargo
    of Bruce
    of Holliday
    of Heyward
    of Gordon
    util Springer
    sp Cobb
    sp Teherean
    sp Gray
    sp Porcello
    sp Walker
    sp JJ
    cl Balfour
    cl Feliz
    cl Hunter

    For Gray and everybody but Tehol.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No idea how many teams

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Bwyan: Hitters look great. Pitching could be a WHIPping.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kinda surprising you were about to get that good of a team, but you did so well played… Probably a tad light on speed, but solid team overall…

  51. Bwyan says:
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    ESPN 12 team. sorry.

  52. TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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    12 team h2h keeper league 6×6 keeper league, got an offer of my Goldy for Gio, Wheeler and Votto. It is an OBP league but Goldy is huge power and also isn’t a slouch on sbs. This is making me think, Wheeler would be in my minor league system so I wouldn’t waste a keeper spot on him. Thanks.

    • TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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      If I cou@TobiasFunkeAnalRapist: I think I might be able to get G. Cole instead of Wheeler, would you do either of those guys or just pass either way?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        I’d take Cole first over Wheeler…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s decent, I’d take it…

  53. TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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    He just said he can only do Wheeler, so Wheeler, Gio and Votto for my Goldy? Still do it?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Or who? Zimmermann?

        • TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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          @Grey: No, Kyle Zimmer. But it looks like I will probably do it for Wheeler. Thanks.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ah, yeah, Wheeler it is

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  54. OneI'dWilly says:
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    What up, Grey?

    My 10 team auction keeper league has a farm system witch up to 5 players in it. So on top of our 4 keepers, we have up to3 minor league keepers who we can keep for 3 seasons at $3 and don’t count as keepers (I could keep up to 7)

    My minors guys are Wil Myers $3 thru 2015, J Profar thru ’15 and C Yelich thru ’16. So you keep all 3 at $3 or toss one back for an extra minor league draft pick and an extra $3 in the draft.

    I’m def keeping Myers. Based on your write-ups of the other 2 guys, leaning towards keeping all 3. Am I happy with Profar as a $3 MI and Yelich as a $3 OF4?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keep all three

      • OneI'dWilly says:
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        @Grey: Cool. Ever since drafting Moustakas in the 2010 minor league draft and holding him, waiting for him to breakout, I’m pretty pessimistic with my prospects. I’ll stay the course. Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  55. c0dysseus says:
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    I look forward to proving everyone of these wrong in route to a 4th place finish.
    #DREAM BIG.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There ya go!

  56. Wake Up says:
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    Whatsup with all the youtube action over on the other post…fag?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know, haven’t looked…

    • Prez!! says:
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      @Wake Up: haha did you just call grey a fag?

  57. Wake Up says:
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    If Razzball was a shoe…you would be the sole and he would be the heel…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks!

  58. joel says:
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    Thinking of offering Puig, Marte, Bumgarner in H2H points league for Felix, Kershaw and next pick in draft… I have Heyward, Jones, Trumbo to play OF. Move Abreu to 1B leaving me to replace my UTIL spots. Should I not make the offer? and If I should, next available people to draft I would be able to get 2 of these…. Belt, Sandoval, Headley, Cruz, cuddyer, swisher, granderson.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wouldn’t

  59. John says:
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    In a dynasty draft, you taking emilio or rajai for speed?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Emilio

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: boneface is 4-5 years younger.

  60. brett says:
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    bham for kimbrell in a forever keeper? My of is 6 of my 8 keepers as is, and I have no pitching. It is a stream heavy league so SP are almost worthless to me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d explore other offers, but that is fair…

  61. Fish says:
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    Re: Rule #3

    Does this apply only to ESPN where the benches are incredibly small (3 spots) or would you also apply it to Yahoo! leagues where there is 5 bench slots?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d apply it to Yahoo too, assuming there’s unlimited moves and the league wasn’t crazy deep…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh man they were picking on that one cat… So weird how the birds sensed something in that cat too… Rudy tweeted a pic today of his kid with Grumpy Cat…I think it has to be capped…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: I saw that too. Oh Grumpy Cat!

        I find this video fitting in the spirit of what pre-season baseball has been thus far down on the Razz block. Come April it will be people banding together over the success of Alex Cobb and how much they all want to blow him, or what a piece of crap Pedro Alvarez is for setting a new strikeout record in the month of April.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… Yup, or people saying what a piece crap I am when Alex Cobb is blown out in his first game…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: “you suck Grey, go back to your day job!” *fast forward to June 15th* “you are such a genius, I’m so glad I didn’t drop Cobb after that bad first game, now he has a sub 3 ERA, a 8.9 k/9 and a 1.05 whip. You’re the best, I hope you enjoy the round of daquiris I sent over for you and the cougs”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha…Yup, pretty much… Let’s just hope for my sanity he doesn’t a bad first month…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: If he does you’re going to have to go back to 18mg

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Be vaping two pipes at once…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’ve taken nostril hits…..it’s a rush

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      For serious?

                    • Prez!! says:
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                      @J-FOH: bet your high school friends were amazed huh?

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @J-FOH: never seen birds that not scared of cats. those guys had the hearts of cock fighting roosters.

  62. Scooterboy says:
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    Grey, or anyone else who would like to comment. I’m in a 8 team, H2H, 5×5 league. Since there are only 8 teams in the league, should I stick with the draft offense early and often, and hold off on pitching until rounds 6th or so. Or should I put more emphasis on pitching early? Was just wondering, with less amount of teams, does the strategy change a little? Thanks, for the help!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I just answered you in the first post you commented in…

  63. what’s up Grey / fellas –

    10-team ROTO, 10-keeper, 2-Catcher with MI+CI, 5 OF (14 hitters, 9 pitchers + 7 bench).

