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Many people don’t know this, but one of the great scenes in modern cinema was nearly about fantasy baseball but was turned on its head due to a misunderstanding.  Darren Aronofsky, being Polish and thus having things assbackwards, originally intended Jennifer Connelly in Requiem for a Dream to be doing a scene about head-to-head fantasy baseball strategy instead of what turned out to be ass-to-ass.  Sometimes it takes a true auteur to recognize happy accidents and go with them.  “So, I said to Darren, you want me to debate the merits of taking a pitcher early while I’m connected to this other girl by a dildo?  And he just gave me a blank stare.”  That’s a line from Jennifer on the DVD commentary.  Head-to-Head, or H2H, doesn’t change a lot to our 2014 fantasy baseball rankings.  There are 300 billion suns in the Milky Way galaxy.  There are 100s of billions of galaxies in the universe.  There are at least 256,000 planets exactly like Earth.  Time is a flat circle, says Rust Cohle.  Yet, there’s only one Miggy Cabrera.  (Though Ciggy Mabrera on Planet Yurick is pretty good too.  Not a first rounder though.)  H2H doesn’t change that.  The strategy for playing in the middle of the season in H2H leagues changes.  You aren’t hoping Billy Butler hits 25 homers by October, but whether or not he’ll hit a homer on Sunday or if you should sit him to try and win steals.  It’s all about the match-ups, y’all!  So you want to build a team that can match up well with any other team.  (FYI, I’ve gone over this stuff before, but some of you might need a pine tree refresher hung from your rear view.)  Anyway, let’s look at some H2H fantasy baseball draft strategy:

1. Avoid guys that are prone to nagging injuries.

You put Carlos Gonzalez on an H2H team and you wanna strangle someone.  Hopefully, not the guy sitting behind you wearing biker shorts and eating an apple.  Go ahead, look behind you.  Yeah, that’s me.  What’s up?  I let myself in.  Since H2H is played on a week-to-week basis, you can’t afford to take many goose eggs as a player nurses his hammy day-to-day.  BTW, I once nursed a hammy and everyone kept asking me why I was breastfeeding a pig.

2. Don’t punt anything, but don’t buy steal-only guys.

What’s Billy Hamilton or Michael Bourn et al going to get you?  3 steals per week?  They’re not going to win you steals.  So you’re going to get 3 steals from Hamilton one week, your opponent is going to get 5 steals from his whole team and you’re going to lose steals anyway.  Or you’re not going to get anything from the aforementioned et al’s then you’re going to lose that week too.  You just lost two weeks and the season hasn’t even started yet.  See what those steal-only guys get you?  That doesn’t mean to punt these categories.  It means draft a balanced team.  Guys that will get you speed and power.  Then if the weekend rolls around and you’re within breathing distance of winning speed, you pick up some steals off waivers to try and win it — hello, Jarrod Dyson.  If someone is going against you and you punt steals, then you’re giving them one category.  Are they giving you categories?  No offense, you seem like a good person, but I wouldn’t give you any categories.  There will be weeks when you’ll be out of the running for steals (pun point!), then you can make the decision to punt at that point (punt point!).

3. Starters, Starters, Starters…

If you can’t beat them with quality, you beat them with quantity.  Chances are you should be able to win Ks and Wins every week with this drafting strategy.  Then if you can win Saves, you’re only dealing with WHIP and ERA.  Figure at least once in a while your opponent is going to lose ERA or WHIP on their own doing.  Figure a few times you’ll win ERA and WHIP on your own doing.  In roto, I say take a late round flyer on possible saves or a starter, with H2H, I say always take a starter.  Then another starter, then another.  Take them until you can’t take anymore.  Be robust in your starters.  This also means to wait even longer for starters.  Pretty self-explanatory, but for those who like self-explanatory things explained.  You don’t need a top starter when you’re throwing lots of junk out there anyway.  I’m a big fan of streaming in H2H.  If streaming isn’t an option due to it being a weekly league, then extra starters are even more important so you can go with match-ups for the week.

4. The Waivers are Your Oysters.

Don’t like Michael Brantley’s match-ups this week?  Then you’re speaking a language I don’t understand, he’s great every week.  But, okay, say he’s slumping and going into Safeco, then you grab a different bat with better match-ups.  I take this approach in roto too with the last man on my team, but in H2H it’s even more pronounced.  Besides some of your top hitters and pitchers, everyone’s fluid.  To mix metaphors with nonsense, the waiver wire is your own personal Idaho filled with potatoes and you’re an Irishman.

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  1. frankgrimes says:
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    my enemy would say mmm…Jennifer Connelly

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @frankgrimes: I didn’t know we were enemies, Grimey. Thought we were more on Frenemy turf.

      • frankgrimes says:
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        @Sky: being frenemies is a dream come true stop by my place we can vape and discuss greys beard. I live in a single room above a bowling alley, and below another bowling alley.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          HA…do you think he’s rocking a bit of a salt and pepper one at this point?

        • Swagger Jackers says:
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          @frankgrimes: Grimey!

  2. SoSayethI says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Great advice for H2H. I’m in a 14 team H2H keeper and last year I tried to punt on third base so I could overpay a bit for Starlin Castro. Needless to say my season ended in tears.

    Anyways my league is trying to damper streaming this year by changing K to K/9, making the pitching categories IP, W, SV, ERA, WHIP, K/9. I’m thinking this makes closers a bit more valuable… I was thinking about going after 2 or 3 great closers on draft day and streaming junk for my IP category. I’ve never paid for saves before and normally pick an RP off the scrap heap, so this feels a bit… dirty.

    So am I crazy, or Crazy like a fox?

    • natty lite says:
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      @SoSayethI: You’re not crazy. Make it four or five. Add a few vulture RPs for the Ws, and you’with only be punting IP when you have to. I’ve used this strategy in h2h past two years with k/9, and took first in both leagues. It does feel dirty, but at the end of the day, it’s one of the best pitching options for this format. Just make sure you lock down enough hitting categories as well which should be easy since you can do it while others are scrambling for starters.

      • SoSayethI says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks guys, this is a big help. I think I’ll keep Holland (12th) and Perkins (15th) over Iwakuma (16th) and/or Wheeler (also a 16th round keeper cost).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  3. bossmanjunior says:
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    Ok so my H2H league has a few quirks.

    – 12 team h2h C/1B/2B/3B/SS/3OF/UTL
    – moves are limited, $ 100 yearly budget ($1 a move through July 31st, $3 after)
    – 5 BN spots, so most guys carry 2 bench bats, 7-8 starters and 3-4 relievers

    Here is an example mock:

    C Ramos
    1B Pujols
    2B Gyorko
    3B Encarnacion
    SS Segura
    OF Jones
    OF Myers
    OF Heyward
    UTL Rizzo
    BN Miller
    BN K. Davis

    SP Bailey
    SP Cobb
    RP Balfour
    RP Jones
    P Salazar
    P Fister
    P Gray
    P Masterson
    BN Kluber
    BN Smyly
    BN Melancon

    Any particular draft strategy for a league like this? According to the WAR Room, I generally make par on everything but steals (60% with this team). But it seems like a balanced attack with a bunch of guys who can steal a few bases. I haven’t been taking any bench bats until the last 4 rounds or so (mainly trying to target Miller then taking best OF bat). Trying to get two decent closers with a job and one very good reliever who gives me ratios and possibly saves in the future. Usually start really focusing on starters in the 7th (6th at the earliest) through 10th and then sprinkle in starters throughout the draft. Thanks for the insight.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Yeah, gotta take bench bats there, and the team doesn’t look bad, it is a fairly shallow league though… Especially on offense…

      • bossmanjunior says:
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        @Grey:

        Yeah this is the league I have been pushing for adding a CI/MI/5OF format for a few years to no avail. Its an old fraternity league in its 9th year so most guys like the complacency. All my other leagues are standard though.

        Any suggestions on how to turn my ideal team from “not bad” to very good?

        Thank you sir!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Your team will be competitive, too many factors in a shallow H2H league to say it’s very good… It should be, but you’ll need to make sure you have hot hands hitting or play against guys that won’t be as active…

          • jonas says:
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            @Grey: and just be waiting to pounce on this year’s Farquhar or whoever? Your offense is sick and I can see me picking a team like this and then being like, oh shit all I got is Grant Balfour.

  4. Swfcdan says:
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    5. Avoid streaky hitters (not streakers)?

    Guys like Bruce etc who go from the sublime to the ridiculous from week to week. Sure NZ Steve would agree!

    • Fungazi says:
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      @Swfcdan: I agree with that one, until you face the guy with Jay Bruce in the first week of playoffs.

      • c0wfunk says:
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        @Fungazi: yeah streaky guys sometimes are nice to have when they help you dominate a week. Last year Alfonso soriano proved to be my undoing when he went off for a week or two

    • c0wfunk says:
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      @Swfcdan: also guys like Zimmerman who suddenly wake up in September and hit all their hr for the year are beyond worthless and will cause suicidal tendencies.

      • natty lite says:
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        @c0wfunk: Todd Frazier, last year…every time I decided I should drop him in h2h, he hits 3 homers in two days. Brutal. Unless you’re looking for a pet ulcer.

        • c0wfunk says:
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          @natty lite: Yeah I dropped him relatively early on because he drove me nuts. 3rd base was so frustrating last year.

          • Swfcdan says:
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            @c0wfunk: Nice discussion guys, but the downside is I don’t even get a response from Grey! Or was it one of those comments that doesn’t deserve a Grey response?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Looked like you were just discussing things…

              • Swfcdan says:
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                @Grey: They were discussing things. I think that should become rule no5 for H2H leagues. We all shouted expletives over how frustrating Jay Bruce was in H2H leagues last year!

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @Swfcdan: Lol. I did own Bruce once in H2H. Diabolical. Sheffield Wednesday?

  5. darkness says:
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    A big fan of True Detective? I can’t believe there is only 2 episodes left.

    • Cram It says:
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      @darkness: Who’s NOT a fan of that show?

      • Jay_0321 says:
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        @Grey: Couldnt find the like button anywhere….that’s veeeird!

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: I’ve read that before. I’m not a fan of “easter eggs” unless there’s some depth to it, which there usually isn’t. “Oooh the birds are forming a swirl in the sky like the marking on LeDoux’s back”. Ok, annnnd…..? This Yellow King in the show better be something solid other than an empty running literary reference.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Seems like it’s gonna be that Tuttle character, but I’m not sure the payoff is going to be that dramatic… I think it’s more about the journey with this show…

          • Cram It says:
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            @Grey: Agreed. I don’t think there’s some profound reveal. But Tuttle is dead isn’t he? And the murders are still happening present day….certainly he has to be involved somehow, I think the question is just how much? Ooooooh

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Is Tuttle dead? I must’ve missed that… Seems too easy that it’s just Rust…

              • Cram It says:
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                @Grey: I did too until I read about it! I liked all the flashbacking and how the story is told from different time periods, but now that shizz is just confusing.

                Rust is doing way too much independent detective work. It wouldn’t be believable if he’s the guy.

                • Grey

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                  Yeah, agreed… If he’s the guy it’ll ring false… Prolly the most satisfying ending will be it’s not him, but they implicate him anyway… I think a downer ending is where they’re headed…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t even have time to read that post let alone all of those books…

  6. c0wfunk says:
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    I’ve gotten to the semis 3 years in a row in my h2h and each time something ridiculous happened to my team at that exact moment. Last year mike trout missed 5 games. Guess when it happened? Of course there is no way to anticipate that but I’ve been looking for a place I can find month by month splits and haven’t yet found one. I guess it may help to look at 1st / 2nd half splits.

