Comments on: Minor League Review, Blue Jays

By: Stephen

Stephen — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:12:39 +0000

I also should have noted that Lou Marson was traded to the Indians in the Cliff Lee deal. The Phillies now have lost their top two rated catchers in the Lee and Roy Halladay trade. If I don’t mention this in the Phillies Minor League Review, someone remind me swiftly.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:40:25 +0000

For all the Blue Jay fans that want to know how Brandon Morrow was treated by the Bavasi regime, look no further:

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/moretopsports/story/1006603.html

By: DrEasy

DrEasy — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:27:23 +0000

Morrow’s home/away splits are scary. I’m afraid he’ll bomb away from Safeco. I’m not touching him in any draft next year.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:13:47 +0000

@sean: Yes, it was Chavez's second time in low-A, however, he was only 19 this year while playing. That is the same age Josh Vitters was in low-A. We all need to keep this trade in check until at least next year. Chavez has to chance and talent to provide major league teams with. Additionally, the likelihood of that is slim, as it is with most prospects.

By: sean

sean — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:05:56 +0000

@mrbaseball:
Rogers Centre is actually a slightly better pitchers’ park than Safeco according to the 2009 park factors offered by ESPN, but Morrow will face more patient and potent lineups in the AL East.

Obviously this deal will be incredibly tough to gauge until he proves whether or not he can give the Jays, or any team, 150 quality innings. He’s only 25, but he’s already battled serious injury and control issues.

League is a very expendable piece and Chavez is only 21. There is some debate as to Chavez’s status; he hit well in low-A last year, but it was his second year there and “well” is a relative term. He hit a ton of bombs, but he only walked 7% of the time while striking out 27%. Again, this is low-A year two . . . not exactly inspiring a ton of confidence about skills translating to the bigs or even further along on the farm.

As far as I can see, the Jays got Morrow for next to nothing.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:36:05 +0000

mrbaseball: I alluded to this trade earlier I’m the comments. the only way this is a push is if Morrow is finally healthy all year. League was a decent mlb reliever, Chavez could turn out like a Jermaine Dye, and Morrow has great talent (he was drafted ahead of Lincecum).

What it does though is allows the Jays to have another decent starting option, even though that increases Morrows risk for reinjury. McGowan and Litsch are back no earlier than late June early September. I don’t want to rank/rate this trade right now for its like walking in the dark – you don’t actually know what’s going on.

By: mrbaseball

mrbaseball — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:27:18 +0000

Blue Jays acquired RHP Brandon Morrow from the Mariners

is this a positive move or negative move for Morrow – or a push

have him in dyanasty league

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:00:59 +0000

@Stephen: I'm through with H2H now, though. I'm hoping it will make me a better, more balanced person.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:55:30 +0000

@Steve: True enough. Granted, I was assuming you were playing in a normal 12 team league, but you know what they say about assuming right?

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:52:23 +0000

@Stephen: Ignore me – just the ravings of a demented madman.

Guys like Overbay and Bautista seem to get hot for about one week a season – usually at a time that’s most inconvenient for me in an H2H league.

It’s possible, though, that my perceptions have become a bit warped…

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:40:43 +0000

@Steve: Awesome, congrats... Not on your residual bitterness, but on your successful move.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:34:57 +0000

@Grey: And I tried so hard to make that comment generic. I really do need to let it go I guess. Move went fine - it's great to finally be in. There are boxes everywhere though.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:32:17 +0000

@Steve: Who? Lind, Halladay (pre-2010), Hill. Who else is going to do anything for the Jays?

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:26:18 +0000

@Steve: Good to see the holiday season doesn't dull your H2H bitterness. How'd the move go?

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:22:03 +0000

The Jays are full of guys that only get hot when your h2h opponent has them.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:15:06 +0000

@Nick0rz: Hehe... Yeah, exactly.

By: Nick0rz

Nick0rz — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:14:15 +0000

@Grey: I think the better question is, how could you remember him?

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:23:58 +0000

@Nick0rz: Ah, Bautista... How could I forget him?

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:23:17 +0000

@Nick0rz: Thanks for the compliment. I could see Overbay being around until June to save arbitration years.

By: Nick0rz

Nick0rz — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:20:10 +0000

@Stephen: If he's around in June, colour me pink. The Jays have so many guys who they could use instead of Overbay (Ruiz, Dopirak, Wallace, Lind, Snider etc), that it would be crazy to keep him around. Plus, the Jays have shown a willingness to pay for part of the contract, (see: Haladay, Roy), that a team may be willing to take him off the Jays hands. Great run down of the system though.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:05:49 +0000

Everyone should go thank Marc Hulet for this on Johermyn Chavez:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/who-is-johermyn-chavez

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:02:56 +0000

@Nick0rz: That was what I figured, but plans can change. Come June, Lyle Overbay may be wishing he played else where.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:58:10 +0000

@mrbaseball: That is definitely a good thing. @guy caballero: Yeah, I remember noticing that about Daly when doing the research, just missed it when writing the article up. My bad. In regards to Alvarez, and actually most of the technical information on the top prospects, Baseball America (2009) said that his Change-Up was decent. just not great. It could very well be that his change-up has improved a lot this year. And you are right that it projects to be a Plus-pitch, it just wasn't there yet. Thanks for the corrections though. They're much appreciated. Additionally, the acquisition of Morrow for League and Johermyn Chavez seems quite pricey for an injury prone pitcher. I know League doesn't compare to Morrow in talent, but GM Jack Zduriencik (or other Seattle scouts) must see something in Chavez that they like. With this trade, I would put Chavez in the "Player of Interest," even with the abundance of outfielders in the Mariners farm system. The trade of Gillies to the Phillies (from SEA) makes room for Chavez, albeit, Gillies was at High-A this year. @sean: Maybe Wells? Alex Gonzalez actually seeks plausible, but probably should hit in the bottom third of the lineup. However, like Nick said, Bautista will probably get the majority of the AB at the top of the order.

By: Nick0rz

Nick0rz — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:54:26 +0000

Wallace is going to be playing 1B, and will most likely start the year in AAA (as per Alex Anthopolous). Overbay is as good as gone at this point.

Cito Gaston has also said that Bautista will be leading off. He has a good OBP, and decent power, but he’s useless against rightys.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:46:58 +0000

@sean: Overbay could work with his OBP, maybe Hill.... Can't be Gonzalez. For everyone's sake.

By: sean

sean — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:41:22 +0000

Without Scutaro and Rios, any idea who is going to leadoff for the Jays? Alex Gonzalez? Vomit.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:27:38 +0000

@mrbaseball: re: hot dog price -- Ha!

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:27:08 +0000

@mrbaseball: I'll be covering the Vazquez trade in tonight's post.

By: guy caballero

guy caballero — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:38:30 +0000

Not a bad review. However, Daly made a cameo for the Blue Jays – the Dunedin Blue Jays; Mills’ cameo was mid-season, not September; and Alvarez’s changeup is his best pitch and it projects at least plus.

By: mrbaseball

mrbaseball — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:27:38 +0000

The trade allows Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes to remain in the bullpen. so that is a good thing