Comments on: Max Scherzer, 2012 Fantasy Sleeper

By: Aaron

Aaron — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:58:24 +0000

Who would you keep? I’m torn.

Gio Gonzalez @ $10
Max Scherzer @ $5

BTW, I really enjoy your rankings. Your site is great to follow.

By: chata

chata — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:56:37 +0000

@Steve: you are excluded from using me , in your comment #51 , as there's not much that i do like . and , in this case , (like many others) , i have no idea what you guys are talking about .

By: chata

chata — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:39:05 +0000

Grey is the author of c)

@ Grey
am ‘way’ late to the discussion , but ,
gio in the top 20 has gotten you “way” out on the ledge .

yeah , there’s the trade-off of the oakland colossal-seum for the
no ‘DH’ (and the mets) of the eastern national , BUT ,

the kid’s a whiner , i tell ya !

consider going from the cool oakland nights to the hot-as-hell
D.C. summers .
that attitude ain’t gonna do you no favors .

197 k’s is a razz-full , but the few times that i watched him pitch , he
didn’t attack the hitters to my liking (<== seems absurd , i know) .
is he a nit-picker ?
i don't know .

cust kayin' ….. pizz off a few hot-under-the-collar national league umps ,
with their strike zone , and we could be looking at 165/125 (k/bb) ratio .

find your k's elsewhere , my friend .

and don't worry , you still have the lead role in my up-coming reality show .
the title is still to be decided .
what do you think ?
a) the Deadliest K(atch) ,
b) Bizarre K's
c)
d) Picker K's

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000

Oh – and Lady Sybil is HOT.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:21:34 +0000

@Grey: I quite like it but could see why you (and other Americans) might not like it so much.

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:17:17 +0000

@Wake Up: I just did a Downton Abbey marathon, what a bore. @ahwood23: I'd take McCutchen, but salaries do matter.

By: ahwood23

ahwood23 — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:58:57 +0000

Have a couple dynasty questions for you:

I was offered (his) Moustakas and Hultzen for (my) Belt and Mesoraco – thoughts?

Also was offered (his) McCutchen and Zack Wheeler for (my) Bryce Harper and Mesoraco – leaning away from this one, as Harper is cheaper and locked up long term in our league, but contracts and everything else being even, how would you handle those 2 offers?

Thanks!

By: exactly

exactly — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:35:01 +0000

@MH: I like your argument, but I just have a feeling that the move from AL to NL isn’t going to help Gio as much. I like your call on Garza, he performed well towards the end of the season and his overall peripherals show a decent improvement this year, that is until he gets traded back to the AL East and goes all AJ Burnett on us.

By: Wake Up

Wake Up — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:52:33 +0000

I’m half way through an American Pickers marathon and 2/4 of the way through a bottle of Eagle Rare and we’re both about to hit the honeyhole. Thanks for all the interest today. Either you think Bumgarner is gonna turn into Kershaw or he’s gonna have a season like Hanson just did, there is no C. I don’t know why. There just isn’t. You know where I stand, but now I’m sitting. Imma stand up and see if this chick wants to check out my small sample size. So, as Faulkner once told Hemingway, “You do you and imma do me.”

By: Wake Up

Wake Up — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:42:56 +0000

You da man Grey!

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:35:50 +0000

@EDUB: He was in the top 20 before the trade.

By: EDUB

EDUB — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:18:23 +0000

Would Pineda in Seattle have cracked the top 20?

I traded Jennings (since I had Crawford and Fellatio) for Pineda instead of Latos the day before Pineda got dealt, and then to top it off about a week and a half later Crawford has wrist surgery. What a way to start my offseason

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:53:50 +0000

@Tom Thumb: Don't be jinxin'. @Public Enemy #1: It's on...tomorrow!

