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Hey, I’m outside of a mall in my home state, New Jersey, and I’m carrying a long microphone that I got from a garage sale.  The microphone was supposedly used by Curt Gowdy in the 70’s.  I’m out here today, while being filmed like it’s a bad 1980’s commercial, because I want to ask people what they think of Jacoby Ellsbury for this year.  “Do you think Jacoby Ellsbury can stay healthy?”  “What the f**k did you just say to me?”  “Was wondering if you thought Jacoby Ellsbury could hit 25-plus homers again with the short porch?”  “How about you get on a short bus, f**k nuts?”  “Can Jacoby Ellsbury steal 50-plus bases?”  “Go f**k yourself.”  There you have it!  The people of New Jersey have spoken.  Yeah, Jacoby Ellsbury has had seasons of illustrious glory.  Capable of 30 homers?  He did that.  Capable of 70 steals?  And you know that.  Has dreadful seasons?  *looks slowly right, looks slowly left, tiptoes out of the room*  Anyway, why is Jacoby Ellsbury overrated for 2014 fantasy baseball?

I don’t think even the most optimistic of glass-is-half-full’ers thinks he’s going to hit 30+ homers, let alone 20+.  He averages 8.4% HR/FB, but that’s being buoyed by his huge 32-homer year.  You remove that and you’re looking at around 6%.  That’s around that of Michael Bourn, Ichiro, Brett Gardner, etc. etc. etc.  We’re looking at a 10-homer guy.  Ellsbury hits a ton of ground balls, which usually aren’t aided by a short porch unless there’s some Winter X Games-like ramp going up at 2nd base and into the stands this year in New York.  Speaking of which, I saw about five minutes of the Winter Olympics and happened to catch freeskiing, which not only takes a really stoned person to participate in, apparently, but also to think it should be one word.  “Can I get a hyphen up in here?!” is what the word freeskiing says when it enters a club.  As for freeskiing, are the coaches stoned too because anyone with half a brain cell can look at one of the ‘freeskiers’ and tell them they’d be able to twist in the air and land a whole lot better if they pulled up their pants.  Wow, I just sounded like my father.  Any the hoo!  A 6% HR/FB is fine for him; ground balls aren’t bad for him.  I’m just pointing out that you shouldn’t expect more than 15 homers.  I have him down for 13.  Our Steamer projections have him down for 14.1 homers.  That’s 14 homers and a single with three errors.  Cousin Oliver’s projections have him for 9 homers.  ESPN has him projected for 18 homers.  So there’s that.  Now his steals should be there.  30+ bags, definitely.  I have him down for 32 steals, which is admittedly on the low side, but that’s because I don’t see Ellsbury playing a full year.  Since 2009, his games played has been 153, 18, 158, 74 and 134.  Obviously he’s two years older since his last full season.  At this point, I’d consider 130 games a full year from him.  For those reading along at home, and even some of you reading along at the office, 130 games isn’t a full season.  As for others, our Steamer projections have him down for 35.7 steals, Oliver has him down for 46 steals and ESPN has him down for 45.  I can’t wrap my head around taking Ellsbury anywhere near the first round with his history of injuries.  Though I could wrap my head around a pole if my pants were sagging when I was ski jumping from 50 feet.  Not to mention, I’d much rather a guy who could hit 40+ homers, than a guy that could steal 40+ bases — SAGNOF!  ESPN has him at 7 overall, Yahoo has him at 18, CBS has him at 8 and I have him at 30.  I.e., puff, puff, puff, pass.

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  1. J-FOH says:
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    The People of New Jersey have spoken!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @J-FOH: And they are asking, “What exit are you from?”

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: and I respond, “I got your f**king exit right here”

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Can’t argue with that logic… About to do my first draft of the year…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: that’s got to make you a little giddy……which one?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              CBS AL-Only 12 team… Looking at guys like Henry Urethra…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: funny, I just looked at my Urethra when i got out of the shower

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Funny I was just listening to Buddy by De La Soul

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Buddy Buddy Buddy all in my face

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yup!

  2. Not the Mama says:
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    Keeper Time, I need some help.
    14 team H2H 5×5

    Pick 2
    W Myers 15th round
    Rizzo 16th
    B Miller 18th
    S Gray 18th
    Porcello 18th

  3. Kryptoknight says:
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    It always amuses me when some calls a player “injury prone” when their injuries were caused by two freak accidents. One a major collision in the outfield, that involved broken ribs, one a serious collision at 2nd base.

    It’s not the same thing as a chronic injury like (Insert here) Sore back, hamstring, sore elbow etc.

    How is someone involved in a major collision “injury prone”.

    I guess if he is another major collision you will have a point because he seems to be injury prone when involved in “Freak Accidents”.

    • Lville Jim says:
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      @Kryptoknight: Then freak accident injury prone instead of just the standard Injury prone.

      • Kryptoknight says:
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        @Lville Jim: @Lville Jim: @Lville Jim: @Lville Jim:

        I can go along with that Jim. If he gets run over by a bull at the running of the bulls in Spain, it’s highly likely he will miss some time during the season.

    • Andrew A says:
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      @Kryptoknight:

      completely agree. See Allen Craig

    • Hawk says:
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      @Kryptoknight:

      Some guys get into major collisions and walk away unscathed.
      Some guys get into similar major collisions and things break / tear.

      Those bottom guys are injury prone.

      • Rufus T. Firefly says:
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        If you actually watch the two big injuries you see why not many guys are walking away unscathed. First one he got run over by Adrian Beltre– very big and strong dude– running full tilt into his ribs with his knee. Ouch.

        The shoulder separation was big ugly shortstop getting flipped and landing square on him. Hard.

        He may be a slow healer, but those hits were two bad ones.

        • Hawk says:
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          @Rufus T. Firefly:

          What I’m saying is that in the same situation, another guy may not have sustained the same injury. I’m no doctor – the best way I can say it is that some guys are more breakable than others.

          Ellsbury, Cargo, Tulo, seemingly Giancarlo Stanton…they break more than their peers.

      • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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        @Hawk: are you saying Ellsbury is a bottom? I did not know that about him.

        • Hawk says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice:

          If that’s sarcasm, it’s good :)

          I do think Ellsbury, Cargo, Tulo are guys I’d consider in the bottom group. It’s not that they’re in worse shape than anyone else – its that where some guys take that hit from an Adrian Beltre (or some similarly traumatic event) and nothing pops or breaks, on guys like Ellsbury, Cargo…it pops or breaks

          They don’t make steroids that strengthen bone density (preventing breaks), strengthen tendons / ligaments (preventing ACL / MCL kinda injuries) or make muscles more elastic (preventing pulls and strains). Until they do, the Ellsbury’s and Cargo’s of the world are risks.

    • Theo says:
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      @Kryptoknight: If a guy who gets hurt more often than an average player when running into things also gets a lot of his value from his speed, I’d say that player carries above average injury risk.

      • Kryptoknight says:
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        @Theo:

        So you would have to give examples of similar accidents where a player Ellsbury’s size getting creamed by a player Beltre’s size in the same manner walks away, not just an off the top of the head “assumption”. And what factor does fate play? That the knee and the speed and the weight hit him just right? Too many people throw around the “injury prone label” whose medical degree consists of playing doctor with the girl next door. He may not get in another collision in the next 10 years and suddenly he’s not “injury prone” (until he pulls his hamstring).

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Kryptoknight: i’ll be back later but craig is completely injury prone. I don’t have the shandler forecaster on me now, but craig’s three year history (maybe 4) really should preclude anybody with a memory from saying he’s “simply unlucky”, if by “unlucky” you believe it’s completely not predictable that he will very likely miss some time each year from now till the end of time. He’s not quite as bad as Tulo though. Did anyone actually see the play that he broke some ribs on last year (or 2 years ago, whichever it was), it was a simple slide for a grounder play. the man broke multiple ribs doing a completely routine play. (like SAM JACKSON! from Unbreakable, but less so)
      Probability-wise it completely is possible that somebody simply has a lot more “freak” accidents than other people (in the sense that the newest accident wasn’t at all caused by the previous ones). Same way that if you have enough people flipping coins around enough times eventually one of them will flip heads 20 times in a row. It doesn’t mean that person is using a trick coin or has some skill at flipping heads, just at a certain number of trials 20 heads should come up.
      Just because somebody only remembers one Craig injury that appears non-repeatable that doesn’t make his history not exist. Nor does that put us in the realm of the guy who flipped 20 heads in a row, even if we WERE in that realm we’d have no good reason to think so.
      What’s even more crazy to believe is that after all of these injuries a person’s body simply gets to go back to the pre-injury condition.

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        @goodfold2:
        This whole conversation about being injury prone and major collisions has me giggling about FRAGILE (must be Italian) and Major Awards. Ells should have to run bases with a leg lamp.

    • Blue says:
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      @Kryptoknight:

      You know that friend who always seems to be getting into minor car wrecks, altercations, and various and sundry mishaps any one of which is explicable? Don’t you draw the conclusion, eventually, that it’s something about him or her? Chalk it up to horrible karma, bad luck, Yahweh deciding he is Job Part 2, whatever. There’s something not right!

      • Kryptoknight says:
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        @Blue:

        I am not superstitious.

  4. SteveNZ says:
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    Come on Grey. I’m sure you said once you were a bit of a skier. You’ve got to love you some men’s downhill, surely?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @SteveNZ: that’s what she said.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @SteveNZ: I didn’t watch it… Kinda have no interest…

      • Jay says:
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        @Grey: I prefer snow tubing myself.. When are they going to turn that into an Olympic sport? I can see it now, you think snowboarders are stoners…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          And on the course are little kids you have to avoid, and teenagers drinking…

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: starting to sound like real life Skate or Die.

  5. Birdog says:
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    You went all the way to Jersey just to interview for an article on Ellsbury? You’re very dedicated to your craft! You take the Razzball corporate jet? Cool.

    I was on the fence about Ellsbury. Will probably pass on him now. I pass on grass all the time. (Not really.)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Birdog: Ha, anything for youse…

  6. Brent says:
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    missing 30 games a year is a full season for guys like CarGo, Tulo and Ellsbury. Having Ellsbury at #7 is horrible though I’ve noticed that ESPN’s rankings suck in general.

    • Beastman says:
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      @Brent: Good comparison with CarGo and Tulo. Tremendous potential but so much risk involved in making them a top pick. And with Ellsbury’s power numbers likely not approaching that 30-hr season, he’s even less worth a top 20 pick.

      Plus Jersey guy hates answering questions about him, so there’s that to consider.

      • Hawk says:
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        @Beastman:

        Go back a week or so and look at Rudy’s post about how much of your team’s overall hitting is impacted by the success of your first round pick. Then decide if Tulo / Cargo are still worth the risk. To me, there’s no way they are.

        • Justin says:
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          @Hawk: What do you think about Upton vs. Ellsbury for a 3rd OF? I kept Bruce and Myers, Upton and Ellsbury are still on the board starting the 6th round (10 teams)

          • Hawk says:
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            @Justin:

            I assume you mean Justin, not BJ.

            As a 3rd OF / 6th round pick, I have no problem with Ellsbury. I’d just avoid him as your 1st or 2nd rounder.

    • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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      @Brent: They have Castro and Aramis Ramirez way high. Maybe a Cubs fans runs the rankings? Or it’s a practical joke?

      • Justin says:
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        @Jeff in Southern Indiana: Did you see where they have Brandon Phillips and Kinsler. I believe both in the top 50. Shit is nuts.

        • Birdog says:
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          @Wubsy: I’m sure glad you didn’t say northern Indiana, or we’d be fightin’

          • Wubsy says:
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            @Birdog: @Jeff in Southern Indiana: No birdog I’ve got Fightin’ Irish family there – just kidding with the Cub hater.

        • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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          @Wubsy: The Hate is strong this morning!

