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I was listening to this song:

Just as I was looking at recent mocks for 2012 fantasy baseball drafts.  Every time I heard the chorus, I saw Justin Verlander‘s name in the top ten.  Only I didn’t hear the words.  I heard… Fail!  Blame it on his ADP, baby!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Maybe I’m a different breed!  Maybe I’m not listening!  So blame it on his ADP, baby!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  And I wasn’t even stoned (I don’t think so, at least).  When the song was over, I played Neil Diamond on repeat for 3 hours to clear my head of that song and I started thinking, am I missing something?  Or s-thing, if you’re in a time crunch.  Right now Verlander’s ADP is at 9 overall.  He’s being drafted as high as 2 overall.  I give this a little leeway because I do think some people mock draft like they would never really draft just to see what a team would look like with a pitcher in the first round.  I’ll give you a hint.  Your team will look terrible.

This isn’t even about Verlander, though I don’t think he repeats his numbers from last year.  This isn’t even about him being drafted before Halladay or Kershaw, which I think is slightly crummy with crackers.  This is more about your team with a pitcher in the first or even 2nd round.  You can’t make up the missing offense without some luck.  You don’t want to count on luck, especially if it’s as indecipherable as done by David Milch.  Say you draft Verlander and David Wright (who is about 20 picks away from Verlander, so he’d be around for your 2nd pick) and someone else drafts Prince and Longoria.  Then you have 25-ish homers and 15-ish steals from Wright in a good year and a number one starter.  The other guy has 60-ish homers and 10-ish steals and drafts Dan Haren four rounds later.  I’m ignoring wins, as you should, but between Haren and Verlander you’re missing 50 Ks and ~.50 ERA and ~.04 WHIP.  Basically what you’re getting from any halfway decent reliever.  If you say, “Well, Grey, with all due respect to your mustache, I’ll grab a 1st baseman where you’re taking Haren.”  Okay, you’re drafting Napoli or Konerko.  Now, be honest, do you trust Napoli and Konerko compared to Prince the same way you trust Haren compared to Verlander?  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  Fail!  (BTW, that isn’t the official video, but who can resist a girl fight?  I can’t; no apologies.)

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  1. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    Were you really listening to that song? I mean… it fits the blurb perfectly (kudos on that), but I’d like to imagine you heard it on the radio and recalled the chorus for the purposes of this post. I don’t want to imagine that you actually chose to put that detritus through your speakers. And I want the 1:47 of my life back that I waited for it to get good.

    • Steve says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus, I know the Neil Diamond song he was listening to, too. “LA’s fine but it ain’t home… “

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Steve, Exactly!

        • Steve says:
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          @Grey, You’ll like this one. Yet *another* package from Anthropologie arrived for my wife this morning. A pair of shoes this time. The brand? ‘Miss Albright’.

          • Grey

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            @Steve, My mom would like them back, btw.

            • Steve says:
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              @Grey, I’m impressed if Mama Albright is rocking a pair of these.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                @Steve, Oh, you have no idea!

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            @Steve, That wasn’t the brand, that was my family member writing their name in them so they wouldn’t be stolen.

          • The Talented Mr. Dope man says:
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            @Steve, Ha isn’t miss Albright the name of the the name of the teacher from “3rd rock from the sun”??? Are those moon shoes?

      • Awesomus Maximus

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        @Steve, Left coast has made my man soft. Next thing you know he’ll be frosting his ‘stache! Oh, the humanity…

        • Grey

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          @Awesomus Maximus, Soft? I said I watched Project Runway!

          • Awesomus Maximus

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            @Grey, Must I remind you of my T-shirt idea?

            “Not all straight men watch Project Runway… just the ones who know how to please a woman.”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @Awesomus Maximus, Love that shirt, will steal it now. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus, What, it’s catchy? I watched the Challenge and Runway last night. You can speak on them, if you like.

      • Awesomus Maximus

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        @Grey, Crab louse are catchy, too, but I manage to keep my distance.

