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	<title>Comments on: Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero, Fantasy Implications</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1196824</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keeper league conundrum... In my league we are able to keep up to 6 players and they have different values based on a formula of where they were drafted + highly sophisticated ESPN 2012 Player Rater. 

I can&#039;t seem to narrow down to 6. Please help.

Here is my problem with players and round drafted or picked up, which counts as a last round pick:
Miggy Cabrera 1st
Evan Longoria 2nd
Justin Upton 3rd
Mike Stanton 6th
Starlin Castro 8th
Desmond Jennings Pick up
Alex Gordon 22nd
Matt Moore Pick Up
David Price 11th
Gio Gonzalez 19th
Brandon Beachy 21st

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeper league conundrum&#8230; In my league we are able to keep up to 6 players and they have different values based on a formula of where they were drafted + highly sophisticated ESPN 2012 Player Rater. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t seem to narrow down to 6. Please help.</p>
<p>Here is my problem with players and round drafted or picked up, which counts as a last round pick:<br />
Miggy Cabrera 1st<br />
Evan Longoria 2nd<br />
Justin Upton 3rd<br />
Mike Stanton 6th<br />
Starlin Castro 8th<br />
Desmond Jennings Pick up<br />
Alex Gordon 22nd<br />
Matt Moore Pick Up<br />
David Price 11th<br />
Gio Gonzalez 19th<br />
Brandon Beachy 21st</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1132716</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-2/#comment-1132657&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheNewGuy&lt;/a&gt;: 

I&#039;m not a huge Bruce fan, i mean i like him, but dont love him. I&#039;d probably do the one year, because even if he exceeds the $28 it wont be by that much that you cant get him back. He&#039;s all power numbers to me. you dont get worth near $30 without being huge in runs/SBs/average as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-2/#comment-1132657" rel="nofollow">TheNewGuy</a>: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a huge Bruce fan, i mean i like him, but dont love him. I&#8217;d probably do the one year, because even if he exceeds the $28 it wont be by that much that you cant get him back. He&#8217;s all power numbers to me. you dont get worth near $30 without being huge in runs/SBs/average as well.</p>
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		<title>By: TheNewGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheNewGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re still checking this thread Albert, wonder if you could help me out. Looking for a 2nd opinion (won&#039;t tell you what Grey said!), on how many years to give Bruce. I think it&#039;s between 1 yr at $25 or 2 yrs at $28. Which do you like best.

Is there any chance Bruce could develop more in the future into say a 2nd round player? If there is id be willing to take the small hit next year, to get the potential reward the year after with a 2 yr deal. Or is he what he is (if so the more I think about it the more I think 1 yr)? Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re still checking this thread Albert, wonder if you could help me out. Looking for a 2nd opinion (won&#8217;t tell you what Grey said!), on how many years to give Bruce. I think it&#8217;s between 1 yr at $25 or 2 yrs at $28. Which do you like best.</p>
<p>Is there any chance Bruce could develop more in the future into say a 2nd round player? If there is id be willing to take the small hit next year, to get the potential reward the year after with a 2 yr deal. Or is he what he is (if so the more I think about it the more I think 1 yr)? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1131366</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-2/#comment-1129959&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yeah, I Remember When&lt;/a&gt;: 

Thanks for the comment. If you can find any source that says Montero has the skills to catch, let me know. I also did say that Montero was more likely to gain catcher eligibility with the trade. The Yankees and most of baseball do not believe Montero can catch. Of course, if that bat develops, it mitigate a lot of substandard defense.

Its just a fact that pineda will be throwing in harder ballparks and his fly balls are going to be worriesome.

As noted, the trade makes sense for both teams. Some seem to believe the Mariners should have gotten more for a stud pitcher with years of control, especially because they could have gotten Montero for Clilff Lee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-2/#comment-1129959" rel="nofollow">Yeah, I Remember When</a>: </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. If you can find any source that says Montero has the skills to catch, let me know. I also did say that Montero was more likely to gain catcher eligibility with the trade. The Yankees and most of baseball do not believe Montero can catch. Of course, if that bat develops, it mitigate a lot of substandard defense.</p>
<p>Its just a fact that pineda will be throwing in harder ballparks and his fly balls are going to be worriesome.</p>
<p>As noted, the trade makes sense for both teams. Some seem to believe the Mariners should have gotten more for a stud pitcher with years of control, especially because they could have gotten Montero for Clilff Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah, I Remember When</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeah, I Remember When</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 06:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Schmohawks Bob&lt;/a&gt;: 

