Comments on: Opening Day! (Part 3) http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/ Fantasy Baseball Advice Fri, 25 May 2012 23:31:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Players to Drop, Add or Hold for Fantasy Baseball http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 Players to Drop, Add or Hold for Fantasy Baseball Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:11:22 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1239 [...] Franklin Gutierrez, Billy Butler, Andre Ethier, Melky Cabrera, Nate McLouth, Lastings Milledge - There’s been a lot of discussion on this site about these six fifth outfielders. So with Rudy Gamble’s permission, I’m just going to reprint what he had to say in the comments of this post. [...] [...] Franklin Gutierrez, Billy Butler, Andre Ethier, Melky Cabrera, Nate McLouth, Lastings Milledge – There’s been a lot of discussion on this site about these six fifth outfielders. So with Rudy Gamble’s permission, I’m just going to reprint what he had to say in the comments of this post. [...]

]]> By: Looking at Closers http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Looking at Closers Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:27:08 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1146 [...] 1 and Thing 2 from Flavor of Love would say, he has been exposed. As I said in the comments on this post, “I just choose between the three (Mota, Riske, Turnbow) in one ten team league and I went [...] [...] 1 and Thing 2 from Flavor of Love would say, he has been exposed. As I said in the comments on this post, “I just choose between the three (Mota, Riske, Turnbow) in one ten team league and I went [...]

]]> By: Pedro Martinez Is Injured http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1104 Pedro Martinez Is Injured Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:57:54 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1104 [...] in the lineup. Fortunately, he will not put up those numbers. He will be a lot better. There was some comment chatter on this post about who will be better between Butler, McLouth, Ethier, Milledge and Gutierrez. Rudy added Melky [...] [...] in the lineup. Fortunately, he will not put up those numbers. He will be a lot better. There was some comment chatter on this post about who will be better between Butler, McLouth, Ethier, Milledge and Gutierrez. Rudy added Melky [...]

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1102 Grey Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:36:41 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1102 Start looking for alternatives. Hey, Kip Wells looked good tonight. Honestly, I have to wait to hear what the Mets say. 6 weeks to the All-Star Break wouldn't surprise me at this point. FCUK! Start looking for alternatives. Hey, Kip Wells looked good tonight. Honestly, I have to wait to hear what the Mets say. 6 weeks to the All-Star Break wouldn’t surprise me at this point. FCUK!

]]> By: josh http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1101 josh Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:15:29 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1101 ah great, pedro said he heard a pop. i don't know what a pop in the hamstring means, but i'm hoping this is 4 weeks at this point. what's your best guess right now? ah great, pedro said he heard a pop. i don’t know what a pop in the hamstring means, but i’m hoping this is 4 weeks at this point. what’s your best guess right now?

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1100 Grey Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:38:59 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1100 Talk about it. Actually, I will, in my daily notes that I'll post later tonight. FCUK! Talk about it. Actually, I will, in my daily notes that I’ll post later tonight. FCUK!

]]> By: josh http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1099 josh Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:36:50 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1099 wow that couldn't have gone worse :( wow that couldn’t have gone worse :(

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1097 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:36:28 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1097 Not a good start thus far. Sumabitch! Not a good start thus far. Sumabitch!

]]> By: josh http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 josh Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:31:53 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1096 ugh good start. have him in a few myself (and sweet john maine) ugh good start. have him in a few myself (and sweet john maine)

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1095 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:03:45 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1095 Yeah -- Gomez is raw, plain and simple. Here's hoping Pedro pitches well tonight, I have him in far too many leagues. Yeah — Gomez is raw, plain and simple.

Here’s hoping Pedro pitches well tonight, I have him in far too many leagues.

]]> By: josh http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1094 josh Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:55:00 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1094 i picked up gutierrez in a league where he was available. i wonder if there's any chance he has a power breakout too. iirc when he was with the dodgers he was projected as a possible 40+ hr guy. about bourn, i agree he has a better shot at 50 because (hopefully for me) his obp will be higher. i'm a mets fan so i got to see a lot of gomez last year, and unless he's made some serious strides, i see him as like reyes '05 lite, the OF version. so like .270, .300 maybe .310 obp. reyes had 60 that year, and gomez had 1 per 10 ab last year with a .288 obp, so it's obviously possible but man stealing 50 bases with a .300 obp is tough. if bourn manages a .330 obp (and it seems like there's upside there), that's an extra 20 times on base throughout the season. if he gets a sb in 1/4 of those that's a 5 sb handicap right there. not to mention 7 or 8 more runs scored i picked up gutierrez in a league where he was available. i wonder if there’s any chance he has a power breakout too. iirc when he was with the dodgers he was projected as a possible 40+ hr guy.