        I don’t know what the Runway is doing… it’s sad. They got three of the bottom four wrong (Michael is the only one who should have been down there). Kenley made the same outfit she’s made a dozen times… she should be gone for complete unoriginality. Kara’s design was draped well, but so friggin’ boring and Macy’s. Mila’s cape looked like it was made out of cardboard, it was so stiff. Michael doesn’t have an interesting, original idea in his head… he should be gone for stealing.

        I keep feeling like the Challenge is about to kick major ass, and then there’s a dud episode (I know, we’re only a few episodes in). I’m mostly frustrated because CT is on good behavior (or good meds, more likely) and isn’t brining the crazy. Hopefully he’ll win Diem back and then go crazy on the next Challenge.

        • Grey

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          @Awesomus Maximus, Kenley’s outfit was terrible, right? Enough with the freakin’ polka dots, it’s giving me vertigo. Mila’s cape was interesting, in that how do you make cardboard into a cape? Totally agree there. Kara’s outfit looked like it was right off the rack at Ross. CT’s on good behavior because of Diem, he always is around her. What I don’t understand is why isn’t everyone gunning for him? If they lose one more person in this challenge it’s gonna be a four week season. Nothing lost with those two though. I was only really entertained in last night’s episode because of how stupid they were with the questions. H2O is… Texting for Hi To Ollie?

          • Awesomus Maximus

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            @Grey, The T-shirt is my gift to you. Just send me an XL when you go into production.

            Notice how they don’t even compete for crappy prizes anymore (like a set of Kicker speakers for your car… that you don’t have… unless you win this season…), so they can’t even do a challenge just for the prize during the weeks when they lose a team due to injury/rape. They still have to duel and lose two teams that week.

            And how are any of them supposed to know anything about the outside world? They’ve spent their lives on MTV shows that don’t allow them access to television, radio, newspaper, etc. Mark and Paula were the only ones who knew stuff because they’re old and had a legitimate shot at the REALLY real world.

            • Grey

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              @Awesomus Maximus, True, the only ones I didn’t know were questions about the seasons and they knew those with no problem (except CT). They don’t compete for the prizes is part of the answer why they don’t know anything but challenges. What good is a car speaker when you’re at a remote location raping/getting drunk all the time?

              • Awesomus Maximus

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                @Grey, I think the Kicker speakers were one of the better regular prizes, too; I can’t remember the other crap they used to give away. I can only think of one time that there was a good prize… a crotch-rocket that Brad went crazy to win, if memory serves.

                How awesome would it be, for just one episode, have the Runway cast do the Challenge, and have the Challenge cast do the Runway? Can you imagine Austin Scarlett getting flung off a platform, or Tyrie hearing the term avant-garde for the first time? Brilliant!

                • Grey

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                  @Awesomus Maximus, I think they gave away herpes, it was unofficially. Brilliant, indeed! Mondo and MJ, to form the world’s biggest and smallest guy team.

                  • Mr2Bits says:
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                    @Grey,
                    Do you guys hate Paula as much as I do? She is usually rocking some mouth herpes and for the life of me, I don’t know why she is always protected by the other teams.

  2. Wake Up says:
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    All I can hear now is, blame it on my ADP!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up, Hehe, yup

      • chata says:
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        @Grey,

        not wanting to risk having to listen to neil diamond ,
        after the 1st minute , i skipped to the end … to see if
        the nipple shots got any better .
        they didn’t.
        and neither did that song .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @chata, Ha!

        • JoeC says:
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          @chata, I remember when I was a kid we went to Sea World down in San Diego. One of the “highlights” was a fountain show set to the music of… Neil Diamond.

          I can still remember those fountains shooting spray during the chorus of “They Come To America (TO-DAY!)”.

          It wasn’t half-bad.

  3. WallyCleaver says:
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    Agree, Grey. I see the potential for what Hamels did. Blew everyone away. Won gold. Did the talk shows and ignored the off season focus. Takes a dump during the season. Not saying Verlander and Hamels are the same guy but it brings up concerns. Go with hitting in the first two rounds.