yeah, &#039;cause it&#039;s already a foregone conclusion that Montero&#039;s NOT a catcher.  There is still a fair bit of time for that to happen.  I know that the M&#039;s have a very young rotation (that just got younger now that Paxon&#039;s pretty much set in the rotation and Hultzen&#039;s not too far behind), but that does not necessarily mean that Montero can&#039;t catch.  The fact remains:  he&#039;ll be splitting time with Olivo and learning from Jaso (perhaps the smartest person in the Major Leagues) while playing 1/2 the time at DH.  If Montero keeps Catcher eligibility, plays 1/2 of his PAs as a Catcher, he&#039;s UBER vaulable.  This is a win for Montero owners in the sense that the M&#039;s will be trying him at Catcher and letting him take his lumps.  The Yanks would have pulled him during his first 0fer-week slump.  Pineda, however, scares me a bit in Yankee stadium, but hi fly ball tendencies are exaggerated.  His xFIP was 3.51 at home, 3.55 on the road.  

I see it as a win-win for both teams, with the possibility of it being a trade that both teams look back in 5 years and saying &quot;we did damn well&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128449" rel="nofollow">Schmohawks Bob</a>: </p>
<p>yeah, &#8217;cause it&#8217;s already a foregone conclusion that Montero&#8217;s NOT a catcher.  There is still a fair bit of time for that to happen.  I know that the M&#8217;s have a very young rotation (that just got younger now that Paxon&#8217;s pretty much set in the rotation and Hultzen&#8217;s not too far behind), but that does not necessarily mean that Montero can&#8217;t catch.  The fact remains:  he&#8217;ll be splitting time with Olivo and learning from Jaso (perhaps the smartest person in the Major Leagues) while playing 1/2 the time at DH.  If Montero keeps Catcher eligibility, plays 1/2 of his PAs as a Catcher, he&#8217;s UBER vaulable.  This is a win for Montero owners in the sense that the M&#8217;s will be trying him at Catcher and letting him take his lumps.  The Yanks would have pulled him during his first 0fer-week slump.  Pineda, however, scares me a bit in Yankee stadium, but hi fly ball tendencies are exaggerated.  His xFIP was 3.51 at home, 3.55 on the road.  </p>
<p>I see it as a win-win for both teams, with the possibility of it being a trade that both teams look back in 5 years and saying &#8220;we did damn well&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1128453</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Schmohawks Bob&lt;/a&gt;: 

Well, for fantasy purposes if he has catcher eligibility, he&#039;s a catcher. It doesnt matter to fantasy that he cant field the position worth a lick.

Pineda had a very poor chance at wins in Seattle. While he is in a tough ball park and will pitch against stiffer competition now, he will get more wins for the Yankees. So, you lose some ratios but give wins, that&#039;s why his value remains largely static.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128449" rel="nofollow">Schmohawks Bob</a>: </p>
<p>Well, for fantasy purposes if he has catcher eligibility, he&#8217;s a catcher. It doesnt matter to fantasy that he cant field the position worth a lick.</p>
<p>Pineda had a very poor chance at wins in Seattle. While he is in a tough ball park and will pitch against stiffer competition now, he will get more wins for the Yankees. So, you lose some ratios but give wins, that&#8217;s why his value remains largely static.</p>
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		<title>By: Schmohawks Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schmohawks Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A catcher who can&#039;t catch is a DH.  A pitcher who has to move from Seattle to Yankee Stadium and facing AL East lineups most of the year is less valuable from a fantasy perspective.  A lose, lose from my perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A catcher who can&#8217;t catch is a DH.  A pitcher who has to move from Seattle to Yankee Stadium and facing AL East lineups most of the year is less valuable from a fantasy perspective.  A lose, lose from my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128249&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up&lt;/a&gt;: That&#039;s a good question. I feel like the return the Padres got for Latos is better than what the Mariners got. Grandal is a legit catcher.

