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The Mets went into their minor league system and pulled a giant rabbit out of their hat with Matt Harvey.  *terrible Jimmy Stewart impression*  Mr. Potter, I knew a Harvey once.    Back in 1955, see, and Danny Kaye asked me to sneak this guy named Harvey out of his bedroom at 2 AM.  Nice fella, that Harvey.  He told me a story that involved Ethel Merman and ping pong balls.  Good, salt of the earth guy, that Harvey.  So, yesterday, Harvey went five innings and 10 Ks.  Tomorrow, the world!  Or just icing his arm and joking around with Ruben Tejada.  One of those.   I’m a big fan of Harvey, but he only has one more start this year (you would’ve owned him yesterday if you followed the Stream-o-Nator), so let’s talk about him for next year.  Thanks, clunky segue!  In Triple-A, he had nearly a 4 walk rate.  Of course, a 9+ K-rate makes a lot of that fade away, and he’s continuing that in the majors this year.  Eventually, he could fill into a number two fantasy starter.  At some point, when he’s done surprising hitters with his stuff, he will need to adapt, but for next year he could be a sneaky backend starter that surprises a lot of people.  *end Jimmy Stewart voice*  Wait, you didn’t do that whole thing as Jimmy Stewart?  Start again!  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

David Wright – 2-for-4, 2 steals.  I can’t hate on a guy that gives two unexpected steals during H2H playoff week.  Though I can hate on him if he’s going against me in a H2H playoff.  Who lit a fire under your ass?  Drew Barrymore playing Charlie McGee?  Hello, 30-year-old reference, can I interest you in some ESPN Classic?

Ryan Zimmerman – 1-for-2 with his 22nd homer.   Or 19 in the last two months after I dropped him.  You couldn’t cortisone in effin’ April?!

Ian Desmond – 2-for-3 with his 23rd homer, now hitting .295.  Wow, he’s gonna be overrated next year.  Yike-a-roos, as they say Down Under about rabid kangaroos.

Drew Storen – Stop picking at the carcass, save vultures, Storen got the two-pitch save yesterday because Clippard pitched the previous two days.

Brandon Phillips – 2-for-4 and he stole a base off of Jared Hughes.  Hughes muttered, “Figured he’d steal off me,” then Phillips got pissed off again.

J.J. Hoover – Dusty Baker said before the Reds game that he’d go to Broxton for saves, so J.J. Hoover got yesterday’s save opportunity.  *shakes fist at the sky* Dusty!  It might’ve just been because Broxton had pitched the two previous days, or maybe it was Dusty being Dusty or maybe Dusty’s just got a natural inclination for a guy that sounds like he could clean up a mess.

Anthony Rizzo – Sat out yesterday’s game after his collision with Brett Wallace on Tuesday night.  Rizzo should be good to go by Friday, which means tomorrow, jerky!

Alfonso Soriano – 3-for-4 with his 29th homer.  That means there’s been at least 29 times a Cubs fan has said, “Yeah, but he still has a terrible contract.”

Dave Sappelt – 3-for-3 and 6 for his last 10.  He has a bit of speed, but he’s only worth looking at in deep NL-Only leagues because the Cubs outfield is like a clown car.  Every time you think it’s empty, another three outfielders fall out.

Logan Forsythe – 1-for-3 with his 2nd homer this week while batting over .350.  Logan’s run this past week has been so good they should rename it Hunger Games and cast Josh Hutcherson to play him.

Ricky Romero – 4 IP, 3 ER, ERA at 5.87.  Right now, he’s like Apollo vs. Drago and Rocky’s just holding the stupid towel in his stupid hand.  Throw the towel, Rock!

Kyle Seager – 3-for-5 for the 2nd day in a row and the previous two games came with a side of dingers.  He now has 18 homers on the year with 81 RBIs and 13 steals.  According to our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater, the 8th through 10th most valuable 3rd basemen go Wright, Zimmerman then Seager.  And Seager did all of that against the wind.

Jason Hammel – Having an MRI done on his knee today and could be out the rest of the season.  May as well call this guy Jason Hobble…AM I RIGHT?!  Or Broken Hummel…RIGHT?!  What, ma?  I’m not hungry!  I’m doing my fantasy baseball roundup!  Geez!

Nate McLouth – 2-for-5, run, RBI and now hitting near .400 over the last week.  There is nothing to see here long term, but there’s what?  20 games left?  Who cares about long term? Hot schmotato, come and get it!