By: Public Enemy #1

Public Enemy #1 — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:46:58 +0000

@Grey

I might take a flier on that. Probably as a number 3 or 4 though. Either way, he’ll be cheap and the Ks are nice. I think there’s probably more upside with Scherzer in h2h leagues though. Looking forward to 21-40 tomorrow…let’s do this!

By: Tom Thumb

Tom Thumb — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:44:04 +0000

Will likely take a lot of Scherzer types as well and avoid drafting from the top tier. But I worry about guys like Scherzer and Bumgarner who have completely lost their mechanics before for months at a time…

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:42:10 +0000

@Tom: 10th-ish...

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:38:27 +0000

Grey what round do you think ike davis will be going this year – 12 team h2h

By: Grey

Grey — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:17:41 +0000

@centralohguy: Ugh, yuuuup. @OaktownSteve: I hear ya. @Public Enemy #1: Fair point, but I think he can take another step forward with his walks and in turn his WHIP.

By: Public Enemy #1

Public Enemy #1 — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:59:54 +0000

I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t think a legit number two should set you back at all in Whip, ERA or Ks. They should only help to offset what the back end of the rotation can’t quite do.

By: Public Enemy #1

Public Enemy #1 — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:40:55 +0000

Grey, thanks for continuing to put out decent reads instead of the mainstream garbage that other more well known sites put out. That said, I think you have Number Two Starter-itis. Your perception of what it takes to be a number two is a little off. Scherzer would be a nice number two in a pretty deep league (15+ teams), but I don’t think he fills the void in a 10 to 12-teamer.
I get what you’re kind of saying though. I suppose if things break right, he could be a number two in regard to a couple categories. However, if he’s relied on as a number two and puts up a 3.70/1.30 then a lot has to be un-done with the number three, four and five starters from a team’s fantasy roster just to get into the mid-to-upper echelon of the ERA and Whip categories (Think 7 points or so in a 10 team league, maybe 8 or 9 in a 12 teamer.

By: JoeC

JoeC — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:15:57 +0000

@OaktownSteve: ZOMG, you watched playerz with your eyezzzzz. You are so stupid!

By: OaktownSteve

OaktownSteve — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:12:59 +0000

His walk rate went down but his WHIP went up and his K rate went down. I watched him pitch a few times last year and he still seems like a thrower to me. He can either be wild outside the strike zone or wild inside it (meaning getting too much plate). I’d like to see some progression in his command of the fastball. That said, it’s a nice price for a guy with the talent to put together a good season. I’m just not quite sold on him based on the ol’ eyeball test.

By: centralohguy

centralohguy — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:39:28 +0000

@Grey: Wonder how many Hester clones will be sitting at live fantasy auctions bidding people yuuuuup this year. Steve made a good point about Scherzer being not quite as desirable in QS leagues. Avg 5.9 IP /Start.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:27:11 +0000

@Grey: Time to adjust the pitcher rankings. Livan Hernandez signs with the Astros.

By: Grey

Grey — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:12:57 +0000

@centralohguy: Very yuuuuup. Now we both owe Hester money.

By: centralohguy

centralohguy — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:10:41 +0000

@Grey: Any time. That one was just extra funny. Another positive note on The Max from that data I put together is that he sat at +1.2 K%, which equated to +10 K and 8.5 eK/9 over 195 IP. Yuuuuuup.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:03:01 +0000

@royce!: @Steve: Actually, if it's a glow, I'm probably basking in it...

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:50:23 +0000

@royce!: To be fair, I did steal the gag from big o, but I'm more than happy to wallow in the glow of your admiration.

By: MH

MH — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:48:35 +0000

@Wake Up

I’m curious as well…is this about breaking ball usage? They do both throw a lot of sliders….but not quite obscene amounts. Plus if I’m not mistaken the common belief is that sliders put stress on the elbow, not so much, the shoulder, no? I could be mistaken.

By: JoeC

JoeC — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:45:01 +0000

@Wake Up: Do you just mean that Bumgarner is, like Hanson was last year, a young pitcher who's being over-sold?