    • Grey

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      @WallyCleaver, Yup

  4. Wake Up says:
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    Did you ever read about a frog who dreamed about being a king?

    Just me, or does the outro sound like porpoise farts?

    • Grey

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      @Wake Up, I didn’t but I like the sound of porpoise farts. Literally.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey, Not sure that I could be internet friends with anyone who didn’t…

  5. 3FingersBrown says:
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    Whaddya say Grey? Hows the biz treating you?

    That time of year again. Shaking off the Super Bowl hangover and getting ready for pitchers & catchers to report.

    Which 5 do you keep in 12 team H2H, Standard 5×5 + OBP and QS. Cost of compensatory draft pick in ()

    Albert (1)
    Hamels (3)
    Santana (4)
    Utley (6)
    Panda (7)
    Gardner (8)
    Starlin (11)
    Asdrubal (18)
    Kennedy (21)
    Walden (25)

    I traded my 7th round pick last year, so I’d give up a 6 to keep Panda – A 5 & 6 to keep Panda and Utley.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @3FingersBrown, Hey, good to hear from you! How’s the editing going? Pujols, Panda, Castro, Asdrubal, Kennedy…

      • 3FingersBrown says:
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        @Grey, Work’s going well. My show had a good response but so-so ratings – Whaddya gonna do. Producing spots for History Channel now which is much better for my sanity and wallet. Did your show air?

        I was thinking the same keepers, although I wouldn’t mind moving Asdrubal for an OF. OF is a nightmare. I finished last season with an OF of Gardner, Willingham, Juan Rivera and Parra… and lost in the finals!

        • Grey

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          @3FingersBrown, What show was it that you did?

          • 3FingersBrown says:
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            @Grey, Zombies: A Living History. It was a 2 hour special that aired on History Channel around Halloween. Show turned out aight. Lotta things I would do differently but that’s what first times are for I suppose.

            • Grey

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              @3FingersBrown, Never heard of it, but I’m not the audience for that, I don’t like horror. Nightmares scare me. A good response is nothing to scoff at, ratings or not.

              • 3FingersBrown says:
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                @Grey, No doubt. It was pretty creepy in an Orson Welles War of the World style sort of way. I like scaring people.

                Would you offer Asdrubal (18) for Alex Gordon (21)? I’m thinking about it.

                • Grey

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                  @3FingersBrown, I wouldn’t.

                  • 3FingersBrown says:
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                    @Grey, Interesting… I’m an As-man but his power is suspect. Then again Gordo was crazy lucky with the BABIP and it’s still easier to get HR from your OF than from SS so there’s that.

                    • Grey

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                      @3FingersBrown, Yeah, it’s a tough call, but Asdrubal’s position eligibility would push me that way.

  6. chata says:
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    @ Grey :

    despite your choice of music , my comment (#23) to your previous
    post was sincere .

    AND NOW …..
    saw an ad on tv last night .
    seems a lawyer group , here in connecticut , is trying to put together
    a class-action lawsuit against the manufacturer of ‘propecia’ .

    according to their claims , propecia causes erectile dysfunction (ED) .

    so ,
    i’m looking for suggestions for MY glossary ,
    to reflect a two-time loser , who attempts to re-grow hair ,
    in an effort to pick up chicks , and ends up with a perpetual soft-ie .

    sort of reminds me of the “gift of the magi” … for you literate types .

    • Wake Up says:
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      @chata, Wake Up…

    • Grey

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      @chata, Ha… Gift of the non-hairy guy…

  7. JoeC says:
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    I have to say, both those girls are sportin’ some massive double chin when they get down and dirty.

    There are few things I hate worse than double chin. Maybe cankles or flabby tricep.

    • Grey

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      @JoeC, How dare you put down the cankle!

  8. joe from point pleasant says:
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    @Grey: You do need to take into effect that if you play in a head to head points league, pitchers are actually more valuable than hitters and that could be why he is going in the late first round in some leagues…

    I play in a points keeper league, and own verlander, so while i will never actually know where he would have been drafted, i can assure you that the top 5 pitchers (verlander halladay kershaw felix lee) would have probably all been taken by middle of the 2nd round.