  7. stonepie says:
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    grey what are your thoughts on platoons in fantasy? im in a 10 teamer with 2 UTIL spots and im thinking about drafting a few guys like moss, lind, morneau and rotating them.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @stonepie: I like it if you have the bench room…

  8. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Now I’m homesick. Ohio is like a different planet…good logic on the homers for Jacoby.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: Round on the sides, high in the middle…

      • Mike

        Mike says:
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        I miss traffic circles, the Parkway, flipping the bird as a form of hello, and the diners…my god the diners…

        here in central Ohio it’s “do you hunt?”

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          What exit were you from?

          • Mike

            Mike says:
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            I was about 10 minutes from Philly on the Jersey side, so closer to 95/295 than the P’way. We’d take AC E to the Parkway every summer to hit the shore…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Where on the shore?

              • Mike

                Mike says:
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                Cape May, Wildwood

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Nice… My stepfather’s family owned a hotel down there… King’s Inn…

                  • Mike

                    Mike says:
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                    @Grey: Nice! the beach motels down there are the best

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, I think it was a rat trap, but I never saw it in person… Was before I was in the family…

                    • Mike

                      Mike says:
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                      cool…good luck in the draft

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Thanks!

  9. TheNewGuy says:
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    Due to the never ending supply of chocolate, umm no wait I mean never ending supply of pitching (been watching too much of Charlie and the chocolate factory), would you keep a bat over an arm if it’s close?

    $8 H Bailey vs $16 Hunter Pence. I have more bats than arms kept already but figure theres always going to be pitching available in the draft, wheres OFs im not so sure. Close enough to take the safer option in a hitter in Pence here?

    • @TheNewGuy: You don’t need to include the (bit about the chocolate factory). Your writing is stronger without it.

  10. Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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    I’m afraid of regression with Pence and see him as riskier personally. He’s 31 and coming off his best year ever.

    He had 22 steals after only stealing 13 bags combined in the two previous years.

  11. Justin says:
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    LF-CF-RF league, 10 teams, 5 keepers. I kept Bruce in RF and Myers in CF. At pick 51, Ellsbury (CF only) and Upton (LF) are on the board. So is Machado. Everyday I shake my magic eight ball and get a different answer … so let me shake the magic Grey ball …

  12. TheNewGuy says:
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    The voice of reason speaks again! Totally agree about Ellsbury, 1st round is nuts. People think he is Carl Crawford in his prime, which he could be if he ever played a full season (he wont).

    • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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      @TheNewGuy: he’s played in multiple “full seasons” already. I’m not saying his ADP isn’t screwy, but let’s get the facts straight at least.

      • Cram It says:
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        @RandomItalicizedVoice: Don’t mind him. He says a lot of misguided things.

  13. The Thumb says:
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    If Ellsbury was guaranteed to put up the exact same numbers as last year, where would he go?

    • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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      @The Thumb: Since he would be the only player in history with a no-risk guarantee he’d be #1 on my board.

  14. dude says:
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    My final 2 keeper spots are for 2B and RP/MR. Based I salaries I can keep the following;

    Hill & Cook

    Dozier & Grilli

    Dozier & Janssen

    Should I go with Dozier and a closer or Hill and a MR?

    • dude says:
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      @dude:

      Other option;

      Dozier and Rodney.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dude: Hill

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Grey: Hill and a closer isn’t an option?

  15. Dansuggla says:
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    Keeper time!

    12 team, $260. Standard 5×5 h2h

    Wainwright 14

    Or Freeman 15?

  16. The Flayed Man says:
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    Greetings everyone,

    Another excellent article, Grey.

    Question for everyone :

    12 team 13 keeper roto ops leagues.

    My Craig/Strasburg for his Goldschmidt. I am already keeping Sale, Verlander and S. Miller. I was on the fence about keeping Craig. I do have Pujols whom I can insert into the City slot.

    Thanks.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @The Flayed Man:

      he prolly won’t go for it , but i’d offer
      craig/verlander 1st .

      • frankgrimes says:
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        @Grey: Goldy is always the answer. AuShizz!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Grimey!

  17. Chin Music says:
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    In my 12 team keeper league, I traded Ellsbury last week with Allen Craig and a late 2nd rd. supplemental draft pick for Carlos Gonzalez and a 5th rd. pick. With about 125 players getting kept, the downgrade in draft picks takes me from around the 150th best player available to around the 175th best player available. If CarGo can qualify at CF this year, it gives me Braun/Cargo/Bruce as my OF, with Edwin Encarnacion as a 4th big bat.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Chin Music:
      it may be just spring training talk , but cargo is slated to play
      left field almost exclusively , and not be moved around so much .

      regardless , imo , that was a horrible trade for you.

  18. Pete says:
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    What about in a H2H league that counts Total Bases? Would you rank him higher?

  19. booya says:
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    who would you rank as the top 5 holds guys?

    thanks

      • booya says:
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        @Grey: is there a way you could add a holds projection to that sheet maybe?

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            @Grey: I meant add holds as a category to your top 400 rankings sheet. I saw the player rater holds that you linked to but it doesn’t really make sense to me. It seems like you can sort by a $ amount put on holds but it doesn’t factor in ERA, Ks and WHIP into that $ amount? For instance Melancon shows $5.6 and Jerry Blevins shows $8…I don’t get it. Maybe I’m missing how this is supposed to be used?

            • Grey

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              It definitely does factor in all categories…

            • SteveNZ says:
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              @booya: ERA/WHIP/Ks isn’t factored into the Holds dollar amount – it’s factored into the total dollar amount for that player.

              But there is a separate $ amount for each of the pitching categories so you can look at each Holds guy (once you’ve sorted on Holds) and get an idea of his value in ERA/WHIP/Ks.

              Hope that makes sense.

              Grey – correct me if I’m wrong.

              • Grey

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                That’s right… Rudy’s the man to ask for clarification…

  20. Wake Up says:
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    The GW would look like the Autobahn compared to what would happen at the top of the hill…if in between crystal comparisons and stoked level checks…the dreads were parted to reveal this sign “Free Skiing”…please no space and certainly no hyphen!

