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On September 22nd, Matt Moore went into Yankee Stadium and delivered a gem — 5 IP, 0 ER, 5 baserunners, 11 Ks.  Even though it was against the Yankees B lineup, which was produced and directed by Roger Corman, his lights-out performance in September was exactly what he’d been doing in the minor leagues since 2007.  His Triple-A year in 2011 — 1.37 ERA, 13+ K/9 in 52 2/3 IP.  His Double-A stats in 2011 — 2.20 ERA, 11+ K/9 in 102 1/3 IP.  Together, 1.92 ERA and 12+ K/9 in 155 innings.  Those are Bugs Bunny numbers, and if anyone knows what “Bugs Bunny numbers” means, like Alfred E. Neuman, I’m all ears.  Jay-Z would say hitters going against Moore have bunny ears.  On Stephen’s top 50 fantasy baseball prospects for 2012, he listed Moore as number one.  (I’d put Mike Trout there, but c’est la whatever.)  So what can we expect of Matt Moore in 2012 fantasy baseball?

Nothing until June 1st.  If the Rays weren’t cheap, they’d have no adjective.  Maybe the Rays can raise some money for Moore by having a garage sale — they can sell speedy outfielders, soul-patched pitchers and moth-ridden Tommy Bahama shirts.  Then the Rays can start Moore in the rotation out of Spring Training and lose him in 2017 rather than 2018 (when Siri will be GM’ing a MLB team.  “I’m sorry, Stuart Sternberg, there are no free agent catchers in your area.”)  And, in fairness to the once-Satan Rays, teams don’t really need 5th starters in April and they’ll want to limit his innings.  When Moore gets the call in June, I imagine he’ll put together a year that makes him a contender for Rookie of the Year.  Something like we saw with Hellickson in 2011, though hopefully with a lot more Ks.  Say 10-7/3.15/1.20/160 in 150 innings.  But if he’s drafted in my mixed leagues (which he will be), I’m not bothering with him.  I’m not sitting on a rookie pitcher for a month in April unless the league’s deep and/or a keeper.  Too many variables, and I imagine his price will be too steep.  Now, Rays fans, start making your signs for April home games, “We want Moore, roger that,” or sell your Tommy Bahama shirts.

54 Responses

  1. Tony says:
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    i’ve gotta stay away from the rookie nookies this year grey.

    I got a little rookie happy last year and took too many MAYBE late in the draft. I know thats the time to gamble but it was more like rounds 15-25 i was taking all guys who weren’t ready to produce, needed to mix some vets in there. Plus instead of Pineda’s i got Mike Minors….

  2. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Tony: me to,i traded a few away for good players but doubt that will fly again

  3. Steve says:
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    Me: Why is Grey dedicating an article to Miami’s mediocre QB for next season?

    *Reads first sentence*

    *Walks away slowly*

  4. Tony says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: yep i took minor, trumbo (actually panned out), freeman (didn’t do anything while i had him), moustakas, etc etc…. I just feel I went way too heavy when i shoulda been taking some guys that I know were a little more stable. My team might have also been a poop sandwhich because I owned Wright, Heyward, Lester, Liriano, Howard, and on and on and on…. outta the draft I was ready to dominate, 2 months in it was a whole different story. Instead of Heyward I shoulda took pen, instead of Lester in the 4th round I shoulda waited, who knew pitching would probably be the deepest its EVER been…. insane.

    Disappointing making the playoffs for like 5 years in a row and not making them this year.

    GREY- what would you think of dealing the #4 overall pick for another guys 11th overall pick and #14 pick….. so his 1st and 2nd round pick for my first? Total Redraft league. The guy kinda jokingly mentioned it and I think hes all talk, but…..?

  5. Buster's Broken Leg says:
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    Hosmer over Moore and Trout in a dynasty league?

  6. OaktownSteve says:
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    Bugs Bunny vs Gas House Gorillas. The classic baseball toon. It is of course even better with the image flipped and dubbed into Italian.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdhftriXIrk

  7. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:
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    RE: “Reviewing the Fantasy Baseball ‘Perts”

    A number of you CORRECTLY asked for MORE in order to get a TRUER evaluatio. Fortunately, Mitch Moreland stepped to the plate. Mitch was kind enough to bring me up to speed. Thank you Mitch! He provided the following light:

    “Accuracy(my attempt): on average the darts hit the bulleye. Maybe none of the darts land on the bullseye, but on average they do.

