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After hours of rumors about a trade to the Yankees, Cliff Lee was traded to the Rangers.  Going the other way, Justin Smoak and some prospects.  We’ll get to Smoak in a bit.  You know who I really feel sorry for in this whole Cliff Lee ordeal.  The poor, poor New York Yankees.  Now they have to make due with CC, Vazquez, Hughes, Pettitte, Tex, Posada, Jeter, Swisher, Gardner, Cano and A-Rod.  Here’s hoping they can acquire Werth for the first man off the bench position.  Or Oswalt for middle relief.  My pet crocodile is crying for them.  Cliff Lee threw a 2.52 ERA in Citizens Flank last year with 40 Ks and 5 BBs.  Is The Flank that much better than Arlington?  No, it’s not.  He’s still in the AL West, at least, and not the AL East.  His first start vs. (Crap For) The Birds obviously wasn’t the confidence booster you would’ve liked to see, but he was rocked for 7 earned earlier in the year by the Padres.  These things happen.  I’m not worried about The Adverb.  Expect a low 3 ERA, great WHIP, solid Ks and Wins.  You can do worse, I assure you.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw this weekend in fantasy baseball:

Justin Smoak – Arlington is obviously better for a slugging corner infidel, but unless Smoak gets hot he’s not ownable in mixed leagues at this point.  Right now where there’s Smoak, there is no fire.

Chris Davis – With the Smoak evacuation, Chris K. Davis gets another chance.  In Triple-A, Davis was showing what made Bill James change his shorts when he projected him for, like, 45 homers and 20 steals last year.  Everyone knows I’m a sucker for guys who give you a low average, high power and some speed.  Don’t write Davis off simply because he swings more than that creepy guy on Craigslist.  In the 2nd half, you can get double digit homers, some steals and a terrible average.

Carlos Silva – 1 1/3 IP, 6 ER.  We finally learn when his pact with the devil expires.

Mark Teixeira – 4-for-5 as PABST (Post-All-Star Break Stats Teixeira) moves his average over .250 for the first time all season.  Should be a fun 2nd half to own him.

Jered Weaver – 6 IP, 5 ER, 8 baserunners, 7 Ks.  Now with back-to-back starts that made me feel like I was in Requiem for a Dream’s back-to-back scene.  Hopefully the layoff helps him get back on track.

Carlos Quentin – 2-for-4, 5 RBIs and 2 more homers.  Now has 19 homers and 61 RBIs.  He’ll be in the top 100 for the 2nd half of the season that is coming tomorrow.  Could he hit 20 homers in the 2nd half with 50 RBIs?  It’s not out of the realm of possibility.

Daniel Hudson – 4 IP, 5 ER, 9 baserunners, 4 Ks as he gave his owners a quick roofie while desecrating their WHIP and fondling their ERA.

Dayan Viciedo – 2-for-5 and a homer.  Now has a five game hitting streak with two home runs.  After the game, the Poughkeepsie Chapter of Speculating on Small Sample Sizes said that’s something to keep an eye on.

Gordon Beckham – 3-for-4 yesterday after hitting a homer on Saturday.  On the one team, I still have him on, I haven’t moved him from my bench in about a month.  He sonavabenches me every game because I’m spiting my nose by cutting Beckham off from my fantasy team.  In some illogical way, I feel like this will teach him a lesson.  Spread the word, Beckham — Grey will irrationally bench you if you don’t hit while in his lineup.

Zack Greinke – Was scratched with shoulder discomfort.  Not something you want to hear, obviously.  Though my guess is the “discomfort” was minor and rather than risk it they figured they’d give him a week and change off from his last start.  To put it in fancy doctorly parlance, this was a burp to avoid later indigestion.

Kerry Wood – 1/3 IP, 1 ER.  That’s just Wood getting his trade value up going into the break.  Maybe the Polish National Team will trade for him.

Dan Wheeler – Soriano pitched yesterday, so I guess he’s fine.  Sure was nice of Wheeler to leave a two run turd in a burning brown bag on my fantasy doorstep before I got to drop him.

Travis Wood – Pitched a one hitter on Saturday.  Here’s what I just said about Wood, “Stephen just went over his Travis Wood fantasy.  Stephen said, “drool worthy” “splits” “small sample size” “dramatic” “LOOGY.”  Man, I could never work for Zagat’s.  Wood’s an okay flyer in NL-Only leagues, I wouldn’t want him to roofie me in mixed leagues.”  And that’s me quoting me linking to Stephen!  As if it needs to be said, Wood’s nowhere near the guy he showed on Saturday.  To show you the inconsistency of rookie pitchers, let’s look at his first three starts.  7 IP, 2 ER vs. the Cubs, 4 2/3 IP, 3 ER in Metco and 9 IP, 0 ER in The Flank.  If you need the risk and upside, take a flyer, but there’s no telling what you’ll get next.  Also, the return of Volquez could send Wood to the minors quicker than if his name were Luis Polonia.

Aaron Hill – 1-for-4 with his 12th homer as he raises his average to .189.  His career average is .275 and his current BABIP is .188.  As parallel universe Shakira likes to say, BABIPs don’t lie.  Though it’s not all peaches and cream for the turn around.  He’s swinging at more balls outside the strike zone, which shows in his terrible line drive percentage, i.e., he’s not making good contact with the balls he’s reaching for.  He hasn’t shown any sign of breaking out, but Hill almost certainly has to be better in the 2nd half.  BTW, to recap at the break my overrated players coming into the season:  Jason Bay, Victor Martinez, Aaron Hill, Vazquez, Mark Reynolds, Billy Butler, Aramis, Sandoval, Manny and Mauer.  That’s a bit better than Meatloaf’s 2 out of 3.  You’re welcome.

Madison Bumgarner – 6 IP, 1 ER, 7 baserunners, 6 Ks.  Yeah, for now you should own him.

Justin Morneau – He took a knee to the noggin and missed the final weekend of games.  His bruised melon will now make him take a knee on the All-Star Game.  It’s sadly comical how his body won’t let him get through a whole season.  Back, “I don’t feel like being sore.”  Head, “A’ight, I’ll take one for the team.”

Nick Markakis – Homered on Saturday while hitting near .400 over the last week.  Markakis has shown signs of life going into the break, which is nice since prior we were gathering pallbearers for his career.

Everth Cabrera – 2-for-5 with his 1st homer.  Cool, too bad you’re supposed to steal bases you schmohawk.

Mat Latos – Headed to the DL with I-can’t-throw-more-than-180 innings-itis.  I know I’ve said this before, but how do clubs get away with DL’ing guys that aren’t hurt?  Shouldn’t there be some sorta rules on this?  It’s like baseball’s version of the soccer flop.

Adrian Beltre – Left the game with a hamstring injury.  That turned into a leg cramp when Beltre remembered he was in a contract year.  All the King’s horses, all the King’s men couldn’t get Beltre out of the lineup during a contract year.

