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I already went over a Josh Hamilton overrated post, but I guess people were off reading his inspirational autobiography, “Baseball Between the Lines.”  So I brought out the pirated Photoshop for a quick, “Don’t make me come back there!”  Okay, this wonky .jpg is a bastardized Hype Cycle.  If you don’t know what a Hype Cycle is, it’s because you didn’t go to Harvard.  Don’t worry, neither did I.  If I had, you would’ve heard about it a gazillion times.  A hype cycle is this thingamaboob that tells you the life cycle of hype for certain technologies.  Or technologiez, if you’re under 14.  Now I took this thingamaboob and I reinvented it for Josh Hamilton and the schmohawkian hype that is following him around as we head toward your 2009 fantasy baseball draft day.  So let’s break down this Josh Hamilton fantasy baseball .jpeg-a-roo-ski into the different stages of hype, shall we?

No More Crack Smoking – This stage in the Josh Hamilton hype cycle is more or less self-explanatory.  Josh Hamilton stops smoking crack.  As he continues up the curve, he gets near 100 RBIs by the 2008 ASB, he stays healthy and he helps a giraffe give birth.  The last one is still unverified.

2009 Drafts – The peak of the hype.  Everyone goes caca-cuckoo over Josh Hamilton in the 2009 preseason.  One woman from Lubbock, Texas calls in to the Vatican saying there’s an image of Josh Hamilton on her toast.  All of this leads to Josh Hamilton being severely overrated and he’s drafted in the 1st round of some 2009 drafts.

Falls back to Earth, Hits the DL – Sometime during the 2009 season Josh Hamilton fails to live up to the hype and his owners wonder where it all went wrong.  Then he gets hurt.

He’s a solid OF, but not Jimmy Jesus – At the end of the season, fantasy baseball owners look at Josh Hamilton through slightly less than rosy glasses and come to the conclusion that he’s good, just not a 1st or even 2nd rounder.  He’s Jason Bay’s numbers with a feel-good story attached to his name.

Hype Cycle, Josh Hamilton

42 Responses

  1. Bob says:
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    This is one of the great posts of all times. I especially love the graph.

  2. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    A guy in my league last year lost the league for one simple reason: He refused to do the sensible, obvious thing and unload Hamilton for a boatload of booty at the All Star break. In short, he fell in love with Jimmy Jesus.

    So instead of flipping him like an overpriced house he suffered through Hamilton’s very pedestrian second half, fell from first, and finished third.

    So tragic. So preventable.

  3. Christopher says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: @Grey: b/c of yuze gize, I did flip Hamilton just after the break for some real production. Now, if only I had found Razzball for my draft, I could have been a contender (I would have avoided being Penced by Hunter)…alas, this year shall be different!

  4. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Christopher: Out of curiosity, what did you get for Hamilton?

  5. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:
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    Is the “Trough of Disillusionment” the Evangelical Fantasy Baseball Player’s version of “seeing the light?”

  6. Ashley says:
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    The annoying thing about baseball is that 20 different analysts have 20 different opinions about every player.

    Some people think Longoria will put up 30 hr, 110 rbi.. Some people think he’ll be a huge disappointment.

    Some people think Votto and Chris Davis will have big break out years.. So think they’ll struggle.

    Atleast the people who for years kept saying Crawford was going to hit 25 homeruns seem to have disappeared.

    But anyways…. The Yahoo! “experts” have Furcal ranked #4, Tulo #5, Alexei #6 at SS.. If you remember me from a couple weeks ago, I said I was going to target Alexei in the first round of my keeper draft. Do you think he’ll be the most reliable out of those 3?

    And now I’m scared about Hamilton thanks to you.. One team has Kemp and Markakis.. Should I see if I could get both of them for him?

    Thanks

  7. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @IowaCubs: Yes, sir.

    @Ashley: Kemp and Markakis for Hamilton would be a good deal for you. Hamilton’s a 3rd to 4th rounder in value. I could see him going at the end of the 2nd round. 1st round and he’s overrated, hence the post.

    re: Alexei — I like him better than Furcal or Tulo.

    Oh, and Votto will have a good year.

  8. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Ashley: If every analyst agreed that Longoria would hit 30 HR, and then he did, fantasy baseball would be very boring. Also, every league would end in a tie because nothing unpredictable would ever happen.

    The biggest variance in opinions is on young players, because people are trying to guess what they will do, yet they don’t have much information on what they’ve done. That’s what makes it fun!