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: Are you doing Tout this year?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I am, yeah… March 20th I think

  21. George says:
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    In our contract league, Jacoby Ellsbury, who was on my squad for the last three years, was drafted 1st overall in this years’ entry/re-draft. We are just about to enter the 9th round.

    Looking for a 5th outfielder, as a long-time supporter of all things Red Sox, I drafted Jackie Bradley Jr. in the 8th round (pick 109).

    I plan on re-drafting Bradley next year based on what he does this year and what the value is.

    The point I am trying to make about Ellsbury is that Bradley is a better value at pick 109 in a dynasty contract league than Ellsbury at pick #1 and ahead of the likes of Freddie Freeman, Adam Jones and even Carlos Santana (whom I picked at overall pick #13 and followed by Beltran, Aramis Ramirez, Chase Utley, Chase Headley, Dylan Bundy and Aj Burnett).

  22. Greyismyhero says:
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    Awesome!! A stoners post that all of us stoners can relate to!!! Yeah, I’m here and listening while smoking and I’m definitely passing…Love it!!!

  23. Hawk says:
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    ESPN has him at 7 overall, Yahoo has him at 18, CBS has him at 8 and I have him at 30. I.e., puff, puff, puff, pass.

    LMAO!

    Seriously though, I think Ellsbury was on PEDs when he hit 32 HR. It’ll come out now that he’s on the Yankees. I’d stay away until around pick 50, 60 even. Even hurt, he should produce 6th round value.

    • Grey

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      @Hawk: That wouldn’t surprise me

  24. Jon says:
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    Do you like dealing Posey for pitching in a keep forever league (10 teams, we keep 18), or would you keep the bat? I’m looking at guys like Anibal or Minor.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Jon: Keep forever league, I’d shoot for a young pitcher.

      • Jon says:
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        @Cram It: so someone like Gray or Cole rather than Minor/Anibal?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: How about Cole?

      • Jon says:
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        @Grey: I’m asking for Cole+Avisail Garcia in return for Posey. See how that goes.

        The other option I could put on the table would be Posey+Medlen for both Anibal+Minor.

        Do you like the Cole return better?

        • Grey

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          Cole

  25. My gut feeling on Jacoby is to avoid him. However, I. can see why peeps are excited at his chances this year. Speed, power and plenty of AB’s if he can stay on field.

  26. J Money says:
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    12 team Roto 6v6 (OPS v QS) Yahoo standard positions
    Keep 3 players ( 2 batters, 1 pitcher) in the following rounds at the cost of my draft pick.
    I have two late 3rd round picks if that makes a difference.

    Goldy (1) – keeper 1
    Fielder (2)
    Bautista (3)
    Choo (4)
    Gyorko (13)

    Zimmermann (6)
    Ryu (9)
    Miller (9)
    Shields (8)

    Thanks

    • Grey

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      @J Money: Goldy, Fielder, Gyorko

  27. whampwhamp says:
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    @ Grey if i can keep sale for nothing in a 12 team snake H2H when should i be thinking about taking my first pitcher and who do you think? Something like Latos/Lirano 5th round sound about right? get a 3rd basemen, first baseman, outfielder and short stop before thinking pitcher.

  28. TheNewLeaf says:
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    While I agree that Ellsbury is a bit overrated given the risk and uncertainty, I do believe that there’s a lot to like about Ellsbury this year…and I can’t kill someone for wanting to draft him in the first round, especially in a shallower league where you can afford to take more gambles:

    1) Ellsburys injuries are of the flukey variety. He’s not a guy with a chronic hamstring, for example, or any reoccurring injury demonstrating fragility. If you want to say that his style of play lends himself to that, it’s fair, but it’s baseball so I wouldn’t be overly concerned with that.

    2) Ellsbury could conceivably have been sapped of power following his shoulder injury in 2012, and he didn’t fully recover until the 2nd half of 2013. This argument has some merit. Shoulder injuries are dangerous for hitters and many power hitters have been sapped of power following a shoulder injury. It’s not crazy to deduce that Ellsbury was never right in 2012, and the shoulder injury even lingered into 2013. Ellsbury hit 8 of his 9 home runs in the 2nd half last year, and his peripherals did back that up. He’s not a30+ power guy, but I don’t believe he’s a M.Bourn/B.Gardner type either.

    3) Fenway suppresses left handed power 21%; Yankee stadium boosts it by 33%. That’s quite a swing. That means that ellsburys homerun total last year could’ve been closer to 15 at his new home, and closer to 15 in the 2nd half at his new home. Other players with similar profiles have seen dramatic increases in their homerun totals when making this switch: J.Damon went from 10 to 24 homers when making the switch from Fenway and had his two highest career homerun totals at age 33 & 36 at Yankee stadium. Ichiro hit 5 homers in 227 at bats when he came over (at 38) after having 5 in almost 700 the year before.

    I think Ellsburys move to the Bronx would be reason for optimism alone, given how the ballpark plays to his type. Add in that he did once flash big power and the possibility that last years 2nd half is a demonstration of what’s to come from a now fully healthy Ellsbury and I believe there’s reason to expect a big year:

    .295-18-70-95-45

    • Cram It says:
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      @TheNewLeaf: Another way to look at it is….dude has NEVER hit double digit HR’s on ANY level except for that 32 spot in 2011. All the while his LD%, GB/FB% have stayed generally the same. The HR/FB% was a ridonkulous spike.

    • Grey

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      @TheNewLeaf: 18/45 would make him a first rounder, and I’m not saying it’s completely out of the realm of possibility, just feels like the best case scenario and unlikely… You make decent points though…

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @TheNewLeaf: Interesting argument, however, Ells has only hit 4 homeruns in 144 PA at new yankee stadium. Not exactly encouraging..

