Comments on: Jacob Turner and Jordan Danks, Scouting the Unknown http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown Fantasy Baseball Advice Tue, 21 May 2013 22:23:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Allen http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-1183656 Allen Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:14:13 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-1183656 @Michael Bourne, this is perfect example of a small sample-size. I see Brantley taking another step foward, but do not see enough speed or ct% to be Ellsbury.

]]> By: Stephen http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-575672 Stephen Thu, 26 May 2011 17:16:20 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-575672 @Michael Bourne: @YourMomsBoyfriend: @ It’llonlyhurtforasecond: It’llonlyhurtforasecond is correct. Skills are developed tools.

]]> By: YourMomsBoyfriend http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-575478 YourMomsBoyfriend Thu, 26 May 2011 14:46:51 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-575478 nevermind. that made NO sense.

]]> By: YourMomsBoyfriend http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-575475 YourMomsBoyfriend Thu, 26 May 2011 14:46:31 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-575475 But how do “skills” translate into “tools”, when tools are the natural abilities and skills are tools translated?

]]> By: Michael Bourne http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-575202 Michael Bourne Thu, 26 May 2011 10:36:48 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-575202 @It’llonlyhurtforasecond:
The way stephen writes it suggests he has ability that isn’t producing usable results (a tool). If I told you I had skill, it would imply I have natural ability. I think either way works to get the point across.

]]> By: It'llonlyhurtforasecond http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574891 It'llonlyhurtforasecond Thu, 26 May 2011 06:12:45 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574891 with all due respect, the line:

“His skills have yet to develop into tools…”

should read:

“His tools have yet to develop into skills…”

]]> By: Giant JJ http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574463 Giant JJ Thu, 26 May 2011 01:01:14 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574463 I really appreciate this site protecting me from myself. Thanks guys!

]]> By: BlinkULDHC http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574428 BlinkULDHC Thu, 26 May 2011 00:31:56 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574428 @Michael Bourne:

Yeah, I never said about Cleveland/BoSox lineup comparisons (your analysis should go w/o saying). All I said was that their respective individual outputs are similar at this point in the season (almost 1/3), and the main point of my post was that Brantley is underrated.

When you consider the overwhelming love for Ellsbury this season — and then you take a peek at Brantley’s #’s — he’s incredibly underrated. I see Brantley available in a good portion of leagues, and conversely I’ve been offered McCutchen for Ellsbury, Pence for Ellsbury straight up. Underrated.

No, I don’t think Cleveland will keep pace but I do see them finishing above AL-average. Realize that Brantley is still coming into his own at the #1 spot; he’s got 28 starts there, 14 in the in 6th/7th spots early in the season.

Not that it matters, but if you look at oWAR, Brantley has arguably been better offensively this far (and his .308 BABIP could improve, IMHO) — though that goes to prove the point that BoSox’s offense is better and is crucial to Ellsbury’s value (since if you switched their teams, Brantley’s BOS numbers would be better than Ellsbury’s CLE numbers).

]]> By: Stephen http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574404 Stephen Thu, 26 May 2011 00:11:07 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574404 @Giant JJ: @Brett: I agree with Brett, I should clarify. I think it’s crazy to contemplate that move only because Giambi has been hot.

@michael bourne: If that is because of Verlander, than the rotation number is a 2 or 3. However, the talent is still a number one or two ceiling

@BlinkULDHC: Concur with Michael Bourne.

]]> By: Michael Bourne http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574336 Michael Bourne Wed, 25 May 2011 23:25:40 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574336 @BlinkULDHC: One is the lead off for the Red Sox and the other leads off for the Tribe. If you think Cleveland keeps going all year then sure. But if you think Dustin Pedroia, Adrian Gonzalez, and Kevin Youkilis are better than Cabrera, Choo, and LaPorta; I don’t think they will have quite the same line. Maybe an Ellsbury lite. Nice comparison and a to be aware of though.

]]> By: BlinkULDHC http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574251 BlinkULDHC Wed, 25 May 2011 22:37:54 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574251 How underrated is Michael Brantley? He looks like this year’s 2010 Angel Pagan — quietly on pace to be a top 20-25 OF on the Player Rater (whatever that is), and his output is similar to Ellsbury.

Michael Brantley: .286, 26 runs, 4 HRs, 23 RBI, 7 SB

Jacoby Ellsbury: .286, 29 runs, 4 HRs, 22 RBI, 16 SB

Obviously the big difference is SBs — so far. Once he gets more comfortable, he should get more SBs (SB attempts in a 35.5% ratio of MiLB games). IF he upped his SB pace to 40 SBs, he’s really not that far off Ellsbury.

]]> By: michael bourne http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574242 michael bourne Wed, 25 May 2011 22:31:03 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574242 Turner can only project to be a sp 2 or 3 at best unless the tigers trade him for HanRam or another top weapon. Cust Kayin’

]]> By: brett http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-574230 brett Wed, 25 May 2011 22:26:05 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-574230 @Giant JJ: Don’t do it. Let Minor make a few starts and trade him when he builds some value.

Thanks for the writeup. I’m geeked about Turner. Here’s hoping the Tigers don’t trade him for a third base rental or something.

]]> By: Stephen http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-573975 Stephen Wed, 25 May 2011 19:43:14 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-573975 @Giant JJ: Only because Giambi has been hot.

]]> By: Giant JJ http://razzball.com/jacob-turner-and-jordan-danks-scouting-the-unknown/#comment-573953 Giant JJ Wed, 25 May 2011 19:24:35 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=19557#comment-573953 Is it crazy that I want to trade Minor for Giambi in a 20 team league?. My current CI is Nady who only plays against lefties. And I am hurting in power cats.

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