    So drafting and in season I always finish top 3 but playoff luck has run out. Any thoughts on how to better prepare for that now or should I work on my manifestation skills and my vision board?

    • AJA says:
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      @c0wfunk: yahoo player pages have month by month splits.

      • c0wfunk says:
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        @AJA: thanks will take a look. Yahoo doesn’t tend to be on my list of resources :)

        • John says:
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          @c0wfunk:

          Absolute best site for splits for multiple players and multiple time frames, just check it out. http://baseballmonster.com/PlayerRankings.aspx

          Im finding myself in your position as well, getting to semi’sand learning that dropping a quality player for a hot bat and finding few hot pitchers is really key at the end of the year. Cant be afraid to make changes.

          • c0wfunk says:
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            @John: Awesome thanks. And to think I was about to actually be productive today. So much for that. Yeah agreed, gotta be merciless at the end there, if a guy isn’t hot, trade in for one that is, regardless of pedigree and especially with pitchers. Win or go home, all hands on deck!

    • Dave says:
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      @c0wfunk:

      Trout’s missed games last year:

      Jun 30th
      Aug 19th, 20th, 21st
      Sep 25th

      Unless you held your playoffs at the end of August, you may want to check your memory

      • c0wfunk says:
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        @Dave: we had a multi round playoff and each round was 2 weeks, leaving off the last week of the season. The semis were Aug 12 – 25. So those 3 games in August is what I’m remembering. Trout didn’t cost me the round, but it was a kick in the gut coming down the stretch of week 2. Marte only played 5 games, Stanton 9, and my relievers had all just crapped the bed. Thanks for helping me relive that in full detail.

        • c0wfunk says:
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          @c0wfunk: Yeah I know.. I keep telling myself if I can just find those guys who are hot for exactly those 2 weeks every year I’ll be a shoe-in .. but that’s not really how it works.

          • c0wfunk says:
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            @c0wfunk: oops this was a reply to furious below

    • Furious says:
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      @c0wfunk: H2H Playoffs are a crapshoot, just like the real playoffs! Keep building those top 3 teams and one of these years your luck will turn.

    • Sky

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      @c0wfunk: I’ve won my keeper H2H twice now. Once as a 6th seed (roto had the best numbers all year despite getting a 1 in saves) and another time as a 3 or 4. Last year had the top team. Then Harvey went down along with Cobb, Braun & Cruz got caught for PEDs and I ended up 4th. Just play it like you’re playing it and enjoy it. There’s not much you can do about the random whims of H2H style.

      • c0wfunk says:
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        @Sky: for sure.. In the end, this loss **Really** came down to a midseason waiver order. My semi-final opponent was one above me in the order and we both put a claim on Alfonso Soriano. During that playoff round Soriano hit 6 home runs / 21 rbi / 3 sb / .333 avg. Add in a 4HR .341avg spot from Chris Davis and what the hell can you do?

        • Sky

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          Exactly. That’s why I appreciate at least mine is a deep’ish league. Removes a little of the luck factor because you have to fill a fuller roster.

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Sky: Enjoyment? You think I play this game for ENJOYMENT?

  7. PAM says:
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    Love razzball!
    In your draft strategy, what pick would you start drafting relief pitchers?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @PAM: Thanks! Around 120 overall…

  8. Brooklyn says:
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    Hey, Grey:

    Can you do a post like this, but for a daily points league? Most of the stuff I read (and podcasts I hear) give points leagues short shrift (feel free to convert that into a pun of some sort).

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Brooklyn: we should have some points league content coming next week.

  9. JP says:
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    Are there no fantasy Razzball leagues this year?

    • rapscallion13 says:
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      @JP: Go to the top of the page, look for Leagues tab on the right. 2014 RCL signups.

      • JP says:
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        @rapscallion13: I’m not talking about the RCL I’m talking about the Razzball leagues where you try to pick the crappiest teams

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JP: Not sure if we’re gonna do them this year, I’ll ask Rudy and see if there’s any demand…

      • haven’t heard much and we’re stretched thin in terms of commissioners. i think we’re retiring it.

        • JP says:
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          @Rudy Gamble: That’s a damn shame. With Danny Espinosa fighting for a job I don’t know if there’s a consensus #1 anymore

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: @Grey: Have we contacted Nick Punto? I have no doubt he’d run at least 5 of them himself.

        • Swfcdan says:
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          @Sky: Haha would be fun to see some of the winning teams from last year. Always hillarious to bask in their awfulness!

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Ha, to be honest I never really kept up with them. Wait, Razzies…Razzball leagues…wonder if we should contact Adam Sandler to see if he wants to host a few as well.

    • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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      @JP: I was the commissioner of one of those leagues last year. It sucked. I won’t do a straight points league again. Too boring.

  10. YAHOO Pro League
    Thinking i went to heavy with the RP/SP eligible. I’ve completely punted saves. Should i try to package something to pick up a decent true reliever? Or be happy with what i get from upsides like wacha and cingrini.
    5 cat= w,k,sv,era,whip

    SP-Justin Verlander Det – SP
    SP-Félix Hernández Sea – SP
    RP-Michael Wacha StL – SP,RP
    RP-Tony Cingrani Cin – SP,RP
    P-David Price TB – SP
    P-Anibal Sánchez Det – SP
    P-A.J. Burnett Phi – SP
    P-Joe Kelly StL – SP,RP
    BN
    Bartolo Colón NYM – SP
    Drew Smyly Det – RP
    Iván Nova NYY – SP

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Roto Rookie: I wouldn’t trade for a closer in June, let alone February…

  11. Tom says:
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    Grey & Razzball nation,

    Its that time of year again to determine keepers in my league – let me know your opinions on the below:

    Rules: Keep up to 3 years, 5 players per season. Must keep player 2 rounds before previous draft position. FA pickups can be kept in 25th round. Standard 5×5 rules with OBP replacing AVG.

    What I’m planning on going with:
    Goldschmidt – 2nd round pick (Pick 3)
    Jose Fernandez – 25th Round pick
    Kenley Jansen – 23rd Round pick
    Max Scherzer – 5th Round pick (Pick 9)
    Sonny Gray – 25th Round pick

    Other options:
    Cingrani – 25th Round
    Shelby Miller – 15th Round
    Matt Adams – 25th Round

    Is getting Goldy a round later worth giving up one of those 3 guys in the other options late in the draft? At this point I’m leaning yes. I would not be able to keep him next yr as the inflation is 2 rounds.

    Thanks all.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Tom: Goldy is a top 5 pick this year in most ADP. He’s worth keeping in the 2nd round. I’d prefer to give Adams a shot over Jansen for the 30 HR potential, personally.

      • Tom says:
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        Thanks Sky – I actually plan on drafting Adams a bit early to make sure I get him. Figured keeping Kenley in 23rd round was better value and gives me more of a reason to not look for any other closers till very late.

        • Sky

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          I hear ya. But given it’s keepers, I guess I see Adams going earlier in the draft than a closer but of course, your league might treat those two very differently. I’ll tell you I’d pick up Adams before I pick up Jansen in a keeper draft.

  12. MattTruss223 says:
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    Alright, I’ve been scratching my head on this a bit the last week or so and need to have an intelligent conversation about the subject…or just a conversation, it doesn’t need to be that intelligent.

    What’s the benefit of the Angels signing Trout to a 6/yr $150 million right now? He’s 22. He’s got this year (which we know he just agreed to terms to a $1 million deal), then he’s got 3 years of arbitration. So, he’s under team control until the 2018 season when he hits FA. Now, his arbitration years are gonna be expensive, no doubt, but probably less then $25 million a year I would imagine. So, in my mind, aren’t the Angels costing themselves quite a bit of cash from 2015-2017 just to have Trout locked in for the 2018-2020 seasons? Why not wait until 2016 and lock him into a 6 year deal then? Or if you really think he’s gonna be the best player in baseball and the future of the franchise, why not sign him to a 10 yr deal now? Seems kinda silly to overspend for 3 seasons just to have him for 3 seasons, whereupon he’ll be 28 and walk away and probably get a $30-35 million a year contract from someone *Cough* Yankees *Cough*. It’s not like you’re buying any good faith and he’s gonna take a big “hometown” discount in 2021 to come back to LAA. So, why not either save some moola up front and make this offer to him in 2-3 years, or just get it over with and sign him to a 10 year deal right now?

    It could be I suppose that this is all Trout is willing to negotiate, which would be smart on his part, big money now, guaranteed til he’s 28, then he can walk away and get PAID. But, it just seems to me like the Angels are hell-bent on this 6 yr deal and that’s all we’ve heard. Just seems silly. Then again, it is Arte Moreno.

    • Cram It says:
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      @MattTruss223: I heard on the radio this morning someone close to the situation, says this deal is setting him up for either an extension from the Angels worth around $35M or he’ll get that in FA. Either way, it was something about “I’m Mike Trout, and I’m going to get $35M a year.”

      • MattTruss223 says:
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        @Cram It: Right, that’s kinda what I figured. If that’s the case, why wouldn’t LAA just wait til 2016? I mean, usually teams buy out the arbitration years to get a discount (see: Rays & Evan Longoria). Now, normally that player isn’t already the best player in the game, but still. Maybe Trout’s saying if we don’t do something right now, I’m just gonna walk after my arbitration years are up, so that could be. I guess in this case Trout’s got the upper hand in negotiating being an MVP candidate the past 2 seasons and only 22 years old.

        • rapscallion13 says:
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          @MattTruss223: 10 years is a long commitment for a guaranteed contract. Pujols could have been considered the best player in baseball when the Angels signed him for 10 years. Do you think they would give him the same deal today? I’d rather sign Trout for 6 years and revisit it in 4 or 5 if I was afraid he is going to walk away, than be locked in for 10.

          • MattTruss223 says:
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            @rapscallion13: Trout is 22, not 32 like Pujols was, BIG, I MEAN BIG difference there. My point is not the years, but the smarts of it. Why overpay for 3 years now, just so you can have a chance to overpay in 6 more years? Either go balls out and sign him for 10 years or wait 2-3 more years and sign him then.

            • Brett says:
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              @MattTruss223: i think it has to do with avg value of contact to keep them under the luxery tax. If he agrees to a one year 1 million. Than a six year extension at 35mil a year it would help them more as appose to a one mil for one year and a ten year extension. I think its all about that tax.

            • Brett says:
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              @MattTruss223: @MattTruss223: i think it has to do with avg value of contact to keep them under the luxery tax. If he agrees to a one year 1 million. Than a six year extension at 35mil a year it would help them more as appose to a one mil for one year and a ten year extension. I think its all about that tax.

            • A Hill O' Beans says:
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              @MattTruss223: Trout is 22, not 32 like Pujols was, BIG, I MEAN BIG difference there.

              That x100.

              If ever there was a situation that called for signing a guy to a massive 10 year deal, it’s when he’s the best player in baseball and only 22 years old.

              • MattTruss223 says:
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                @A Hill O’ Beans: EXACTLY! There’s NO more “sure” thing then signing Trout long term. There is exactly ZERO other players in MLB I would feel more comfortable giving a huge deal to. Risk? Sure, there always is, but a big deal here sure seems to put the odds more in your favor.