    • J-FOH says:
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      @TheNewLeaf: I prefer to play it safer in the first round and not draft 4th round numbers with healthy optimism. He may do what you say but there is too much if and not enough certainty

  29. Ralph Lifshitz

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    This is a year where there are a lot of Schmohawks getting drafted way to early by over zealous owners. I have a feeling non-razzball leagues could be a bit easier once again. The mocks I’ve done the last few days have been hilarious, lots of guys with big mouths taking Kershaw 5th overall. I took this team last night (I didn’t draft any closers because it’s too early to really know the best bargain donkeycorns) and people were so down on my draft they were calling my mother a whore! Not that I need the approval of Yahoo mock drafters but my mother is a very nice lady and she typically sluts it up for free!

    1. Andrew McCutchen (Pit – OF)
    2. David Wright (NYM – 3B)
    3. Giancarlo Stanton (Mia – OF)
    4. Álex Ríos (Tex – OF)
    5. Wil Myers (TB – OF)
    6. Anthony Rizzo (ChC – 1B)
    7. Gerrit Cole (Pit – SP)
    8. Alex Cobb (TB – SP)
    9. Starlin Castro (ChC – SS)
    10. José Abreu (CWS – 1B)
    11. Francisco Liriano (Pit – SP)
    12. Sonny Gray (Oak – SP)
    13. Jedd Gyorko (SD – 2B,3B)
    14. Norichika Aoki (KC – OF)
    15. Zack Wheeler (NYM – SP)
    16. Corey Kluber (Cle – SP)
    17. Brandon Beachy (Atl – SP)
    18. Alex Wood (Atl – SP,RP)
    19. Taijuan Walker (Sea – SP)
    20. George Springer (Hou – OF)
    21. Marco Estrada (Mil – SP)
    22. Tyson Ross (SD – SP,RP)
    23. Yan Gomes (Cle – C)

    thoughts?

    • Greyismyhero says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz:

      Nice team, yeah those mocks over there do get annoying sometime, there seems to be a lot of pretenders that talk a lot of smack. I usually link em to a NFBC league to join with me..They usually shut up after that…LOL.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Greyismyhero: Yeah it was free for all, I had some goon draft A-Ram and Lester at the 9th and 10th round turn and he started acting like he just found a new civilization. The big issue was where I drafted Rizzo and Gyorko. There were also a bunch of hurry up and draft loonies. You’re doing a mock draft at 9 pm on a Monday, what are you rushing for?

    • TheNewLeaf says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz:

      1) you can’t not draft closers and use this as a meaningful exercise. Of course your team looks more loaded without using 3 mid round picks on closers while everyone else does.

      2) the strategies in here are meant more for a deep no innings max league. In a shallow yahoo standard with an IP limit you can’t dismiss starters like you did. Winning eras could be around 3.00 in these types.

      You need to tailer these ranking to the league settings you’re playing in. Your draftmates may have had a point.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @TheNewLeaf: It’s February 17th (when drafted) if there are 20 closers that will be closing in May I’d be shocked. The wavier wire and late rounds are for closers. I start to hone in on the particular names I want in mid-march. This time last year people thought Ryan Madson, Hannarahaaaaaaaaan, and a few others were draftable. Probably feeling justified after I did the same thing last year and ended up with Fieri (not the best but SAGNOF Bitch! <as said by Jessie Pinkman), Koji (Bailey before him), Jensen (via trade), Melancon/ Grilli….Also it was head 2 head draft.

        • TheNewLeaf says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz: you’re missing the point. You are gonna have to draft closers, so the rounds that you would be taking closers you instead used to deepen your team, which skews the outcome. It doesn’t matter who the closers are; it matters that you have to draft them and you didn’t.

          Your pitching is also very risky. It’s a bunch of upside but no track record whatsoever. At a quick glance you have one 200 inning season on your whole staff. You’re presuming every single sleeper/breakout candidate meets expectations. Many will not. In such a shallow league, there’s a ton of late round/waiver offense as well and your draft needs to be balanced.

    • Beardcrabs says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: your pitching has a no track record…

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Beardcrabs: Track records are for dead arms!

    • Jay says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: it’s so difficult to gauge how my league draft will go based on the yahoo mocks. today for example I had a fully attended mock draft (no autopicking) and this fool takes kershaw first overall.

      I was able to pull Jones, Votto, Puig, Segura, Zimmerman rds 1 – 5 in this one. absolutely no help to me in trying to determine who will be there for my picks. but based on the recent yahoo ADPs and mine, ahem Grey’s rankings, I should be able to pick and choose the right players while others are squabbling over posey and the likes….

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Jay: I agree

        • Crapshoot Kershaw says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz: yr pitching for h2H league looks very solid. assuming 12 teamer.

  30. costaricanchata says:
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    even though i’m not a big fan of rizzo ,
    i think this is a great team ,
    not-withstanding your saves issue .
    your SP , which seems especially strong ,
    might help you acquire the closers that you need .

    • Ralph Lifshitz

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      @costaricanchata: Thanks, you’re typically one of the better commentators so I appreciate your kinds words….

  31. Steve d says:
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    SAGNOF! Church.

  32. Q says:
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    Anyone having trouble seeing the top 400 rankings? I can see the post, but the chart with all the names, info, prices, etc. is not showing up. Also tried to peek at the 2014 preseason player rater…same thing, although I thought it might not be up yet.

  33. papajeansegura says:
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    how did he ever hit 32 in the first place wtf? has there ever been anyone else to do something like that? he never had more than 9 in any of his other 6 seasons…

  34. Jason says:
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    WHIP is not considered in my league, how differently would you rank the pitchers now?

    Thanks,

    Jason

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jason: What’s it? 4×4?

      • Jason says:
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        It’s a 5 x 4, I know its a little odd.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Pitchers are dropped down a notch, not as important…

  35. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Is this national hate week? Weird week to have during Black History Month. At least you’ve been tasteful and chosen two white guys for it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky: Hehe

  36. Jason says:
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    Brilliant work as always Grey – thanks for all you do.

