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People love Michael Bourn.  Color me confused.  I am far and away the lowest on Michael Bourn out of every ‘pert both sides of the Mississippi and Canada, unless the Mississippi runs through Canada and that’s being redundant; I have no idea.  Last year, he had more plate appearances than Prince Fielder, Billy Butler and Pablo Sandoval combined (talking off the diamond plate appearances, which is obviously much higher than on the field ones for those three).  Bourn’s PAs numbered 722 and he would need that to repeat his 60 steals from last year.  That was the 4th highest plate appearances in the majors last year.  To count on 722 plate appearances again is a horn bet.  I have his projections down for 90/2/40/.280/50.  That seems more than fair.  If he pulls a hammy, then his value, which is all tied up in his legs like any good piece of chicken, is kaput.  But we’re going to assume he does steal 50 bases and no witchcraft I do will work.  So why then is Michael Bourn overrated for 2012 fantasy baseball?

SAGNOF!  You knew it was coming.  I knew it was coming.  It was only a matter of time.  Saves/Steals Ain’t Got No Face.  Today, we’re talking about the steals side of the equation.  What kind of face do steals have?  No face.  Let’s look at the ZiPS projections for one player:  In 489 plate appearances, 64/1/24/.273 with 44 steals.  This player is none other than Tony Campana.  That’s the Tony “I’m Not Drafted In Any League” Campana.  Want another one?  Here’s a guy’s 2011 numbers:  69/8/54/.264/49.  That’s Coco Crisp.  He’s being drafted about 20 outfielders after Bourn on average.  Not to mention, how many homers are you getting from the rest of your team to put Bourn on your team as your first outfielder?  You need 20 homers per player in 12 team leagues.  Don’t think about drafting a Bonifacio at middle infield or any other steals-only player, because then you’re doomed to be power light.  Finally, I’ll lay on you a credo that’s not a credo but more of a metaphor.  This has been said ad nauseam on this site, but here’s it one more time.  (If you’re reading this on a roller coaster, you may barf.)  You can always trade closers.  There’s only so many of them in the league at any given time and people will lose one and need another one.  On the other hand, speedsters are like new cars.  They’re pricey and lose their value the minute you drive them off the lot.  Bourn’s on some expert lists around Josh Hamilton, Hunter Pence or Nelson Cruz.  Seriously, try to draft Bourn, then trade him for one of those other outfielders right after the draft.  You’ll be having buyer’s remorse almost immediately.

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    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Steve, Never know when the Pirates need to bunt over… Wait, who’s their eight hole hitter again?

  1. neogonzo mourning says:
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    i’ve been staring at this comment field for 3 minutes trying to come up with a Bourn Supremacy joke. FORGET IT

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @neogonzo mourning, Michael’s got me bored supremely? It’s like people have forgotten Bourne’s identity?

      • neogonzo mourning says:
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        @Grey, i predict a fifth sequel, it’s called The Bourn Illegitimacy!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @neogonzo mourning, Hmm… All right now!

  2. Chris says:
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    Couldn’t agree more. I suggest a large part of the love comes from those who worship at the altar of the ESPN Player Rater.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Chris, Yeah, agreed.

      • Chris says:
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        @Grey, Just been looking at the first Mock Draft on ESPN. I’ll give you one guess who drafted Bourn at #39 overall…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @Chris, Can’t imagine…

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey, Mass took Papi at #51. Must have had his Mr Met costume on and clicked the wrong guy in the draft app.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @Steve, Ha!

  3. royce! says:
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    Playing poker last night, I asked a friend who is not a baseball fan but is good with puns to come up with a fantasy team name for me. He suggested “Padre Charles,” i.e., Pad-Ray Charles, to which I added “in Charge.”

    Which got me thinking of how great a comedy skit of “Ray Charles in Charge” could be. Sure enough, In Living Color did it in their first season. Back to the drawing board!