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                  @MattTruss223: they’re morons. The last three contracts they did they overpaid. Pupils, Hamilton, and Wilson were all over paid. They tried using a dated model that doesn’t work anymore. Bottom line if they dont sign hamilton to that ridiculous deal then trout gets his ten year and were not even having this conversation. Talk about getting your dick caught in a vice.

                  • Brett says:
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                    @J-FOH: 100% agree. Unfortunately they did and now they have to have a team of finance guys to figure out how much they can give best player in game. Horrible team management by angels if they didnt know they were going to have to pay trout before he was arbitration elligible.

                  • MattTruss223 says:
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                    @J-FOH: That’s basically what I was getting at, wanted to make sure I wasn’t the only one who thought so. Gonna hurt to see Trout in pinstripes in 2021…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @MattTruss223: wait…are you an Angels fan?

                    • MattTruss223 says:
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                      @MattTruss223: No, just a Yankees hater, haha.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @MattTruss223: you seem way to intelligent to be an Angels fan, who in my opinion are collectively the dumbest fan base in all of baseball. The Giants and Dodgers are really a close second.

                      Strangely the A’s fans are probably the smartest group per capita. Same state and even same areas but what a different result.

                    • MattTruss223 says:
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                      @MattTruss223: Ha! Thanks. my team allegiance is a long story, but the short story is, I’m a Braves fan. Though, living in New England for the past 15 years, I’ve got some Sawx bias too.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @MattTruss223: braves and sox, we just went from potential friends to lifetime acquaintances with some distance in about 1 minute

                    • MattTruss223 says:
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                      @MattTruss223: Ha! Fair enough. Ultimately I’m just a baseball nerd, at least we have that in common lifetime acquaintance w/some distance.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @MattTruss223: yeah…I’ll talk to you next month

                    • robdouth says:
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                      @MattTruss223: Have to disagree with you J-FOH. I’ve been to a number of stadiums and the nicest and smartest fans were in St. Louis. They aren’t just blowing smoke when they say they have the best fans in baseball. I’m stuck in AZ where they are also some of the worst fans. It’s like they want to be as obnoxious as LA fans, but aren’t quite cool enough to do it with the aloofness. At least they didn’t nearly beat an opposing fan to death though.

                      Rockies fans are great also, although I’m guessing anyone in the midwest is pretty solid. The best places to see a game for me:

                      St. Louis (fans and venue)
                      Colorado (venue then fans)
                      Atlanta (southern hospitality, good venue)
                      Milwaukee (great food/beer, decent fans)
                      Cleveland (the Jake is a great stadium and surprisingly very intimate plus it’s semi-midwest)

                • Brett says:
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                  @MattTruss223: however, if they can sign trout for six years, and he uderstands the tax problem, they could get more pieces to actually win. Then sign him again. Not just have best player in game. Unfortunately the last two years it didnt make a difference that they had trout. Still on sidelines of playoffs.

                  • goodfold2 says:
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                    @Brett: being from st.louis we are known as nice,fair fans (even respect opp’s, esp if they are good players) of baseball. I wouldn’t say smartest, by and large though. Although that might depend on where you sat when you saw that Cardinals game. I’ve talked to much smarter eastern types (from BOS, NYY etc) just coming through town about baseball than anybody local that i know from town concerning it. Hung out with a guy from BOS last year at a bus/metro train station last world series and he was much smarter than average st.louisan when it came to baseball stuff.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @MattTruss223:Any free agent years Mike Trout is willing to sell is going to be heavily discounted just based on what an average win costs. I think it’s at 6 million right now. And he’s a 9+ WAR player right now.

      Not to mention, Trout’s a human being. He probably wants security and to be paid. If the Angels shrug him off for three years, probably not the best way to do things.

      • MattTruss223 says:
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        @Jay: What do you suppose he’d earn over three years of arbitration? It’s not like they aren’t paying him for those 3 years, just not $25 mil/year

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @MattTruss223: At least 60 million. Ryan Howard got 15/20/25 for his last three years of arbitration iirc.

    • Theo says:
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      @MattTruss223: I’m not in front of my computer to do the math, but the price of a win by WAR is currently around $7.5 million and inflation in MLB contracts is 3-6% a year. Arbitration contracts tend to be around 33% of market value year 1, 66% year 2, and close to 100% year 3. Rough estimate without a spreadsheet but if Trout averages 7 WAR/season over the next 6 years (less than he’s produced thus far, so being “conservative” but still assuming he’s in the mix for best player of the year each year), the 2 FA years the Angels are buying are alone worth almost $150M. I think the deal is great for both sides. Trout gets rich now with the opportunity to get a record contract at age 28 and the Angels get possibly $450M+ of production out of Trout if he continues to produce at a 7-10 WAR pace.

      • MattTruss223 says:
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        @Theo: Riiiiight…..but no one is giving Trout 52.5 millions dollars a year so this whole price of a win by WAR thing seems kinda silly. Not to mention, if he’s still contributing 7 WAR/season in 2020, why not give him 10 years now and get even more of a bargain? That’s my point. The way I see it there are 2 smart options for the Angels. Wait and give him a 6 year extension in 2017 or just throw down and give him 10 years right now. Giving him a 6 year deal in 2014 seems kinda half assed to me. That’s all I’m saying.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @MattTruss223: First of all, it’s not if someone would pay him that. It’s maximizing your resources and trying to gather assets at below market value. You would be doing both here.

          Second, you still haven’t responded to the human element. This is a major factor.

          • MattTruss223 says:
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            @Jay: OK, then why not maximize your resources and gather this asset at below market value for TEN years? That’s my point:

            The way I see it there are 2 smart options for the Angels. Wait and give him a 6 year extension in 2017 or just throw down and give him 10 years right now. Giving him a 6 year deal in 2014 seems kinda half assed to me. That’s all I’m saying.

            The human element…meh….pretty sure Trout won’t feel an ounce of “human element” when a team comes knocking with $35 mil/year. He won’t say, “oh, but that one time, LAA gave me that 6 year extension, that was swell of them, I think I’ll take way less and stay with them”. Not to mention, is it “inhuman” to give him $60 mil over his 3 arbitration years and THEN give him $150 million or more? Wouldn’t it be more of a kinda gesture to provide him guaranteed money for 10 years? I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with buying out the arbitration years, but why would you do it and only gain 3 years of extra control of a guy? If you believe he’s your future, sign him up for 7 extra years.

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              @MattTruss223: I doubt the Angels can get him at 10 years in a deal both parties like at this point. If I’m Trout I don’t want a 10 year deal that doesn’t make me the highest paid player ever but I’m willing to give 2 years of FA at a discount to get rich now and when I’m 28 go set the record for the largest contract in history. Since we don’t know for sure, assume they can’t lock him up for 10 at a reasonable deal, they are still getting a good deal with the 6 year contract and opening a channel for a possible extension in the future. Both sides win here in my opinion.

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                @Theo: If you make that assumption, then sure. But, if you make that assumption then Trout is clearly “winning”.

  13. Baggiejohn says:
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    I kind of lucked into the Pitcher Strategy on my 10-Team H2H League – they count Holds

    SP Wainwright
    SP Fernandez
    SP Sale
    SP Cain
    SP Latos
    SP Cole
    SP Salazar

    RP Balfour
    RP Frieri
    RP Parnell
    RP Melancon
    RP Clippard

    I was looking at the other Teams thinking ‘it’s not difficult to see me winning 4 or 5 Pitching categories every week.’

    I have my one full Roto Draft tonight. It looks like there has been some major re-adjustments in Yahoo drafts. Salazar and Gyorko are both ranked higher and coming off the board sooner, which sucks.

    Meanwhile, Mike Napoli is dropping like a stone … I got him around 190 last night.

    Finally, where should I be looking for a Closer? I’ve positioned them around 150 – 180 at the moment. Any later and they’re gone!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Baggiejohn: I look for closers around pick 120…

  14. ashtray says:
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    I abused streaming last year. And by abused I mean I was picking up about 2 new pitchers every morning. Anyway, a couple guys in the league complained that they were “having less fun” with me doing that so they’re instituting some limits this year. Not sure if it’s going to be a weekly limit or total year limit. This leads to my question:

    In a H2H league with transaction limits would that simply mean that I should put more emphasis on drafting pitchers a little sooner than I normally would or would I still just stick to your rule #3 and make sure that every Bench spot is filled with SPs?

    • Cram It says:
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      @ashtray: Both I’d say. Better quality and more SP

  15. Marlins1992 says:
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    Play in a points league that allows 1 pt per Total Base, Run, RBI, SB, and BB. -1 for K. Thoughts on Votto vs. Prince? I know Prince is in “best shape of his life”, but those never seem to make much difference once a player ages and/or carries 270 lbs on a 5’11” frame. However, I love the lineup and ballpark.

  16. Kevin says:
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    Every league I’ve drafted this year in H2H has had one who drafted only RP. No SP…none. I’m interested in watching this unfold for a season. I faced a team in the PO last year like this and I lost. Was not one of my stronger teams, but his strategy got me thinking. I figured I’d try this approach in one league…but have not done so yet.

    • matt says:
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      @Kevin: I wish I could face a team like that in the playoffs lol

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @Kevin: I did that in my H2H league last year, though we count Holds as well, so it makes a little more sense there. Made the final, where I lost, mainly due to shitty hitting, but also because a reliever blow-up early in the week left me chasing ERA/WHIP – which is the risk going relievers-only.

      Probably going to do it6 again this year though…

  17. Clint says:
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    So, listening to CBS Sportsline podcast this morning (yes, I enjoy torture as I tell my dominatrix nightly) and nearly snotted coffee out of my nose when I heard Nando say he thinks Kemp is a 3rd rounder this year? Am I just jaded after trading for him last year and having him contribute zero to my championship cause or am I correct that when he gets an MRI all you can see is the table through his glass body that isn’t worth nearly that much unless I’m selling him to a chop shop?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Clint: He could end up being a 3rd rounder, but he shouldn’t be drafted as one… He’s not even playing yet…

      • Charlie says:
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        @Grey:

        I’m the commissioner of my league and set a deadline to declare keepers. Of course there were a few stragglers and I had to harass them to give me theirs since I know they’d come to me the day before the draft and say ‘hey, x, y, and z are my keepers.’ Anyways, I reminded the league 100x over that if you keep a player you forfeit the round the player was drafted in.

        Invariably, one of the stragglers declared Kemp as his keeper. He drafted him in the first round last year. $10 says on draft day he comes to me and says ‘Why is Kemp a first round guy???’

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha!

        • Clint says:
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          @Charlie:

          That prompts a new keeper league question I have for you. I’ve joined a 12 team budding keeper league and we’re having spirited debates on how to set up the number of keepers, how long we can keep them, and what round draft picks are forfeited for them year to year. What’s the fairest way to set that up? I argued if you draft a guy in the last round last year you shouldn’t have to pay 5th round value for him as a keeper in the new year just because Yahoo thinks he is. My suggestion was that if you’re going to use their absurd rankings, at least forego the first year of keeping the guy otherwise late round gems serve no value do they? For example, I drafted Shelby Miller with my last draft pick last year so if we keep 8 guys, I could potentially keep him on a discount or the higher value this year.