    Which 10 should I roll with (obviously removed some)? And if you’d be so kind, since I traded away my 1st pick (Kemp) and 3rd (Hamels) last yr, any ideas on trading for either of those back with any of the below?

    Molina, Yadier(C) STL
    Gonzalez, Adrian(1B) LAD
    Prado, Martin(2B,3B,OF) ARI
    Tulowitzki, Troy(SS) COL
    Pedroia, Dustin(2B) BOS
    Cuddyer, Michael(OF) COL
    Garcia, Avisail(OF) CHW
    Kemp, Matt(OF) LAD
    Marte, Starling(OF) PIT
    Victorino, Shane(OF) BOS
    Young, Eric(OF) NYM
    Dunn, Adam(1B) CHW
    Baez, Javier(SS) CHC
    Bogaerts, Xander(SS,3B) BOS
    Encarnacion, Edwin(1B) TOR
    Beltran, Carlos(OF) NYY
    Machado, Manny(3B) BAL

    Corbin, Patrick(P) ARI
    Hamels, Cole(P) PHI
    Jansen, Kenley(P) LAD
    Scherzer, Max(P) DET
    Latos, Mat(P) CIN

    Thanks as always!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tulo, Pedroia, Kemp, Marte, Edwin, Machado, Beltran, Jansen, Scherzer…Then you can take A-Gon, Latos or a flyer on Bogaerts… Whoever you’re not keeping, trade for the picks…

      • Sheriff McRawDawg says:
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        @Grey: cool thanks -leaning bogaerts. yeah I was wondering if something was more feasible w/ the remaining guys; not sure if A-Gon could fetch me a first, etc. worth a shot though

  64. Dave F says:
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    12 team H2H league. 27 roster spots. C/1B/2B/3B/SS/OF/OF/OF/Flex/Flex.

    Several questions:

    1) You get to keep 6. Here are my options along with the road I will lose them in.

    Cano – 1st
    Pedro Alvarez – 27th
    Wil Myers – 22nd
    Billy Hamilton – 24th
    Nolan Arenado – 21st
    Cargo – 2nd
    Rosario – 24th
    Rizzo – 23rd

    Maybe I’m completely off, but Cano/Cargo/Myers/Rizzo/Rosario seem to be no brainers. I’m torn between the last 3. First, which of the last 3 should I choose (assuming the first 5 are locks, feel free to disagree). Second, if I could package Alvarez and Hamilton for someone like Ian Desmond at 24th round value, should I do it?

    2) Because I’m keeping 6 hitters and no pitchers, and won’t have my first two round picks (though neither would most others) – should I still pass on the elite pitchers in round 3 in lieu of continuing to fill out my lineup?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No brainers plus Hamilton… Try Alvarez and Hamilton for Desmond, yes… No reason to pass on any pitchers, you’re starting in the 7th round…

      • Dave F says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks for the speedy response. So you wouldn’t be worried about the unknown factor with Hamilton v the more known quantity of Alvarez at last round keeper value?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nope

  65. Korey says:
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    I have been reading Razzball for a couple of hears now and I really enjoy the advice and humor that comes with it. I think I understand your philosophy for late round drafting, but please correct me if I’m wrong.

    For 12 team roto, you like to use the last three or four rounds on MR and SP, avoiding bench bats. On off days for your hitters do you drop these late rounders, work the FA wire for replacements for a day, then drop them and go back to MR, or SP to stream?

    Also, do you put high K/9 MR in the P slots to pick up some SO and possibly vulture W’s or SV’s? Or just stash them waiting on closers ahead of them to lose their jobs?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup and yup… I do all of the above in your middle paragraph and I usually carry high K/9 MR during season and they’re the first ones dropped when a closer changes hands…

      • Korey says:
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        @Grey: Gotcha! Thanks again. That’s the other great thing about this site, is the fast and consistent replies.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  66. dave says:
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    rule 3 apply in a league with only 12 ww pickups allowed?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  67. Dave F says:
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    Would you trade Pedro Alvarez at 27th round keeper value and Billy Hamilton at 24th round keeper value for Starling Marte at 24th round keeper value? I have 5 other rock solid keepers, and Marte would be my 6th.

    Does not drafting bench bats work in a H2H league as well as a roto?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Trade sounds fair… Bench bats depends on league size and waiver limits…

      • Dave F says:
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        @Grey:

        12 team league – very competitive.

        27 man roster. Start your usual positions plus 2 flex. You get 2 SP slots, 3 RP slots, 3 P slots. Counts both saves and holds.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          So you can stream? Don’t see any reason to draft bench bats there… You can own bench bats during the year, obviously…

          • Dave F says:
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            @Grey:

            100 move maximum.

  68. Kyle says:
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    C.Santana $17
    B.Butler $36
    I.Kinsler $33
    D.Wright $24
    Jose Reyes $41
    G.Stanton $16
    M.Byrd $1
    J.Bruce $30
    D.Ortiz $7

    P.Corbin $1
    A.Sanchez $14
    J.Verlander $45
    S.Romo $48
    H.Street $13
    D.Fister $24
    A.Cobb $6
    A.Pettitte $1
    J.Profar $1
    C.Bucholtz $16
    K.Medlen $6

    I can pick 6 of these guys and we get $350… Definitely going with Cobb, Stanton, and Sanchez… Who else do you think I should go with?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cobb, Stanton, Sanchez, Profar, Ortiz, Wright

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