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		<title>By: Paulie Allnuts</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-359169</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulie Allnuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Rudy for a great article.

Bagwell likely won&#039;t get in on the first ballot due to suspicion of steroid use:


As per Dan Graziano, AOL Fanhouse&#039;s Dan Graziano reports. &quot;Graziano, a Hall of Fame voter, said he didn&#039;t vote for Bagwell due to the suspicion because he would rather withhold the vote based on suspicion rather than vote him in and find out later that he used performance-enhancing drugs.&quot;

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=689383-mlb-jeff-bagwell-steroids-suspicion-turning-voters#ixzz19ruwQ0va

This suspicion, whether warrented or not, has put a cloud over all players from the late 90&#039;s- early 20th century era. Sooner or later, their will be  proof that someone already in the Hall has taken steroids during his career; undoubtably, there are some already in who have used PED&#039;s. Since they don&#039;t kick out players from the Hall, what would be the rationale to keep out players whose stats deserve induction, but are known steroid users? 

Please don&#039;t underate the effects of steroiods. Outside of increasing power, it also increases eye-hand coordination. So that ballplayer who was unable to hit the slider may now be able to do so with PED&#039;s. Jose Canseco states that he wouldn&#039;t have made it to the major leagues without steroids. 


BTW, I would give Eddie Murray a small edge over Bagwell. Although he never won an MVP, almost every season he put up numbers that were consistent with a contender for that award. I don&#039;t know his career WAR stats, but I do know that he put up terrific numbers in a number of different ballparks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rudy for a great article.</p>
<p>Bagwell likely won&#8217;t get in on the first ballot due to suspicion of steroid use:</p>
<p>As per Dan Graziano, AOL Fanhouse&#8217;s Dan Graziano reports. &#8220;Graziano, a Hall of Fame voter, said he didn&#8217;t vote for Bagwell due to the suspicion because he would rather withhold the vote based on suspicion rather than vote him in and find out later that he used performance-enhancing drugs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=689383-mlb-jeff-bagwell-steroids-suspicion-turning-voters#ixzz19ruwQ0va" rel="nofollow">http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=689383-mlb-jeff-bagwell-steroids-suspicion-turning-voters#ixzz19ruwQ0va</a></p>
<p>This suspicion, whether warrented or not, has put a cloud over all players from the late 90&#8242;s- early 20th century era. Sooner or later, their will be  proof that someone already in the Hall has taken steroids during his career; undoubtably, there are some already in who have used PED&#8217;s. Since they don&#8217;t kick out players from the Hall, what would be the rationale to keep out players whose stats deserve induction, but are known steroid users? </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t underate the effects of steroiods. Outside of increasing power, it also increases eye-hand coordination. So that ballplayer who was unable to hit the slider may now be able to do so with PED&#8217;s. Jose Canseco states that he wouldn&#8217;t have made it to the major leagues without steroids. </p>
<p>BTW, I would give Eddie Murray a small edge over Bagwell. Although he never won an MVP, almost every season he put up numbers that were consistent with a contender for that award. I don&#8217;t know his career WAR stats, but I do know that he put up terrific numbers in a number of different ballparks.</p>
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		<title>By: the fake tom</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-359033</link>
		<dc:creator>the fake tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 05:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-359025&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GopherDay&lt;/a&gt;: 

Couldn&#039;t agree more, I only played in college, but I knew some of the guys were juicing and such.  It helped them with building muscle and speed, but sure as hell didn&#039;t help them hit a slider.  (granted it did help them hit the freaking piss out of the ball when they got it)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-359025" rel="nofollow">GopherDay</a>: </p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more, I only played in college, but I knew some of the guys were juicing and such.  It helped them with building muscle and speed, but sure as hell didn&#8217;t help them hit a slider.  (granted it did help them hit the freaking piss out of the ball when they got it)</p>
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		<title>By: GopherDay</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-359025</link>
		<dc:creator>GopherDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-358872&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudy Gamble&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m a Astros fan, and I agree with you on this. If there isn&#039;t definate proof, then don&#039;t consider it. Even then, assuming everyone was using steroids, doesn&#039;t the playing field even out then?  About a year ago, I was listening to some talk radio and they were talking to a former major league player that had taken steroids. (He was an okay player, never great) But his whole point was that steroids helped, but in the long run it still comes down to your ability to hit the ball. No matter how many steroids you take, they won&#039;t help you hit the ball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-358872" rel="nofollow">Rudy Gamble</a>: I&#8217;m a Astros fan, and I agree with you on this. If there isn&#8217;t definate proof, then don&#8217;t consider it. Even then, assuming everyone was using steroids, doesn&#8217;t the playing field even out then?  About a year ago, I was listening to some talk radio and they were talking to a former major league player that had taken steroids. (He was an okay player, never great) But his whole point was that steroids helped, but in the long run it still comes down to your ability to hit the ball. No matter how many steroids you take, they won&#8217;t help you hit the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: sambosr</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-359022</link>
		<dc:creator>sambosr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356601&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cws05nuts&lt;/a&gt; Bagwell has never been linked steroids or hgh. You can not say he used if theres no proof!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356601" rel="nofollow">cws05nuts</a> Bagwell has never been linked steroids or hgh. You can not say he used if theres no proof!</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading a few more writers explain their ballots, it&#039;s clear that at least some writers are not considering Bagwell because they suspect him of using steroids.  Such a witch hunt.  I think the HOF should require voters not to speculate.  It&#039;s fine to not vote for McGwire or Palmeiro because of steroid usage as they were found guilty....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading a few more writers explain their ballots, it&#8217;s clear that at least some writers are not considering Bagwell because they suspect him of using steroids.  Such a witch hunt.  I think the HOF should require voters not to speculate.  It&#8217;s fine to not vote for McGwire or Palmeiro because of steroid usage as they were found guilty&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Gamble</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-356858</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356268&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Al Swedgin&lt;/a&gt;: Ha!  That was a funny post.  I grew up reading Dan Graziano in the NJ Star-Ledger!