  18. Troy says:
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    Love your articles and rankings! However, I play in a weekly H2H points league, not categories…you guys ever write strategy or produce rankings for those type of leagues. I know certain players don’t change much, i.e. your Miggy example…but any tips?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Troy: There will be Points League posts starting next week…

  19. stonepie says:
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    definitely going the quantity route this year for h2h pitching. i know you shouldnt chase wins, however i like to pick guys on winning teams, particularly when it comes to the end of the draft.
    guys who should be around a littler later, on NL teams, who should get wins (haren, corbin) have alot of value to me using this strategy.

    also- with the depth of starters this year, im going to place more emphasis on picking 3 reliable closers this year. this has always been a weakness for me

  20. manormachine? says:
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    Pitching is even more important in H2H. You want Quality and Quantity. Pitching is much more predictable on a weekly basis than hitting. Everyone will run out the same number of offensive players every week, and get roughly the same number of AB and games played, but you have a lot of control over IP and your pitchers’ matchups.

    If the rules on streaming are at all restrictive in your league, top quality starters, guys you can run out there every week regardless of matchups, become more important because they will help you with your ratios as you go for counting stats.

    Relievers become less important the more IP you plan on piling up, simply because they only throw a few innings a week and will have less effect on your counting stats and ratios than another starter. In a weekly league, I would rather use a swing P slot on an SP, or run out an RP eligible SP then use a middle reliever or an extra closer.

  21. Dkohn says:
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    Grey do you think when good people die they go to your upper lip?

    Shutup Gandhi, Quentin didn’t wear a cup today, and it’s time he paid the piper!
    (That’s you arguing with your mustache hair angels)

    Any the hoo, I hate these questions but…
    Eric Hosmer in the 4th or,
    Mike Minor in the 11th

    Already keeping Desmond (7th), Rizzo (8th), Donaldson (12th)

    Thanks Grey

    P.S. Have you checked out Schoolboy Q’s new album? Kinda blows.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dkohn: Yes, I do… Ha… Minor… I haven’t listened yet, not good, huh? That’s a bummer…

  22. Spencer says:
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    In my 10 Team H2H we only count IP, K/9, WHIP, ERA, QS, SV for pitchers. In this format, would you consider breaking all the rules and going in early on a guy like Kimbrel? I figure he gets plenty of chances with the Braves and he would give you a real boost in 4 of the 6 counting categories. In my mocks I have been taking all my RP with the last 3 picks before I start my bench. How would you approach drafting to this scoring as far as SP and RP.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Spencer: I could see it working out with Kimbrel… I’d want better pitchers, starters and relievers, in your league… So less quantity, more quality…

      • Spencer says:
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        @Grey:
        That being said, with these settings how early is too early for pitching? How do I weight pitching vs hitting in this league? I would normally go hitting at least first 4-5 picks before I take any pitcher at all.

        • Grey

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          Around round 5 I’d go pitching… I’d weight it like any other league $90-ish on pitching…

  23. TJ says:
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    Need a little advice. I’m so excited with all the youngsters this year that I put together a 25 and under team. Can’t decide who to use or keep for starting day.

    Oscar Taveras
    Christian Yelich (part of the under 15 team)
    Matt Davidson
    Mike Moustakas
    Nick Franklin (Interested in what team he ends up on)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TJ: Can keep them all in some leagues

  24. Paul says:
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    Hey guys, if I could get your opinions on these keepers it would be great. 5×5 head to head replacing average with OBP, I can keep 3 of the 5:

    Harper for 11
    Gomez for 11
    Myers for 11
    Cobb for 8
    Wacha for 10

    I’m leaning Harper, Gomez, Cobb but the future upside of Myers and Wacha is insane (can keep Wacha 3 years and Myers 2)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Paul: Myers, Gomez, Harper

  25. KevinB says:
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    I have inherent a 5×5 12-team keeper league team. 6 keepers are kept each season.
    My potential keepers are:

    Freddie Freeman
    Manny Machado
    Jean Segura
    Matt Holliday
    Jay Bruce
    Hanley Ramirez
    Max Scherzer
    Aroldis Chapman

    I was sent a trade offer of Cargo and Pujols for Machado, Freeman, and my 7th round pick. I have the 11th pick in the draft.

    Since we keep 6 players and the 7th round would basically be the 1st round and I have another quick pick at the turn, how would you rate this trade offer? Is it worth taking to get Pujol and Cargo?
    Any feedback would be appreciated. :)

    • KevinB says:
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      @KevinB:

      Also, which player would you consider keepers, I am looking at these guys as my pontential keepers.

      Freddie Freeman
      Manny Machado
      Jean Segura
      Jay Bruce
      Hanley Ramirez
      Max Scherzer

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @KevinB: I’d take CarGo, assuming it’s the better one…

      • KevinB says:
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        @Grey … Yes, its Carlos Gonzalez (COL)
        #8 in your Top 10 for 2014 Fantasy Baseball. ;)

  26. Knowuh says:
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    Hey, what about points leagues?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Knowuh: Posts start next week…

  27. johnny2k says:
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    im not sure i agree with the quantity over quality for starters in h2h.

    in my experience you want to dip in earlier to the starter game for h2h leagues, then sit back til the end of the draft. if your opponent has kershaw or darvish on a 2 start week, it doesnt matter how many AJ griffins you have, you’re gonna lose a lot of categories

    i always try to get an ace or two then wait til the end of the draft to fill in the rest

  28. Mike says:
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    I am in a holds and saves league using your strategy I would lose two categories every week.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Mike: you seem to forget that his strategy is for 5X5’s, not holds leagues.

  29. Ryan says:
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    In my 20 team dynasty league I was offered Hanley and mccutchen for profar upton Yu bryant. Too much or good deal?

    c evan gattis
    1b miguel cabrera
    2b brandon phillips
    3b evan longoria
    ss jurickson profar
    lf justin upton
    cf shane victorino
    rf michael cuddyer
    util prince fielder
    bn kris bryant
    bn carl crawford/neil walker/michael morse/

    sp clayton kershaw
    sp yu darvish
    sp cliff lee
    rp jose veras
    rp sean doolittle
    rp dan delarosa
    p zack wheeler
    p dan straily
    p tanner roark
    bn garrett richards
    bn matt thornton

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ryan: Sounds solid for you

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: can I afford losing Darvish?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

    • Cram It says:
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      @Ryan: Resist the urge, resist the urge, resist the urge.

  30. Peter Ottone says:
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    So if in the first round I have Cargo or Davis there, are you saying go with the lower ranked guy in head to head if he’s less injury prone? Or go with power/speed guy?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Peter Ottone: Less injury prone, if deciding between two

  31. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    Hey Grey,

    For head to head leagues, what do you recommend for an auction budget for hitting and pitching? In our league, we have a $260 budget, so do you recommend a 70/30 split? or more in favor of hitting?

  32. Big Al says:
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    I need opinions from the Razzball Nation !!!! Pro’s and Con’s on having more than two of your starting hitting line up from the same team. Is 2 guys too many ? Are 3 guys ridicules. Are 4 guys illegal ??????. Or is this a good thing with a balance hitting powerhouse like St. Loius or Texas. Give me some feedback everybody.!!!!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big Al: Doesn’t matter

  33. TIM says:
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    NEED ADVICE FOR MY 1OTH KEEPER IN A 12 TEAM 10 KEEPER LEAGUE
    CURRENT KEEPERS LOCKED IN
    C-SAL PEREZ
    1B-RIZZO
    3B-MACHADO
    OF-KEMP
    OF-J UP
    OF- BILLY HAMILTON
    SP- STRASBURG
    SP-PRICE
    RP-CHAPMAN

    GUYS I AM QUESTIONING FOR THE 10TH SLOT
    NELSON CRUZ
    SAMARZDJA
    PATRICK CORBIN

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TIM: Corbin

  34. Comickaze says:
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    Fantasy soothsayers–
    Two separate H-2-H keeper leagues each with two keepers–>
    First one is 10 team 12×12; second is same set up but 12 team league–> I am listing possibilities and the draft spot with which I took the player as this will supplant that pick . (The player’s “draft value” will then be multiplied by 2/3 each additional year kept–> ex. Grabbed Joe Schmo in the 12th round last year, he will cost me a 12th round pick this year, next year 12(2/3)= 8th round pick and so on.)

    10 team league–>
    Already kept: Trout (13th)
    Possibilities:
    Carlos Gomez (22)
    Freddie Freeman (8)
    Jay Bruce (3)
    Manny Machado (13)
    Starling Marte (18)

    12-team league–> Need to keep 2
    Allen Craig (14)
    Giancarlo Stanton (3)
    Wil Myers (17)
    Starling Marte (18)
    Jean Segura (22)

    Thanks in

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Comickaze: Freeman… Myers, Segura

  35. Ethan says:
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    Freeman or J Zimmerman? To get freeman, I have to give up a 5th round pick and receive an 8th round pick in return (draft already loses 3 rounds of players to keepers).

  36. mustache man says:
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    Pick one

    Cobb @ $6
    S. Castro @ $5
    Hosmer @ $17

  37. mr. doug says:
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    Who are some of your favorite relievers to snag? Be it late closers, stud MR, closers in waiting…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Whatever closers I can get after pick 200 overall…

      • Swfcdan says:
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        @Grey: SAGNOF!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Indeed!

  38. BILL says:
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    I am in a 12 team h2h league (ESPN redraft) that uses the standard 5 categories for hitters, plus K’s and OPS.

    Just a heads up that my first couple picks are #3, 22, 27, 29, 51….

    Which those added categories, which players do you think jump in value the most? Which players fall the most? …I am trying to plan out my first several picks then go from there on draft day….

    Looking forward to hearing all opinions…

  39. malamoney

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    In my preparation for my drafts in my H2H points leagues I have taken the following approach to help me identify players.

    I use the previous years stats, previous years projections and the current years projections. The number I think might be most important in H2H points leagues is fantasy points per plate appearance (FPTS/PA). That is the stat that should mean the most. Obviously you also want players with a meaningful amount of plate appearance. For pitchers it is fantasy points per game start (FPTS/GS).

    I look at how they did last year compared to how a specific source projected them to do. This allows me to determine how I should value different sources of projections. Once I have decided on my trusted sources for projections, I look for batters with high FPTS/PA and starters with high FPTS/GS and target them. If I am stuck between two players I let this stat be my deciding factor. Unless of course ADP says I can get one of them a few rounds later.

    Thoughts on this approach?

      • malamoney

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        @Grey: That page is almost more confusing than useful.

        How about your thoughts on the importance of FPTS/PA and FPTS/GS when drafting players?

        At the end of the day it seems like this is the most meaningful number (providing the player remains healthy and accrues an acceptable season-long number of plate appearances)

        • Grey

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          That does seem like a meaningful number, but I’m not sure where that number is coming from or how it’s being calculated…

          • malamoney

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            @Grey: Here is what I do. I take a set of projections (yours for example) and import them into Excel. Then I add a column and enter a formula based on our league’s scoring system that will calculate each players’ total fantasy points for the season according to said projections. Then I add another column that divides that number by the number of plate appearances giving me FTPS/PA. I do the same for starting pitchers, but use game starts as opposed to plate appearances.

            Then I can sort in descending order to the more valuable players based on my league’s scoring system.

            • Grey

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              Sounds interesting… Any players that jump out at you that are a lot differently ranked when you sort by FTPS/PA?

              • malamoney

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                @Grey: Here are the top 10 (in order) at each position based on my league’s scoring system which is:

                +1 single, +2 double, +3 triple, +4 hr, +1 rbi, +1 run scored, +2 sb, -1 cs, +1 walk, -1 strikeout, +1 hpb and +1 sf
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                This is based on the Streamer projections I pulled down from Razzball some time last week.