The Rangers would have been interest i have to imagine. But yeah, hard to say who they could have gotten, but it seems like Latos got more talent in return]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128249" rel="nofollow">Wake Up</a>: That&#8217;s a good question. I feel like the return the Padres got for Latos is better than what the Mariners got. Grandal is a legit catcher.</p>
<p>The Rangers would have been interest i have to imagine. But yeah, hard to say who they could have gotten, but it seems like Latos got more talent in return</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128139&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Albert Lang&lt;/a&gt;: 
I couldn&#039;t imagine them doing much better without spending a boatload of cash...who would have been better?  I realize that most NYY prospects are overrated, but Montero&#039;s bat is legit.  .300 hitter with 25-30 HR power is very rare, sans steroids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128139" rel="nofollow">Albert Lang</a>:<br />
I couldn&#8217;t imagine them doing much better without spending a boatload of cash&#8230;who would have been better?  I realize that most NYY prospects are overrated, but Montero&#8217;s bat is legit.  .300 hitter with 25-30 HR power is very rare, sans steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up&lt;/a&gt;: Naps and sundays are synonymous. I&#039;ve taken one the last two days (of course i&#039;ve been up early with the pup, but napping is essentially for a health disposition).

Drinking still? i&#039;m impressed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128057" rel="nofollow">Wake Up</a>: Naps and sundays are synonymous. I&#8217;ve taken one the last two days (of course i&#8217;ve been up early with the pup, but napping is essentially for a health disposition).</p>
<p>Drinking still? i&#8217;m impressed!</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128041&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up&lt;/a&gt;: 

I&#039;m with you that this makes sense for the Mariners - they can create pitchers (Fister, Vargas, etc.) and have a lot of SPs in the minors who seem capable. Where the Mariners are getting dinged is that they traded a hot commodity for a DH and they could have had that same DH not too long ago, so it&#039;s a little odd from that standpoint. it makes sense, but you can imagine the Mariners doing better. And, as you laid out, this works pefectly for the yankees. I doubt this will be Jeff Weaver deux.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1128041" rel="nofollow">Wake Up</a>: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you that this makes sense for the Mariners &#8211; they can create pitchers (Fister, Vargas, etc.) and have a lot of SPs in the minors who seem capable. Where the Mariners are getting dinged is that they traded a hot commodity for a DH and they could have had that same DH not too long ago, so it&#8217;s a little odd from that standpoint. it makes sense, but you can imagine the Mariners doing better. And, as you laid out, this works pefectly for the yankees. I doubt this will be Jeff Weaver deux.</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...quick nap for me.....I gotta wake up and finish 2/3 of a keg by myself tomorrow/later today.

PS does the fact that I hit submit comment about 20 seconds too soon, give it away that I&#039;m still drinking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;quick nap for me&#8230;..I gotta wake up and finish 2/3 of a keg by myself tomorrow/later today.</p>
<p>PS does the fact that I hit submit comment about 20 seconds too soon, give it away that I&#8217;m still drinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Wake Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woah, I usually am late to the party but this is ridiculous.  I feel like I&#039;m rolling in the keg after everyone&#039;s already passed out.  But, that&#039;s cool cuz I&#039;m still thirsty and I haven&#039;t beaten myself in a game of beer pong in ages.  This trade makes perfect sense to me.(Just imagine a better transition there).
The M&#039;s desperately needed a bat.  Install cleanup hitter and the next Edgar Martinez...(Alright maybe not, not even Jesus can hit like Edgar(but he does play a better firstbase)).
The Yanks got the arm they needed and losing a DH-only hitter is not as difficult to replace.  It might be a different story if he was gonna catch and replace Jorge, but he wasn&#039;t going to catch in NY.
Since the M&#039;s needed an immediate replacement for the loss of an arm, Noesi pitches in the bigs this year.  Campos restocks the farm for NY, which, if you visit in July, you can pick your own blueberries.  Good times.
Pineda will probably stuggle a little out of the gates and end up with a ERA around 4ish.  I&#039;d rather have Kennedy on my team this year but the Yanks are better off with Pineda long-term.  Alright, time for a q]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, I usually am late to the party but this is ridiculous.  I feel like I&#8217;m rolling in the keg after everyone&#8217;s already passed out.  But, that&#8217;s cool cuz I&#8217;m still thirsty and I haven&#8217;t beaten myself in a game of beer pong in ages.  This trade makes perfect sense to me.(Just imagine a better transition there).<br />
The M&#8217;s desperately needed a bat.  Install cleanup hitter and the next Edgar Martinez&#8230;(Alright maybe not, not even Jesus can hit like Edgar(but he does play a better firstbase)).<br />
The Yanks got the arm they needed and losing a DH-only hitter is not as difficult to replace.  It might be a different story if he was gonna catch and replace Jorge, but he wasn&#8217;t going to catch in NY.<br />
Since the M&#8217;s needed an immediate replacement for the loss of an arm, Noesi pitches in the bigs this year.  Campos restocks the farm for NY, which, if you visit in July, you can pick your own blueberries.  Good times.<br />
Pineda will probably stuggle a little out of the gates and end up with a ERA around 4ish.  I&#8217;d rather have Kennedy on my team this year but the Yanks are better off with Pineda long-term.  Alright, time for a q</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are your thoughts on Kuroda for next year? I can keep 5 and think he&#039;s on the outside of my top 5... Who ya got? Shields- 9, Pence- 12, Andrus- 18, Stubbs- 12, McCann- 16, JWeeks- 10, Papi- 5, Kuroda- 3, Hanrahan- 3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are your thoughts on Kuroda for next year? I can keep 5 and think he&#8217;s on the outside of my top 5&#8230; Who ya got? Shields- 9, Pence- 12, Andrus- 18, Stubbs- 12, McCann- 16, JWeeks- 10, Papi- 5, Kuroda- 3, Hanrahan- 3</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1127867&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robinson Checo&lt;/a&gt;: I have Kennedy as my 33rd ranked pitcher. Pineda is 45.