    Personally, I like Alexei but you should understand that, as a second year player, he comes with a high amount of risk. Sometimes pitchers find a hole in a young player’s swing, and it takes time to adjust. Sometimes they experience adversity for the very first time in their careers and can’t handle it. etc.

    Remember, last year Tulo was everyone’s rookie darling and his sophomore season was a major bust.

    If you can convince someone to give you Kemp AND Markakis for Hamilton, yes, do that. I doubt someone would make that swap, however, unless the other team is run by Josh Hamilton’s mother.

    Yours truly,
    The 21st Analyst

  9. Josh says:
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    I know Hamilton’s overrated, but I think you’re a little harsh on him. He’s better than Bay, especially with Bay’s 2007 not too far in the past. He still is in the middle of that texas line-up that looks poised to score a ton of runs this year. If Cruz, Davis and Andrus can all improve that lineup, in Arlington…

    Going to change my pants now.

    That said, I’ll aim for davis, cruz, or maybe even kinsler on my teams, probably not hamilton though.

  10. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: The 21st Analyst. You should start your own blog with that title.

  11. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Josh: There is no way in this or any universe that Josh Hamilton is a first-round player.

    Nope. No sirree. Picking him in the first round this year is akin to committing fantasy hari-kari*.

    @IowaCubs: I prefer to espouse my ill-informed views here, with pushy comments that people can ignore while they wait for Grey to weigh in.

    *Harry Caray?

  12. Christopher says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Baron, I flipped Hammy for Pujols and [gulp] J-Sanchez of Risky Pitchers fame. Hey, it’s the best I could get for him, prolly cuz I waited too long to pull the trigger (that, and the league I’m in has been around for many years, and we know each other pretty well, so my shopping Hammy meant I was down on him for the second half). But I wasn’t upset for getting Pujols, cuz he was mucho better than Hammy in the second half last year.

  13. Josh says:
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    @ Baron Von Vulturewins: I agree, he’s not a first rounder, but he also is much better than Jason Bay. Hamilton in the third would be too hard to pass up though. In my OF ranking I’d have Lee, Soriano, and Beltran all ahead of him. Not Kemp, Ichiro or Manny though.

  14. Josh says:
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    And apparently the “though” key got stuck on my keyboard.

  15. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Christopher: Good haul. You gained the best hitter in baseball. You gave away about 30 ribbies. So, good deal.

    @Josh: Agreed! Though I don’t know that he’s much better than Bay. I’d say they’re both logically in .285/100/30/100 territory, with Hamilton maybe coughing up ten steals. If he stays healthy.

    It’s true Bay stunk in Pitt. two years back but I think he was just bored as hell.

  16. I think BJ Upton’s graph would be interesting and similar.

    The crack smoking would be his early career yearly failed attempts to make the roster or find a position. The 2009 draft would be his 2008 draft after his stellar hr/sb 2007 year. Upton’s a little further on the list because he’s already hit the DL last year with his wrist injury and lack of power busting everyone’s keeper leagues. He started his climb to his plateau level in the playoffs, and now this year we can all draft him accordingly, without reaching.

  17. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @bpasinko: Totally agree. Upton is now at the last plateau. He’ll either go up based on his performance this year or will go down and people will think he’s nowhere near a #1 outfielder.

  18. Christopher says:
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    @bpasinko: @Grey: do we really expect #1 power from BJ this year? I can’t see it happening…

  19. jasonbayniac says:
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    I’m in two new CBS 16 team keeper leagues and Hamilton went in the 1st round in both. In one of them he went 10th overall! Madness.

  20. Ashley says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins:

    Well I’m in a 3-sport keeper league. So I guess it’s irritating to me that you go from the NBA, where people know what they’re going to get out of Chris Paul, Lebron, Kobe, etc. And the rookies who get hyped up…. Actually produce! Rose, Westbrook, Lopez, Mayo, Durant.. They’re all living up the hype. Guys like Kwame Brown, who don’t produce, are the exception.

    But in baseball, a “top prospect” appears to be like a baby sea turtle.. Only 30% survive. Alex Gordon, DELMON YOUNG (the next Bonds?? Seriously??), Homer Bailey, Jeff Francouer, Phil Hughes, Howie Kendrick, Lastings Milledge, etc etc etc etc. The Braun’s and Longoria’s are the exception. As a Braves fan, Heyward and Hanson better be part of the 30% who survive.