J.J. Putz – Hernandez got the save yesterday and is the closer of the moment because Putz is sidelined with stiffness.  I thought that would be a good thing for Putz.

Tim Lincecum – 6 IP, 3 ER, 10 baserunners, 8 Ks and the win in Coors.  He said after the game he loves pitching a Mile High.

Marco Scutaro – 3-for-5, 2 runs, 2 RBIs and his 9th steal.  Has been in Coors for the last three games (7-for-14) but even before that he was hitting (3.14 in August, ~.350 in September).   I don’t love him, but for a short hot spell, I’d grab him in the non-sexual way.

Angel Pagan – Didn’t start yesterday due to a lacerated hand.  Sounds like he was making a fruit slushie.  Oh, wait, that’s macerated.  I should’ve been a doctor!

Wilin Rosario – 2-for-4, 2 RBIs and his 24th homer.  I get the sense that people aren’t going to pay him much mind next year either.  Kinda like Napoli until he exploded in Texas.  It’s something about a low average that just scares people.

Andrelton Simmons – Out a couple of days with a sprained ankle.  Still haven’t heard of one sprained cankle.  Everyone should have cankles.  You messed up, God!

Cliff Lee – 7 IP, 0 ER, 5 baserunners, 6 Ks.  The Adverb got through the Marlins like a subject and a predicate, and he finally got a win to bring his record to 5-7, which is also Pedroia in high heels.

Desmond Jennings – Missed yesterday but said he’s gonna be good to go on Thursday.  From his mouth to God’s ears, which is Giancarlo’s ears.

Ben Francisco – 2-for-4, an RBI as he started for Jennings.  The coldest winter I ever experienced was a summer I owned Ben Francisco.

B.J. Upton – 1-for-4 with a slam (22) and legs (30) pretty much encapsulates dear, sweet B.J.  Now call a phone sex line and have them read that last line to you.

Jaime Garcia – The Cards considered shuffling their rotation due to Garcia’s road struggles, but realized the rotation was written in non-erasable ink so Garcia’s going on Saturday.  Fingers crossed, Hi-me!

Matt Carpenter – 2-for-4, 2 RBIs with his fifth homer.  He’s hitting .305 on the year (in 246 ABs), but hasn’t shown much power…anywhere in his career, really.  He’s more of an on base specialist, which I don’t remember ever being a part of MLB commercials.  “Chicks dig the walk?”  Um, not really.

Corey Hart – Out until Saturday or Sunday with plantar fasciitis, which is commonly known as Gardener’s Toe.

Denard Span – 3-for-5, 2 runs as he was activated from the DL.  I’d grab him if I needed some average, runs and speed.  He told Twins reporters that he was going to steal 45 bases next week.  Wait, that was his brother, Canard.  ***balloons fall from Razzball HQ***  With the use of “canard,” I’ve now used every word in the English language at least once.

Andy Pettitte – Will return next week and be immediately inserted into the Yankees rotation.  If your staff is hard up, then Pettitte.  Hehe, that’s dirty.

Ivan Nova – Will take over Freddy Garcia’s rotation spot.  Is it me or are the Yankees juggling their rotation like they’re rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?

Melky Mesa – Called up by the Yanks.  If you put Melky Mesa through The Wire translator, his name translates to “Drugs On The Table.”

Curtis Granderson – 2-for-5, 3 RBIs and 2 homers, his 36th and 37th.  He’s now batting .235.  I think we’ve reached the point where he was officially overrated in the preseason when people were drafting him at the end of the 2nd round, but it sure did take a long time to come to that conclusion and if he hits 10 homers in the last week and gets his average up to .250… Well…

Derek Jeter – 2-for-5 and 1 run, but left yesterday’s game with a left ankle bone bruise.  He said he’ll play on Thursday.  Frequent commenter, Cole, said, “I read the Yanks won, but lost Jeter.  Did they check A-Rod’s bed?”

Max Scherzer – 6 IP, 1 ER, 4 baserunners (0 BBs), 7 Ks, lowering his ERA to 3.77 to go along with 220 Ks in 176 2/3 IP.  Yeah, that’s really good.  Next year, I’ll be drafting him, but owning him really is like the “How crazy are you?” test when you hold your hand over a lit match and see how long you can keep it there.

Kevin Youkilis – 2-for-4, 4 RBIs with a pair of homers.  He said after the game that was one more pair than Bobby Valentine has.  Let it go already, Youk!