Obviously, I give Kennedy credit for being solid for a bit longer than Pineda. I see Kennedy capable of a 3.30 ERA, 200 Ks and a 1.15 WHIP.

I had Pineda, now, at 180Ks with a 3.75 ERA and 1.18 WHIP.

There&#039;s a lot more unknown and risk involved with Pineda, so I&#039;d stick with Kennedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1127867" rel="nofollow">Robinson Checo</a>: I have Kennedy as my 33rd ranked pitcher. Pineda is 45.</p>
<p>Obviously, I give Kennedy credit for being solid for a bit longer than Pineda. I see Kennedy capable of a 3.30 ERA, 200 Ks and a 1.15 WHIP.</p>
<p>I had Pineda, now, at 180Ks with a 3.75 ERA and 1.18 WHIP.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more unknown and risk involved with Pineda, so I&#8217;d stick with Kennedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robinson Checo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robinson Checo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keeper question: 

Pineda or Ian Kennedy? Would the Yanks rather have Kennedy back, or is Pineda better?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeper question: </p>
<p>Pineda or Ian Kennedy? Would the Yanks rather have Kennedy back, or is Pineda better?</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1127857</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1127731&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony&lt;/a&gt;: The most annoying thing is if the Mariners really liked Montero, could have had him for Cliff Lee. Instead they traded as good a pitcher who was far cheaper...it&#039;s just silly. I understand what the Mariners do and I think they need to trade pitching for hitting, but Pineda should have commanded more. I dont think Montero is the next Edgar Martinez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1127731" rel="nofollow">Tony</a>: The most annoying thing is if the Mariners really liked Montero, could have had him for Cliff Lee. Instead they traded as good a pitcher who was far cheaper&#8230;it&#8217;s just silly. I understand what the Mariners do and I think they need to trade pitching for hitting, but Pineda should have commanded more. I dont think Montero is the next Edgar Martinez.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1127731</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125734&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Albert Lang&lt;/a&gt;:  Yeah I figure Montero&#039;s a great prospect, Noesi COULD be great, but those are all IF&#039;s....  Potential for a guy who&#039;s logged a solid year and shown he&#039;s probably going to be an absolute ace, ughh, terrible move if you ask me, SEA should start playing for the NOW not 2-3 years from now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125734" rel="nofollow">Albert Lang</a>:  Yeah I figure Montero&#8217;s a great prospect, Noesi COULD be great, but those are all IF&#8217;s&#8230;.  Potential for a guy who&#8217;s logged a solid year and shown he&#8217;s probably going to be an absolute ace, ughh, terrible move if you ask me, SEA should start playing for the NOW not 2-3 years from now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125736</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 03:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125709&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Griff&lt;/a&gt;: 

If anything this helps Montero. I cant imagine he has catcher eligibility in many/any leagues. The Yankees were not using him as a catcher and i think the Mariners are more apt to use him.