    On a side note, was there a team in the RCLs last year named “Definitely, Maybin”? I thought of it, but it seemed very familiar; maybe it was a post title?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @royce!, Maybe Jim Carrey is a time traveler and he read your suggestion then went back and did that sketch. Anyone know if Carrey plays fantasy baseball?

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey, I’ll get you, Carrey!!! [shaking fist at sky]

        I’m sure if he did, he’d be trolling the comments section of Razzball. He’s funny like that. He’s funny like us.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @royce!, What’s an emoticon for stretching one’s face?

          • royce! says:
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            @Grey, (0____0) ?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @royce!, Nice

    • Steve says:
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      @royce!, Your friend is obviously a real ‘Joker’.

      • royce! says:
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        @Steve, Yeah, he’s a barrel of something… It’s funny- he constantly comes up with great zingers in the moment, but not if put on the spot, so all he could come up with was that Padre includes the word “Ray,” phonetically. What am I supposed to do with that? “Padre Durham?” “Pad Everybody Loves Raymond?”

        • Steve says:
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          @royce!, I’m glad you didn’t go with that last one. I’ll probably be turned back at the arrival gate of every US airport for saying this, but I’m completely baffled by all the awards and plaudits for that show. It would have to be one of the least funny TV programs I’ve ever seen. Not that I’ve watched it often, but I don’t think I’ve ever laughed once.

          Grey – if you worked on that show, I am genuinely sorry for disparaging it like that and I will post some of the TV commercials I wrote back in the day for you to poke fun at.

          • royce! says:
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            @Steve, I concur. That and Two and a Half Men. Blech. The popularity of those shows is a stain on whatever is left of the American reputation for comedy.

            • B.o.B. says:
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              @royce!, Wow I’m so glad to be reading this! Of course I find people that have senses of humor in common with me on the Razzball forums! I have never understood the popularity of either of those shows! I’ve had so many arguments with family & friends about how terrible they are. Another one is the Big Bang Theory. How anybody can sit there and spend 5 minutes, let alone an entire 30 minute episode, watching that garbage is mind boggling to me. My top 5 sitcoms on TV right now: Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, It’s Always Sunny, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Parks & Rec…hurts to not be able to put The Office on this list anymore, would’ve been my #1 a few seasons back.

  4. Wake Up says:
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    It will be interesting to see when he goes in the RCLs…on ESPN but by loyal Razzers…

    Any projections for Myers closing?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up, Closer shizz tomorrow…

  5. Random Collmenter says:
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    1. I’d like to hear Albert Lang’s response to this – he’s high on Bourn this year.

    2. When is the podcast coming out!?!?!?! I’m dying.

    3. With Seth Smith AND Yoenis Cespedes, the A’s really have an entire Lisper’s Nightmare Outfield.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Random Collmenter, 1. He is high on him. 2. We recorded our first one last night. Waiting to hear it myself. 3. Ha!

  6. Buddo Chezuski says:
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    Has anyone put together an excel file that has Grey’s top 300 alongside Yahoo/ESPN/other rankings?

    • L-Boogie says:
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      @Buddo Chezuski, I’m working on my annual rankings spreadsheet that includes Grey, CBS, ESPN, Yahoo, MLB, and many others. 9 or 10 total depending on haw many magazines I want to buy. So far I only have Grey and CBS but working on the rest.

      • Buddo Chezuski says:
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        @L-Boogie, awesome. I usually make something but have been a lot busier this year. I hope you’ll be able to share yours.

  7. Juan says:
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    @Grey: What do you think of Allen Craig with 2B eligibility in Yahoo leagues? Will he be able to get enough AB over Jay with Beltran moving to center when Craig comes back? Might be a nice power play at MI.

    • Grey

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      @Juan, He needs to recover physically and then not break down again. He could get enough ABs in deeper leagues.

  8. Bada Bing says:
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    Grey, if typing “Mike Stanton” gave you a semi, how big is the bulge in your pantaloons when you type Giancarlo Stanton?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Bada Bing, Thinking of it, I can’t type. That big.