Rickie Weeks – 2-for-5, 3 RBIs and his 2nd homer in as many games.  He’s out to spite every owner who dropped him at the ASB when he was hitting .199 with 8 homers.

Adrian Beltre – 1-for-1 with yet another homer, but then he left the game with a sore left shoulder.  He’s going to get an MRI on said shoulder and if all his owners join together in a giant prayer triangle, he will be okay.  I don’t own him anywhere so I kinda hope he misses some time.  Sorry, I’m a bad person.

Josh Hamilton – 1-for-4, 2 runs, 2 RBIs and his 41st homer and 121st RBIs, but he’s day-to-day with knee soreness.  He also won the AL MVP yesterday.  Sorry, Mike Trout.  I love your car’s bumper, but I think you’re gonna have to settle for AL Rookie of the Year.  Not too shabby.  That was enough for Angel Berroa.

A.J. Griffin – 8 IP, 0 ER, 6 baserunners, 6 Ks.  Well, hello there, Mr. Alfredo Jettucini.  It is nice to meet your acquaintance.  I like how you flatten your opponents like your pasta.

Yoenis Cespedes – 1-for-4 with a slam (18) and legs (16).  Not too terrible of a first year for the Cuban raftee, but his numbers have definitely surprised in a few ways.  I didn’t think he’d bat over .280 and I thought he’d have more power and a bit less speed.  So he basically has the same value I thought he’d have just in different ways.  Grey Hedge App is installed.

Ryan Cook – Got yesterday’s save, but I think that had more to do with the fact there was no save into the 9th inning until Doolittle gave up Pujols’s 30th homer.   Sounds like someone found a prune recipe.  You know the Cook saved the day when Pujols hit Doolittle.

Jarrod Saltalamacchia – 3-for-3, 2 runs and his 24th homer.  See what I said about Wilin Rosario and add twelve consonants.

Dustin Pedroia – Left the game because his wife went into labor.  He never even had sex with his wife.  His spunk is so powerful that it doesn’t require vaginal penetration.

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  1. Ray says:
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    Drop Frazier for Pacheco, Caroenter or Chris Johnson?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ray, Pacheco

      • Abdoozy says:
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        @Grey, COL is @SD and @SF this week. You still like Pacheco as a speculative pickup at corner infidel?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, but I don’t know your other options…

  2. papasmurf says:
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    For streamers, I think almost everyone going vs. HOU should be considered. I picked up Travis Wood and got a gem, before tossing him back into the wind.

    It was made extra sweet because I dropped Maholm to get him. The 2nd place team picked up Maholm and inexplicably went with him vs. a righty-heavy lineup instead of using Cahill vs. LAD.

    Talk about a Trojan Horse!

    For one day, it was good to be a smurf. =D

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @papasmurf, Nicely done! Yeah, vs. the Lastros is ideal in almost all scenarios…

  3. Wake Up says:
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    Allegedly, his wife likes her ankles bitten…

    • @Wake Up, Marv Albert fixed them up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up, HA!

  4. Wilsonian says:
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    Rosario or McCann?

    Uggla still worth holding onto?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wilsonian, Wilin…No…

  5. Deadwoods says:
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    Nelson Cruz is 1/19 over the past seven days with an OBP of .100. I might make it into the semi finals carrying him in the BN spot, but I’ll get slaughtered next week by a team a strong offense that I’ve never beaten. At what point do I cut him and stream hot batters? Thanks

    • @Deadwoods, i’d base it on how many home games he has for the week. the more home games the better. also look at prob pitchers and see if he’s facing a disproportionate amount of lefties. but if there’s a better option out there, feel free to cut him…

  6. rainbowtrout says:
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    Need to lose one for a streamer spot:
    Cashner
    Medlen
    Alfredo Jettucini
    Brett Anderson
    Doug Fister

    Or should I just ride out gangnam style to the ‘ship with those 5 plus dickey and price?

    Pretty comfortable lead in 6×5 roto, 110 to 2nd place’s 89

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @rainbowtrout, Anderson

  7. Wake Up says:
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    I been kicked by the wind, driven by the snow
    Drunk and dirty and don’t you know
    I’m still
    Wilin Rosario…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up, That’s sexy…

  8. Leeor says:
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    I am in the playoffs now and am in a crunch with some players. Please give me some advice.
    I have been in first place all season long and just have to win this year.
    I just dropped Michael Morse in favor of hardy. I have plenty of OF. (braun, mccutchen, adam jones, willingham, hunter) and we start 5 OF

    I just dropped Lester in favor of Kendrick (almost picked up minor but i have medlen and I can always drop kendrick for minor since they pitch saturday and sunday).