    “Precision: when you want to throw higher, the dart generally goes higher.

    For forecasts, precision is the key.”

    Mitch followed that up by crunching the numbers for “precision” and provided the original spreadsheet with his added analysis. The link is in #31 on the original post:

    http://razzball.com/reviewing-the-fantasy-baseball-perts/

    Mitch, you hit it out of the park! Thank You!!

  8. Tony says:
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    @Grey: 12 teamer redraft, H2H league, i’m drafting 4th overall this year, snakes back and forth so i’d deal my 1st round pick for his 1st&2nd which would equal picks 11 and 14.

  9. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: So you’d have the 4th and 20th or the 11th and 14th? I’d hold.

  10. Tony says:
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    i really dont think i want to give up the pick just because i NEVER draft top 4 hahah, even tho im pretty sure 2 picks in the top 14 is better than one pick early on…..

  11. Tony says:
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    i’d get the 11th, 14th, then get my 2nd and 3rd round picks too so i’d get #11, #14, #21 & #28…… or i get #4, #21, #28……

  12. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: Oh, then you should do it. Extra pick there is big.

  13. Tony says:
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    @Grey: yeah i know i think the guy is BS’ing me, it was over a couple texts so who knows…. he wants PUJOLS back bad haha, thats his boy, but who even knows if he’s there at 4.

  14. chata says:
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    don’t trade sophie .

  15. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: Gotcha

    @chata: I’d put Sophie behind Ozzie, Coach and Albert for getting the most votes right now.

  16. SwaggerJackers says:
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    Based on this article, it’s safe to say none of your loyal readers will have Moore on their teams next season. I’m okay with that.

  17. Tony says:
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    I like Jose Reyes as much as the next guy, but I’m doing a little preseason research and looking at his numbers next to Starlin Castros…. veryyyyyy similar, castro strikes out alot more, but he’s young, castro has a little more power, probably will develop more, rbi’s and runs are close and they both played on crappy teams, reyes will steal more, or at least he has in the past, reyes also more prone to an injury, starlin yet tbd, reyes will hit for a tad higher avg, but…… with the idea of Starlin progressing, what do you think? and relative to where they’ll go in drafts?

  18. Tony says:
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    and of course alot depends on where reyes signs and who the cubs sign as well….

  19. TheNewGuy says:
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    Wow great to see this sites still running, is it going to keep on going throughout the whole offseason?

    Gives me somewhere to ask about offseason trading advice then! I’m considering signing Jay Bruce ($22) off someone, it would likely be in exchange for a 1st round pick in our upcoming prospect draft, and i’d get a 4th round pick thrown back too.

    Good deal? I think the main question is how good can Jay Bruce be. If I made the deal I’d probably sign him for 2 years ($28), or maybe 3 years ($30). Will that likely be a bargain in future years, enough to justify giving up the pick?

  20. TheNewGuy says:
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    Oh and its an OBP league too, so gives Bruce a boost.

  21. Tony says:
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    @TheNewGuy: haha there’s people posting on here all offseason man…. how many guys are kept in that league where you’re looking at signing bruce? whats a 1st round pick worth?

  22. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @SwaggerJackers: Cool

    @Tony: I like Starlin, but he doesn’t have the speed of Reyes…. Though Reyes is more brittle.

    @TheNewGuy: I’d take Bruce.

  23. 123 & ur out says:
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    Ogando or Luebke for 2012?

  24. black_toshiba says:
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    Ogando or Lubeke for 2012?

  25. Tony says:
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    @Grey: yeah its give and take, but if starlin can jump to the 10+ HR range, steal 25 bags, and hit over .300… that’s pretty nice for where he’ll go compared to Reyes.

    Im looking at them in a 10×10 H2H as well not 5×5 roto. It kind of affects my thinking on reyes being overvalued. Now if I knew he’d hit .330+ again, then reyes is super valuable, but 2011 was the first year he’s batted OVER .300 since he was 20 yrs old and he ONLY batted .307 then. So he’s obviously much more of a .290-.300 hitter like his stats say from the other 7 years of data.