    The leagues wouldn’t all end in a tie if people knew what to expect out of their players… It would just be nice to have a reasonable idea what you’re going to get out of your players. Is A-Rod going to hit 30 hr or is he going to hit 50 hr? Will Rollins hit 30 hr or 10 hr? Is Manny going to hit 20 hr or 37 hr?

    The point I’m trying to make is, in the NBA atleast you don’t have to worry about if Kobe will average 30 pts or if he’ll average 18 pts. But in MLB, you have no clue what to expect out of the top players. I guess the goal is to keep your fingers crossed and hope to avoid the busts.

    So I’ll ask you what I asked Grey a few weeks ago. My 5 keepers are Ian Kinsler, Josh Hamilton, Carlos Quentin, Ryan Braun, and Roy Halladay. I have 3 picks in the 6th rd (I traded Lincecum and a 10th rd for Halladay and a 6th, and I traded Jason Bay and a 13th rd for a 6th rd last season).

    I want to target a 1B, SS, 3B, and 4th OF/Util with my first 4 picks

    #3 – 1B – Adrian Gonzalez (Youkilis/Chris Davis/Votto)
    #4 – OF/Util – Ellsbury (Granderson/Pence/Bruce/Cruz/Crawford)
    #8 – SS – Alexei Ramirez (Tulo/Stephen Drew)
    #13 – 3B – Chris Davis (Zimmerman/Atkins)

    There’s a ton of pitching available, so I would just load up on pitching for the rest of the draft.

    So “21st Analyst,” do you think those are reasonable choices? I couldn’t tell if you were thinking Alexei would be a bust or if you liked him. The #1 pick is taking McCann, and the #2 pick will probably take Brandon Phillips or Carl Crawford.

  21. Christopher says:
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    @Grey: “With 35+ steals he doesn’t need to have #1 outfielder power.” True ‘dat…I totally discarded his SB-ness…I am shamed…

  22. big o says:
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    i think hamilton will improve upon his 2008 #’s .

    at this time , i’m not prepared to say that about any of the previously mentioned 1st rounders .

  23. Eric W says:
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    @Ashley: That’s why I love me some hard ball

  24. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Ashley: Wow, you’re tough, sorry I couldn’t be here earlier to witness this go round.

    My take on 3 sports is this, take it for what it’s worth. I’m no expert.

    NBA is all about superstars. The top guys are all superior athletically to their counterparts, hence, Kobe gets his 30, Lebron gets his triple double, etc. Plus, there’s no consistency in the rules………Lebron gets 5 steps when he goes in the paint because he can do that and make it look good. Joe Blow stumbles over his two left feet, takes 2 wrong steps, he gets whistled for traveling. He can’t make it look good, that’s why it’s called Showtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NFL is all about physical athlete vs. physical defense, offensive line vs. defensive line, therefore easier to predict. My Adrian Petersen combined with Steve Hutchinson, Bryant McKinnie, Matt Birk, etc. up front will beat down your defensive line on any given Sunday.

    Baseball on the other hand, is totally different. More individual skills involved. Here’s Jake Peavy on the mound facing Manny Ramirez, who wins, batter vs. pitcher? Who’s got the scoop on what he can hit or which pitch he’s gonna throw? That’s why baseball is so unpredictable, it’s one on one.

    Too much to think about, that’s why I just ask Grey, Rudy, or Baron Von Vulturewins. Let them do the work, I’ll reap the benefits. Trust em.

    Baseball rules the fantasy world, btw, just as Video Killed the Radio Star.

    Just my Cent and a half, I’m too cheap to give two Cents.

  25. Ashley says:
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    @BigFatHippo:

    Yeah, I understand.. It’s a lot harder to hit a fastball/curveball than it is to make a 3 pointer.

    I guess I just hate that it’s such a crapshoot. Hamilton and Quentin were both FA pickups for me last year, now they’re top 25 players. And this year they’ll probably both be disappointments…

  26. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Ashley: Disappointments in a sense, as Grey says, just know what you’re paying for.

    Sure, they might have great years, then again, they could both bomb. Don’t pass on Tex, a known commodity, to take a chance. Hamilton and Quentin have no track record. Tex does.

    ie. Crapshoot? That’s what I love about baseball. Didn’t win my league till I found Razzball last year and took in all the advice from every fan in every city, we’re all here. We’re all Razztastic, we’ll help you win.

  27. Johnny says:
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    Josh could bring 1st round value, hitting 40 hr’s, 130 rbis, and jumping over buildings. Albeit very small buildings. Ok, picnic tables.