    Main question… Should I drop Sandoval? He is on my bench right now and I am not sure what he can do the rest of the way.
    I was thinking of having no bench hitter and picking up another pitcher. Frieri is actually available so I can get him to get more pitching stats. H2H with 6 categories in batting and 6 in pitching.

    Also available are Wilhelmson, Casilla, Romo, Jansen

    Please help me out ASAP! Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Leeor, Sure, lose him if he’s a bench bat… Grab Frieri…

  9. mhfella says:
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    Stream has Kendrick @ Houston just 98. Should I override?

    Brett Anderson finally going against a good offense (@ LAA). Close battle in whip and era. Would you hesitate?

    Awesome Samuel Clemens reference!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @mhfella, Thanks! I’d go with Kendrick there and Anderson…

  10. mhfella says:
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    And I know he supposedly never even said it.

    One more: who would you start near term, Espinosa or Hardy?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @mhfella, Hardy

  11. Dale Gribble says:
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    Hey Grey – two questions:

    1. How do you feel about Wainwright? For a few weeks there I thought he was back to his old form but his last couple starts have me feeling otherwise. Would you continue to roll him out blindly going forward or is it time to start being cautious with him?

    2. I’m monitoring my start limit for the rest of the season and ERA/WHIP is tight. Starting Weaver tonight vs OAK?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dale Gribble, 1. Depends on his matchups 2. Yup

  12. Poo Holes says:
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    As I mentioned yesterday, I’m trying to dump either Ike the Dike or Car-Gome for a live bat. Not the flying sonar creature, but someone actually hitting. I had mentioned Wieters, but also available are Morneau, Forsythe, Cain, Seager, Mayberry, Moss, Machado, Mike Young, and others. I’m leading homers by one and down in RBI by 7 so I’m looking for a middle of the order masher.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Poo Holes, Seager for now…

  13. later tater says:
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    hello grey,

    podcast was good as always; not many left :(

    need 13 sb or 13 hr to move up 1pt in those categories

    thinking about dropping beltran for sagnof base stealer (maybe denard span, adam eaton or wewayne) with 20 games left, if beltran hits 5 hr’s, thats awesome (and probably *not* happening) but if a sagnof gets 5 sb in 20 games, that’s a bit more realistic.

    so, drop beltran for a sagnof (denard span, adam eaton)? (already have evercab, rajai, c gomez, aoki per your advice and have moved up in pts)

    thanks a lot

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @later tater, Thanks… Nope, there’s not… Yeah, lose him for Eaton…

  14. Cole says:
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    Thanks for putting me in the round-up grey! Made my day.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cole, Ha, no problem… Was funny…

  15. HotRod says:
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    Lynn vs. LAD or Harrell vs. PHI today??

    • papasmurf says:
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      @HotRod, Harrell.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @HotRod, Harrell

  16. JB says:
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    This was a no-brainer about a month and a half ago, and I know it’s too damn early to be thinking about this, but am I crazy to now be thinking that Medlen is creeping into the keeper conversation – possibly over Bumgarner?? I typed that with wide round eyes and a raised unibrow while biting my toenails, cuz I needed my fingers to type, and my fingernails are not detachable, like some other part of my body.

    • JB says:
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      @JB, By the way, thanks for all that you do – First Place in my private, shallow roto league, Second place in my deep head-to-head league (but my team has been heads and tails above everyone else since the ASB and I’m killing it in the playoffs so far), and Second place in my RCL league.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JB, Nice, glad to help… I’d want Bum over Medlen…

  17. Schmohawks Bob says:
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    Are you or is anybody else selling those Trout images as a bumper sticker? I want ten of them to put on everything I own, and every other car in my neighborhood.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Schmohawks Bob, Ha… We should be selling them…

  18. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    would that make Pedroia a SPUNKy Ankleshooter?

    You catch up on the Voice auditions yet? we watched all 3 episodes last night with a lot of fast forwarding through some of the back story segments.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jack Full of Hate, HA! Nice… Yeah, I watched the last two nights… Missed first night, but I’m good… I think the Nigerian last night was my favorite, haven’t been blown away yet though (unless I’m forgetting someone)….