    Man did he hit the jackpot hitting .337 the year before he’s due up for a big Free Agency???

  26. black_toshiba says:
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    Oops…. Luebke sorry

  27. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @123 & ur out: Luebke

    @Tony: Reyes won’t hit .330 again…. Yeah, totally hit the jackpot — the Adrian Beltre jackpot.

  28. TheNewGuy says:
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    Thanks Grey.

    @Tony: 8 players are Kept Tony, and all need to be offered a contract to be kept obviously. As for what a first round pick’s worth, I’ve no idea really, it’s my first year in this. That’s why i’m posting in here :) It’s such a difficult one to judge, as they are such different things, and of course prospects don’t always prosper…

  29. Tony says:
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    @TheNewGuy: i meant whats its worth as in ROUND< so i guess its the 9th round right? i'd deal bruce for that, but im assuming you have a salary cap too, you'd have to look at all those issues as well…. good luck.

  30. chata says:
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    @SwaggerJackers:

    moore’s a guy that i’m targeting .

  31. chata says:
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    @Grey:

    coach is a nut-job .
    and i wouldn’t be surprised if he turned out to be a fruit-cake
    ‘a la sandusky .

  32. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @chata: Yeah, but that doesn’t matter to the jury. He’s perceived the leader and that’s rewarded, assuming he doesn’t backstab too many people in his endgame.

  33. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Can’t imagine there are too many things more painful than being stabbed in your endgame.

  34. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: That reminds me of something. There’s this IQ test called called Pegame. It’s at pegame.com. Always cracks me up because it’s a game with pegs but the name reads to me like Peh-gah-me, and this is judging my IQ?

  35. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Sounds like a real pain in the ass.

  36. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Great website too. And some awesome products.

    There’s even a baseball version!

  37. Grey

    Grey says:
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    ***RUDY’S AT THE HOSPITAL WITH BABY RUDY ABOUT 8 TO 12 HOURS AWAY.***

  38. Steve says:
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    @Rudy: Stay up the head end.

  39. chata says:
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    sounds like ??

    as long as we’re playing the “sounds like” game ,
    try listening to a few thousand geico commercials , and tell me
    they’re not selling “moron” car insurance .

    you’re welcome , in advance , for allowing me to put that
    thought in your head .

  40. Steve says:
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    Seriously, that’s very exciting. Good luck Rudy!

    And Mrs Rudy of course. She’ll be doing most of the work.

  41. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @chata: Ha, thanks!

    @Steve: Yeah, just heard word. It’s all on Mrs. Rudy now and their doula.

  42. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Never heard of a doula, had to look it up.

    Sounds like she does what Rudy’s supposed to (emoticon)

  43. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: I never heard of it either until I was talking in the bar with this girl who said she was a doula. I responded, “It sounds like you do-nada.” She didn’t like that.

  44. Steve says:
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    @Grey: You strayed into one of the more sacred no-go zones right there.

  45. Steve says:
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    Brandon Wood signs with the Rockies. Start cranking the handle!

  46. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: I more than strayed, I think I might’ve peed in the no-go zone. Rockies get Wood — ew!

  47. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: rockies talking about Nolan Arenado possibly being thier starter at 3rd this year,he,s tearing the cover off the ball in the winter league now,whats your real early thoughts on this

  48. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    make that the arizona fall league he is dominating-.393- 6 hrs

  49. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    oh,and we wish rudy and family the best with the newborn,congrats to him and Uncle Grey

  50. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Heard about the Nolan news, he’s pretty young. Be more of a call during Spring Training but Wood hurts that now. I’ll make sure to pass that along to Rudy.

  51. begs says:
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    should i draft moore in the 11th – 13th round of a keeper league with 11 teams ?

  52. Mark says:
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    @Grey again:

    FWIW, I agreed with your post when it looked like he might get Desmond Jenningsed, but part of that was that June 1 was the earliest he was likely to get called up, and there was risk it still wouldn’t be for a month or two after that. The extension makes a huge difference. Unless there’s an extenuating circumstance (such as an extenuating elbow ligament, knock on wood), he’ll be in the rotatation to start the year now. Even if that’s only 30-40 more innings, that could be 50 extra Ks, a few extra wins, and quite a bit more weight to those ratios.

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