    Just a little food for thought…

    Nice job this year with your rankings, i think they were the best yet, and i agree with a lot of your sleepers.

    • Grey

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      @joe from point pleasant, Thanks!

    • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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      @joe from point pleasant, Valid point, but the vast majority of leagues do not use those settings.

  9. trick dad says:
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    need to pick 3 keepers in a H2H points league (count as picks in first 3 rounds):

    Votto, Cano, Braun, Halladay, Cliff Lee, McCutchen

    thanks!

    • Grey

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      @trick dad, Votto, Cano, McCutchen…

      • trick dad says:
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        @Grey, top tier SP’s consistently score the most in this format…does that change anything?

        • Grey

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          @trick dad, Yes…Halladay…

  10. Raj says:
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    Agree with Joe, Verlander’s value depends on the league format. In a h2h, points league, he’s a definite 1st rounder.

  11. the grate one says:
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    grey, if AJ burnett ends up in the NL (in Pittsburgh specifically), does he become somewhat useful? draftable?

    thanks – nice work Mr. Stache.

    • Grey

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      @the grate one, As a last round flyer? Sure… He’s got bigger problems than what league he’s pitching in.

  12. GopherDay says:
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    Grey, long time no commenting…

    Anyways, which of the following do you like best for my 5 keepers in a 16 team ROTO league?
    Mark Teixeria
    Ryan Howard
    Nelson Cruz
    Buster Posey
    Mark Reynolds
    Cliff Lee
    Zack Greinke
    Elvis Andrus

    • WallyCleaver says:
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      @GopherDay, I’m going Cruz, Grienke, Lee, Andrus, Posey, Tex

    • Grey

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      @GopherDay, Hey, man, good to hear from you! Same five that Wally said.

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        @Grey, Wally gave 6 names and I can only keep 5…But I think Cruz, Lee, Andrus, and Tex are pretty sure fire keepers.

        It comes down to Posey, Grienke, and Howard for my last keeper spot. Would you suggest going with Greinke as a second pitcher and pretty much ignore pitching, or go with Posey and hope for the best with his injury (But he is a catcher), or Howard and pray his injury doesn’t keep him out too long.

        Long story short: Greinke, Posey or Howard as my last keeper?

        • Grey

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          @GopherDay, Oops… Greinke…

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            @Grey,

            report that i read said posey is not healed , and might not
            catch during spring training games .

  13. Nate says:
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    What do you think is the best Head to Head Stat categories to use?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nate, Traditional 5×5

  14. Steve says:
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    BSOHL Alert! According to Alex Avila, Miggy has lost 20-25 pounds…

    • JoeC says:
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      @Steve, Maybe he switched to Bud Light?

    • Steve says:
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      @royce!, And his wife is very endearing too, so bump him up a few more.

      • royce! says:
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        @Steve, Yes, she appears to have an excellent character and personality…

    • Grey

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      @royce!, Nice! How’s the wife and baby doing?

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey, I don’t want to jinx it, but really great, actually. Baby’s been pretty mellow, no big concerns, and the wife has taken well to the whole feed, diaper change, and sleep routine. My dogs haven’t tried to eat the baby. People keep bringing over awesome food, like In n’ Out, sandwiches from the local jewish deli, and something called “tourte a chou,” which is like a French pork pot pie with a mustard sauce.

        My wife encouraged me to go out for a beer or two with a buddy only the second night after we got home from the hospital. She was all, “you deserve it!” Damn right I do! (I really don’t.)

        So everything is pretty freaking bad ass, except for the fact that I have probably gained 15 lbs in the last 5 days.

        • Grey

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          @royce!, That’s awesome! Do you have a Wilco-playing mobile above the crib? Have you thought about what kind of baby tattoo you can give her that she can grow into? I don’t think I’m ready for a baby! BTW, anything Frenchy that has “chou” in the name is delicious. That’s a fact.