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey, I don’t know the waitress was pretty hot and had some pipes on her. You missed the first night? that was the best one. I know they will replay it on E! or one of those entertainment channels, they did last year. So you didn’t get to see the other west african kid who is on Cee-Lo’s team?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          The waitress? The guy from the boy band? I missed the first night, but will watch On Demand at some point… I thought the black girl hippie was pretty, but I don’t remember any hot ones…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey, hippy chick was very pretty head on, but her profile was aight. You know she does some Tantra crazy sex thing that will drain all the life out of you… The waitress was the chick in the white dress with the black hair who is on Christina’s team. looks like she carries around a couple of hams in her dress, you know where her ass is suppose to be

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              So I rest up the day before…Let’s have a go at it! The waitress was hot, forgot she was a waitress… Just remembered she was kidnapped or something…

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Grey, her mom was kidnapped…you’ll give that hippy chick a mustache ride and a little Touch of Grey.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, she’s pretty fine, but I can’t imagine how she is only 35 years old… The cougar and I called BS on that…

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey, have you ever seen people that have done a lot of acid…they look a lot older than they should. what no, ha at the touch of grey comment, did you miss the grateful dead joke there?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Nah, I got both references… Yeah, I never touched any of that, but had some friends in high school that did and they look like they could be my parents, so I see what you’re saying…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, I’m sorry, my all time worst fantasy year has really put me on edge, made me gain weight and killed my confidence. I drink more and have become lazy and depressed. Fantasy baseball is like a woman, there when you’re good, gone when your not.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Or like liquor… I got fantasy baseball muscles!

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, I got so drunk i told everyone I was going to kick their ass with Hosmer at 1st, Ackley at 2nd, Aybar at SS, and Pedro at 3rd.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Sounds like me, but I wasn’t drunk…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, thats the sad part, what would your fantasy baseball beer muscles have put together?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      About 3,000 lbs. in fantasy benched above my head…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, so just Billy Butler’s moobies?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha! Just the right moob…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, no hallucinogens of any type?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Eh, I did shrooms one time, but didn’t love it and never went back for anything harder or similar…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, I loved the shrooms, but that is one of those things where an urban area is not the best idea. I did that alot when I was in Chico, but hey, when in Rome…. X was fun, nice if you’re with a lady and not so much with the hommies.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, never went near X… I’ve always been in urban areas, so can’t speak to that… Car horns are my crickets…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Grey, I liked looking to see whats on the other side and see through people

  19. All Braun No Brains says:
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    I have 35 innings left I have verlander, Kershaw, and Medlen. The Son says Verlander is only average today against the sox but I hate sitting him because how good he is should I pass on his start today? Also with Beltre and Hamilton banged up is it worth getting Olt and Martin.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @All Braun No Brains, I’d start Verlander everywhere… Not really worth grabbing those Rangers unless you’re in a very deep AL-Only league…

  20. jp says:
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    first round of the playoffs (H2H, mixed league, categories), and i’ve struggled this week already. with hamilton potentially sitting w/ knee soreness need to pick up a FA. Available OF: Cain, Gose, Denorfia, Maxwell, McLouth, Maybin, Rasmus, Belt, Moss..which one do you like for the weekend incase Josh sits?

    C- Doumit
    1B – LaRoche
    2B – Phillips
    3B – Longoria
    SS – Reyes
    OF – Hamilton
    OF – Cruz
    OF – B Upton
    Util – Reynolds
    no Bench

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @jp, McLouth…

  21. TheNewGuy says:
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    Would you start Skaggs tommorow in a 16 teamer in the H2H playoffs? Currently behind in ERA and WHIP anyway (winning hitting cats) and tied in W’s and K’s, so thought he might be a decent gamble.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TheNewGuy, I wouldn’t…

      • TheNewGuy says:
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        @Grey, Chris Young, Leake or Porcello any better? Or should I just ditch that spot for a MR and ride out 6 starters.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @TheNewGuy, Sure, slightly better, but I don’t know their matchups…

  22. Wilsonian says:
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    What about Cruz and Reynolds, still worth a shot? Guys like Hunter, Soriano, Aoki, Cain, etc, are still available.