Jack Cust – 2-for-4 with a home run and steal.  Who let him get an 89 foot lead off first?

Vicente Padilla – 8 IP, 0 ER, 3 baserunners, 6 Ks.  He’s ownable and startable in every home game where he has sub-3 ERA.

Corey Hart – 1-for-5 with his 21st homer in defiance of me.  That’s okay, it allows you to get more for him in a trade.

Lastings Milledge – 2-for-3 with a home run and a steal as he orders the slam & legs with a side of Victorino is out homering Milledge by 11.

Pedro Alvarez – Don’t look now but The Smashbuckler has three homers in the last 10 games.  Actually, you should look now.

Jose Reyes –  Was pulled from Saturday’s game because of his sore oblique.  Here’s what the Mets said, “I don’t think we have had any major setbacks because he did play.  He’s been down these roads before, but he’ll be fine.”  Here’s what I heard, “We have no clue what’s going on.  We ran his symptoms into WebMD and it said for him to take a lozenge.  Fingers crossed.”

Johan Santana – 7 IP, 0 ER, 8 baserunners, 5 Ks.  The Ks have obviously disappeared, but Johan has a 2.98 ERA on the year.  How dare you complain.  I’ll give you Scott Baker, Kevin Slowey and 4 April starts from Verlander for a taste of that Joham.

Angel Pagan – About a month ago, I asked Razzball Nation to start the Benchy Frenchy campaign online and at Metco.  I’d like to now report the Mets listened and will shift Pagan to right when Beltran returns.  The truly miraculous part of our accomplishment is I don’t think any of you actually did anything.  Yet, it still worked.  When you see the difference one little site in the corner of the interwebs can make by doing nothing, it makes you want to do more of nothing.

From Around The Web

  1. gammy says:
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    Really appreciate the Poughkeepsie shoutout in your latest post. Thank you.

  2. barker says:
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    20 team league lf cf rf

    i give buccholz and nyjer morgan i get the dread pirate

    other CF fowler
    other starters lester price kershaw arroyo shields d hudson tillman DL harden volquez

  3. Dr. Orlando Schadenfreude says:
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    I for one have never been more inspired to do nothing in my entire life. kudos Grey, kudos

  4. Miguel the Mango says:
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    HAHA, long live the holy Angel!

  5. Steve says:
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    Bah. Four days with no baseball.

    And yes, I’m taking the All-Star ‘game’ into account in saying that.

  6. danimal35 says:
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    @Steve: you can just watch a replay of the celebrity softball game to get you through

    ***SPOILER ALERT****

    Rickey Henderson hits a leadoff homer!!!

  7. danimal35 says:
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    Sean-Rod, Smashbucker, or Snider assuming Snider comes back healthy after the break?

  8. Brad Havens says:
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    I was just offered his Span for my Markakis in my keeper league. I’m currently 3rd in runs, RBI, HRs and steals, and 5th in average. This would have been a much easier call a month ago. . .

  9. Brad Havens says:
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    Sorry about the double post, but I just realized my previous one didn’t really have a question in it. Should I take Span and his potential high SBs, runs, and avg, or should I keep Markakis and his potentially better power numbers?

  10. bodymore says:
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    LaPorta hasn’t gone deep since his return from his head injury but he has collected a fair share of hits, so his hotness might continue into the 2nd half. I just hope Morneau is back after break and still producing, a concussion can really mess up someone’s game.

  11. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    Just curious… is Rudy still alive? If so, is his wife putting the kibosh on his fantasy baseballing? Is he just still on his honeymoon? If so, how the hell is he affording it? Has Razzball made you two rich? Did you sell the site to ESPN while we weren’t looking? Are you actually Eric Karabell posing as Grey? Is Rudy burning through the entire daiquiri fund? Is Rudy just a figment of your imagination? Is he your Afro Samurai fantasy realized via the anonymity of the interweb? Have I set a new record for “Most Consecutive Questions Not Related To A FBB Transaction”? If not, have I done it now? If still not, how much longer do I have to go?

  12. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Brad Havens: i’d take span. markakis might hit 12 or so HRs in the 2nd hal;f, but his lineup is gonna hold back his RBIs. he does tend to be a 2nd half producer though. overall, i just think span can give you help in more cats though.

  13. ASAOK says:
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    Who do you like for the second half: Gorzelanny or Myers?

  14. mc serch says:
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    @Awesomus Maximus: Ha! Maybe Rudy’s new wife lost the key to the fuzzy handcuffs.

  15. Christopher says:
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    Ugh…horrible time for CQ to come t life, as I my opponent last week had him…and Crawford. Between the two fo them, they had 10 HRs…

    My fantasy team needs the All-Star break!

  16. thepizzaman says:
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    @Steve: Ah I hear ya. I try to make the baseball-less nights go faster by evaluating each player on my team and my team overall. I also like to look at my draft and torture myself over certain picks such as Sandoval in the 3rd round. Wieters was a nice treat in the 6th round too. Thanks for giving me hope Mike Piazza.

  17. El Famous Burrito says:
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    Disgraceful List = Soccer Flop

    Gold, man.

    10 team roto – I’m getting up there in starts, so I need quality production each time out for the 2nd half.

    Bumgarner over Jonathon Sanchez?

  18. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @El Famous Burrito: you are setting yourself up for a roofie’ing. i own bumgarner in a league, but it’s a keeper and i’m hoping to use him for trade bait before the deadline. i would start in in very favorable matchups, but that’s really it right now.

  19. Giacomo says:
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    Trade Bumgarner and get Beltran?

  20. El Famous Burrito says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: Thanks.

    I’ve had my finger on the trigger since last week. Sanchez’s crappy start, plus Bumgarner’s good ones made me itchy, but I’ve burned myself before.

    I’ll take a Filthy Sanchez over Mad-Bum.

    That sounds awful.

  21. Child Please says:
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    5×5 roto league
    Which side do you like better, Justin Upton or Colby and Franklin??

  22. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    33 years old,missed the last year with a bum knee,wearing a knee brace maybe,i mean sure id drop damon for him but what are poeple expecting from Beltran in the 2nd half?250 ave. 10 hr,s(at best and 4 steals maybe

  23. Mr. Rickey says:
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    Is Fukudome an upgrade over Diaz or Hinske? If so, which one would you drop?

  24. Watch it Buster says:
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    Grey,

    12 team 5×5 H2H

    Would you drop any of the below for the Mad Bum?

    Filthy Sanchez
    Liriano
    Scherzer

    Between R.Franklin, Liriano and Filthy Sanchez I had a rough pitching week.