With Smoak/Ackley/Ichiro hitting in front of him, the RBIs could be there. Runs wont be though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125709" rel="nofollow">Griff</a>: </p>
<p>If anything this helps Montero. I cant imagine he has catcher eligibility in many/any leagues. The Yankees were not using him as a catcher and i think the Mariners are more apt to use him.</p>
<p>With Smoak/Ackley/Ichiro hitting in front of him, the RBIs could be there. Runs wont be though</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125734</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 03:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125657&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tony&lt;/a&gt;: 

Hey Tony - definitely annoys fans of other teams as it seems like Pineda was worth more. You just have to tip your cap to Cashman though. 

Still Noesi could end up being a very good pitcher, so it&#039;;s not widely in the Yankees favor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125657" rel="nofollow">Tony</a>: </p>
<p>Hey Tony &#8211; definitely annoys fans of other teams as it seems like Pineda was worth more. You just have to tip your cap to Cashman though. </p>
<p>Still Noesi could end up being a very good pitcher, so it&#8217;;s not widely in the Yankees favor</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125709</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any thoughts on how this affects Montero in keeper leagues?  Will he have catcher eligibility for a number of years?  Will he be able to put up any counting stats in Seattle&#039;s lineup?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any thoughts on how this affects Montero in keeper leagues?  Will he have catcher eligibility for a number of years?  Will he be able to put up any counting stats in Seattle&#8217;s lineup?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125657</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, jumping in late on the conversation, but any the hoo, I got a text from a buddy last night, he said Pineda to the Yanks for jesus montero and all I can think in this situation is the yankees, behind the scenes have to be shoveling money to their trade partners?

Seriously does anyone else think this?  Why on gods green earth would you have felix hernandez and Michael Pineda, who just put together a very impressive rookie year and deal him for a HYPED catcher prospect????  SERIOUSLY!  how many effing &quot;cant miss&quot; prospects MISS!!!!!  Such a joke of a trade.  Good for the yankees, you totally swindled the Mariners, you made one of the worst teams in baseball look like one one of the worst teams in baseball, and for that i say, WELL DONE.

It&#039;s just sad, I hope Pineda does well, but now that he&#039;s a yankee ughhh, i hate it, how do teams get these deals.

If I&#039;m a GM and i can get a proven player (pence, CC in the clev trade, etc etc) Im doing it all daylong and twice on MUESDAY!  

damn its good to be a gangsta....  

cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, jumping in late on the conversation, but any the hoo, I got a text from a buddy last night, he said Pineda to the Yanks for jesus montero and all I can think in this situation is the yankees, behind the scenes have to be shoveling money to their trade partners?</p>
<p>Seriously does anyone else think this?  Why on gods green earth would you have felix hernandez and Michael Pineda, who just put together a very impressive rookie year and deal him for a HYPED catcher prospect????  SERIOUSLY!  how many effing &#8220;cant miss&#8221; prospects MISS!!!!!  Such a joke of a trade.  Good for the yankees, you totally swindled the Mariners, you made one of the worst teams in baseball look like one one of the worst teams in baseball, and for that i say, WELL DONE.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just sad, I hope Pineda does well, but now that he&#8217;s a yankee ughhh, i hate it, how do teams get these deals.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m a GM and i can get a proven player (pence, CC in the clev trade, etc etc) Im doing it all daylong and twice on MUESDAY!  </p>
<p>damn its good to be a gangsta&#8230;.  </p>
<p>cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125410</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125404&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DS&lt;/a&gt;: 

Well I&#039;d take King Felix, he good. Hamels is no slouch though.

I&#039;d also roll the dice on Rasmus, but Hellickson is the safe choice. 

Freeman is a fine player but totally replaceable. He&#039;s basically Gaby sanchez. I&#039;m not sure Minor will get consistent starts to be honest (would rather have Beachy).