                Catcher:

                Name FPTS/PA PA
                Buster Posey 0.692254733 581
                Yadier Molina 0.628091873 566
                Wilin Rosario 0.62593985 532
                Salvador Perez 0.621851852 540
                Brian McCann 0.613133208 533
                Carlos Santana 0.611437908 612
                Joe Mauer 0.594690265 565
                Jonathan Lucroy 0.591216216 592
                Evan Gattis 0.588801572 509
                Wilson Ramos 0.584565217 460

                Matt Wieters not in top 10.

                1st Base:

                Name FPTS/PA PA
                Edwin Encarnacion 0.759756098 656
                Albert Pujols 0.753097345 565
                Jose Abreu 0.745129225 503
                Prince Fielder 0.727647059 680
                Paul Goldschmidt 0.705346821 692
                Buster Posey 0.692254733 581
                Joey Votto 0.683092486 692
                Anthony Rizzo 0.669044006 659
                Eric Hosmer 0.657369942 692
                Freddie Freeman 0.65216763 692

                Top three surprise me based on your rankings.

                2nd Base:

                Name FPTS/PA PA
                Robinson Cano 0.672463768 690
                Dustin Pedroia 0.664221557 668
                Ian Kinsler 0.660030628 653
                Martin Prado 0.629569094 673
                Aaron Hill 0.621335505 614
                Ben Zobrist 0.613988095 672
                Chase Utley 0.611205433 589
                Jose Altuve 0.609370425 683
                Matt Carpenter 0.595947902 691
                Josh Rutledge 0.589295039 383

                Kipnis and Gyorko not in top 10. Prado #4

                3rd Base:

                Name FPTS/PA PA
                Miguel Cabrera 0.845809249 692
                Adrian Beltre 0.71503876 645
                Pablo Sandoval 0.656462585 588
                David Wright 0.650920245 652
                Brett Lawrie 0.633732877 584
                Martin Prado 0.629569094 673
                Evan Longoria 0.629347826 644
                Aramis Ramirez 0.628282828 594
                Josh Donaldson 0.601963746 662
                Nolan Arenado 0.598122066 639

                Sandoval at #3. Prado in top 10

                Shortstop:

                Name FPTS/PA PA
                Troy Tulowitzki 0.739078498 586
                Jose Reyes 0.672463768 621
                Hanley Ramirez 0.640803709 647
                Jean Segura 0.614668547 709
                Ben Zobrist 0.613988095 672
                Andrelton Simmons 0.594992175 639
                Elvis Andrus 0.576868829 709
                Erick Aybar 0.572598425 635
                Jed Lowrie 0.564114833 627
                Brad Miller 0.561432927 656

                Aybar and Lowrie in top 10.

                Outfield (top 30):

                Name FPTS/PA PA
                Mike Trout 0.787283237 692
                Jose Bautista 0.754637097 496
                Andrew McCutchen 0.725578035 692
                Carlos Gonzalez 0.710265487 565
                Ryan Braun 0.692753623 621
                Giancarlo Stanton 0.687673611 576
                Yasiel Puig 0.667127496 651
                Matt Holliday 0.661349693 652
                Coco Crisp 0.649597424 621
                Norichika Aoki 0.649542683 656
                Bryce Harper 0.648208469 614
                Jason Heyward 0.646515152 660
                Shane Victorino 0.642013889 576
                Oscar Taveras 0.638423645 203
                Jacoby Ellsbury 0.634848485 660
                Martin Prado 0.629569094 673
                Corey Dickerson 0.627640845 568
                Shin-Soo Choo 0.626231884 690
                Carlos Beltran 0.623953099 597
                Adam Jones 0.622547584 683
                Alex Rios 0.616461538 650
                Justin Upton 0.616288952 706
                Allen Craig 0.615658915 645
                Michael Cuddyer 0.61461039 616
                Ben Zobrist 0.613988095 672
                Kole Calhoun 0.607750473 529
                Jarrod Dyson 0.606060606 198
                Domonic Brown 0.605980066 602
                Angel Pagan 0.605152979 621
                Carlos Quentin 0.598101266 474

                Crisp at #9 and Prado at #15. Myers, Marte, Bruce, Gordon, Gomez and Pence not in top 30.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Interesting… I think your scoring system is actually changing the rankings more than anything…

                  • malamoney

                    malamoney says:
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                    @Grey: Perhaps, but this method allows me to get the players most valuable to my league. But someone else could just modify the formula for that column to get results for their league.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, makes sense…

                    • Simply Fred

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                      @malamoney: did similar…looked at top ten RCL teams from last year…created a formula based on how they ranked each cat…example, they ranked highest in rbi, lowest in avg; highest in Ks, lowest in W/SV…then applied the formula to steamer and grey to re-rank them based on the formula…not sure how to evaluate the ones where large discrepancies between grey and steamer.

                      i like the way you think!

              • ReleasetheMcCracken says:
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                @Grey: Ran this quickly using a popular projection system with my H2H league settings (1pt total bases, -1K). Small sample to give you an idea of how it affects valuation:

                Name/Pts/PA/Pts_PA
                Ortiz/397.5/562/.071
                Cano/428.5/644/0.67
                Votto/413.5/613/0.67
                Stanton/368/550/0.67
                Ellsbury/398/677/0.59

                Name/Pts_Rank/PtsPA_Rank
                Ortiz/24/8
                Cano/11/17
                Votto/18/17
                Stanton/41/17
                Ellsbury/23/61

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Wow, interesting…

                • malamoney

                  malamoney says:
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                  @ReleasetheMcCracken: This is what I am talking about. With all of the great resources for projections available to us, I feel this is the best way to take full advantage of them by tailoring them to our individual leagues. Everyone’s league/scoring system is different so it’s impossible to use projections, as they come, to determine who you should be drafting.

                  I don’t care about line drive percent, or WAR. What I care about it was is going to win my league. The same set of projections that give you the line drive percentage and WAR should also give you the stats you need to calculate FTPS/PA.

                  Treat the players like stocks. Take your emotions out of it and use the raw numbers. FTPS/PA and FPTS/GS tell me who to target, and ADP tells me when I need to draft them.

                  • Simply Fred

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                    @malamoney: that’s good to a certain point…’intangibles’ do count for me…grey’s track record on schmohawks is stellar…i will overlook just stats in those cases…

                    • malamoney

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                      @simply fred: Well yes, I agree. But that’s because projections are just that, projections. If they were actual stats, then there would be very little thought required. I usually pick 2 or 3 sources for projections, run my formulas to find the players to target and then fine tune based on valued opinions such as those from Grey.

                      There’s just so much bullshit out there that you really have be able to ignore the fluff and concentrate on what’s going to give you the best chance to win your league.

                  • ReleasetheMcCracken says:
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                    @malamoney: How do you project RP since they have zero game starts, games? Also shouldn’t pitcher projections be calculated against innings pitched instead of game starts?

  40. Knowuh says:
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    Oh and off topic again, but when will the podcast be up and running?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hoping March, but I’ll have to ask Nick…

      • Knowuh says:
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        @Grey:

        Nick, hurry up dude! If I have to hear Eric Karabell one more day, I will shoot myself. Don’t make me do it!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

  41. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    Grey,

    Just an FYI in case I’m not the only one. Starting today when I go to Razzball, as the page loads (in Firefox) I sometimes get a new tab opening saying “ERROR. Windows has detected that you must update Java immediately” (the url is winupdate.com or some scammy site). It’s only happened when I’m loading an individual article page on Razzball, and not every time (twice so far).

    I’m not sure if it’s maybe from one of the advertisements on the page being malicious or something. Just thought I’d let you know in case it is.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ugh, okay, will look into it… Could you take a screenshot for me?

      • A Hill O' Beans says:
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        @Grey: I will take one the next time it happens to me.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I just Googled it and it looks like an issue with your computer… Is this only site where it happens?

          • A Hill O' Beans says:
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            @Grey: Yeah this is the only site I’ve had it happen, and only just today.

            I’ve never really had any virus problems at all on my computer (I’m a software developer), and I actually just had it happen again when the page reloaded after posting my last comment.

            I’ve got some screenshots that I was gonna attach in the forum for you, but I’ll have to do something with them because it says they are too large when I first tried.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Could you use this? awesomescreenshot.com

          • A Hill O' Beans says:
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            @Grey: Okay, so I’ve posted some screenshots in the forum just in case it helps.

            http://razzball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=36535

            I don’t know, it could be my computer and not the site, but so far I’ve only had the issue when I’ve got a Razzball page loading, so I’m leaning towards that.

            I’ll update my forum post if I notice anything else though.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Thanks!

  42. Wilsonian says:
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    My 8 Team H2H upped the rosters this season. With rosters like the following, how many bench bats would you draft? We added 5 additional roster spots upping our team total to 27 players.

    C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, OF, OF, OF, OF, UTIL, UTIL

    SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P

    6 Bench Spots

    2 DL, 1 N/A

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Maybe two… It’s a shallow league, you’re just gonna drop bench bats anyway…

      • Wilsonian says:
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        @Grey: yeah, they fluctuate anyway, depending on the week. I usually maintained one bench bat in year’s past, just to make sure I had a sub if need be, but with the expanded benches, I figured most of those spots would go to SPs.

        We are doing 9 total weekly transactions this year, however. Not sure yet if/how that changes anything.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d go with 2 bench bats, but it’s gonna chance each week…

  43. Jay_0321 says:
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    Castle GreySkull I just found out that I landed the first overall pick in a 1o team H2H with QS and OPS. Do I take Miggy or Trout? I consider myself almost as much a fantasy expert as the next guy less the Saberhagenmetrics at this point, but I am usually never this fortunate to land a pick of this magnitude so I havent had much practice. I love Miggy this year, but Trout’s overall contribution too much to pass up?

    Also, your strategy of stacking an SP brothel starts at what round in this format?

    Also have you seen the Castle GreySkull video from the Bam Margera guys? Fuckin’ hilarious! YouTube it!

    Oh, almost forgot…You (Razzball) da’ man!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha…Thanks! Trout… SP starts in different rounds in different leagues in different drafts… I haven’t see the video, will check it out…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… WTF….

          • Jay_0321 says:
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            @Grey: Seriously, some chick I was dating years ago put me onto it and it was hilarious then as it is now. I wish I could post her picture…she was smoking hot, but kind of rockabilly.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Jay_0321: I remember that from CKY videos like ten something years ago. good stuff….good stuff

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha… Poodle skirt?

              • Jay_0321 says:
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                @Grey: LMAO no poodle skirt, that was a lil too 50’s for her. She’s a hairstylist for some celebrities in Redondo Beach. Helluva rack!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Betty Boop tattoo?

                  • Jay_0321 says:
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                    @Grey: Full Dia de Los Muertos half arm sleeve and a 57′ Chevy with the hood open where the grass used to grow.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      HAHA… I’m thinking a white girl that no one could guess her nationality but was actually Mexican…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Jay_0321: Have you ever noticed that a lot of the girls that roll that style are really ugly and hide behind all that mess, not saying yours, I’ve seen my fair share of hotties. Go to the Ink n Iron festival at the queen mary in June or the Hootenany in July, but damn there are so many fugly ones

  44. J-FOH says:
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    Have I ever mentioned my disdain for the bastard child of fantasy football that got left on the doorstep of fantasy baseball without even a note?