    Pick three for the rest of the season:

    Nolasco, Fister, Ervin, Alfredo Jetuccine, D. Hernandez, Perkins, Burnett, Cahill, Anibal.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wilsonian, I’d go with Aoki over Cruz… Nolasco, Griffin, Fister…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        That’s if I needed average, runs and speed instead of power…

        • Wilsonian says:
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          @Grey, I got the power. I have nothing else. Would you hang on to Rios and Reynolds over any of those other guys? Our playoffs start next week. Looks like I’m in, but I want to have the best squad going in.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            I’d hang onto Rios, I’d look at Mini Donkey on Sunday if he’s cold all week…

  23. OaktownSteve says:
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    Grey you crazy, man. Still fighting the Granderson battle? The Grandyman can! Right now he’s #36 overall in the Razz-Rater. Of the guys ahead of him 17 are pitchers. Of the remaining, only 11 non-pitchers were ranked higher than Granderson in your pre-season rankings.

    Looking at it another way, of the 31 non-pitchers you ranked ahead of Granderson in your pre-season rankings, 20 have performed below Granderson. Given the fail rate for early draft picks and Granderson’s current ranking in the top 3 rounds, you could easily call a 2nd round pick spent on Granderson a relative success.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m having a hard time with that when I hear about people dropping him or wanting to drop him… A 2nd round pick shouldn’t be considered for dropping unless seriously hurt…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey, at this point in the season you’re dropping Grandy only if you think you can make up ground in avg. Which is a purely tactical move. But on the counting stat front you’ve gotten 2nd round or better numbers from him on the season already. As you yourself said, it’s the time of the season when anybody can get cut but that doesn’t mean the draft pick was misspent. What I said above is not refuted by the fact that “people are talking about dropping him.” That’s just circumstantial.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, agreed with dropping him now, but I’m talking about the people who wanted to drop him last month… When he was hitting .196 and ~.210 in the 2nd half… He’s the 11th ranked OF, it’s not bad, it’s not 2nd round numbers… Also, don’t think we can say he’s 2nd round numbers because other players who were drafted in the 2nd round weren’t 2nd round numbers… That’s just as circumstantial…

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey, What I’m saying is that are there 24 players who were being considered plausible first rounders pre-season who have out performed Granderson. The answer is no. By my count, there are only 13 players who were ranked in your pre-season top 50 who are higher than Granderson in the Razz-Rater. So not only would he have made a good 2nd round pick, he’s close to a first rounder when comparted to those who were potential 2nd round picks pre-season.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I think we’re splitting hairs, because I don’t think he’s been a bust by any stretch of the imagination… I just don’t see how he’s given anyone 2nd round numbers that they were expecting from him…

              • OaktownSteve says:
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                @Grey, I don’t think we are splitting hairs. I think the point is, when you draft pre-season you have a group of players that you are slotting in each round. The measure of success in the draft is how that player performs relative to other players that you might realistically have drafted in that slot. Per your own rankings, only 13 players ranked top 50 pre-season have out performed Granderson. Therefore, a second round pick for Granderson was a success.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Well, if we’re going by the letter of my rankings, I had him 38th overall and he’s currently ranked 36th on our player rater… I saw the dip in average and counting stats and said he wasn’t his 2011 stats…

                  • OaktownSteve says:
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                    @Grey, Good ranking, by the way. Pre-season. Pretty spot on. Fact of the matter is, if you picked him in the second round of the draft this year, you did well relative to how your competetors did in the second round on average. To say that he hasn’t put up second round numbers isn’t really relevant to whether he was over rated preseason. He definitely has justified the pick.

                    I would say that pre-season, when you look at your early rounds, you kind of want to hold serve. There’s not a lot of upside in those early rounds. Obviously the runs and RBIs were going to fall back for Granderson. The runs were historically high in 2011. The question was, at those regressed numbers, how would he fare against others in the same draft tier? And the answer is, he has fared well.

                    Now for next year, he’s not a second rounder because he will not slot as a second rounder and you’ll get him later. And you’ll point out, as your rightly do, the yo-yo based on stat recency. He may even show up on your underrated depending on how the marketplace treats him (course he is a Yankee so that makes undervalue a little less likely).

                    The main thing with Granderson that justified a second round pick was understanding that the talent level and the scouting based analysis suggested that he would not fall off the table and he has not.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Agreed… If I drafted Miggy and Stanton in the first two rounds, I did okay… If I grabbed Grandy in the third, I did great…But if I grabbed Longoria and Ellsbury, then Grandy looks a lot better in the 2nd with Hamilton in the third…

                    • OaktownSteve says:
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                      @Grey, ‘zactly. Good to see you, ‘stache. Haven’t been around much lately.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m all up in here, yo…

  24. Deadwoods says:
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    Rosario or S. Perez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Perez, it’s a toss up…

  25. Pokey Reese says:
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    First week of playoffs (2 weeks playoff) is next week in my h2h league.