  25. Wilsonian says:
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    8 Team H2H Keeper. For disclosure’s sake, here’s my roster:

    Smooth, V-Mart-DL, Prince, Weeks, Utley-DL, Longo, Wright, Andrus, Kemp, CarGo, Holliday, Quentin, Krispie

    Ubaldo, JJ, Verlander, Weaver, Floyd, Lewis, Romero, Richard, Aardsma, Axford, Capps, K-Rod

    Was offered this deal:

    Bay, Kershaw and Bailey for Utley, Weaver, Axford. I don’t want Bay, really, with my lineup already, but I’m not opposed to trading Utley with Weeks in there, plus I won’t be keeping Utley on that team anyway. I was thinking of countering with this:

    Utley, Weaver, Axford, and either Romero, Richard, Aardsma or Capps for Kershaw, Scherzer, Feliz. What say you, sir(s)?

  26. Frank Rizzo says:
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    Just saw that Toronto has made Kevin Gregg “available”, whatever that means. Would Frasor take back the closer roll if Gregg was moved?

  27. Child Please says:
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    btw, is a 5×5 non-keeper roto league

  28. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Wilsonian: i don’t think you need to add a 4th player to that deal to change from bay to scherzer and bailey to feliz. scherzer isn’t that great of an SP, and sagnof.

  29. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Watch it Buster: you had a rough week. everyone has rough weeks. you move on. if you drop liriano or jonathan o for a rookie then you are a fool. i could maybe see scherzer but he’s been pitching too well the last month to cut imo.

    sometimes you just don’t have the room for every single player.

  30. royce! says:
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    I dropped Beckett when Tulo went to the DL. He’s still sitting in the FA pool. Should I drop one of the following for him?: Volquez, Bills, or Wandy? I have chump dump offer out right now as well, so it’d be dependent on dude not accepting.

  31. Quintero says:
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    The Requiem for a Dream reference was so cracking, it gets Darren Aronofsky to think that maybe he should have Mickey Rourke to do Evan Rachel Wood, so that Mr. Albright could say something like: “Picking up Chris K. Davis is way better than fucking-your-stepsister. It’s purely Rourke on Wood.”

  32. Wilsonian says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: so you think I should leave the offer from my side as is (Utley, Weaver, Axford) and then counter by swapping in Scherzer for Bay and Feliz for Bailey (or just leave Bailey in there)? Good for me?

  33. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Wilsonian: not sure how i feel about the deal as a whole. i do like kershaw more than weaver, but weaver is still damn good. feliz over axford is an upgrade for job security alone. depends on how comfortable you are with the utley for scherzer part, and i’m not so sure i believe in scherzer yet, and he’s easily 2-3 bad starts away from droppable in an 8 team league. i would almost still be tempted to hold onto utley and hope you get 1st production out of him for free for the stretch run/playoffs.

    how many closers do you start? does axford currently start for you? remember sagnof.

  34. Wilsonian says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: you can virtually start as many closers as you want. We have 3 SP spots, 2 RP spots and 3 P spots. So I start 4 closers all week long unless I happen to have a shitload of starters and need an extra one in there. I’m not too sure about the deal for me either. I like the change in closers, just for job security (hell, I like Bailey over Axford, too). I like Kershaw over Weaver, but not by a TON. Weaver still is pretty damn good, and a number 1. I’m also of the same opinion as you about Utley. If I hang on to him, he could be like a free trade in about 5-6 weeks. I really just wanted to deal for Scherzer and Bailey or Feliz, and then it went all haywire on me. I think I might make a smaller counter, maybe including V-Mart. He’s got way less desirability to me than Utley.

  35. Simply Fred

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    RE All-Star Break boredom:

    Be bold–Propose a trade.

    Be Wild! and Crazy!–Propose two trades!

  36. Vince says:
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    12 teams, H2H, 5×5, Non Keeper

    I give Granderson and Weaver
    I get Holliday and Dempster

    My current outfielders are Granderson, BJ Upton, Quentin, Bruce, Adam Jones (we start 3 + 1 Util)

    My SP staff is Lincecum, Josh Johnson, Johan Santana, Cliff Lee, Weaver, Nolasco, Cueto, Morrow, Volquez (DL)

    Would you make the trade?

  37. polczek5 says:
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    A Razzball Glossary Suggestion/Request

    When a pitcher is spotted a huge lead in the first few innings only to throw so poorly that they can’t make it through the 5 innings minimum.

    The best term I can come up with is win-o-phobia or win-o-phobic, which is my obviously poor attempt at a word for fear of winning.

    Example:
    It was one thing to get roofied by Daniel Hudson this weekend, but did he have to get all win-o-phobic and take my win too?

  38. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Vince: yeah, you can take the small hit from weaver to dempster since they are you SP5 anyway. and holliday is a huge upgrade over grandy.

  39. Mike D says:
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    I have been offered Cliff Lee and Bedard FOR Haren and Volquez in a re-draft.

    I want to accept, but Haren might be traded to a contender and I think Volquez could make a big contribution while Bedard probably won’t be worth much.

    What do you think?

  40. Bucky Dent says:
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    12-team keeper, 5 x 5 with OBP and QS instead of BA and W

    Big trade. I’m in first, he’s in second by a very slim margin.

    I give Justin Upton and Iannetta
    I get Carlos Santana and Nolasco

    We can keep 6. I also have Braun, CarGo, Rasmus and Hart in the OF, and this would help diversify the keeper portfolio.

    Thoughts?

  41. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @gammy: No problem.

    @barker: Sounds good for you.

    @Dr. Orlando Schadenfreude: Nice.

    @Miguel the Mango: Hehe

    @Steve: Yup

    @danimal35: Sean-Rod…

    @Brad Havens: I’d take Markakis.

    @bodymore: Yup

    @Awesomus Maximus: You think I’m Eric Karabell? Shame on you.

    @ASAOK: Gorzelanny…

    @El Famous Burrito: Eh

    @Giacomo: Sure

    @Child Please: Upton

    @royce!: Eh

    @Quintero: Thanks!

    @simply fred: Hehe

    @Vince: What Poon said.

    @polczek5: Eh, not crazy about the word.

    @Mike D: I’d want Lee.

    @Bucky Dent: I’d want Upton.

  42. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: jesus, keep upton! when keeper time rolls around you don’t wanna be keeping brady and…er corey hart. not to mention upton is hands down by far the best player in that deal.

  43. Frank Rizzo says:
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    I wasn’t here on Friday for the Buy/Sell. I noticed Sean Rodruguez was a buy yet again. In my 10 team, I felt lucky to get Howie Kendrick at 2b when Utley went down…..now I’m wondering if SeanRod could offer more in the HR/SB categories. What’s happening in TB with the trio or SeanRod, Bartlett, and Brignac? Is SeanRod an everyday player? Is he an upgrade at 2b over Kendrick?

  44. timSTi says:
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    MIDSEASON CRISIS TIME:

    After 758 innings pitched i have a horrible era of 4.32 and am expectedly in last place. Two guys are ahead of me at 4.0x and then a 3.9x.