about bourn, i agree he has a better shot at 50 because (hopefully for me) his obp will be higher. i’m a mets fan so i got to see a lot of gomez last year, and unless he’s made some serious strides, i see him as like reyes ’05 lite, the OF version. so like .270, .300 maybe .310 obp. reyes had 60 that year, and gomez had 1 per 10 ab last year with a .288 obp, so it’s obviously possible but man stealing 50 bases with a .300 obp is tough. if bourn manages a .330 obp (and it seems like there’s upside there), that’s an extra 20 times on base throughout the season. if he gets a sb in 1/4 of those that’s a 5 sb handicap right there. not to mention 7 or 8 more runs scored

]]> By: Rudy Gamble http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1092 Rudy Gamble Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:31:15 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1092 Ok, I'll throw in another pet player of mine (Melky Cabrera) too. Here's my rank for 12 team 5x5 mixed league: Butler - Best average and RBI of the bunch. Got valuable experience last year. And 1B potential. Only downside vs. the rest is no speed. McLouth - Best SB and Run potential of the bunch. Enough pop for 15 HR. Enough speed for 30 SB. AVG won't be great. Milledge - Most upside of the group but I'm just not sold on any part of his game. Not a good base stealer. No minor league history of plus power. Cabrera - By no means a great player but he's young, has 2 years experience, playing for a running manager in a great lineup, and w/ more job security than the guys below him on this list. I think he ends up 75/15/75/15 with a respectably .280 average. Gutierrez - No plus power or speed in his minor league history. I think he may fall short of Melky in all 5 categories. Might have playing time cut into. Ethier - His stats for the past two years are just bleh. 15 HR power and no speed. Probably second to Butler on projected AVG. And there's no doubt Pierre reclaims his job if Ethier slumps. Final count of these players on my 3 teams: Melky - 2 McLouth - 2 Butler - 1 Ethier/Gutierrez/Milledge - 0 Ok, I’ll throw in another pet player of mine (Melky Cabrera) too.

Here’s my rank for 12 team 5×5 mixed league:

Butler – Best average and RBI of the bunch. Got valuable experience last year. And 1B potential. Only downside vs. the rest is no speed.

McLouth – Best SB and Run potential of the bunch. Enough pop for 15 HR. Enough speed for 30 SB. AVG won’t be great.

Milledge – Most upside of the group but I’m just not sold on any part of his game. Not a good base stealer. No minor league history of plus power.

Cabrera – By no means a great player but he’s young, has 2 years experience, playing for a running manager in a great lineup, and w/ more job security than the guys below him on this list. I think he ends up 75/15/75/15 with a respectably .280 average.

Gutierrez – No plus power or speed in his minor league history. I think he may fall short of Melky in all 5 categories. Might have playing time cut into.

Ethier – His stats for the past two years are just bleh. 15 HR power and no speed. Probably second to Butler on projected AVG. And there’s no doubt Pierre reclaims his job if Ethier slumps.

Final count of these players on my 3 teams:
Melky – 2
McLouth – 2
Butler – 1
Ethier/Gutierrez/Milledge – 0

]]> By: UnCouth http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1088 UnCouth Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:02:14 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1088 i'd rank 'em: Butler McLouth Ethier Milledge Gutierrez i’d rank ‘em:
Butler
McLouth
Ethier
Milledge
Gutierrez

]]> By: Bob http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1086 Bob Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:53:04 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1086 Let's add McLouth and Billy Butler (OF eligible in Yahoo leagues) to the Ethier, Gutierrez, and Milledge mix. How about a "rank 'em" from either or both of you guys. I'm talking mixed 12 team 5 X 5 this year only Yahoo leagues. Thanks. Let’s add McLouth and Billy Butler (OF eligible in Yahoo leagues) to the Ethier, Gutierrez, and Milledge mix. How about a “rank ‘em” from either or both of you guys. I’m talking mixed 12 team 5 X 5 this year only Yahoo leagues.

Thanks.

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1085 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:50:49 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1085 Makes you wonder what the winners won. Makes you wonder what the winners won.

]]> By: Bob http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1084 Bob Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:49:07 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1084 Thanks for the input, guys. Believe or not, they were BOTH available in one of my Yahoo leagues (winners only), so I grabbed Bourn. Thanks for the input, guys. Believe or not, they were BOTH available in one of my Yahoo leagues (winners only), so I grabbed Bourn.

]]> By: Rudy Gamble http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1083 Rudy Gamble Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:15:54 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1083 Re: Yahoo!, they're driving me nuts. They are now adding guys after their first game (so expect Cueto after his first start). The most annoying one was Alexei Ramirez who played 2B and OF in Spring Training. Since he played OF his first game, that's what they give him for eligibility. Will take 5 starts or 10 games at 2B to earn eligibility now. ESPN has him at 2B/OF. As for Bourn/Gomez, I agree that Bourn is the better bet. Gomez is more likely to get in a big slump and be sent down.... Re: Yahoo!, they’re driving me nuts. They are now adding guys after their first game (so expect Cueto after his first start).