    I have A Chapman and picked up Broxton as of late.

    For next week would you start Chapman, Bronxton, Axford, or Mike Gonzalez on a two start @sea & @bos?

    Muchas gracias!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Mike G, unless you need saves, then Axford…

  26. herschel says:
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    @Grey: roto league coming down to the wire and close in all offensive categories. you ok with starting solano over lawrie?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I’m okay with it…

  27. Mark says:
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    Drop Reynolds or Frazier for Soriano?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Frazier

  28. nyydj2 says:
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    Need a touch of Grey in my H2H playoff battle. well ahead in ratios but could use a W and some K’s.

    Anibal the Stat Cannibal @ Cleveland
    or
    Cashner home vs. Colo ?

    • nyydj2 says:
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      @nyydj2, Duh, I checked the SON. Cashner it is. Thank you sir.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        No problem…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cashner

  29. Deadwoods says:
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    Niese is in a six man rotation. A.J. Griffin isn’t. Should I drop Niese for Griffin. Or hold? Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go for it…

  30. Prezii says:
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    I cant get the SON to show pitchers for specific days only. Is that my phone or is streamz a little sick today?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s working for me… Put in 9/17 and Monday shows up…

      • Prezii says:
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        @Grey, it was my phone! Crisis avoided….

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Whew…

  31. BERK says:
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    I dropped Youk earlier in the year when he was on the DL/sucking & now he’s on my opponent’s roster in h2h playoff week! Also my whole team is sucking this week, but the Youuuuuuuuk, it buuuuuuuuuuuuuurns!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… Dah…

  32. Deadwoods says:
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    Sorry, one more today.

    Straily or Niese?

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Straily

  33. Melvin Emanuel says:
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    @Grey

    Need a streamer for tomorrow. Guy I’m facing in h2h is streaming 1-2 pitchers a day to catch up in k’s and wins. Please rank the top 2 options…

    De Vries v. CWS
    Norris v. PHI
    Kelly @ LAD
    Skaggs v. ARI
    Laffey v. BOS

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      De Vries, Norris…

  34. Mark says:
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    I am about to blow the lead in my roto league and lose out on 300 bucks. Was up 45 in july. How do I heal this wound?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Drop that guy and grab that other guy…

  35. Prezii says:
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    Drop beckett for fiers at home vs the mets tomorrow? SON has him at 120..

    • Carnac says:
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      @Prezii, Definitely. You could probably drop Beckett for Dontrelle Willis and still be better off.

      • Prezii says:
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        @Carnac, ehh hes been decent since his move to LA.. and hes surprisingly %70 owned.. but yeah i feel it, he goneeeee!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, go for it…

      • Prezii says:
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        @Grey, i got meds, kershaw, cliffy, fiers, cashner, edwin… All 120 or higher..

        * daps the son up one time *

        • Prezii says:
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          Watch em all get shelled! Haha

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d be most concerned about Edwin and Fiers, but I would still start them… You guys dap after they pitch well, aight?

          • Prezii says:
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            @Grey, no doubt.. all three of us will dap! We’ll have a dap circle! Circle of dapping!! Haha

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I like that, but I’d consider a triangle of dapping… Has to do with the triangle of the Fantasy Gods as laid down by Dan Brown and Ron Shandler…

              • Prezii says:
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                @Grey, ur right grey.. you cant really make a friggin circle with 3 guys anyway… I should study my shapes! We will all gangnam style in a triangle facing the east… Gangnam style, while dapping!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Triangle is the natural shape of imaginary horses gallop too… C’mon, man!

  36. #1contenda says:
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    yo greyman,

    what you thinking for frazier next year son?

    20/75 guy?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That looks slightly conservative…25/85

      Respeckt

      • #1contenda says:
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        @Grey, respeckt.

  37. royce! says:
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    I haven’t found time to get through the entire podcast, so maybe you all figured this out before it ended, but I think the proper pronunciation is “Giancarlo, Mi Amore.”

    Also, Sal Perez over Doumit?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He sometimes just goes by Mi Amore… Yeah, I’d go Perez…

  38. Deadwoods says:
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    I always thought that the definition of a mini donkey was a short woman with a big butt. But I digress.