    I currently have a keeper conundrum in a league that’s turning into a long term dynasty this season. We can only keep 4 players this year, then the entire roster next season and beyond. The categories are:

    Hitting: Runs, Hits, HR, RBI, SB, K’s, Avg., OPS

    Pitching: Wins, Saves, Holds, BB’s, K’s, ERA, WHIP, QS

    Trying to choose my 4 (no restrictions) from:

    Braun
    Wright
    Desmond
    Craig
    Heyward
    Kinsler
    Cobb
    Holland

    Thanks so much for your advice.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Braun, Wright, Desmond, Craig

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey:

        Much appreciated – I’ve been teetering on Heyward/Craig due to Craig’s age, but now I’m tottering due to Grey’s sage.

        • Grey

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          Ha

  37. kchorton2 says:
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    This might be a stupid question but are OBP/OPS rankings up? I cannot find them.

  38. Greyismyhero says:
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    Hey Grey, just to clarify…..one of my leagues is a 6×6 OPS so I should draft using the 6×6 steamer projections instead of your rankings right? I’m asking because in steamer it has Puig at #5 overall which differs if I use your rankings. Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Steamer loves Puig… I’d use a combo of both… When in doubt, I’d look at mine, but would keep Steamer handy for their OPS…

  39. Jon says:
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    Is the online War Room down for anyone else? I am getting a message that says the page doesn’t exist.

      • Jon says:
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        @Grey: yeah, that’s where I’m seeing the error message. Weird. I’ll try clearing browser history/cookies, etc.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You have cookies?

  40. papasmurf says:
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    What’s Gardner’s role now? If I was running the Yankz would rather have Gardner than Ells.

    But then I ain’t Cashman, so what do I know.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would too… But I think Gardner’s batting 8th or 9th as of right now…

  41. Kobayashi Maru says:
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    Hopefully this makes sense, but I’m trying to line up a big power hitter in my keeper league. It’s a 12 team 6×6 (with OBP and IP) and I’m trying to move:

    Shelby Miller $2 and Lucroy $1 for Adrian Beltre $33 (standard $260 budget) thoughts?

    I have Rosario who I plan on using as my catcher for $6.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Beltre

  42. Suppa says:
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    Standard head to head

    Keepers are:

    Hanley
    Tulo
    Trumbo
    Trout
    Edwin
    Posey
    Hamilton

    Have the 10th pick in snake draft. Do are automatically go pitcher, pitcher with my first 2 picks?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends on league size, but definitely at least one pitcher…

      • Suppa says:
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        10 man!
        Thanks for the response. Was thinking I had to go with 2 pitchers. Now you got me thinking! !

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          One pitcher is fine…

  43. J-FOH says:
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    Profar shut down a week with shoulder tendinitis. They say it’s from lifting weights in the off season, sounds like BS to me. Is this a road of frequent absence he’s getting on for this year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, not a good sign at all, but it is still early

  44. LurveGuru says:
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    Dear Grey and fellow fantasy baseball addicts,

    I need to select 10 (ten) keepers from this list for my 5×5 standard roto keeper league, with a $260 auction cap, and +$4 inflation per year, no limit on years.

    Any advice would be appreciated on who I should keep would be appreciated.

    Cargo $34
    Andrus $23
    Latos $20
    Homer Bailey $19
    MadBum $17
    Kipnis $13
    Gordon $9
    Lawrie $9
    Rizzo $9
    Avisail $5
    Shelby $5
    Wheeler $5

    For me, MadBum, Cargo, and Kipnis are sure things

    So who are my final 7 keepers?

    Thanks

    • LurveGuru says:
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      @LurveGuru: Follow up: 14 team league, so fairly deep league

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Avisail, Lawrie

  45. LurveGuru says:
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    Follow up: it’s a 14 team league, so fairly deep league.

  46. Andrew W says:
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    In an Auction Keeper league when last year players went for:
    Longoria – $37
    Votto – $38
    Billy Butler – $25
    Zobrist $24

    What price range would you draft Hosmer in this year? What would you pay for Votto this year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends how badly you need him…Around $25 maybe

  47. OaktownSteve says:
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    Ellsbury NFBC ADP is 12. Fielders is 15. I’m kind of interested in pairing the two if I got stuck on the turn in a 12 teamer. They both have the potential to outperform that draft slot and in Fielder you have a guy who plays 162 so you can kind of stomach Ells as the upside pick. He finished as the 23rd rated player on the Razz rater last year I think is what I saw. Not hard to think of him as a 2nd rounder but I think with him it’s all about the pairing.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Forgot to look at what he did last year… Goes to show you what you can expect from a great season from him…

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @OaktownSteve: Little sneak preview of some FCL draft strategy here perhaps?

      If Jack can ever get the draft sorted, that is…

      • Prez!! says:
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        @SteveNZ: march 8th steve!!

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @Prez!!: Heh, yup – looks that way.

          • Kid A says:
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            @SteveNZ: Considering his lack of opposable thumbs, Jackson does a pretty good job with all of life’s little tasks.

  48. FMFBL says:
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    Thanks Grey, great stuff!
    Keeper league, keep 4 in the round forever –
    Harper -1
    Upton -2
    Bruce -3
    Altuve -6
    Machado -10
    Crush – 14
    JoFer -22

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Jo-Fer, Crush, Machado, Harper

  49. Nimrod says:
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    With a 6×5 roto, ops added but pitching cats are wins, and net wins, k’s saves and era. I’ve been doing mocks using your player rankings and focusing on strikout pitchers. really hate drafting relievers but am starting to wonder if I should have 3 closers. It’s 10 pitchers 15 batters and set your squad for the week. ist time doing this set-up laying some serious cash down also.

    • Grey

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      Depends on league depth

      • Nimrod says:
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        @Grey: 12 teamer. serius players

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          2 closers is plenty

  50. Nimrod says:
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    Sorry no question. Should I stay the coarse on my pitching staff? Been picking 4 to 5 hitters first and what about relievers how many.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How many teams?

      • Nimrod says:
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        @Grey: 12

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          2 closers is plenty

          • Nimrod says:
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            @Grey: Thanks, Grey. This site helps me get thru this hard winter. Love it, can’t wait each day to read everything all blogs ect. I’m playing in one RCL. Will commish after a year of getting my feet wet.