    Do i feasably have a chance of catching back up? Middle of the pack in W’s and WHIP, 2nd in K’s.

    My team is starting to fade away in 5th place. It’s a keeper league so I’m not sure when to pull the plug and rebuild. My staff after trades and such looks like this:

    Kershaw, Price, Haren, Vazquez, Sanchez, Lewis, DLR, & Nolaco.

  45. timSTi says:
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    @timSTi: 1300 IP limit too btw.

  46. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @timSTi: i’d give it to the deadline. haren and vazquez have really looked good the last month or so after awful starts. kershaw is moving along fine. price might be a guy worth dealing for the right price ( :-/ ). sanchez has been a bit up and down, but should be at least useful in the right matchups. DLR just came off the DL and both he and nolasco have tended to be 2nd half SPs.

    i took my era down from about 4.50 at the start of june to 4.05 at the allstar break. i just acquired c lee, and hoping to get if around 3.60 by the end of the year.

  47. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @timSTi: if you are gonna make deals, make sure to get guys you are almost positive will positively help your ratios. c lee is a prime example.

  48. El Famous Burrito says:
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    In a 12 team dynasty league. Standard points.

    Who would you rather have, Ian Kennedy or Anibel Sanchez?

    My pitching needs to be stronger to contend this year, but it’s a winnable league for me.

  49. @Awesomus Maximus: Ha. I’m still alive. My visibility tends to wane as the season goes on. I’m like the anti-Teixeira. I still contribute in the round-up (Non-Walker: Texas Ranger was mine) but I only show my face on it if I’ve contributed a bunch. I’ll have a post up soon about my AL-only and NL-only teams. Hoping to find the time to put up a Point Shares for the 2nd half of the year (might be a bit ambitious)…

  50. papasmurf says:
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    Damn too bad Chris Davis won’t qualify for 3b next yr barring something strange happening. I am starting him at 3b now, but even if he has a big 2nd half, I can’t consider him as a 1b keeper.

  51. Wilsonian says:
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    8 Team H2H Keeper, would you deal V-Mart/Axford (and maybe Aardsma) for Scherzer and Feliz (or Bailey)? I have Smooth at C, with Montero and Suzuki available in the pool, so I feel pretty comfortable with those options. Would like the boost in the pitching staff and a more solidified closer. Yay or nay?

  52. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Wilsonian: i’d probably do that if you feel comfortable with scherzer. with those ww options though, i’d imagine an injured vmart won’t carry much weight.

  53. Wilsonian says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: I think he’ll probably be a solid #6 on my roster. I pitched the deal along the lines of what you said earlier and said that he’s a few bad starts away from finding himself in AAA again. The deal also includes Weaver from my side and Kershaw from his in the deal that I offered. And figured if he turned it down, I would send another offer without those two in it. Because I know he likes Kershaw and isn’t fond of giving him up…unless I include Utley.

  54. Yankees2010 says:
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    Hey Grey, I’m getting the sense that you are not much of a Yankee fan. Call it a hunch!

    Yes I was a little disappinted that the Yanks did not get Mr. Lee, but as you alluded to in the article, it could be a lot worse. Having Javy Vasquez as your number 5 ain’t so bad. Although Mr. Oswalt would also look nice in pinstripes, I may actually rather see him in a Metropolitans uniform since I have him on my team and thise park dimensions are quite nice. Nah!

  55. Ron Washington's Stache says:
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    Dump Heilman for any of his bullpen mates?
    If not, what about dumping Heilman in favor of his teammate, Kennedy?

  56. Cal Cheats says:
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    Would you trade Mat Latos for Ryan Zimmerman?

  57. timSTi says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: To acquire Lee I’d have to give up a bat. We keep 7. I was wanting to go into next year with 2 SP’s and 5 hitters. Price & Kershaw were obviousl targets before Haren. Since this is a lifetime keeper league I still like them over Haren.

    My 5 hitters currently are Pujols, Phillips, Youk(losing 3b eligibility hinders him bigtime), Kemp & Cruz. Also have Bruce, Pence, Hart, & C.Santana who I’d like to hold onto, but can’t over those guys.

    I’m stuck who to move. My hitting is carrying me so I’d hate to lose that.

  58. Ron Washington's Stache says:
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    @El Famous Burrito: I’d go with Kennedy.

  59. bodymore says:
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    @papasmurf: I know how you feel, but lets see if Davis can even produce at the major league level with some consistency first. He would have to do some crazy shiz either way to be a keeper.

  60. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @timSTi: in a lifetime keeper, i’d have no problem moving youk, phillips, or cruz for c lee and then just keeping bruce. you since he’s losing 3B eligibility and you have pooholes. cruz is always banged up it seems, and might be a hard trade without him getting hot and injury free for a few weeks. phillips i like but he’s also just kinda boring on his way to another 20-20 year, but if you have a 2B that could fill in i wouldn’t hesitate dealing him if that’s what the other owner wanted.

  61. bodymore says:
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    IS anyone keeping Vlad for next season if he keeps this up for the 2nd half, or do we call this a 1 year resurgence for an old guy?

  62. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: Ha. So when’s Poon gonna get his cool avatar pic? I’ve been seeing “Agree with Poon” very frequently this year. I’d vote for Poon to be Razzball Staff.

  63. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: Ha. So when’s @ThePoonTycoon: gonna get his cool avatar pic? I’ve been seeing “Agree with Poon” very frequently this year. I’d vote for Poon to be Razzball Staff.

    @ThePoonTycoon: He has Kinsler but I know he’s expressed interest in Phillips. So say I acquired Lee. If I’m keeping 2 SP’s of 7 keepers, how do you rank Price, Kershaw, Lee, & Haren?

  64. Smell The Glove says:
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    Looking for CI help for the 2nd half.

    Aramis Ramirez
    Garrett Jones
    Chris Davis

    I just vomited in my mouth a little typing in all those options.

    DAMN YOU MORALES AND YOUR GIMPY ANKLE!

  65. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    @Grey: Hmm… I have to admit, I did get a little carried away with the Karabell theory, my apologies. The rest of the speculations were all sane and legit, though.

  66. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @timSTi: not sure right now. i think barring something out of the ordinary kershaw is the must keep (upside + performance + age). i’d have to see them all shake out between now and the end of the season. i also wouldn’t be married to the idea of only keeping 2 SPs. both haren and lee are young enough that if they finish strong and are in a good situation going into 2011, i wouldn’t hesitate to keep them. i don’t know how offseason trades work in your league, but maybe you could move price for a nice pick upgrade, or pair price and cruz/youk to a team with weaker low end keepers and get a super stud in return?

    either wya, i’d make a deal now for lee if you wanna compete this year, and worry about figuring out keepers later.