  9. Bourne says:
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    Michael Bourn is not to be confused with any amateur fantasy enthusiasts or bamf secret agents who have an e at the end of their names. However, he is fast. SAGNOF!

  10. bazzrall says:
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    What do you think of an A-Rod for Granderson trade in a keeper? I asked about a Grandy for Lawrie trade in another thread, because I’m hoping I can flip Grandy easier than I can A-Rod, since it’s a keeper. If I do end up keeping Granderson though, Moustakas/Trumbo will be my starting 3B with Aviles for backup.

    • Grey

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      @bazzrall, You don’t have the corner men to do the trade.

  11. Colour says:
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    Hey Grey, gotta choose 4 keepers for my league. Keeping Kemp, Hanley, Wright for sure, but gotta choose one of Pence, Uggla, Mauer, Kimbrel, Shields, Garza. Who should I pick?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Colour, Uggla

  12. sean says:
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    Grey, totally agreed on all points above.

    Also, heard you last Friday night on the SXM Fantasy Drive as I was headed to Boston to see the Punch Brothers. Good job!

    • Grey

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      @sean, Thanks!

  13. daniel says:
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    20 teams 25 keepers. 6×6 with OPS and Holds as the extra cats. Thinking about moving Andrew McCutchen for Chris Young and Anibal Sanchez. I need the extra arm. I know Young’s AVE will be killer but I’m thinking about punting batting ave all together. I know its not the most ideal option but think its necessary with where my team is. I’m already relying on Goldschmidt, Espinosa, and Cozart, who will all kill my ave. What do you think?

    • royce! says:
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      @daniel, I’d hold McCutchen. You should be able to land at least a top 10 SP for him.

      • daniel says:
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        @royce!, Thanks for the reply royce. What do you think about McCutch for Crawford and Latos? I know its better but how much better?

        • royce! says:
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          @daniel, Not enough better that I would make the trade. Will no one give you a one-for-one trade for a top SP? I mean, McCutchen should really net you a top 5 arm or a top 10 arm plus something else in the top 50, at least. In such a deep league there’s bound to be someone who needs a top OF keeper.

          • Daniel says:
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            @royce!, The thing is I need the arm but with as little effect to my offense as possible. Its a league going into its 4th season and I took over a team last season that had mark buehrle and bronson arroyo as my best starters and chris young and victor martinez as my best bats. Needless to say the team was neglected and missed managed before I took over, so I need to lose as little production on offense that I can while gaining production from my staff

  14. Commish Cauda says:
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    20-team, H2H-Points League

    Rank’em for who would you rather have for the next five years:

    Cliff Lee
    Adrian Beltre
    Ryan Zimmerman

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Commish Cauda, Zimmerman, Lee…

  15. Cityhobb says:
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    I would be in confused love with Mr. Bourn…IF he were playing a MI spot. His stats coming out of SS or 2B would just fine. In order for me to draft an all-steals OF ahead of say the 12th round, that OF better be competing for the league lead in RS to balance it out. But these types of guys never do, because they don’t hit enough homers (that score themselves automatically).

    • Grey

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      @Cityhobb, Totally agree…

  16. Confusedcious says:
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    Having trouble deciding on my 5th keeper in a 10 team Yahoo league (3 OFs) 6×6 with OPS and K/BB. There is no penalty or service time limit for keepers. My first 4 are M.Cabrera, Cano, J.Upton and D.Jennings. Leaning toward M.Trout for the last spot, even though that would be 3 OFs and I don’t know how much he’ll help this year.

    Other options include Youkilis, I.Kennedy, Pineda, D.Hudson, Beachy. What say you, Razzballers?

    • Grey

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      @Confusedcious, Hudson

  17. Wilsonian says:
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    Just wanted to update you on my 16 Team H2H Keeper scenario. I was trying to get someone to replace Kimbrel in my 5 keepers, as I’m sure you’re aware. So I just swapped Konerko for Price (I wasn’t keeping Konerko anyway). You like this as a starting five in a 16 Teamer?