    • Prez!! says:
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      @J-FOH: dont talk about sky that way!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Prez!!: be nice to Sky, he really has abandonment issues

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          @J-FOH: @Prez!!: I was told they found a couple of Vape coupons bundled in my swaddle.

          • Prez!! says:
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            The mri on neises shoulder came in today… It revealed nose tructual damage..

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              HA!

            • Prez!! says:
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              Heyy how did that get here!? First neise nose joke of the year and its a fail…

            • Wake Up says:
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              @Prez!!: HAHA!

  45. FillyP says:
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    IT’S BACK!! I’m a basketball nut, but nothing satisfies my inner geek like fantasy baseball dissection. Hope you’re ready for the questions!

    Format: 12t H2H 7×7 (OBP/XBH + IP/QS)

    This is my first year picking keepers. What do you think of these?

    Jones – 2nd Round (#13)
    Bailey – 10th Round (#109)
    Machado – 13th Round (#156)
    Perkins – 14th Round (#157)
    Burnett – 18th Round (#205)

    I don’t have a 1st rounder because I swapped my 3rd for a 1st to obtain Kershaw last year. The good news is I won my championship, and in the best scenario possible, I obtained #25 for my #12. Schwing!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice… Your keepers are just okay…

      • FillyP says:
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        @Grey:

        Haven’t locked any of them in yet. Are there any you’d get rid of?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @FillyP: Burnett’s pretty whatever

  46. alcohol abuser says:
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    In a 12 team dynasty with standard hitting categories plus BB and Ks.

    What side would you rather have?
    Votto, Mauer
    or
    Rizzo, Bautista

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Votto

  47. GFY250 says:
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    10 team keeper question with $260 budget standard 5×5 league. I need to keep at least 1 power bat, either fielder for $38 or Stanton for $30. I don’t want to spend that much for fielder but he’s safe. On the other hand Stanton has a pretty steep price as well but with upside. So fielder, Stanton, or neither? Also marte for$10 as a keeper, yes or no? Will he hit enough HRs?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Stanton…Yes, Marte

  48. TacktheKack says:
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    Hey Grey, you helped me nab 3rd place last year in my league despite never playing fantasy baseball before, so thanks. I know the endless lineup evaluations are annoying so this will be the only time I ask.
    I’m in a weekly head to head 10 team espn league (no midweek lineup changes) with 22 categories (avg, runs, sb, k, 2b, 3b, hr, rbi, tb, h and bb…era, whip, sv, qs, bb, cg, k, oba, W, L and k/9). Roster size is 21 (c, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3 of, utility…sp, rp, 5p..5 bench)
    Here’s the roster I’ve been ending up with in most mocks…
    c: perez
    1b: pujols
    2b: altuve
    ss: segura
    3b: arenado
    of: jones
    of: harper
    of: myers
    util: b hamilton
    bench: j abreau
    bench: gyrko
    bench: calhoun
    SP: Cobb
    RP: Balfour
    P: Bailey
    P: Teheran
    P: Liriano
    P: Gray
    P: Salazar
    P: Frieri
    P: Corbin

    This lineup did pretty well in the war room but because our league has so many categories not sure if it will totally translate. Last year I followed your advice for Rutledge and 2b killed me all year so thats why I grabbed Altuve and Gyrko. Figured Abreau would be a good backup if pujols gets hurt or drops off and I know you arent big on b hamilton but because there are so many categories where speed helps in addition to steals I figured he could be helpful if going against faster teams.
    Also, in espn gyrko is only 2b do you think theres a shot he’ll pickup 3b eligibilty this season? that would be nice as he could swap with altuve or arenado if needed?

    Thanks for all your insight.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t love the amount of guys that are speed or power only… Don’t have a lot of balanced players… It’s not the end all, but I’d prefer to see some balance… The pitching looks solid… Gyorko will probably get 5-10 games at 3rd base…

  49. steve says:
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    Trade Tanaka and Kluber for Gio and Wacha?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure

  50. PaulyOH says:
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    Minor league keeper question….10-team, NL-only H2H points league…can keep forever.

    I can keep only 2 of these guys who qualify in our minor leagues. Which 2?

    Kolten Wong
    Robert Stephenson
    Maikel Franco
    Greg Polanco

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wong, Polanco

  51. Dan says:
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    Keeper question:

    16 Team H2H league, OBP and SLG , no AVG, no runs
    Need to keep 4 of the following ($260 budget)

    Stanton – $34
    Scherzer – $19
    Gomez – $19
    Aaron Hill – $1
    Billy Hamilton – $1
    Cole – $1
    Teheran – $1

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Teheran, Hamilton, Cole, Gomez

  52. Ryan says:
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    My 15 team and first Nfbc slow draft so far

    C d’arnaud, Avila
    Cl fielder, Abreu, arenado, Asche
    MI Andrus, Gyorko, Escobar, Rutledge, Baez
    Of Harper, Myers, avisail, bourjos, Greg polanco
    Sp liriano, latos, cole, fister, josh Johnson, kazmir
    Rp hunter, Veras

    Pretty solid so far?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, not bad… Looks for outfielders that have a clear path for starting time…

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: yeah that’s the plan and im goin to grab one or two next in line for saves in the next few rounds

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Cool

  53. the tone ranger says:
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    grey, can you rank who youd keep? 6 keepers.
    H2H. rounds increase by 3 each year, but you can keep your top guys forever in the top rounds.

    Miggy (1)
    Salazar (27)
    Votto (2)
    machado (24)
    cobb (15)
    bogaerts (27)
    avisail (27)
    gyorko (27)
    everth (18)
    matt carpenter (22)
    yelich (27)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, Machado, Gyorko, Avisail, Everth, Carpenter

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        why not votto ?

    • Swfcdan says:
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      @the tone ranger: Thats the sort of league I’ve been looking to join. Any owners drop out?

  54. costaricanchata says:
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    marlins could not survive one night.
    how are they going to make it through 162 games ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HAHA

  55. Swfcdan says:
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    Seems Iwakuma’s fingers a bit of a mess right now.

    Keep $16 Pence over $6 ‘Kuma?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      If you’d like

      • Swfcdan says:
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        @Grey: Bif of an un-Grey-like answer, whats that mean.

        Tomato, tomahto?

        • Swfcdan says:
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          @Swfcdan: Or keep both over an $11 G Holland.

          • Swfcdan says:
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            @Swfcdan: Sorry yeah just checking with final keeper deadlines in now. Let me know if you’d take both over Holland anyway.

            • Grey

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              Kind of a push on all fronts… I’d lean towards the hitter…

              • Swfcdan says:
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                @Grey: It’s an OBP league and noticed even with Pence’s great year he didn’t even top .340…Add that with his steals (I don’t think are sustainable looking at his years before last), and I think I’m gonna make him the odd one out.

  56. steve says:
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    Counter proposal – trade Tanaka and TWalker for Gio and Wacha. Do it right?

    • Swfcdan says:
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      @steve: Tomato and tomahto for tomato and tomahto.

      Gio= Tanaka
      Walker=Wacha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds fine

  57. Duke Silver says:
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    What do you think the projected team totals/category should be when the draft is over? (RBI, HR, RUNS, ERA, etc) You probably have mentioned this before but I could not find it when I was digging through razzball. I did however find some values already plugged into the war room and was wondering if these were your numbers (R = 1021, HR = 255, RBI = 973, etc)
    Thanks Grey

    • Grey

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      I’d go with the War Room numbers as targets… Rudy will be doing targets for other leagues in a few…

  58. Bas says:
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    Hi Grey,

    I need some keeper advise. 12 teams 5×5 keep 7. No salaries involved, keep forever if you like.

    have Pedroia, McCutch, Wright, Justin Upton, Jay Bruce, Rosario, Carlos Santana Price, Yu and Greg Holland as potential keepers.

    Starting pitchers are not valued as much as closers with plenty of K’s.

    Who would you keep?

    Have an offer to get E5 (E6?) for Wright, Pedroia and Upton. Feels like to much but love to hear your verdict.

    many thanks from The Netherlands,
    Bas

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Holland, Rosario or Price… Not good for Edwin…

      • Simply Fred

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        @Grey: what? holland seceding from the netherlands? :-)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha!

  59. Chazz says:
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    14 Team H2H 6 player Keeper. Wins, Saves, K/9, Era, Whip. I am keeping Clayton Kershaw. What is my pitching strategy when going into the draft. Do you go big on closers and MR with high K/9?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That would work… Definitely don’t draft any top tier starters…

  60. Oaktownsteve says:
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    Greinke leaves start. Apparent leg injury.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That stinks as he was a guy I was avoiding that others weren’t…

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @Grey: @Oaktownsteve: After all his whinging, it gets him out of travelling to Sydney. His loss.

      • Grey

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        I think it’s actually best for everyone to avoid that trip… I’m sure it’s beautiful there, but take about a loss of quality time gearing up for the season…

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @Grey: Yeah, that’s all true, but it’s a great town.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            No doubt… I just think it’s gotta be grueling for a short trip… Guessing both teams will play spring games again when they return…

  61. steve says:
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    Got Gio for Tanaka straight up? Do you think Gio is less risk with similar reward? or Less risk with slightly less reward?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Gio

  62. Robinade says:
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    10 team h2h 5×5 cats but OBP replaces Average

    Would you rather have Segura and B Mccann or E Cabrera and C Santana?

    It seems that this format would drive Segura down and Cabrera and Santana up…

    Thanks for all the help!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura

  63. Fritzy says:
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    Great post, great site, Grey.

    I have a little keeper question. We only keep 1.

    I have either:

    Hanley for a 6th
    Marte for a 20th

    I’m also in the lead for the #1 overall pick…

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hanley

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, and thanks!

  64. Phil says:
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    Gary need your help. I need to keep 5 keepers. Which 5?
    Votto, Peralta,Braun,Choo,Cruz,avisail Garcia,Heyward, cliff lee,David price,Jordan Zimmermann

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Votto, Braun, Choo, Lee, Price

  65. Slam says:
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    In light of this h2h post and the comment about nagging injuries- I’m in an h2h keeper and got offer josh Donaldson and Jed gyorko for David wright. League counts 5×5 plus ops. I’d be replacing brad miller at mi with Gyorko. Should I take it? L

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Donaldson/Gyorko

  66. Jay says:
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    oops grienke pulled from Start after three pitches….DUNT DUNT DOOOOOONNN

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds like a leg issue…

  67. steve says:
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    10 team H2H Yahoo. Pretty shallow league – 5 starters, 6 bench, 3 rp and 11 everyday players.
    How is my staff?

    Cole
    Cobb
    Salazar
    Gio
    Gray
    Masterson
    TWalker
    Klubber
    Porcello

    • Grey

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      Looks solid

  68. Swfcdan says:
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    God it feels good to just be able to watch baseball again. The withdrawal symptoms are over!

  69. Spammer Jay says:
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    HI Grey, just was invited to join a points league where you can keep a player for up to 3 years. This is my first go at a points league, and I noticed that top 80 pitchers (162 games limit) in this league produced way more points than the top 30 hitters last season. For example 3rd ranked pitcher Wainwright scored 790 pts, and 3rd ranked hitter Goldy scored 540pts) As one of two expansion teams I have to do a preliminary draft of 4 players from a limited player pool. Here are the top players available:

    Aushiz!
    Cano
    Encarnacion
    Stanton
    Bautista
    Choo
    Segura
    J. Upton
    Rios
    Myers

    Strasburg
    Sale
    Cobb
    Price
    Liriano
    Latos
    Masterson
    Gray
    Tanaka

    I have the first pick, who should I target in this format?