  67. timSTi says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: He just sent me an offer of Wright & Lee for Price & Pujols. I’d move Youk over to 1B. Is Wright at 3B comparable to Pujols at 1B with the influx of depth at 1B and the lack of depth at 3B . I could easily move an SP for a bat. This league is huge on SP’s. Everyone is in love with Kershaw. If I did that I’d be left with Lee & Haren as my 2 SP keepers. Don’t like that duo as much as Price & Kershaw.

    Damn midseason crisis. Ha.

  68. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @timSTi: not sure about that deal. i would try to avoid giving up pooholes. try to drop the inclusion of pooholes and wright.

  69. NoEmoJoe says:
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    Who would you drop when J Hey returns?

    Hawpe (5th OF / crowded COL OF w/ Fowler now)
    Chipper (would leave me with Lopez/Davis for 3B)
    Jose Lopez (1B, 2B, 3B elig / 2nd half player)
    C. Davis (I want to give this guy a shot)

  70. TonyCino says:
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    12 team 10×10 roto
    2 catcher league, I have Montero and YMolina, and Carlos Ruiz just came off the DL. I need to cut one, rest of the year keep Ruiz or Yadier? What would help me most is avg and doubles/triples.

    Thanks

  71. Bucky Dent says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon:

    I realize Upton is the best player, but I believe the deal helps me for 2010 without hurting me long-term. Not sure who Brady is, and I certainly wouldn’t consider keeping Hart. Even without Upton, I still have some tough decisions picking 6 keepers from the following:

    Braun
    CarGo
    Tulo
    Kinsler
    Carlos Santana
    Rasmus
    Ubaldo
    Latos

    5 x 5 league with OBP and QS. Feel any better about it?

  72. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: upton is still probably your 2nd best keeper prospect behind braun. dude seriously could be the best players in the major leagues in a few years. only braun on your list has that potential.

  73. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: you can get nolasco for a hell of a lot cheaper than j-up, and santana is still just a C. he’s doing well, but the chances of him putting up pudge/piazza in their prime type numbers are basically nil. and to do this deal, i’d need to believe he’s putting up those kinda numbers in his future.

  74. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    with people going santana and posey crazy grey really needs to institute CAGNOF to go along with SAGNOF.

  75. Joe says:
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    Would you trade Strasburg for Quentin in a H2H league? My pitching is stronger than my hitting and Strasburg won’t be around for the playoffs. Quentin would likely replace Bruce on my roster…

  76. @grey I remember when you first got “the confused one” known as Angel/Pagan and were questioning the move. You were so young then. ;)

  77. Bucky Dent says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon:

    With all due respect, I think you are undervaluing the long-term keeper value of Santana in an OBP league. I think Justin has as much potential as anyone in the game, but he needs to adjust and keep his focus. Not a given. I also think Rasmus and CarGo will surprise you – both should go 30/20 this year.

  78. Carlos Z has slurpees says:
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    Is Bronson Arroyo now the most popular Bron in Ohio?

  79. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: Ron Popeil, set it and forget it. I don’t even look at catchers when sorting for hot players. If people worried about guys that really mattered instead of catchers, the world would be a brighter place. Alas…

    @Joe: Quentin’s fine there, though he’s not that huge of an upgrade over Bruce.

    @NLFantasyBB: We were both younger then!

    @Carlos Z has slurpees: Ha!

  80. Joe says:
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    @Grey: I know this is very vague, but what type of hitter would you aim for in that kind of deal? Position doesn’t matter to me, I can use my util slot.

  81. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Joe: Werth, McCutchen, Dunn…

  82. Smell The Glove says:
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    10 team mixed so yeah it’s pretty shallow.

    Oh, and I didn’t compliment you earlier on the Requiem joke.

    Perfect.

    A good friend, when drunk, and properly provoked will still randomly scream out ASS TO ASS in crowded bars to random groups of women.

    This is of course only done after he’s been shot down when hitting on all of them prior to.

  83. Joe says:
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    @Grey: Awesome, thanks!

  84. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: cargo and rasmus aren’t surprising me. i own them both in leagues. however, i still think upton is the far superior long term player. cargo’s lack of BBs is scary, and la russa barely plays rasmus v. lefties.

    either way even if santana is the beast you imagine him being, i can’t see him putting up near upton numbers when they are both in their primes. toss in the added injury potential and it’s a slam dunk to keep upton imo.

  85. Jenkies says:
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    I have been offered Martin Prado for Jaime Garcia. I would like to move Garcia b/c of his occasional shakiness and innings restrictions. My current 2B is Brandon Phillips. Over the last month, Prado is a slight improvement over Phillips in RBI, SB and BA, a wash at HR, and a step down in runs. Prado doesn’t seem like enough of an improvement at 2B to give up Garcia. Am I a fool to pass on this trade?

  86. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: .259 14 HR 42 RBI 48 R 11 SB .348 OBP

    that’s upton’s line thus far and that’s a pretty huge disappointment thus far from him.

  87. @Grey: Damn, Wheeler shit on your house like Patrick Dempsey in “Can’t Buy Me Love?” You should throw his ass up against the Centipede machine, next time you run into him at the video arcade.

    – Weaver ass-to-ass was classic. Ouch!

    – Don’t mess with the Johan. He’s money at home (as are Los Mets) and if the Amazin’s are in a race, he’ll pitch until his arm falls off. I believe that’s why he’s not been allowed to finish many games that he very well could have earlier in the season. Oh that and he was tipping his change, which he doesn’t seem to be doing any more.

    Hey I for one would like to think my incessant razzing of Frenchy (and maniacal cheering-leading for Angel) at Metco helped. Never did get the girls in angel wings to do their thing, but I guess us sweaty drunk guys did the trick. I swear I saw one tear roll down his cheek as I screamed that yes, they do post OBP on the scoreboard.

    As Kenny “The Hawk,” would say “Good guys one, bad guys nothin'”

  88. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Jenkies: I’d pass.

    @3FingersBrown: Ha, I would slam him into an arcade game.

    Yeah, you were one who did an effort for the Benchy Frenchy campaign. Now if you could get Reyes feeling healthy, that would be awesome.

  89. ScottyM says:
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    Should I lose one of these for Volquez’s return?

    Billingsley, Nolasco, Morrow, Scherzer??

  90. ScottyM says:
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    I could also move one of those guys for Meek to handcuff my Dotel.

  91. Willie Norwood says:
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    If I wanted to turn my Panda into a Zimmerman, would adding Boesch or Krispy to the deal be a fair enough offer?

    He’s currently playing Coughlan and Posada at Util.

  92. Van Hammersly says:
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    Grey, would you drop Wigginton for Crapolanco for my MI slot next Friday/Saturday when the latter is apparently going to come off the DL? I’m in 2nd place overall in my league but my weakest category by far is AVG. If only my league used a “Casey McGehee’s Father” category.