    1) Tulo
    2) #yabuddy
    3) Stanton
    4) Price
    5) Lester

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wilsonian, Nice on number two… I like it better, well played.

  18. Lance Berkman says:
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    Grey I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Bourn’s ADP has him going in the 5th round, right around guys like Hosmer, Gordon, Choo…and that’s where he belongs. The other OF you mentioned are always taken before him. I wouldn’t trade Hamilton for bourn if I needed major speed, but I’d do it for the guys taken in his round in a second. I do agree that it’s preferable to not put all your steals in one basket, but sometimes the draft dictates this, and your only option is to take a HR/RBI killer or punt the category. I’ve done mocks where I’ve drawn a top 3 pick..I’ll take pujols with my first..and by the time I pick again Reyes, Hanley, McCuth are all gone..so I go Stanton and Wright leaving me with not many steals. For the 4/5 turn theres no real speed threats without liability elsewhere so I’ve taken Uggla and bourn, figuring all my power with a 30/100 guy at 2nd will make up for bourn. After five rounds I have roughly 130/80. If it was availible to me and I went kemp, mccuth, tex, Hosmer, Lawrie..I’m looking at 135-85ish..and that’s me cherry picking an ideal situation. Obviously I’d like to spread my speed out, but sometimes you can’t. And I don’t agree that you can make a comparison to crisp and call it even. I can do that with votto and konerko (or myself)…they’re still different players. Bourn hinders you in HR and RBI…he’s not a one trick pony. He scores runs and has a neutral effect on BA. Hes a two category liability, not a 4. I can make the argument that many power hitters outside of the elite ones put too much of a drag on runs scored, making them 3 category liabilities. And please, someone don’t bring up Gardner. I do believe that the two are very similar and you would be better off waiting on Gardner, but if you miss him …outside of him there aren’t speed guys that can give you 50+..just a bunch of 25-30 steal guys that may hit .230 and score 60 runs. That’s a one trick pony. Last year bourn gave 33% of what you needed to maybe win steals. That’s the equivalent to a hitter giving you 100 homeruns. If a hitter could give me 100 homers but no steals and only 50 runs scored (I know that scenario is impossible)…I’d take it and make up the difference elsewhere. I think grey just digs the longball. Xoxo

    • Grey

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      @Lance Berkman, As you see at #71 for Bourn here: http://razzball.com/2012-point-shares-12-team-mlb-espn-roster/

      He’s not just a plus guy, but he’s also a major negative in power and negative in RBIs. Not to mention, you are putting all your steals in one basket. If you take Pujols, Uggla and Stanton with Bourn and something happens to Bourn, you’re done. If you do balance then grab a 4th or 5th or UTIL guy that gives you an extra 25 steals, you’re way better off. Anyway, say hello to Matheny for me.

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @Lance Berkman, you should change your name to devils advocate… haha

      • duder says:
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        @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, Totally agreed. You won’t gain much traction here with that argument, but if you build your roster correctly Bourn is huge. He is now the ONLY consistent 50+ steal guy in baseball. Bourn + Stanton, for example, is the equivalent of two Andrew McCutcheons. If Grey could draft two McCutcheons with his 3rd and 5th picks, he would.

        He also is in a contract year. See Figgins, Shawn, and Pierre, Wahn.

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      @Lance Berkman, And by contract year, I mean that a player actually can will himself to more SBs, unlike HRs. I see a big season from Bourn.

    • birrrdy! says:
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      @Lance Berkman, The 100 HR comment is just silliness, and also a bad comparison. What you’re missing is home runs give you an edge in 3 categories. 100 HRs also equals 100 extra runs scored, and probably about 200 RBIs. Steals are just steals. Grey is not fascinated with the long ball, he just understands fantasy baseball, and simple math.