    Thanks as always!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Goldy

      • Spammer Jay says:
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        @Grey: so is the draft strategy more or less the same then in a points format? Draft solid hitters so I can reserve bench space for streaming SP’s?

        • Grey

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          Yeah, could work there too… Has a bit more to do with the size of the league…

          • Spammer Jay says:
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            @Grey: this league has 14 teams in it.

            • Grey

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              It would work there, 12-14 is close enough…

  70. Chris says:
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    IF you could pick 1 hitter 1 pitcher and 1 sleeper you are excited about this fantasy baseball season in a 5×5 12 team league…Who would they be?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I have a bunch, check out my rankings…

  71. Ronaldo says:
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    Who are this years must get guys? This years Goldy? Segura? Carlos Gomez? Corbin? Harvey? Who should we be looking to grab so we can crush our leagues again?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      See my rankings…

  72. Peter Nincompoop says:
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    Good head-to-head rules to abide by. It’s just like, my opinion man, but I would elaborate a little more on content of rule #2 and emphasize assembling a balanced roster. H2H is the most unpredictable format in fantasy baseball and eventually will negatively accentuate categorical discrepancies (i.e., speed heavy, power heavy, starting pitching heavy, etc). Unbalanced teams may consistently win 2-to-3 categories per week depending on which way they lean, but there’s always give and take. In order to gain a statistical advantage in one category, you sacrifice numbers in others. I think it’s very important to begin the season with a balanced roster (as most teams are not), maintain it through early summer and then start to tinker a little bit based upon the teams you may see come playoffs.

    Anyway, I have a question for Grey. I’m in a 10-team H2H keeper league and assembled the following group: Fielder, Cano, Puig, McCutchen, Scherzer and Price. Another owner recently approached me about trading his 1st round pick (player pool would be around #60 give or take) for Price. If I didn’t have any other options at SP, I wouldn’t do it, but I have Homer Bailey currently set to be cut. I know you have Bailey six spots higher than Price so it follows suit that I should do the aforementioned deal, but just wanted to get your take on why you’re so low on Price in 2014.

    Great stuff as always. I appreciate it.

  73. bill says:
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    whats good @grey – glad to see youre back at it again. appreciate the advice

    keeper question:
    Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, Util, Px10
    Batters Stat Categories: (R), (HR), (RBI), (SB), (AVG), (OPS)
    Pitchers Stat Categories: (W), (SV), (K), (HLD), (ERA), (WHIP)

    h2h keep 5 players. round chosen is lost and next to their name

    cano – 1
    mccutchen – 1
    j upton – 2
    reyes – 3
    criff ree – 4
    weaver – 4
    darvish – 5
    scherzer – 5
    hanley – 7
    goldschlagger – 7
    lester – 9
    jennings – 19
    v-mart – 20
    j lowrie – 26
    coco – 20
    freeman – 20
    bogaerts – W
    jim henderson – W
    tyson ross – W
    kluber – W
    liriano – W
    salazar – W
    yelich – W

    thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Freeman, Goldy, Hanley, McCutchen, Darvish

      • bill says:
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        @Grey:

        agree 100%. i just got offered a 3rd rounder for Darvish and am considering my options. pitching is deeeeep this year especially…thoughts on taking the offer or not?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Don’t like it

  74. Scandalous Bob says:
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    Am I crazy or did Alejandro De Aza just get moved from the Top 40 Outfielders to the Top 60 Outfielders?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I moved him, was gonna mention it in the next roundup (probably next week)…. I’m concerned about his ABs in that outfield…

  75. Snake Hips says:
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    Which one has the most value in a keeper league for the next 3 years? Manny Machado, Max Scherzer, or Adam Wainwright?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tough call… Machado…

  76. Fish says:
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    Wow. Reading some old Fangraphs posts… 3 of their 4 experts rank Kipnis #1 2nd basemen, even over Cano.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kinda crazy…

      • Fish says:
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        @Grey: Well to be fair, Sarris did say the position is a cesspool after the top 3 and then even made a case for #3 (Pedroia) to be considered questionable with his significant thumb injury from last year.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, agreed on that… Do like Gyorko though

  77. Eddy says:
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    Hey Grey,

    So I wasn’t kidding few weeks ago when I said I’m going to join a $20 Auction league just to own Mike Trout.

    I’ve been trying to realistically build a roster around him, and I put this through the War Room and it performed very well.

    Thoughts on expected prices/roster?

    C- Jason Castro -$4
    1B- Albert Pujols -$22
    2B- Jedd Gyorko-$10
    SS- Andrus-$15
    3B- Nolan Arenado $8
    OF- Mike Trout $63
    OF- Matt Holliday- $23
    OF- Alex Gordon- $15
    Util- Everth Cabrera-$5
    Util- Wil Myers- $18

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pretty funny looking team prices, but I could see that working… You do need to buy a pitching staff too though…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        I meant more that the lopsidedness of it was funny, those prices do seem realistic…

      • Eddy says:
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        @Grey:

        Wait, Trout can’t pitch?

        I’m going off the most recent Yahoo AVG price these guys are going. Want to spend $180 on offense. This is at $183. I can see Gordon, Myers and Gyorko going for a bit higher a month from now though.

  78. SamYo says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Which one is a better keeper Rizzo ($10) or Rios ($10) in a vacuum?

    Thanks as always.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rios

  79. G says:
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    Hey Grey. Wanted to get your opinion on setting up my 12 team H2H league in a keeper format for the first year. How many keepers would you suggest and do you think teams should be able to keep first rounders? Also whats your thoughts on where players you draft this year are drafted the next year – same round or earlier rounds? I know this is all preference and I have some ideas but wondering if you had recommendations. Thanks in advance.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      5 keepers… You should do an auction, but if you do a snake, then they can keep 1st rounders… Players should move up 3 rounds each year…

      • Gbbb says:
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        @Grey: will be doing snake for first year and if then may want to move to auction. So if they move up 3 rounds each year what happens to those players drafted in rounds 1 through 3?

  80. Mark Shockey says:
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    Our league is a 10 team h2h league with 9 pitching spots. We have 6 pitching categorys W, K, S, H, ERA WHIP.
    With holds as a cat is it a good idea to draft all relief pitchers and target the 4 of 6 category s and not worry
    about W and K and spend more on hitting?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It;s one way to go, but it’s dangerous from week to week if your relievers get blew up…

  81. Mark Shockey says:
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    I was considering getting a 3 solid starters and 4 RP (saves), 2 RP (holds) and streaming my starters since we have 3 bench spots. Does this sound like a better plan?
    looking for suggestions as well.

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      If the league is shallow enough for that to work, sure

  82. PeteRosesRevenge says:
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    Grey, thanks for the Blog I followed your rankings, and think I have a pretty good team. What do you think this is a 10 team H2H C B S sports. There was a run on pitchers early hope i got enough but i never thought I would get cabrera, goldschmidt and Harper. I drafted 5th Tanaka Mashahiro was picked 4th.

    I think I have the hitters, hoping to play it week to week w/ the pitchres

    What do you think?

    Cabrera Miguel
    Goldschmidt Paul
    Harper Bryce
    Bautista Jose
    Sanchez Anibal
    Segura Jean
    Jones Adam
    Liriano Francisco
    Moore Matt
    Fister Doug
    Masterson Justin
    Marte Starling
    Romo Sergio
    Lucroy Jonathan
    Gyorko Jedd
    Salazar Danny
    Beltran Carlos
    Kuroda Hiroki
    Utley Chase
    Janssen Casey
    Johnson Josh

    • Grey

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      Your team looks silly great, but it is a 10 team league so there’s gonna be a few teams that are equally good… You should definitely be competitive…

      • PeteRose'sRevenge says:
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        @Grey:

        There are a lot of good teams that is what makes a 10 team league fun you can always find something. I just noticed no one drafted Asche so dropped Josh Johnson and grabbed Asche. Hopefully, he will get hot and be a trade bait for when Chase Headly takes a crap

        It was hard to sit and watch all those pitchers go early but I just kept thinking “Baby Sitters Sweet Sweet can” ! …….in this format your season the draft is a good start but the season is made in the add drop and someone will always make a crazy trade.

        here is the rest of the draft, i think i could have made a couple better choices.. For next year I need to come up with a better way to track who is on and off the board it happens pretty fast.

        Pick LastFirst
        6 Scherzer Max
        15 Beltre Adrian
        26 Bumgarner Madison
        35 Trumbo Mark
        46 Altuve Jose
        55 Nathan Joe
        66 Jansen Kenley
        75 Pence Hunter
        86 Wilson C.J.
        95 Quintana Jose
        106 Samardzija Jeff
        115 Gordon Alex
        126 Hill Aaron
        135 Jennings Desmond
        146 Cabrera Everth
        155 Castro Jason
        166 Estrada Marco
        175 Lynn Lance
        186 Garza Matt
        195 Nova Ivan
        206 Gallardo Yovani

        3 Hernandez Felix
        18 Price David
        23 Zimmermann Jordan
        38 Braun Ryan
        43 Kinsler Ian
        58 Rios Alex
        63 Freeman Freddie
        78 Desmond Ian
        83 Brown Domonic
        98 Zimmerman Ryan
        103 Machado Manny
        118 Wieters Matt
        123 Robertson David
        138 Rodney Fernando
        143 Cashner Andrew
        158 Miller Shelby
        163 Springer George
        178 Calhoun Kole
        183 Miller Brad
        198 Dominguez Matt
        203 Johnson Kelly

        10 Pedroia Dustin
        11 Mauer Joe
        30 Cain Matt
        31 Weaver Jered
        50 Kipnis Jason
        51 Shields James
        70 Wright David
        71 Gonzalez Adrian
        90 Stanton Giancarlo
        91 Molina Yadier
        110 Ryu Hyun-Jin
        111 Simmons Andrelton
        130 Gomez Carlos
        131 Alvarez Pedro
        150 Cespedes Yoenis
        151 Belt Brandon
        170 Buchholz Clay
        171 Castro Starlin
        190 Cishek Steve
        191 Balfour Grant
        210 Hamilton Billy

        2 Kershaw Clayton
        19 Darvish Yu
        22 Gonzalez Carlos
        39 Latos Mat
        42 Teheran Julio
        59 Dickey R.A.
        62 Holland Greg
        79 Ortiz David
        82 Reyes Jose
        99 Werth Jayson
        102 Hosmer Eric
        119 Heyward Jason
        122 Murphy Daniel
        139 Ross Tyson
        142 Headley Chase
        159 Ramos Wilson
        162 Santana Ervin
        179 Gee Dillon
        182 Martinez Victor
        199 Arroyo Bronson
        202 Nolasco Ricky

        7 McCutchen Andrew
        14 Cano Robinson
        27 Tulowitzki Troy
        34 Carpenter Matt
        47 Posey Buster
        54 Corbin Patrick
        67 Medlen Kris
        74 Davis Chris
        87 Johnson Jim
        94 Lester Jon
        107 Burnett A.J.
        114 Griffin A.J.
        127 Grilli Jason
        134 Craig Allen
        147 Cuddyer Michael
        154 Lowrie Jed
        167 Sandoval Pablo
        174 Saltalamacchia Jarrod
        187 Cruz Nelson
        194 Wheeler Zack
        207 Wood Alex