    Thanks. Really looking forward to the 2nd half rankings.

  93. Bucky Dent says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon:

    I hear you. But let’s be honest – Upton has been my fifth best OF this season. And, if you look at his BB/K ratio, BABIP, and supporting cast in Arizona, there is no reason to expect marked improvement over the balance of 2010. I’m playing to win this year, and I honestly don’t think I’m doing unnecessary harm to my long-term prospects of competing.

    Upton will surely keep improving, and I may come to regret the trade in the years to come. Then again, I might not. I traded away Matt Kemp at the end of last year, and I heard an earful at the time (not so much these days). Call me crazy, but I honestly don’t think the dropoff from Upton to Rasmus is going to be nearly as steep (again, OBP league) as everyone might guess. Everyone talks about how young Upton is, but Colby is only 11+ months ahead of him.

    2010 OPS:
    Colby – .914
    Justin – .787

    Justin has all the hype, but Colby is also going to be a superstar.

  94. Seequinn says:
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    @Grey: Trevor Cahill has space for one more on his bandwagon….

  95. @Grey: I’ll make sure to try to sneak some HGH in his sofrito.

  96. Giacomo says:
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    Which side do you like Adrian Gonzalez, Pierre and Hamels for Butler, Posey, Quentin and Garza?

  97. Eddy says:
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    @Grey:
    Hey Grey, I’m wondering if a trade I can pull off would be redundant to my team. This is a 12 team H2H, 6×6 (QS and BB)

    It’d be Jayson Werth and Lindstrom

    for

    Felix Hernandez

    My OF (and two util) without Werth would be:

    Holliday
    CarGo
    Fowler
    LaPorta
    Adam Jones

    My SP is:

    Lester
    Jaime
    Kershaw
    Carpenter
    Wandy
    Gorzelanny

    And my remaining CL would be:

    Simon
    Bell
    Dotel
    Cordero

    What do you think?

  98. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: take away upton’s awful april and his numbers look a hell of a lot better. but it’s your team, i was just giving an opinion since you asked.

    as for the trading away kemp, don’t start celebrating dealing him because he had a half season of batting .260 while still maintaining about a 30-100-30 pace.

    i agree rasmus and cargo are future/budding stars, but i don’t think their ceiling is as high as upton’s. upton walks enough that once his avg raises a little bit his OBP is gonna be closer to .400. who says rasmus and cargo don’t advance as expected next year while kemp and upton are taking leaps forward after a stagnant season?

  99. bodymore says:
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    @Grey: Very funny, obviously it is relative… I was wondering more generally how you and other razzballers felt about his reliability in terms of another season.

    I get 5 keepers, and the only two I’m sure about are Zimmerman and Greinke.

    Then for hitters theres: Morneau, Morales, Quentin, Vlad, Granderson, Stanton, Chris Davis, Laporta

    Pitchers: Haren (Bumgarner, J. Garcia, J Sanchez, Buchholz?)

    Morneau and Morales have their own reliability issues which is why I was wondering about Vlad. Obviously, much could happen from now to the 2011 fantasy draft, but if things ended today which 5 would you keep?

  100. Bucky Dent says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon:

    That is one of many reasons why we play the game – we’ll find out soon enough. I do appreciate your thoughts, and appreciate you weighing in. And just to be clear, I’m not celebrating anything – just trying to invoke a new perspective to the “Justin Upton should never be traded in a keeper league” view that is so prevalent. We get so caught up in individual players, but and the end of the day trades are still about team need and league context – which can only be partially addressed in a forum like this. Still, I value what others think and always enjoy the dialogue.

  101. Dominic says:
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    wheres the love for Jon Jay. I don’t think I’ve seen him up on this site too much but hes hitting a cool .500 over the past 26 ab’s with 2 homers 5 runs and 5 rbis. Where do you think he stands in the 2nd half?

  102. Awesomus Maximus

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    @Rudy Gamble: Somehow missed your post first time through. Good to see your avatar again. I enjoyed all of your pieces in pre/early-season. So, though Grey’s much appreciated expertise and (insane level of) availability is the meat and potatoes of the site, and Smokey and others are the tasty side dishes, I believe you are the spice that puts the meal over the top… and lately my palate has been craving the Rudy spice (that sounds dirty, sorry).

  103. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Bucky Dent: fwiw i’m not saying never trade him, i’m just saying get more in return for him than c santana and nolasco. neither guy is a slam dunk keeper, and santana is a rookie C for gods sakes. look at soto. wieters. iannetta. whatever other hyped C prospect that has shown flashes but hasn’t put anything together for than short bursts of quality play. rarely do having drafting a C high or keeping a C result in helping a team. sure it’s nice to nab a breakout guy like mccann or martin a few years back, but otherwise just sit tight with kurt suzuki or mike napoli or whoever.

  104. Carl Spackler says:
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    Grey, Here is my lineup 10 team h2h. Been a good year for me so far but got rocked last week.

    Napoli
    Howard
    Phillips
    Longo
    Jeter
    Either
    Hart
    Coghlan

    Utl Pena/Gardner
    Bench Bruce, Pacman

    DL Beltran

    Lester
    Verlander
    Buccholz
    Mad Max
    Kershaw
    Hamels
    Wandy
    Dirty Sanchez
    Medlen

    Marmol
    Franklin
    Nunez
    Aardsma

    Does this trade help me I give Howard, Longo, Either, Hart and get Braun, Holiday, Beltre, and AGon.

    I could also offer Hart, Beltran, and Buchholz for Holiday but am I giving up too much?

    Curious on your thoughts on the 2 trades or should I just hold tight?

  105. Big Mike says:
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    Having owned Kerry Wood, Brad Lidge, Matt Garza, and Scott Baker during the 1st half …. I’m VERY aware that ERA/Whip can blow up in a hurry. To hedge against that I’m considering adding two or three of the following Non-closers for the 2nd half:

    Hong-Chih Kuo, Jonathan Venters, Jason Motte, Matt Belisle, Jason Frasor, Jose Veras, Sergio Romo, & Frankie Fransisco. A couple of questions on this approach

    1. Is this effective in H2H or just roto? (for reference, we’re 5X5 H2H)
    2. Am I overlooking anyone significant?
    3. How would your rank them for this strategy?

    Thanks!

  106. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Big Mike: daily or weekly lineups? either way in h2h i wouldn’t really use them simply because if a guy gets blown up 2 innings of shutout ball by a MR isn’t gonna salvage much. furthermore, if MR gets lit up for 3 ER in 0.1 IP he’s not gonna have much chance to mitigate his damage like a SP would with more innings pitched each week.

  107. Howard says:
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    Hi Grey, Am currently drafting for 2011 keeper 5×5 roto. I usuallly draft for position scarcity 2B/3B/SS but not to overlook the big picture. Can you rank these? Cano, Votto, Longoria, Braun, Kemp, J Up, Zimm. Thanks!