    So I could see his upside as a 1st rounder. But I’m thinking his downside is a 10th rounder with half a season missed or playing hurt with poor numbers.

    For my part I could see drafting him if the draft is held early March and then as spring or April heats up get a kings ransom for him. I’ve seen far too many salesmen type managers excel at this strategy to discount it.

  28. bpasinko says:
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    I don’t necessarily prefer how in baseball a guy like Hamilton may bust. But I don’t like how in NBA there is literally no roster turnover.

    In baseball young studs come in and out of nowhere and a bad team that works the free agent wire well can get infinitely better. In the NBA the only time you can change your roster is if someone is out for the year or there is a trade. There isn’t enough playing time to go around, almost feel stuck.

    Once in a while you get lucky and grab Al Harrington before he’s traded, but you can’t compare to the Brauns, Hamiltons, Bruces that come up and help your team, or random career years like Huff.

    Kind of unrelated but, does anyone have any experiences with Brady Anderson screwing over their team after that one season?

  29. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Ashley: re: NBA vs. NFL vs. MLB. I agree there’s some element of skills here — hitting a baseball is considered about the hardest thing in sports. Also, there seems to be a much smaller skills-gap between college football/basketball and the real thing than there is between minor league baseball and major league baseball. That said: Kwame Brown, Greg Oden (so far), Brian Bosworth, Ryan Leaf, etc etc etc etc etc. There are busts in all sports.

    re: your picks. I’m no keeper league expert, so I’ll just go on the players you’ve targeted. All those are reasonable choices. I assume you need steals, which puts Ellsbury over, say, Granderson, who I like better across the board. But your team seems stacked for power.

    I have to admit I’m souring more and more on Alexei. Granted, if he only does what he did last year, he’ll still be valuable. And he could blossom into Soriano Lite. But free-swinging hackers tend to be bust-friendly. All pitchers have to do is figure out the one pitch they can’t lay off of, then throw that pitch, a lot. This is a tried-and-true recipe for Bust Pie.

    Given you have a few one-year-wonder guys like Hamilton and Quentin (both of whom I expect to do well again, if healthy) you might want to minimize risk by taking guys like Gonzo and possibly Atkins over Davis. I mean, Davis could be huge, Bruce could be huge, Alexei could be huge — they ain’t all going to be huge, however. Take this from a guy who bet hard on up-and-comers last year (BJ Upton, Rios, Frenchy, Zimmerman) — i.e. all guys I believed would be significantly better than they’d be — and all of whom were worse than expected, especially power wise. Needless to say, it cost me last year.

    Davis has great power but not everyone in Texas will hit 40 HRs — it’s just not statistically likely. That said, I like him at 3B. And I like Alexei at SS better than 2B, and don’t see him as significantly more risky than Tulo. Everyone has their caveats. You could go with what you have here and be very happy.

  30. Simply Fred

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    Hamilton similar to Chipper. He was great last year–for his typical short run before injuries.

  31. cockyphoenix says:
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    oh i missed this one; it’s great