      • LANCE BERKMAN says:
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        @birrrdy!, well disciple I noted that the statement was ridiculous but i was trying to make a point. I actually debated writing that analogy because I knew someone would take it literally and challenge me on it. Yes, a homerun taken by itself gives you a run and an rbi and a steal just gives you a steal. Thanks…I got it now…unfortunately, the stats are tallied over the course of a season so we need to take all TOTAL stats into account, not an assessment of a single homerun. But thanks anyway…i’m sure Grey appreciates the defense. Maybe you can get a free shirt.

  19. Cityhobb says:
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    In five years in my current league I’ve finished top three in steals every year, without spending a high draft pick on pure speed. You want some coverage on this? Take Dee Gordon in the 12th/13th round. He’ll probably put up the same BA as Bourn, score 80+ runs and this out of the SS slot to boot. I just try to hang in there until September, there is always some 22-year old call-up on a crap team that the manager green lights during the last month who gives you 12-15 cheap steals. Top Three. Done. You wanna play OF on my team you either hit 20+ homers or challenge for the batting title.

    • Grey

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      @Cityhobb, Yup, agreed…

  20. The Looch says:
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    Hey Grey, how did I do in my new keeper league?

    Traded Haren and Bourn for Gallardo and Heyward. Would have kept Choo instead of Bourn, but thought Heyward’s upside was too much to turn down.

    • Grey

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      @The Looch, It’s fair… Could work huge for you…

  21. chata says:
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    @ Grey :

    Wait .

    So , if i read this correctly , if you and Jim and Huck Finn are floating
    down the Mississippi , like the 3 raftees that you’d be ,
    then , you’d draft Bourn ?

    From what i remember , you could use his speed once you reached
    dry land .

    • Grey

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      @chata, Or a tomahawk…

  22. 3FingersBrown says:
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    @Grey, In 12 team mixed H2H where we keep 5 counting AVG+OBP where would you take Bourn this year?

    The OF is extra slim with all the top guys kept. My league tends to undervalue speedsters, often creating opportunities to get them under-market value (Bourn went in the 13th last year). That said, I’ve always been able to find steals on waivers.

    According to some ADP’s (that don’t count OBP) that I’ve seen – I’m looking at Holliday, Cruz, Gordon, Choo, Victorino, Bourn, Choo, BJ, Hart, Jones or as the 1st OF’s of the board.

    Ugly, I know. How would you rank these schmo’s?

    • Grey

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      @3FingersBrown, The top schmos wouldn’t change from my rankings…

  23. Awesomus Maximus

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    I have been flabbergasted every time I see what people pay for him in my mock auctions. I have to remember to look 100-some places lower on the rankings to find him and cross him off my list. Hope it spills over into my real draft.

    • Grey

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      @Awesomus Maximus, Yeah, I thought of it the other day when he went in our LABR draft in the 3rd round.

      • Awesomus Maximus

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        @Grey, 3rd Round? Stop the insanity, Susan Powter. At least it’s NL only (right?), but still. He’d have to double his CAREER total to give you teen HRs.

        • Grey

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          @Awesomus Maximus, Nope, that was mixed draft. We took Nelson Cruz about ten picks later. Was the draft where we got Longoria and A-Gon with our first two picks.

          • Awesomus Maximus

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            @Grey, Mixed? This is Leap Year Day, not April Fool’s Day, yeah? Did you post this draft yet? My interest is thoroughly piqued now.

              • Awesomus Maximus

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                @Steve, Wow, wow, wow. Lot’s of 2B/OF love turned into two awesome picks to start the draft at 11/15… not that the rest of the picks are stinkers, by any stretch.

            • Grey

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              @Awesomus Maximus, It’s being posted tomorrow.

              • Awesomus Maximus

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                @Grey, Nice… looking forward to your (and Rudy’s?) thoughts on some of those picks.

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                @Grey: I went through this thread looking for this topic to comment on, solely because of how crazy I thought Keri’s pick was. Dunno if you read him, but I actually really like his writing about real baseball. He actually commented on it in a post today about how he’d been playing FBB since 1991 and took Bourn in that spot to lock away steals for the rest of the draft…uhhh, whatever, I guess.