            • Grey

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              No problem

        • Nimrod says:
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          @Nimrod: Just saying as you did you can’t really predict pitching wins. Look at Scherzer, Moore, Corbin, Hamels Gio a couple years ago. So really all I have is K’s saves and ERA. I know a solid team like Detroit or St.Louis someone has to get the 90 wins but hard to predict.

  51. TysonFrozenChicken says:
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    I won my 16-team league last year (thanks to you but I’ll hold the money), and my keepers going into this year are:

    Goldy
    Ian Kinsler
    Ham Ram
    Justin Upton
    F-Her

    Am I better off taking that into the new season — lots of multi-cat producers, but also at least three guys there who I think have more name value than actual value — or looking for a deal sort of like this:

    Trade a combination of Kinsler/Han Ram/Upton for a top-tier outfielder, which would allow me to also keep Wil Myers instead of releasing him into the draft?

    That would potentially leave me with Goldy, three outfielders (Upton/Myers/trade target) and Felix as keepers rather than the all-around goodness I have now, but also probably guys I’m more comfortable with lasting all year, and Upton wouldn’t have to be my best OF.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends what you’re getting as a top tier OF…

      • TysonFrozenChicken says:
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        @Grey: Someone in your top 9, let’s say. I assume Trout is impossible, but Adam Jones, CarGo, Harper, Puig. I’m not in love with Joey Bats, Braun or Bruce for what I would give. Puig also scares me a little, but you don’t seem too concerned about his average staying up.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d do it for Jones, CarGo or Harper

          • TysonFrozenChicken says:
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            @Grey: Good to know! Thanks. Now I’m just going to click your ads for a while.

  52. Big League Wood says:
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    Hey Grey.
    Enjoying the overated dudes analysis. Helps to know who not to want…

    In a RCL type settings league with similar bench, would you look to use an MR all season in a 200 start league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

      • Big League Wood says:
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        @Grey: go

        Gotcha. Lots of those guys are dominate these days.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  53. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    1st , good luck with your draft today .

    2ndly :
    jeez , i wish my superior cut and paste skillz could make this easier ,
    but my brain keeps getting in the way .

    for a thoroughly enjoyable 12 minutes of Vin Scully’s
    entire 2008 commencement speech @ pepperdine university *,
    go here : http://player.fm/featured/baseball
    scroll down to … “2014 100th podcast” .
    skip to the 10 minute 40 second mark
    sit back and be entertained for 12 minutes .

    * even if you were there , you’re gonna like this .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks… Will listen later…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Very cool… Should’ve had a picture of Mantle icing his knee with a whiskey on the rocks…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Did you see the last page – with thoughts from Kubek on each of the guys?

        I know those guys were pretty worldy and misbehaved as much as anybody, but those images really give the impression that it was a simpler, more innocent time.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You mean compared to Kemp standing on a table at a nightclub pouring champagne over himself? Yeah, saw the last page…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, when Kubek said they had to help him out of a cab, I’m sure it wasn’t always because of his sore knees…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha!

  54. Jay says:
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    Grey – how much do you concur with Jaywongs Keeper rankings? any glaring discrepancies for you?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s an impossible task… Could do another 100 keeper rankings every day for the next 3 years… They’re a good jumping off point…

  55. Spammer Jay says:
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    Grey, are we steering clear of Iwakuma? or try to draft him in the new tier?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s now in the Hamels tier with guys to ignore…

  56. Fried Fish Fan says:
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    Just found out I got the second overall pick this year, should I be 1 million percent locked into Miggy? Just the smallest ounce of me is eyeing goldschmidt….. Fuck I’m greedy

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, yeah

  57. Jay says:
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    Damn – Yahoo’s Salfino keeps hyping Salazar. By the time I draft everyone is going to be targeting him.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Dah

    • bossmanjunior says:
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      @Jay:

      They already bumped him up about 25 spots since their default rankings came out.

  58. JiggyNits says:
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    5×5 ROTO NL only with BB instead of R. 10 team keeper league, 2 catcher 5 OF.

    guy just offered me this in keeper league and I think Im crazy not to take.

    His Carlos Gomez (11) for my Mike Minor (12) and Daniel Murphy (8).

    Pull the trigger?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds good for you

  59. Keyser Soze says:
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    Sup Grey! Got a keeper question for ya. I can keep up to five and am pretty confident that I want Desmond, Machado, Pence and Jansen. I’m stumped on the last keeper though. Already keeping a 3B and RP so not sure about Robertson or Longo… and league counts K/BB so Moore is less valuable. Who would you go with?

    I. Desmond (7)
    M. Machado (10)
    H. Pence (11)
    K. Jansen (13)

    E. Longoria (2)
    M. Moore (9)
    D. Robertson (15)
    D. Fowler (19)

    League is 10 team roto

    • Sam Leaf says:
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      @Keyser Soze: I would only keep the 4 you have. The others aren’t there for the value.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have an CI? Can go with Longoria… Between him and Robertson…

  60. Sam Leaf says:
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    In an Auction Keeper League, I have to choose from Leonys Martin, Wilin Rosario, Eric Hosmer, Anthony Rizzo. I have to add $1, $3, $7 and $10 to the total value.

    Currently I have
    Martin – $1
    Rosario – $2
    Hosmer – $17
    Rizzo – $8

    Which ones would you keep? And which keeper values would assign them? Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not sure what you mean

      • Sam Leaf says:
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        @Grey:
        Ha, might be too difficult to explain here.

        Would you rather have Rizzo at $15 or Hosmer at $24?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Rizzo

          • Sam Leaf says:
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            @Grey:

            Follow up Question

            Rizzo at $15, Leonys Martin at $2, or Rosario at $6?

            • Sam Leaf says:
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              @Sam Leaf: I appreciate the replys as well! This website is my secret weapon in my fantasy leagues.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Rosario, since the others won’t go for much more than where they’re at…

  61. SteveNZ says:
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    PSA – if you subscribed to MLB.tv at any stage last year, you’re subscription will automatically roll over tomorrow and you’ll be charged.