With McCutchen, you dont really need steals (i.e., Weeks), so I&#039;d go Ackley or just keep Montero and hope he regains catcher eligibility (it&#039;s not that crazy; it could definitely happen, then he&#039;s a huge value).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125404" rel="nofollow">DS</a>: </p>
<p>Well I&#8217;d take King Felix, he good. Hamels is no slouch though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also roll the dice on Rasmus, but Hellickson is the safe choice. </p>
<p>Freeman is a fine player but totally replaceable. He&#8217;s basically Gaby sanchez. I&#8217;m not sure Minor will get consistent starts to be honest (would rather have Beachy).</p>
<p>With McCutchen, you dont really need steals (i.e., Weeks), so I&#8217;d go Ackley or just keep Montero and hope he regains catcher eligibility (it&#8217;s not that crazy; it could definitely happen, then he&#8217;s a huge value).</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Albert Lang

Thanks, it&#039;s a 4 Tier keeper system based on round drafted. Can keep 1 player from each tier.  Kept players move down a tier each year until put back in player pool.  Looking at Felix or Hamels at 1, McCutchen at 2, 3 is a rough spot right now with Hellickson or Rasmus as choices or try to trade for another tier 3.  4th options you saw above.

No faith in Freeman taking another step forward or Minor being the stud everyone thought he was going to be out of the gate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Albert Lang</p>
<p>Thanks, it&#8217;s a 4 Tier keeper system based on round drafted. Can keep 1 player from each tier.  Kept players move down a tier each year until put back in player pool.  Looking at Felix or Hamels at 1, McCutchen at 2, 3 is a rough spot right now with Hellickson or Rasmus as choices or try to trade for another tier 3.  4th options you saw above.</p>
<p>No faith in Freeman taking another step forward or Minor being the stud everyone thought he was going to be out of the gate?</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125394</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125384&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DS&lt;/a&gt;: 

I&#039;d take Montero if he has catcher eligibility.

Otherwise it&#039;s a coin flip between weeks and ackley. Kind of depends on other keepers. I&#039;d take Ackley slightly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125384" rel="nofollow">DS</a>: </p>
<p>I&#8217;d take Montero if he has catcher eligibility.</p>
<p>Otherwise it&#8217;s a coin flip between weeks and ackley. Kind of depends on other keepers. I&#8217;d take Ackley slightly.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So picking one out of the following as a keeper (4-year keeper limit, H2H)...
Jesus Montero
Dustin Ackley
Jemile Weeks
Freddie Freeman
Brandon Belt
Mike Minor
Brandon Beachy

... what&#039;s the play there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So picking one out of the following as a keeper (4-year keeper limit, H2H)&#8230;<br />
Jesus Montero<br />
Dustin Ackley<br />
Jemile Weeks<br />
Freddie Freeman<br />
Brandon Belt<br />
Mike Minor<br />
Brandon Beachy</p>
<p>&#8230; what&#8217;s the play there?</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1125284</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125151&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Wolfpack&lt;/a&gt;: 

If you can get a few owners on your side, that might work.

Oh wait, this isnt the ridiculous NBA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1125151" rel="nofollow">The Wolfpack</a>: </p>
<p>If you can get a few owners on your side, that might work.</p>
<p>Oh wait, this isnt the ridiculous NBA.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pineda throws gas.  He looked unhittable during parts of last year.   My sense is he can only get better as he matures and learns how to pitch.  He can be anchor for that Yanks rotation for years.  I am a Red Sox fan but think New York definitely found themselves a young stud - when they had a surplus of young catchers in the system and Russell Martin did a decent job last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pineda throws gas.  He looked unhittable during parts of last year.   My sense is he can only get better as he matures and learns how to pitch.  He can be anchor for that Yanks rotation for years.  I am a Red Sox fan but think New York definitely found themselves a young stud &#8211; when they had a surplus of young catchers in the system and Russell Martin did a decent job last year.</p>
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		<title>By: The Wolfpack</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wolfpack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I own both in a dynasty, big money league and demand this trade be rescinded.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Albert Lang</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/#comment-1124964</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://razzball.com/?p=22156#comment-1124964</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1124951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;: Its amazing what one trade does. The Yankees were all but set and now we get to think about their rotation, DH and potential additional free agents.

I see the Yankees as always willing to spend (spend baby spend), but you&#039;re right that they&#039;ve intimated that there is a budget and they would be at it with the Kuroda signing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/michael-pineda-for-jesus-montero-fantasy-implications/comment-page-1/#comment-1124951" rel="nofollow">Jay</a>: Its amazing what one trade does. The Yankees were all but set and now we get to think about their rotation, DH and potential additional free agents.</p>
<p>I see the Yankees as always willing to spend (spend baby spend), but you&#8217;re right that they&#8217;ve intimated that there is a budget and they would be at it with the Kuroda signing.</p>
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