                His team actually ended up not being terrible, but looking at that draft, and how much better his team could’ve been if he’d taken someone else there, is a perfect example in favor of your entire point with the Bourn post.

                Oh, and when you say you took Lingo and AGon with 1/2, you make it seem as if Lingo was first pick. It was just a little funny because that would’ve actually been more believable, getting Lingo where you got him was awesome. I would take that as my corner spots every day of the week and thrice on Sunday, you must have literally been writhing in your seat hoping he would stay on the board that last pick or two before you took him.

                • Grey

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                  @McBainus, We were writhing, for sure. I don’t know his writing, but I’ve heard good things. I have nothing nice to say about his team. Looks pretty terrible to me.

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                    @Grey: Out of curiosity, why did you decide to take Lincecum in the 3rd round? I was a bit surprised by that and figured it was just because you locked 1B/3B so solidly, that you figured you would have an easier time filling out your offense than normal, so you took an ace with consistency early.

                    Then you also took another pitcher earlier than you normally would recommend. Did you and Rudy talk before the draft about making your pitching staff a little more secure than usual?

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                      @Grey: Oh yeah, and why on earth did you reach for Ichiro at 101 when you have him ranked at 148? Was Rudy adamant? That was the strangest pick of your draft, in my opinion.

                    • mcbainus says:
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                      @Grey: Alright, last one. Just have to say something about Tom Trudeau’s team – maybe one of the worst ever drafted. How did he get an invite?

                      P.S. Here is Keri’s article. Some good stuff, but I don’t agree with many things. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but it seems he should stick to writing about real baseball.

                      http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7628497/welcome-give-crap-school-fantasy-sports

                    • birrrdy! says:
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                      @mcbainus, It was probably Rudy’s doing! ;)

  24. Beau says:
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    Need some advice for keeper auction league…can keep up to 8 players at last years price and then they go up $5 next year. 1 team roto 5×5

    Right now Im set on keeping:
    Ellsbury (10/15)
    Montero (1/6)
    Dom Brown (1/6/16)
    Harper (1/6/16)
    Trout (1/6)
    Matt Moore (1/6)

    My initial thought was to keep Daneil Hudson (4/9) and Ian Kennedy (2/7) but Im considering Sabathia at $16 and Jered Weaver at $14 instead. Any thoughts?

    • Grey

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      @Beau, CC and Sabathia… Though not sure how many teams…

      • Beau says:
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        @Grey, CC AND Sabathia? I assume you meant CC and weaver? Its 10 teams. I was thinking maybe weaver and kennedy but it would be nice to lock down a couple top tiered starters who I have a lot more confidence in.

        • Grey

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          @Beau, I did mean those two… Sorry… Definitely in 10 teams… Some of your other keepers are kinda crazy in a 10 team league too. You playing for 2013?

          • Beau says:
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            @Grey, Not really I finished 3rd last year with great pitching and lost most of my top bats (youk, nelson, choo). Just have a young team and think I can take advantage of having a lot of money left over to reload. I could keep brandon phillips (17) vmart (15) or mark reynolds (12) but I dont see much value there.

            • Grey

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              @Beau, Dom Brown, Harper and Trout are gonna be nearly useless in a 10 team league this year. Definitely Reynolds over Brown.

  25. Dylan says:
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    I have a plethora of CI options in my 12-team dynasty league. Morse, Miggy, Lind, Panda and Hosmer. I put it out there that I’d like to trade one of them for OF/SP/C help. The largest interest has been in Hosmer. What OF/SP do you think would be a good return on 10+ years of the Hos? I know he’s not a sure thing, but he looks pretty locked in. Just trying to gauge what I should be looking at in return. THANKS!

    • anarchy burger says:
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      @Dylan, hosmer for matt moore sounds fair to me

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dylan, Ugh, you have to lose Hosmer in a dynasty? Prefer to lose Lind or Panda… Can’t you do that?