    for science

  32. I became curious about your site when your Howard Stern antics became common knowledge at the ESPN blogs. Apart from this lame and adolescent behavior, I decided to dismiss the fluff and investigate if your predictations had any merit to them. One prediction that caught my eye was your Hamilton is a “2009 Fantasy Schmohawk.” You contend that Hamilton is essentially an overrated Carlos Lee with a nice story. Unfortunately, you don’t back it up with anything more than bizarre insults and three flawed conclusions. I’ll skip over the insults for obvious reasons. But, the comment about his wife was particulary tasteful. Stay classy man. Let’s move on. You contend that Hamiliton is overrated because he produces numbers similiar to Carlos Lee. How many years has Hamilton played in the bigs? One? One and a half? I’m not going to knock Lee because he is a solid second round selection. You got that part right. But, putting a cap on Hamilton’s potential production with such limited data is negligent. If you’re going to be equitable about this comparison, then you should take Lee’s 1999-2000 numbers and match them up. You are comparing numbers from a vet in his 10th year with a 1.5 newbie…right? There is no “typical” for Hamilton. There is no defined pattern. Even worse, you seem to think that players and coaches have no idea how to improve swings, health ,and wear-and-tear issues. I guess they are just numbers to you. This leads us to your final two flawed conclusions. “”…Hamilton wore down last year and he’s injury prone.” Hamilton did wear down last year. Does that mean he will wear down every year from now on? That’s silly. Were you aware that they moved him to RF? Were you aware that they plan on limiting his extra-curricular activities this year? Last year was his first experience with the Texas heat. It’s not Florida heat. It’s not California heat. It’s the kind of heat that drains the body and mind. It takes time to get used to it. Big men seem to have a harder time acclimating themselves to it. There is a better chance that he produces better numbers this year after the break because he understands exactly what he is up against. Plus, the team understands this and has made plans to keep him fresh. Of course, anyone who had bothered to research the subject would know this. But, I digress. Hamilton is injury prone? Really? That must be a extremely subjective definition of the word for you to think that this is true. Let’s see…he played in 156 games last year. Hmm. He played in center and now he’s in right. His team has mandated that he rest more and not hit the inspirational speech circuit after every game. I don’t know bud…156 games in his first full season and he is moving to a less demanding position with a team mandate to rest more often tends to dispute your conclusions. How many injury prone players log 156 games? But, even if that does not meet your insanely high standards for health, why discount the fact that this year should be less taxing on his health? Something doesn’t add up. I have my suspicions, but let’s just stay friendly and professional. Maybe it will rub off on you. Now, I’m know this is going to hurt your brain but let’s introduce some baseball knowledge into this discussion. I’ll dumb it down for you in order that you can both grasp it and make enough room in your challenged mind to retain it. Hamilton has one of the best, pure power strokes in the game. It’s not a Carlos Lee swing. There is a reason why Hamilton has been offered multiple chances to redeem himself. His potential is off-the-charts. If you attempt to refute this, then you refute your own knowledge of the game. Accepting that Hamilton’s unpolished swing is different than Lee’s, it is important to add another factor into the equation. Rudy Jaramillo is considered one of the best hitting coaches in the game. He has created, fixed, and altered so many average big league swings into respectable power strokes that the list of his beneficiaries is staggering. One of his current projects is Hamilton. This will be the first year that Hamilton and Jaramillo have worked together. Jaramillo was wise enough not to tinker with the swing last year in mid-stream. Jaramillo is going to modify one of the most powerful strokes in the game into one of the most efficient and powerful strokes. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram just released on story on this very subject. (http://www.star-telegram.com/284/story/1246129.html) It’s a good read. If you had done your research, you would already know all of this. You would also know that Hamilton basically skipped the lessons of double and triple A ball. For the first time in his life, he is being taught the things that Lee knew in 1999. So…is he an overrated Lee? Not hardly. Hamilton is Hamilton. You haven’t seen a player with this much talent before and you may not again. Sometimes hype is well-warranted. Hamilton will get hurt this year but he will recuperate faster. Hamilton will get tired this year but he will rebound faster. Everything has been set up for him to have a monster season. It seems odd that you would conveniently forget all of these factors that are fundamental to a responsible fantasy analysis. Of course, that’s assuming that you comprehend what a responsible fantasy analysis is in the first place. You may not. Maybe you just don’t like the guy or his message on a personal level and have decided to validate your flawed conclusions with further flawed data. The first article you submitted on him seems to lend creedence to this theory. All you have presented is fluff, insults, and incomplete data to validate your conclusion. Since you made the effort to present your case again with equally laughable data, one must conude that the issue with Hamiton is personal and not professional. You don’t like the man. Because of that, you cannot accept the talent. It’s all very simple. Now go ahead and delete this post. If I know your type, you can’t take what you dish out. I didn’t use curse words or potty-mouth humor to make my case either. I just hit you with the facts and presented it in a logical and civil manner. I didn’t scream for attention with childish verbosity. It’s ironic how this style is much more effective than yours…huh? Your only hope is to look for mispellings and grammar errors. When you resort to that tactic, you know you have been crushed. Enjoy.

  33. @Dave TX: Hi Dave. Thanks for taking the time to speak your mind on our site. If we’re going to poke at Mr. Hamilton’s past addictions, we should at least have the huevos to take some criticism.

    Re: Hamilton, this post is more for those on the site that is a bit sick of the Hamilton hype/analysis in fantasy baseball circles. Here is some info to back up our claims:

    1) Hamilton went on the DL 3 times in 2007 with 3 different injuries (http://www2.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/players/Josh_Hamilton/). But you’re right that he was durable last year. But 704 Plate Appearances / 619 ABs would appear to be unlikely. Baseball Prospectus’s Player Forecast Mgr estimates 550 ABs. I think safe estimate is somewhere around there which will have an impact.