          • royce! says:
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            @Grey, Ha! Well, no Wilco-playing mobile above the crib because she’s a baby girl, not a 30-something man. (Obviously kidding. Dads everywhere have been able to convince their daughters that it’s proper to share musical interests. Here’s a cute example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gvPZkk_v8).

            I have a pennant that looks like this http://174.120.97.215/catalog/images/Brklyn_Dod_Clown_Pennant.jpg but the wife prevented me from hanging it in the nursery. Boo!

            Re: tattoos– I’m thinking of an image of tumbling dice, but instead of dice, it’ll be alphabet blocks. You know, age appropriate. And educational!

            I think you might be thinking of “choux,” which is a pastry dough used in profiteroles, eclairs, etc. “Chou” means cabbage. Then again, you might be thinking of “chou”; I’ve only ever eaten one french thing with cabbage and it was delightful.

            • Grey

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              @royce!, Oh, yeah! Choux… Pronounced shoe. Can’t go wrong there. Anything they call a shoe is good. That’s what I learned in my two weeks in France six years ago. Great pennant, is that Duke Snider after a bender? Just don’t get her a Feist mobile.

              • royce! says:
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                @Grey, “1, 2, 3, 4…” They probably make a Feist mobile. I remember she was on Sesame Street singing a kid’s version of that song.

                I’d be down for an Animal Collective mobile, playing “My Girls.” Damn, that’s actually something I want. I WILL BUILD IT! Or just talk about how I’m going to build it until I find something else to talk about. That’s what dads do, right?

                • Grey

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                  @royce!, You didn’t get the manual?!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @royce!, Jesus, that looks good. I’m hungry!

    • The Talented Mr. Dope man says:
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      @royce!, Brandon McCarthy uses to hit all the bars around comiskey when he was on the white sox a few years ago (usually with Brian Anderson and Ozzie Guillens son). He was an alright guy, but he thought he was gods gift to the female gender. Sad thing is, he usually “struck out” pretty hard each night and ended up “walking” home alone ( see what I did there). Brian Anderson can really booze! That dude would take shot for shot, then you would see him playing CF the next day, letting balls fly over his head… Haha

  15. sandles says:
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    @Grey
    Hope your day is going splended so far!
    I have a quick in draft questions for ya.
    Say you are picking 10-12 in the first round.
    Standard 12 team 5*5 scoring and 5 OF’s
    Round 1. Longo(assuming Cabrera, Pujols, Votto @ Joey Bats off the board
    Round 2. McCutchen(assuming Fielder, Adrian & Upton are off the board)
    I see from your top 100 you want to come away with a 1st, 3rd & OF as soon as you can.
    My question(s) is when it comes back to you in the third round. Lets say Konerko is off the board. options still on the board
    Bruce, Felix, Uggla & Hosmer(list him knowing you want a 1st baseman)
    What combo would you go with(for your 3rd and 4th round picks)?
    Would Hosmer be an option for you in the 4th round?
    Knowing the way his ADP is rising you won’t have him as an option in the 5th round. Or would it be best to wait till the 5th and see if Mike Morse is available late 5th round?
    Thanks!
    Best players avail

    • Grey

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      @sandles, You too! Uggla, Bruce, Felix, feels a little early for Hosmer…

      • sandles says:
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        @Grey,
        Thanks for the feedback.
        Say I have Stanton as my OF1. Should I avoid Logan Morrison(being they play for the same team) as my OF3?
        Thanks!

        • Grey

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          @sandles, Nope

  16. ozzie says:
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    Keeper league.. obp instead of avg…extra catagories are k/bb and batter k’s… was thinking about trading bruce and hanson for verlander…. thoughts?

    • Grey

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      @ozzie, Sounds fair.

      • WallyCleaver says:
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        @Grey, Killer. Really. Added McCarthy to my list not thinking you’d suggest him cause he is so low. Figured Peralta has more value since I have no MI at all. I know you don’t care for Zobrist and he’s a bit pricey (will go for that in our draft tho). Thanks. Gives me something to think about.