      • Dylan says:
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        @Grey, I can, but not going to get the return, ja no? Any chance Lind goes back to the OF this season? I am thin with Hart/Morse/Revere/Quentin/Frenchy/DYoung in the OF

        • Grey

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          @Dylan, Probably not Lind going to the OF. Just hate to give up Hosmer in a dynasty I’d aim very high with him for trades.

  26. Van Hammersly says:
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    Hi Grey. Would you mind opining on this 12-team mock? Round is in parentheses. I think speed is lacking (no true SAGNOF doods; Cespedes’ potential was too much to turn down in Rd. 19), but otherwise I think this is a nice team. Thanks, Sensei!

    C – Arencibia (21)
    1B – Lind (10)
    2B – Utley (5)
    3B – Beltre (3)
    SS – Ramirez (2)
    CI – Youkilis (7)
    MI – Kipnis (14)
    OF – Braun (1)
    OF – Jennings (6)
    OF – Stubbs (8)
    OF – Morrison (11)
    OF – Rasmus (16)
    UT – Cespedes (19)

    P – Greinke (4)
    P – Latos (9)
    P – Morrow (12)
    P – Putz (13)
    P – Street (15)
    P – Minor (17)
    P – Chacin (18)
    P – Francisco (20)
    P – Peavy (22)
    BE – Fuentes (23)
    BE – Venters (24)
    BE – Pestano (25)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Van Hammersly, I like the team a lot. Your first ten picks were great… Little bit risky towards the end of your pitching but nothing terrible. I like it.

  27. Bfeels says:
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    Im in a league with 5 keepers (first five of draft). My last keeper is likely Price. Another guy in the league is stacked and offered me his 2nd and 3rd round pick for my “keeper spot” and my last round pick. Basically, he will give up picks to keep six.

    There is no rule per say against this but it seems shady…is it a ligit practice? If so, I think I can replace the value of Price with the extra 2nd and therefore get a free 3rd pick for my last pick. Seems like a great deal for me, correct? Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Bfeels, Yeah, go for it.

  28. Hotrod says:
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    I am entering a 14 team league as one of 2 expansion teams, 4 player keeper league. So the original 12 teams get to keep 4 players each. So, of whats left, I get the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th picks. The following 4 players are my targets. Please rank. Thanks

    Hosmer
    Lawrie
    Jennings
    Cruz

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hotrod, Lawrie, Hosmer, Jennings…

  29. Drkness says:
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    Hi Grey, wondering what you think about drafting need vs value.
    I’m in a 12-man league with 5 keepers, and the majority of the league vastly overvalues SPs. None of my keepers are pitchers (Kemp, Stanton, Hamilton, Pedroia, Teixiera). So obviously my offense is in good shape and I could use some pitching. By the time my first pick rolls around, there will probably be top 40 offensive players left, and the top pitcher left will be someone outside of your top 80. Also it’s a head to head league 6×6 (ops, hd).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Drkness, That’s a tough call. Gotta go for value, but you need some sorta pitching.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @exactly, I think he calls it a cutter. Well, tomato-tomahto, but I’m not concerned.

      • exactly says:
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        @Grey, oh, well, now i feel better..when is rudy’s post on injury-ish pitchers coming out?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @exactly, I think in the next week or so…

  30. Hotrod says:
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    Grey,

    I am entering a 14 team league as one of 2 expansion teams, 4 player keeper league. So the original 12 teams get to keep 4 players each. So, of whats left, I get the 1st, 3rd, 5th and picks.
    This is the player pool left that I am interested in. Could you rank the best 8 players for a keeper league going forward out of this pool(IE how you think this expansion draft should go)? Thanks a lot!! Draft starts tomorrow AM.

    Lawrie
    Hosmer
    Jennings
    Pence
    Victorino
    Morse
    Utley
    Werth
    Harper???