  108. Dominic says:
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    What about Corey Hart sipping on some Orange Juice if he gets traded to the Rays how do you think that would work out for him?

  109. aj says:
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    would you trade hart for carlos quinten

  110. I'm so Prado of you says:
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    What is the point of trading Hart for Quentin? Seems like Tomato-Tomato.

  111. cincinnasty says:
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    I need one more ace and can afford to lose a bat
    I got offered the adverb and mike napoli for buster posey and jason werth. I’m trying to get josh johnson off of him. Am I being too greedy

    What do we think?

  112. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @ScottyM: Morrow for Volquez.

    @Willie Norwood: Sure, add Boesch.

    @Van Hammersly: Sure, make the switch.

    @Seequinn: Ain’t happening for me.

    @3FingersBrown: Ha!

    @Giacomo: Butler side, it’s fair though.

    @Eddy: I wouldn’t make that trade.

    @bodymore: Morneau, Vlad and Quentin…

    @Dominic: Was figuring he’d be obsolete by the time I mentioned him.

    @Carl Spackler: I wouldn’t do either.

    @Big Mike: Agree with Poon.

    @Howard: Longoria, Braun, Kemp, Votto…

    @Dominic: Can’t imagine it would chance his value at all.

    @aj: Agree with Prado.

    @cincinnasty: It’s fair, I’d take a Lee.

  113. aconstipatedmonkey says:
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    @I’m so Prado of you: Quentin can get you 15-20 HR and 5 steals in the second half, while hart might hit 10 more HR with the possibility of steals if he ever decides to run again. I think Hart has peaked while Quentin has 2 bad months of the season to make up for.

  114. aconstipatedmonkey says:
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    @aconstipatedmonkey: Of course i’m just hoping for this since i traded away Hart and kept Quentin on one of my teams.

  115. Dumbmutt says:
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    So nice to own both the All-Star game starters.
    Where do you think Fielder ends up?

  116. Fletch says:
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    @Grey: I took your advice and unloaded Latos and Tulo for Lincecum…good move? I have Furcal at SS.

  117. AnotherFalstaff says:
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    Grey – Hold Howie @ 2B or pick up MMD or Beckham on the WW. Feeling a Rockie run in the 2nd half. Thanks!

  118. ASAOK says:
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    Which 3b would you keep onto for the 2nd half…Alvarez or C. Davis?

  119. Chomp Samba says:
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    The Requiem for a Dream simile is genius. The way Weaver pitched yesterday — I think Jennifer Connelly could have hit for the cycle if she was swinging a dildo. (Can too much lube “George Brett” you like pine tar?)

    Curious if you foresee any impactive call-ups happening in the first few weeks after the break.

  120. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Chomp Samba: Thanks! Gordon… Maybe Arencibia….

  121. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Always Gordon. Hehe.

  122. royce! says:
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    Speaking of non-walkers, Viciedo has yet to take a base on balls. I tried to figure out what the longest streak without a walk is but am having no luck because all of my google searches turn up pitchers’ streaks without walks. Anyone have any idea what the longest streak is? Dunston had 2 walks in 255 PA in 1999, and I found this as well: http://tinyurl.com/2us7rbp (listing the players who have had more than 100 K and less than 20 BB).

    Good to know I can keep myself occupied when there are no games being played.

  123. Grey

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    @royce!: Nice… That would be interesting to know, but more interesting if someone else were to figure it out other than myself. Off top of my head, I’d check Olivo’s game logs. He must have some no walk streaks over 50 games.

  124. Awesomus Maximus

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    Anyone want to post their pick for the derby tonight?

    Me… I’m taking Miggy (and a side bet that Grand Papi needs a nap in between rounds).

  125. Grey

    Grey says:
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    ***Did anyone just see Tim Kurkijan pop his head out of Dave Winfield’s jacket pocket? Or did I imagine that?

  126. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: 10 team 7 Keepers (unlimited length)

    MY: Pujols, Kershaw, & other non keeper player (maybe Hart or Pence)

    for

    HIS: Longoria, J-Upton, & Wainwright

    I’ll have Youk to move over to 1B. My keepers would look like Youkilis, Phillips, Longoria, Kemp, Upton, Wainwright, & Price.

    My team look better with this trade for this year and on or should I hang on to the big man Pujols?

  127. Grey

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    @timSTi: I’d take Longoria’s side.

  128. royce! says:
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    @Grey: Well done! That article is hilarious, too. “Even at sixty people thought he was too old, that his bat wasn’t fast enough, any longer, to swing and miss a hanging changeup.” Thanks for locating it.

  129. royce! says:
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    @Grey: I didn’t realize any baseball was on… but I really hope that you didn’t imagine it.

  130. Roll It and Burnett says:
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    @Grey: Which side?

    Pujols, Andrus for A-Gon, Hanley

  131. Kevin says:
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    NL Only, H2H League – Would you trade Jayson Werth, Garrett Jones and Ian Kennedy for James Loney and Johan Santana. If a player is traded from the NL to the AL, he disappears from the league entirely, so Im slightly worried about the AL East rumors regarding Werth.

  132. Grey

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    @royce!: Incredibly, I haven’t watched Baseball Tonight at all this year. Why do they all giggle after everything? TV Analysts have become terrible. I blame Fox Sports.

    @Roll It and Burnett: Pujols side.

    @Kevin: It’s an okay trade. Depends on the guys who are filling in for the parts you’re losing.

    EDIT: Word.

  133. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: Nice! Does this change anything? He countered with this:

    MY: Pujols, Price, Hart, 1st rnd pick

    for

    HIS: Longoria, J-Upton, Wainwright, 4th rnd pick

    10 team 7 keepers so those are 8th and 11th rounders.

  134. Grey

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    @timSTi: I’d still want Longoria, it’s closer though now.

  135. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey:

    Two years ago we had the breakout of Zach Greinke. This year it’s Ubaldo.

    Dare we get your prediction for the next Ubaldeinke?

    And is that word Glossary worthy?

  136. Grey

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    @BigFatHippo: I don’t think I’m at a point where I can make that prediction yet. Too much baseball left.

  137. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: Let me know when you come up with a name, I’ll rush right out and buy him.

    My RCL team is singing the Ballad of Buster Posey right now……………

  138. Kevin says:
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    My pitching rotation is currently R. Oswalt, J. Johnson, J. Sanchez, V. Padilla, M. Bumgarner, T. Gorzellany and I. Kennedy w/ E. Volquez and F. Paulino on the DL. OF is G. Jones, J. Werth, J. Heyward, M. Kemp, D. Fowler, M. Holliday. So Santana would be a little more trustworthy than Padilla or Bumgarner and could protect me in case Oswalt goes to the AL and then Loney would start in UTIL since I have J. Votto at 1B.