    If you don’t want that to happen, get thee to your mlb.com account and unsubscribe…

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @SteveNZ: Ha! isn’t that a good thing?

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @frankgrimes: Grimey! In my timezone, I don’t really use it enough to justify the cost for an entire season (something the Secretary of the Treasury in my house might have a strong opinion on!).

        I’ll probably wait til the drop the price at mid season and get it again, which is what I did last year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Geez, people annoyed at me for having the newsletter thing auto-checked when there’s stuff like that going on… Thanks for the heads up!

      • frankgrimes says:
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        @Grey: I could never be annoyed at you
        I’m glad MLB dos this saves me the trouble…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I don’t mind either, but it’s a little underhanded…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: I would have completely missed it, but former Razzballer Albert Lang retweeted something into my timeline about it…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah…

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @SteveNZ:

          since it is one of my few vices , i opt for the full year plan .
          basic plan , without devices and apps costs 120 $/year ,
          but includes spring training games .

          bring it on !

  62. coleseph@gmail.com says:
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    Hey Grey, I mocked a 15 teamer yesterday and ended with a pitching staff of Teheran, Gray, Masterson, Salazar, Griffin, and Archer. Does Masterson seem like a stable option, or is this rotation just crazy risky?

    • Grey

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      A tad risky, but I don’t mind it… Masterson is fine there… Gray, Salazar and Archer are the risky ones…

      • Cole says:
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        @Grey: oh yeah, I meant does Masterson make up for it. He’s going 200+ in the nfbc adp, solid value…

  63. bossmanjunior says:
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    Grey…need your help

    So my 10 team big money league finally agreed to expand the league to 12 teams and im really happy about that. I’ve gotten really tired of this 10 team bullshit despite the fact I’ve won the league the past two years.

    However, here is the issue. Ever since I went crazy with streaming two years ago and won the league, they have tried to place limits on the weekly transactions. Rather than impose an actual limit, last year we used the “in good faith” system and tried to keep it down to 3-4 moves per week.

    Apparently that wasn’t good enough, so the commissioner is trying to implement a pay per move budget system where adding a FA is $2 before the trade dealine and $5 after. I have no problem with this concept except he wants to use real money. Basically each of us would send him 100-200 dollars for him to deduct the money from, with all remaining funds being returned. The other suggested option is a blind daily bidding on FA out of a real monetary budget. Have you heard of this before? Honestly it seems nuts to use real money, as I don’t see the point. I still haven’t received an answer as to where this money goes, I assume into the pot. Any suggestion on how to handle this and propose a contrary argument? Thanks man.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’ve played in leagues where there is a transaction fee… Should go into the pot… Just win the league and get the money back…

      • bossmanjunior says:
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        @Grey:

        Was it a real monetary transaction charge or deducted from a predetermined budget with no real financial ties?

  64. Kid A says:
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    Just found a TV and popped the Olympics on. I may be a little drunk, and my spanish may not be totally perfect, but I swear to Christ the announcers just said, “Israel now stands a good chance of winning the Giant Shalom.”

    Good night and good luck…

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Kid A: Mazel Tov!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA!

  65. Mikeup says:
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    “Let alone”

    Always used wrong. Start with the underestimation. “He won’t hit TWENTY homeruns, let alone [or ‘never mind’ or ‘forget’] thirty. Pffft…”.

    And so your disdain will contain that much more venom and your enemies will shrink before you.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  66. Brent says:
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    16 team auction keeper league, I can keep 4 for the next two years at their current prices: Freeman $22, Asche $1, Segura $13, Werth $13, Yelich $1, Shelby Miller $7, Archer $1 and Cingrani $1. Which 4 should I go with?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura, Freeman, Yelich, Cingrani

      EDITED

      • Brent says:
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        does the SO/9 put Cingrani over the top versus Miller and Archer?

  67. J-FOH says:
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    How did your AL only go?

  68. JD says:
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    Grey – looking for some keeper help. I can keep 3 peeps from the list below at the value listed (12 team, 5×5 roto)

    Adam Jones – $35
    Billy Hamilton – $1
    Prince Fielder – $47
    Jay Bruce – $35
    Shin-Soo Choo – $19
    Max Scherzer – $18

    I’m thinking Jones, Bruce and Scherzer. But tempted by Billy at $1. In my league I could probably get Bruce on the open market for $40. Thoughts?

    • JD says:
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      @JD: Scherzer is actually $16, if that makes a difference.

  69. costaricanchata says:
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    really ??

    ” Peavy has dealt with blisters the past couple of seasons and it appears to have already jumped up and bit him this spring. Blisters are caused by an unnatural rubbing of the skin or as a symptom of herpes. Peavy should resume his normal schedule by the end of the week.”
    Analyst: Jeff Mans

  70. Alex says:
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    I Like where you have him.

    If you had these P in dynasty

    Romo
    Koji
    Frieri
    Cody Allen
    Quintana
    Latos
    Cliff Lee
    Liriano
    Iwakuma
    Fister
    Burnett
    Lynn

    Would you trade Cody Allen for Niese?

    Thanks!

  71. PaulieD says:
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    Keeper question time. 14 teams, points-based league. I can get Goldy for a late round pick (pick TBD) and his keeper value is as a 2nd rounder. I currently have extra picks in rounds 1, 3, 8, 11 and 17 so extra picks aren’t a problem (last year was my first experience with tanking).

    I can keep 5 players. My potential keepers are Miggy (1st rounder), Bumgarner(11),Segura(14), Altuve(21) and then either Evereth Cabrera(20), Cashner(25) or Middlebrooks(26).

    So I guess it boils down to whether Goldschmidt as a 2nd round keeper over any of the other potential keepers is worth trading away a later round pick. I think yes, but would love to hear from minds greater than mine.

    Thanks in advance for any replies…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Take Goldy

      • PaulieD says:
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        Short, sweet and confirms my thoughts. The perfect answer. Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem…

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