    Haren
    CC
    Weaver
    Hamels
    Greinke
    Price
    Strasburg
    Yo
    Lester
    Cain
    Bum
    Matt Moore
    Pineda

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hotrod, Lawrie, Hosmer, Strasburg, Jennings, Bum, Moore, Pence, Price…

  31. DHill Dragons says:
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    It’s ok by me. One of those guys when somebody else drafts him way too early, I can just scratch him off and smile…

  32. JaHerer22 says:
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    I couldn’t agree more. In a league with 8 keepers I just traded Bourn for Michael Young and a upgraded draft pick. I’m not a huge Young fan but he’s probably better than any 3B I could get after the 9th round of the draft.

    Now the question is who do I keep as my last keeper? It’s coming down to B.J. Upton or Alex Gordon. J-Up is my first outfielder, OPS is an extra offensive category. I could also keep them both and not keep Utley, but leaning towards one or the other at this point.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JaHerer22, Depends who your other keepers are…

      • JaHerer22 says:
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        @Grey, right now I’m looking at:

        1) Votto
        2) J-Up
        3) McCann
        4) Grienke
        5) Hamels
        6) Michael Young
        7) Utley
        8) B.J. /Alex Gordon/Crispie Young/Pineda

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @JaHerer22, Then Upton…

  33. Giancarlo says:
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    Didn’t Campana only have 24 steals last year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Giancarlo, Yeah… And?

  34. Bombo Rivera says:
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    You obviously should have waited for today’s release of Matthew Berry’s rankings before writing this schmohawk post. He has Bourn at. . . wait for it. . .

    26th.

    Not the 26th OF, 26th overall.

    The next 5 OFs after Bourn on his list are Hamilton, Grandy, Cutch, Bruce and Holliday. I encourage everyone in my RCL to follow Berry’s advice religiously.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Bombo Rivera, No, he’s not at 26 overall, c’mon. That’s crazy talk. You pulling my leg, Bombo?

  35. Drexel Hill Dragons says:
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    I’m hearing that Robinson Cano is expected to hit 3rd in the Bronx this year. How much of a boost does that give his value? I would think his runs scored and RBI could be up by as much as 20%? Also, he didn’t really run much at all before, so I don’t really see that changing for better or worse with Tex & A-rod behind him.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Drexel Hill Dragons, 20%? He had 120 RBIs last year… He’s not getting 145 RBIs.

  36. Drexel Hill Dragons says:
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    I was thinking more that the runs could climb as much as 20% which would put him around 120 and his RBI’s could be up to the 130 range (he had 118 last year).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Drexel Hill Dragons, I wouldn’t count on any of that.

  37. Matt B says:
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    Hey Grey need some help w/ 7th (and 8th rd picks) of my Keeper league (keep 5 or 7 free)

    12 Team, 5×5 (OBP instead of avg), weekly h2h 1-win
    Start 9 bats, 4 SP/ 2RP
    I’ve got
    SS/3B Hanley
    3B R Zimmerman
    OF N Cruz
    OF H Pence
    SP Kershaw
    SP Felix

    I’m up w/ pick 83. Then the same guy has 84 & 85 and then I’m up at 86.
    SP is drafted early in this league, and very thin. Best avail: CJ Wilson, Gio, Latos, D Hudson++ (and beyond)
    1B is a waste land, might be time to take 1B Berkman and his nice OBP. Owner of #84/#85 only has Napoli and no other 1B. Best avail (Berkman, Cuddyer, Lind, Ike Davis…)
    2B is an obvious need but I still like a decent chunk of the best avail (Utley, Kendrick–ugh obp, Zobrist, Weeks)

    Should I go Berkman and then best avail 2B with the pick 3 spots later? I hate taking him in the 7th round of a keeper league but it gets ugly fast at 1B.

    Thanks!

    • Matt B says:
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      @Matt B, Also avail: Wieters, Stubbs, Adam Jones, Victorino,

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Matt B, Berkman and a 2nd baseman, yeah…

  38. Grey

    Grey says:
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    ****THERE’S A NEW POST BY MOI*****

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