  139. BSA says:
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    @BigFatHippo: Why don’t you hum us a few bars?

  140. BigFatHippo says:
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    @BSA: Key of E boys…..

    “Well Buster led a home run binge, eeh ie eeh ei ohh…
    all over Hippo’s worthless team, eeh ie eeh ei ohh….

    and on this binge he had a Prado, eeh ie eeh ie ohh…
    a Gonzo and a killer B, eeh ie eeh ie ohh…….

    Bautista, Cuddles, Big Ryan too, eeh ie eeh ie ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”””””””

    Sung to the tune of some Acid Rock song, feel free to use it as a lullabye tonight, Summerdog!

  141. BigFatHippo says:
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    @BSA: Use Green Jello’s, “Three Little Pigs”. It works…………

  142. BSA says:
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    @BigFatHippo: I’ll be singing myself to sleep as the family is still out of town on vacation. So thanks for the lullabye.

  143. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: I got him to drop his pick down to a 3rd rounder instead of a 4th. I’m pretty happy with this deal.

    ATTENTION HART OWNERS!! SELL AT HIS HIGHEST RIGHT NOW!!!

    He’s got the boomstick.

  144. @Grey: You worried about Chris Carpenter in the second half? I am. With just Johan shipped out to the guy right behind me in the standings, I’m thinking about making an offer for Carp or Dempster. Same seller has both.

    Would you rather have Gallardo or Carp for the 2nd half? I’m thinking Gallardo.

  145. ThE sHiT says:
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    Hey i didn’t know ESPN hired the Aflac Duck 2 do the derby…Back, Back, Back, Back…

  146. cincinnasty says:
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    so i rejected the first offer of cliff lee and napoli for buster posey and jayson werth.

    dude is loaded up on picthing and needs a bat so he offered either fher or j johnson

    who should be my ace for the rest of the season

  147. BigFatHippo says:
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    @cincinnasty: Take JJ and Napoli for Buster, I would.

  148. BigFatHippo says:
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    Buster and Werth I mean……..

  149. Damn this degenerate getting Johan, Krispy and Jenks for a 6th rounder just ruined my day. Worst part is that Johan’s owner didn’t even counter my offer. I’d have definitely matched or better for that package.

    Just sent him an offer of a 6th rounder for Adverb straight up – even though I don’t love him in Texas. Hate these deadline deals in this keeper league.

  150. cubbies299 says:
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    Gavin Floyd or Colby Lewis?

  151. Deeeeeez Nuts says:
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    Span or Pagan?

  152. barker says:
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    i know u hate vetoes but is there reason here to veto

    20 team league hlds

    team A ichiro mike cameron jason vargas
    team B austin jackson callapso sergio romo

    the guy giving up the jackson side is the commish
    vetoes are done through protest to commish so it is not 4 votes to get a veto u have to send a message to the commishioner to voice your opinion

  153. Grey

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    @Deeeeeez Nuts: Tomato-tomahto… Pagan…

    @barker: It’s a terrible trade, but I wouldn’t veto it.

  154. ThE sHiT says:
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    @Grey:
    I never realized how long the derby dragged on. Maybe its cuz in years past ive had shit 2 do and only caught a part of it. I hope ur 2nd half posts will start coming out 2moro so i hv sumthin 2 do, im off wk 2moro. I hate the ASB.

  155. Awesomus Maximus

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    Well, my pick didn’t win the derby, but I’d like to think that my snarky comment is what spurred Ortiz on to grab the trophy. If fact, yeah… I’m gonna’ take credit for that. You’re welcome, Papi.

  156. Eddy says:
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    Corey Hart in 1st round= 1st half

    Corey Hart in 2nd round= 2nd half

    Put that I’m the round up

  157. Grey

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    @ThE sHiT: Yeah, was thinking the same thing. Thing went on for like 3 hours. Way too long.

    @Awesomus Maximus: That was nice of you.

    @Eddy: Ha, nice.

  158. Wilsonian says:
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    Who do you like mas for the 2nd half: Cain o Scherzer? Muchos grassy asses…

  159. Dootdedoo says:
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    Who would you rather have for the rest of this year?
    McCutchen or CarGo? Next year?

    Would you give Weaver and Soria (or Marmol) for McCutchen?

    (doing well in pitching categories, need to take a shot if I’m going to win, but this would mean a lot of streaming for the second half in a 12 team daily league, with only young arms D.Price, Cueto, T.Hunter, Volquez on my team).

  160. royce! says:
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    @Grey: Yeah, I’ve been trying to time my watching Baseball Tonight very precisely to catch only the web gems. I can’t take the rest of it anymore. They never analyze anything in any depth.

    But I decided the other day to give them (and most of the mlb tv people) the benefit of the doubt and say that they must not want to speak poorly about any players because they may have to interview or otherwise encounter those same players. So they can’t say that a player is just getting lucky.

    Long story short, it’s better with the sound off.

  161. @Grey: I think he’s looking to team up with Patrick Dempsey on a new medical drama.

    Hey I have I some concerns about who’s starting this week… I read scattered reports here and there, but I have no idea who of my pitchers will be going after the break. You have a link to see anything like that?

    I’ve currently got:
    Waino
    Hamels
    Hammel
    Cahill
    Slowey
    Medlen
    Kennedy
    Jaime

    Think I should grab another arm just in case? May be futile anyway, since I’m playing the guy who’s got Tim, Felix, Ass-to-Ass, Smugshot (Bills), Oswalt, Neimann and Lilly

  162. @Grey: I imagine we probably read many of the same reports, so a better question would be, do you think I should drop any of the above (Slowey, I’m looking at you) for any of these guys this week?

    Mazzaro
    Grandpa
    Hunter

    Another option would be to drop DeJesus. I’m grasping at straws here. I think I have to stick with what I’ve got and see what happens…

  163. Grey

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    @royce!: Seems like it’s not doing anyone any justice if they’re holding back because they have to interview someone.

    @3FingersBrown: I’m not sure yet, figure it’ll come out on Wednesday.

    @3FingersBrown: Stick with what you have.

    @3FingersBrown: I don’t agree with a lot of those results. Mets fans are more blue collar, aren’t they? These things may have applied in the 80’s.

  164. @Grey: Yeah there’s slim pickings on waivers.

    That poll was a pretty small sample size. I think it’s a lot of nonsense really, but funny regardless. I’d imagine that the fans of both teams are pretty evenly dispersed among blue and white collar fans, depending on where they grew up in proximity to the parks.

    I think the difference might lie in the casual fans who might come from elsewhere and just want to root for a winner – the Yanks. The Mets haven’t gotten that response since the 80’s. Meanwhile in the Bronx back then, Martin was giving Ed Whitson a knuckle sandwich and The Boss was in full dictator mode firing Billy and whoever else on a weekly basis. Those Yanks may not have won, but they made for great reading in the papers!

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