The most annoying one was Alexei Ramirez who played 2B and OF in Spring Training. Since he played OF his first game, that’s what they give him for eligibility. Will take 5 starts or 10 games at 2B to earn eligibility now. ESPN has him at 2B/OF.

As for Bourn/Gomez, I agree that Bourn is the better bet. Gomez is more likely to get in a big slump and be sent down….

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1081 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:16:38 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1081 Great question, they're both speed demons, with a chance to succeed even if they're both terrifically crappy at taking a walk. If I were a betting man (which I am), I'd say Bourn simply because he might have a slightly better idea of how to read the pitchers. Great question, they’re both speed demons, with a chance to succeed even if they’re both terrifically crappy at taking a walk. If I were a betting man (which I am), I’d say Bourn simply because he might have a slightly better idea of how to read the pitchers.

]]> By: Bob http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1080 Bob Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:09:53 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1080 Bourn or Carlos Gomez more likely to steal 50? Bourn or Carlos Gomez more likely to steal 50?

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1079 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:48:49 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1079 There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to what players are added to Y! and I'm pretty annoyed. Give me Cueto already! re: Nats, They'll might be under .500 by Sunday. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason as to what players are added to Y! and I’m pretty annoyed. Give me Cueto already!

re: Nats, They’ll might be under .500 by Sunday.

]]> By: SportsHubris http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1078 SportsHubris Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:42:24 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1078 The Dodgers looked solid last night, but what about those Nats! Who would have predicted they'd start 2-0 behind Perez and Chico going against the two Aces of division rivals? I'm also a bit pissed Yahoo didn't have Nick Johnson available during the drafts this year. I had wanted him for the bench in a number of deep leagues and am pretty dissapointed that he's on other teams right now, and I have Carlos Quentin. The Dodgers looked solid last night, but what about those Nats! Who would have predicted they’d start 2-0 behind Perez and Chico going against the two Aces of division rivals?
I’m also a bit pissed Yahoo didn’t have Nick Johnson available during the drafts this year. I had wanted him for the bench in a number of deep leagues and am pretty dissapointed that he’s on other teams right now, and I have Carlos Quentin.

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:47:23 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1072 Ethier is in a pitcher's park, in a pitching division with someone behind him who promises to steal (pun!) a lot of playing time. I would drop Ethier for Gutierrez. I would drop Ethier for Milledge too. Ethier is in a pitcher’s park, in a pitching division with someone behind him who promises to steal (pun!) a lot of playing time. I would drop Ethier for Gutierrez. I would drop Ethier for Milledge too.

]]> By: Steve http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 Steve Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:31:30 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1071 I know it's only been one day, BUT... I picked up Ethier yesterday - should I be dumping him for Gutierrez today? Neither would start for me so it's not like I need him, but it would stop some other bastard from grabbing him... I know it’s only been one day, BUT…

I picked up Ethier yesterday – should I be dumping him for Gutierrez today? Neither would start for me so it’s not like I need him, but it would stop some other bastard from grabbing him…

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 Grey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:23:47 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1070 I just choose between the three in one ten team league and I went with Riske. Seems to be the safest even if he's not the one called. It's tough though because Riske is probably the best, Turnbow's got the longest history there and they've seen him close before (though it was scary at times) and Mota's supposedly the set-up man. We'll see what cream of the crap rises up. My guess for saves would be Turnbow, Riske then Mota, but I couldn't afford the Turnbow WHIP hit in the league I picked him up. I just choose between the three in one ten team league and I went with Riske. Seems to be the safest even if he’s not the one called. It’s tough though because Riske is probably the best, Turnbow’s got the longest history there and they’ve seen him close before (though it was scary at times) and Mota’s supposedly the set-up man. We’ll see what cream of the crap rises up. My guess for saves would be Turnbow, Riske then Mota, but I couldn’t afford the Turnbow WHIP hit in the league I picked him up.

]]> By: Herb Urban http://razzball.com/opening-day-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 Herb Urban Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:01:32 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=227#comment-1069 So which MR in the Brewer pen assumes the closer role by mid May? Out of Turnbow, Mota and Riske I think Riskie is the one guy that won't kill your ratios on a spec pick. <em>Herb Urban's last blog post..<a href='http://www.herburban.com/?p=3022' rel="nofollow">Reason to Believe</a></em> So which MR in the Brewer pen assumes the closer role by mid May? Out of Turnbow, Mota and Riske I think Riskie is the one guy that won’t kill your ratios on a spec pick.

Herb Urban’s last blog post..Reason to Believe

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