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356586&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;big o&lt;/a&gt;:  Pretty weighty?  Are you saying my post was fat?  Well, I never...

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356601&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cws05nuts&lt;/a&gt;:  @&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356628&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;johnson&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t know if he was a juicer.  I don&#039;t care anymore at this point.  I figure enough hitters AND pitchers were using steroids that a high WAR or OPS+ in that period is still impressive.

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356665&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mowses&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks.  I already don&#039;t have enough time to write posts on Razzball and KitchenSnark.com though!

@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356838&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eddy&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356268" rel="nofollow">Al Swedgin</a>: Ha!  That was a funny post.  I grew up reading Dan Graziano in the NJ Star-Ledger!</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356586" rel="nofollow">big o</a>:  Pretty weighty?  Are you saying my post was fat?  Well, I never&#8230;</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356601" rel="nofollow">cws05nuts</a>:  @<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356628" rel="nofollow">johnson</a>: I don&#8217;t know if he was a juicer.  I don&#8217;t care anymore at this point.  I figure enough hitters AND pitchers were using steroids that a high WAR or OPS+ in that period is still impressive.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356665" rel="nofollow">Mowses</a>: Thanks.  I already don&#8217;t have enough time to write posts on Razzball and KitchenSnark.com though!</p>
<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356838" rel="nofollow">Eddy</a>: Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic article, Rudy. I&#039;ve never been one to care so much for HOF ballots but this piece really captured my interest. I can&#039;t wait to see the upcoming ones.

Good to hear from ya!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic article, Rudy. I&#8217;ve never been one to care so much for HOF ballots but this piece really captured my interest. I can&#8217;t wait to see the upcoming ones.</p>
<p>Good to hear from ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Mowses</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Rudy, you should consider writing for Beyond the Boxscore or Fangraphs unless you already do it with a different alias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Rudy, you should consider writing for Beyond the Boxscore or Fangraphs unless you already do it with a different alias.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Swedgin</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/#comment-356661</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Swedgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356628&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;johnson&lt;/a&gt;: Umm, there&#039;s a fairly significant difference between Bagwell and the names you listed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/jeff-bagwell-2011-hall-of-fame-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-356628" rel="nofollow">johnson</a>: Umm, there&#8217;s a fairly significant difference between Bagwell and the names you listed.</p>
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		<title>By: johnson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well done.  I admit I always lumped Bagwell in with the rest of the 90&#039;s 1st basemen.  Not any more.  But, like cws05nuts said, the guy was an obvious steroid user (imo) and the voting will reflect that.  He&#039;s not getting in this year.  Hopefully he will in the coming years- along with Bonds, ARod, Clemens, ect.  But not as long as the HOF writers feel the need to punish the same guys the lovingly pined over for almost two decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well done.  I admit I always lumped Bagwell in with the rest of the 90&#8242;s 1st basemen.  Not any more.  But, like cws05nuts said, the guy was an obvious steroid user (imo) and the voting will reflect that.  He&#8217;s not getting in this year.  Hopefully he will in the coming years- along with Bonds, ARod, Clemens, ect.  But not as long as the HOF writers feel the need to punish the same guys the lovingly pined over for almost two decades.</p>
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		<title>By: cws05nuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>cws05nuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Juicer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juicer.</p>
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		<title>By: big o</title>
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		<dc:creator>big o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pretty weighty article .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty weighty article .</p>
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		<title>By: Al Swedgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Swedgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice write-up, Rudy.  You&#039;ve probably read this, but for those who haven&#039;t it&#039;s pretty amusing (and on-topic):  http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2010/12/dan-graziano-no-for-this-writer.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write-up, Rudy.  You&#8217;ve probably read this, but for those who haven&#8217;t it&#8217;s pretty amusing (and on-topic):  <a href="http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2010/12/dan-graziano-no-for-this-writer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2010/12/dan-graziano-no-for-this-writer.html</a></p>
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