        • Grey

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          @WallyCleaver, Even if you pay the same for Zobrist in your draft you also have McCarthy for cheap.

          • WallyCleaver says:
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            @Grey, I hear you on that. I’m a little doubtful on Brandon but Zobrist is a bit sketchy year to year.
            BTW- Loved that Sail video clip. Good sync with Verlander. See him taking a step back to reality this year.

            • Grey

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              @WallyCleaver, Thanks!

  17. exactly says:
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    Grey, you got Greinke and Bumgarner ranked pretty high…3 questions:

    1. in a 12-teamer, do you see yourself grabbing them both in the 4th and 5th?
    2. If not, and you’re taking one vs. the other in those rounds, who would you choose?
    3. Assuming you pass on Greinke in the 4th and grab Bum in the 5th/6th, how do you feel with him as your No. 1?
    3(a). I said “grab Bum”

    • Grey

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      @exactly, 1) No. 2) The order that’s in the top 20 3) Great 3a) Ha!

      • exactly says:
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        @Grey, cool…hey, are you going to do any posts on H2H points leagues, like a selection of who you like even more/less in that format?

        I mean roto’s cool and all, but us H2H points people (all me of us) need some specialized guidance.

        • Grey

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          @exactly, Yeah, I’ll look into doing a post about that, but most guys don’t change.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Steve, Zadow!

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, Jays are easily one of the top five rotations as far as other halves go.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @Steve, RR and Morrow alone, right?

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey, You know it.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @Steve, I’d like to be in that starting five, you hear me?! (Or read, as the case may be.)

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey, Hear you? Read you? I FEEL you!

  18. steve b says:
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    geez I remember when this site used to be about baseball

    • royce! says:
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      @steve b, This site is about baseball??!!

  19. The Talented Mr. Dope man says:
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    There’s a guy in one of my AL only auction leagues that is keeping verlander for $38 and keeps trying to tell me how it’s “a steal”. RIDICULOUS. I try not to pay more than $30 for any player in auction leagues.

    Just a random thought… Seems like most of you razzballers use a snake draft format for fake baseball. You guys should really look into auction leagues. Best day of the year is when everyone gets together, rent out a bar, and just sit there for 8-10 hours BS’ing about baseball. Cant wait.

    Plus the fact that you actually have a chance to obtain every possible player.

    • JoeC says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope man, True, I’m sure an auction draft is a ton of fun. I did one online once and it kind of blew. Seems like a live, in-person draft would be a lot more enjoyable.

      But it’s hard to find 10-12 people who would be dedicated leaguemates who can get together for one day out of the year. Yeah, I know, how did we ever get to the Moon, eh? :)

    • WallyCleaver says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope man, I agree about the auction. I’m in a competitive auction league of 10 and draft day is the best day of the fantasy year. It’s a different strategy than straight drafts. Both can be fun but the snakes are frustrating when the guy you want goes one pick before it’s your turn. With an auction there is more control. Plus the endless bantering when a player goes “too high”. Online isn’t as good no matter which method of draft.

  20. Rabbit says:
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    Grey, any idea of when Rudy is going to come out with his Point Shares?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rabbit, He would’ve already if the projections were out that he likes to use. Waiting on the end of the ZIPs projections.

    • BookieBob says:
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      @Rabbit, Just testing – no reply needed.

  21. Molly Lee says:
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    Grey, am I the only person here who loves that song and music video “SAIL!!”?? I’m still groovin’ to it, so thanks for sharin’.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Molly Lee, Me and you, Molly, me and you.

    • TheNewGuy says:
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      @Molly Lee, Hey a female reader!

      Sorry don’t wanna scare you off, you’re a rare species around here.

  22. Molly Lee says:
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    You mean other women don’t wanna play in a fantasy baseball league with 23 men? What??!! Well, I enjoy it anyway. Actually, I play in a Strat-o-Matic league where we get to keep our players.

    Hey, I even ordered myself the AWOLNATION cd from Amazon. Turns out I like a lot of their music. lol

    You didn’t scare me off, Grey. I read your blog all the time. :-))

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