        9 Wainwright Adam
        12 Verlander Justin
        29 Fernandez Jose
        32 Minor Mike
        49 Ellsbury Jacoby
        52 Hamels Cole
        69 Rosenthal Trevor
        72 Chapman Aroldis
        89 Upton Justin
        92 Andrus Elvis
        109 Rizzo Anthony
        112 Butler Billy
        129 Seager Kyle
        132 Jackson Austin
        149 Dozier Brian
        152 Perez Salvador
        169 Jimenez Ubaldo
        172 Niese Jonathon
        189 Soriano Alfonso
        192 Eaton Adam
        209 Straily Dan

        4 Tanaka Masahiro
        17 Sale Chris
        24 Fielder Prince
        37 Encarnacion Edwin
        44 Bailey Homer
        57 Gonzalez Gio
        64 Cole Gerrit
        77 Holliday Matt
        84 Bruce Jay
        97 Soriano Rafael
        104 Gattis Evan
        117 Uehara Koji
        124 Granderson Curtis
        137 Rosario Wilin
        144 Jeter Derek
        157 Phillips Brandon
        164 Frazier Todd
        177 Sabathia CC
        184 Lincecum Tim
        197 Lackey John
        204 Buehrle Mark

        5 Cabrera Miguel
        16 Goldschmidt Paul
        25 Harper Bryce
        36 Bautista Jose
        45 Sanchez Anibal
        56 Segura Jean
        65 Jones Adam
        76 Liriano Francisco
        85 Moore Matt
        96 Fister Doug
        105 Masterson Justin
        116 Marte Starling
        125 Romo Sergio
        136 Lucroy Jonathan
        145 Gyorko Jedd
        156 Salazar Danny
        165 Beltran Carlos
        176 Kuroda Hiroki
        185 Utley Chase
        196 Janssen Casey
        205 Johnson Josh

        1 Trout Mike
        20 Strasburg Stephen
        21 Votto Joey
        40 Ramirez Hanley
        41 Longoria Evan
        60 Cobb Alex
        61 Prado Martin
        80 Cueto Johnny
        81 Choo Shin-Soo
        100 Pujols Albert
        101 Perkins Glen
        120 Myers Wil
        121 McCann Brian
        140 Frieri Ernesto
        141 Howard Ryan
        160 Tillman Chris
        161 Abreu Jose
        180 Archer Chris
        181 Cingrani Tony
        200 Crisp Coco
        201 Papelbon Jonathan

        8 Lee Cliff
        13 Kimbrel Craig
        28 Puig Yasiel
        33 Santana Carlos
        48 Greinke Zack
        53 Kluber Corey
        68 Wacha Michael
        73 Gray Sonny
        88 Zobrist Ben
        93 Donaldson Josh
        108 Victorino Shane
        113 Hardy J.J.
        128 Gomes Yan
        133 Hamilton Josh
        148 Feliz Neftali
        153 Kemp Matt
        168 Peralta Jhonny
        173 Iwakuma Hisashi
        188 Adams Matt
        193 Lohse Kyle
        208 Hunter Torii

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Next year you should get in a deeper league, draft won’t happen as quickly… Even if it’s just 12 teams… Rudy uses an Excel spreadsheet to track picks… Some people use the War Room: http://razzball.com/draft/

          • PeteRose'sRevenge says:
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            @Grey:

            Good Idea thanks, I did actually use Rudy’s sheet it was helpful for sure, I think issue was trying to keep it up to date plus find players in the draft sites window, it throws you when someone picks players way earlier than you expect. I ended up creating an alphabetically list to look up by name to find the ranking when things went off track….I was hunting for Mashahiroo right off the bat!………..

            Anyway thanks for the great info and entertaining site.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

  83. PeteRose'sRevenge says:
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    Grey, thanks for the Blog I followed your rankings, and think I have a pretty good team. What do you think this is a 10 team H2H C B S sports. There was a run on pitchers early hope i got enough but i never thought I would get cabrera, goldschmidt and Harper. I drafted 5th Tanaka Mashahiro was picked 4th.

    I think I have the hitters, hoping to play it week to week w/ the pitchres

    What do you think?

    Cabrera Miguel
    Goldschmidt Paul
    Harper Bryce
    Bautista Jose
    Sanchez Anibal
    Segura Jean
    Jones Adam
    Liriano Francisco
    Moore Matt
    Fister Doug
    Masterson Justin
    Marte Starling
    Romo Sergio
    Lucroy Jonathan
    Gyorko Jedd
    Salazar Danny
    Beltran Carlos
    Kuroda Hiroki
    Utley Chase
    Janssen Casey
    Johnson Joshy/

  84. Dom says:
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    I agree with all of these points 100% I’ve played in a 10 team 5×5 (full roster, two utils, 2SP, 2RP, 4P, 5BN) league H2H for a long time. This was our second keeper year and we increased the max keepers to 7. I had so much great young talent last yr and wanted to keep my whole team! (I came avg. points shy of the title) Well after much stress and deliberation I decided who I would keep based on position scarcity and draft pick lost. I have marked these players with an *asterisk. I usually like to draft young talent with upside. I’ve been known to make wild picks at times with moderate success. Here is my team ( keeper rd lost in parentheses) :
    C Lucroy*(17)
    1B Freeman*(5) Abreu Teixiera
    2B Kinsler*(12) Utley
    3B Headley Lawrie
    SS Desmond*(13)
    OF Puig*(21) Cespedes*(23) Granderson Soriano
    Util V.Martinez

    SP Kershaw*(3) Price Cain Lester Sabathia Archer Corbin

    RP Holland Rosenthal

    I didn’t really get the youth I typically want but I fairly pleased. I think I got some consistant guys and some with great upside. Opinions? Thoughts? Constructive criticism?
    Thanks! Game on!

  85. Brian England says:
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    How many SP/RP would you draft in a 12 tm H2H Yahoo league with the following criteria?

    C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL

    20 IP min weekly & only 5 moves allowed per week

    Thanks Brian
    Glad to see I can post now. Appreciate fixing the issue.

  86. Jon Mesker says:
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    First time caller! Hey Grey, et al! Love the site and I think you offer the best analysis and breakdown in the industry. I am in an Espn auction dynasty/keeper league, 5×5 head to head format and would like your advice, if you would oblige? The salary cap is $260 and I am allowed to keep any 8 players (see list below). Additionally, there is a weekly 5 start minimum for SP and we utilize K/9 rather than strikeouts. The keeper salaries will remain the same for the career of the player. My proposed keepers are: Miggy $37, Goldy $1, Chris Davis $14, Longo $30, Wil Myers $5, Wainwright $1, Kimbrel $10 and Cobb $2. I’m also a Rays’ homer, so my objectivity is sometimes jaded :-) Would you do anything different (maybe Craig for $1, instead of Cobb? Or Miller for $1, instead of Cobb $2?). Also, I have a potential opportunity to trade Longo $30 and Allen Craig $1 for Billy Hamilton $1 and Archie Bradley $1 or Sonny Gray $1. Would you entertain such an offer, considering the league’s dynasty dynamics? Thanks for your fantastical aptitude and advice!

    KEEP SAL SLOT PLAYER, TEAM POS
    1 C Salvador Perez, KC C
    14 1B Chris Davis, Bal 1B K
    1 2B Neil Walker, Pit 2B
    37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det 3B K
    18 SS Elvis Andrus, Tex SS
    10 2B/SS Alexei Ramirez, CWS SS
    30 1B/3B Evan Longoria, TB 3B K
    1 OF Allen Craig, StL 1B, OF
    7 OF Carl Crawford, LAD OF
    5 OF Wil Myers, TB OF K
    2 OF Denard Span, Wsh OF
    1 OF Kole Calhoun, LAA OF
    1 UTIL Paul Goldschmidt, Ari 1B K DTD
    2 Bench Desmond Jennings, TB OF
    9 Bench Kyle Seager, Sea 3B
    1 Bench Adam Lind, Tor 1B, DH
    DL
    PITCHERS
    KEEP SAL SLOT PLAYER, TEAM POS
    10 P Craig Kimbrel, Atl RP K
    1 P Adam Wainwright, StL SP K
    3 P Fernando Rodney, Sea RP
    1 P Shelby Miller, StL SP
    1 P Chris Archer, TB SP
    23 P Cliff Lee, Phi SP
    6 P Steve Cishek, Mia RP
    1 P Danny Farquhar, Sea RP
    2 P Alex Cobb, TB SP K
    10 DL Bobby Parnell, NYM RP DTD

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I like Cobb a lot, but Craig at a dollar over Cobb at $2… If you don’t do that trade, which I like for you… I’d go Hamilton/Bradley

      • Jon Mesker says:
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        Ok, thanks. So you would pull the trigger on the Longo $30 and Craig $1 for Hamilton $1 and Archie Bradley $1? And then I would have Bradley, Wainwright and Kimbrel as my keepers, right? Thanks again for your help!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  87. Sean says:
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    In a yahoo 12 team standard roster head to head league with C, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, SS, 3 OF, 2 Utility, 2 SP, 2 RP, 4 P, and 5 bench. This is a weekly lineup change with no games or IP limits. Due to the limited amount of streaming that can be done, would you lean more towards drafting SP early or would you still wait and draft a lot of them. For example, if I took 5 bats first and then took Homer Bailey as my 1st SP in the 6th or Alex Cobb, would that be wise in this format? Would you still wait til the 10th rd. to grab a closer, and how many closers would you try and grab? Should I grab a top 10 sp in the 3rd round instead?

    • Grey

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      I’d wait until Bailey… I’d try for 2 closers, no more than 3…

  88. Sean says:
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    Thanks!

  89. jim says:
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    Grey please help. Been reading your stuff for years and love it. I am in a 14 team yahoo head to head league and have a snake draft this saturday. The hitting categories are: hr, r, rbi, sb, avg, ops, tb, hits. The pitching categories are: w, sv, hold, k, whip, era, relief wins, quality starts. The positions are: c, 1b, 2b, 3b ss , 4 x of, 2 x util, mi, ci, 6 starting sp, 4 starting rp, 6 bench, 2 DL. Lineups are set weekly. Can you please give me some ideas in terms of how to approach a draft with a format like this? looking for some sleepers and value adds for a format like this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

      • jim says:
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        @Grey: Thanks Grey. In a format like this, which round would you suggest me beginning to go after SP? I was thinking on waiting a while, but not sure.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Take followups to my newest post about 3rd baseman… Don’t know the lead-up to this question cause I’m on my phone…

  90. Sean says:
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    First year doing head to head, this is the team I drafted. Tried following the above strategies the best I could. This is a 12 team yahoo H2H with weekly lineup changes. Let me know where I went wrong cause I’m drafting again real soon. Thanks!
    C Yan Gomes
    1B Goldsmchidt
    2B. Aaron Hill
    SS. Desmond
    3B. Profar (2b, 3b, ss)
    OF. Bruce
    OF. Choo
    OF. Beltran
    UTL. Fielder
    UTL. Aoki
    SP Bailey
    SP. Cobb
    RP. Reed
    RP. Rodney
    P. Minor
    P. Liriano
    P. Grey
    P. Wheeler

    Bench
    OF. Yelich
    Bogearts(3b, ss)
    SP. Kluber
    SP. Josh Johnson
    SP. Porcello

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You didn’t go wrong, team looks solid, probably a tad light on speed, but I don’t mind that in H2H…

  91. Sean says:
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    Glad to hear that, thanks Grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

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