    2) I’ve looked at both Baseball Prospectus’ and RotoWorld’s Depth Charts and they have Hamilton starting at CF with Murphy in LF and Cruz in RF. Hamilton has started in CF during the exhibition. If he was moved to RF, we’d feel a bit better about him holding up throughout a whole season.

    3) Hamilton definitely has HR power…when he gets the ball in the air. He’s more of a line drive/ground ball hitter – http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1875&position=OF – and it’s doubtful that he’ll be able to increase from an already impressive 20% HR/FB rate. Maybe Jarmillo gets him to uppercut more but will he mess with such a good thing? Also, he had his worst HR/RBI months in Aug/September. This could’ve been due to the Texas heat but there’s also a chance that pitchers stopped challenging him, no?

    4) He’s not really an SB threat (maybe 5-10).

    5) His protection goes from Milton Bradley (had a very good year) to Nelson Cruz (who we’re excited about but is no sure thing.)

    5) Put it together and the prediction is that he gets about 500 ABs with only 150 in the air and about 25-30 leaving the park. Runs and RBIs regress to about 95 each given less protection + less plate appearances. We’ll go along with the other projection systems and give him a .290-.295 average. These are very good stats but not in line with a 1st round pick where we’ve seen him go in some mock drafts. Our Point Shares (http://razzball.com/2009-fantasy-baseball-rankings/razzball-2009-projected-point-shares-10-team/) project him finishing in the 40′s in value but, if you remove some pitchers above him b/c their ADP’s don’t warrant top 3 round picking, that gets him in the 3rd round not far from Grey’s pick of him at #22 (http://razzball.com/top-100-for-2009-fantasy-baseball/).

    So is he SUPER overrated. Nah. But should he be taken in late 1st round/early 2nd round as we’ve seen in some cases. No. (We’re close to in agreement with ESPN which has him at #18. That’s more defensible than Ichiro at #21 – see http://razzball.com/2009-fantasy-baseball-rankings/razzball-2009-projected-point-shares-10-team/ for my rant about him.

    Re: the ‘Howard Stern’ antics, there are two sides to every story. ESPN contacts us on whether we wanted to interview Matthew Berry. They did not provide a briefing nor asked for questions in advance. We were expecting to submit the questions and get written answers (you can see our baseball previews where we pose questions to local blogs – http://razzball.com/category/2009-team-preview/ – as examples). ESPN requested we do it over the phone.

    Mr. Berry fully acknowledged that he’d never read our site before. Again, ESPN’s bad for not being prepared. PR 101. That probably would’ve helped set expectations but we’ll take responsibility for being inexperienced interviewers. We should’ve thrown some softball questions out there to start before anything more challenging. We may have gone too far in being acerbic or tongue-in-cheek. It obviously didn’t leave a positive impression with Mr. Berry.

    We asked some general fantasy baseball questions and also took the opportunity to ask what we thought were interesting questions – e.g., ‘Why doesn’t ESPN back up their ‘manifestos’ with real data given the amazing data set they have at their disposal?’ and ‘Given that ESPN FLB writers are quite vocal in their strategies, does it make sense for ESPN players (of which, we have many) to zag against their strategy vs zig?’ Were we supposed to just ask only Fantasy 101 questions that we already have set opinions on?

    The end result was verbatim (at least 1-2 questions/replies were not included b/c neither the question nor reply was that interesting). We did not edit his comments out of context as he said in the chat (there was some re-ordering for flow). If he wanted to pimp the ESPN fantasy baseball platform, we would’ve printed that. We’re fans of the new platform. We mention ESPN 11 times in the post!

    So it’s disappointing his experience was so unsatisfactory that he had to go Buzz Bissinger on us in the chat room but such is life. We don’t really have any ill-will or desire to propagate a flame war. And that’s that.

    Thanks again for taking the time to share your comments with us and Razzball nation. Hope to see you again.

    Rudy

  34. MrGrinch says:
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    tired of hearing about this POS, im gonna become a crackhead and then recover and then give money to charity or something so i can become a “hero”

  35. Cotton says:
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    1000-word posts suck.

  36. Johnny says:
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    Haha someone was absolutely on target.

  37. Toni says:
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    Looks like you jumped the gun on this one. The dude can flat out rake.

  38. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Toni: Welcome to the site! This post is from 2009 preseason. Not this one.

  39. justin says:
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    so does everyone that posted on here a year ago feel like an idiot yet? you should…

  40. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @justin: This post isn’t from last year.

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