    Mini Donkey is now 0/12 over the last 4 days. Am I worried? NO SIREE! Nope. Not a bit. Nope. Nope…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha! Yeah, I’m worried too… See, I see what you were doing there…

    • Wilsonian says:
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      @Deadwoods, yeah, he’s about to hit the wire for the old man Soriano. He’s a Great Zombino!

  39. Steve says:
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    The only thing that makes the day that Longo is having OK, is that my opponent has Hardy.

    Which means we’re neck-and-neck in the race to the bottom.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Damn…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, Not unhappy to see Wieters strike out there…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not happy to see Reynolds go his usual cold self…

  40. Carnac says:
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    A: Sounds like my last 6 Friday nights.

    Q: How about BJ? 0 for 6 with 3 strikeouts.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA! Nice…

  41. Steve says:
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    Need a Kazaam here for Jepsen…

  42. Grey's da man! says:
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    You think M Reynolds run is over? Time to drop him again?

    • Grey's da man! says:
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      @Grey’s da man!, replacements are Jay, Solano, Pablo (just dropped), reddick, colvin

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m gonna hold until Sunday… But it looks like it’s winding down… I’d go with Colvin from those…

  43. Cole says:
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    I guess Putz’s stiffness was normal at first but it lasted more than 4 hours so he had to seek immediate medical attention

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, exactly…

  44. Sam says:
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    Need to drop a bat for a streamer… who gets the axe: Cain, Moustakas, Rizzo or Colvin? I need RBIs more than anything.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cain

  45. Steve says:
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    Man, that Red Sox lineup looks horrible.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, really miserable… Not sure who they’re going to get in the offseason either…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, A team worth streaming against if they’re on the road? Esp while the Anklebiter is away…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, for sure…

  46. Steve says:
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    Awww – look at the Steve Magic working on Adam Lind.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I thought Lind was really in a bad place… Shows us Steve Magic can conquer all…

    • royce! says:
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      @Steve, Thanks, Steve! That HR just untied my h2h matchup. Now I’m up 6-4! Can you drop Braun and Bruce now?

      • Steve says:
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        @royce!, Sorry, no. It’s still late-ish early though.

        • royce! says:
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          @Steve, But it takes a village, Steve! Do your part for my h2h team!

          • Steve says:
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            @royce!, Heh. Don’t own Braun and thinking about benching Bruce for Ethier. Will that do?

            • royce! says:
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              @Steve, Guess it’s worth a shot… Bruce was amazing when it didn’t matter for my h2h, and now this…but it’s still early!

  47. royce! says:
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    Is there any point in owning Kenley in my 14-team h2h? Seems like he’ll be back soon, and when on, he’s definitely better than most of my other closer options (Reed, Cishek, Lopez).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s supposed to be back on Tuesday… So depends if you can hold out for him, one setback and he’s probably done for the year so they might use kid gloves…

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey, I can wait for him, and, despite the Dodgers recent woes, he’s bound to get more opportunities than Wilton…I’ll just wait and see if anything newsworthy happens or is said by Sunday, when I have to set my lineup.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, makes sense if you need the saves…

  48. Carnac says:
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    Re: terrible player contracts, via baseballplayersalaries.com…

    After going 1 for 4 today, Vernon Wells has been paid $446,808.51 per hit this season. His contract accounts for 14.5% of the team’s salary; his % of the team’s on-field performance is 1.39%. Also, Vernon’s Federal Income Tax is the lowest its been in over 50 years.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ugh, that’s so depressing…

      • Carnac says:
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        @Grey, Yeah, depressing all around.

        Next year The Magnificent Carnac may start a Razzcontract fantasy league. A-Rod and Wells would be top picks. Johan, Lackey, etc. Injury risks would be sleepers.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Could just join Boras’s league…

          • Carnac says:
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            @Grey, Is Ned Colletti in that league?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              And Arte Moreno… $200 million goes to the winner… People trying to hedge their bets…

              • Carnac says:
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                @Grey, Nice.

  49. Steve says:
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    Hoping for a VERY high-scoring game in Arlington. With Cruz doing nothing…

  50. royce! says:
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    Someone at IBM should program Watson to play FBB. Assuming the odds were right, I’d bet that it wouldn’t be able to win a h2h league.

    Which gets me thinking…in the future, when the robots rebel, I say we just teach them FBB. It’s be like the end of War Games, except maybe with more sparks, and the robots heads would spin around, maybe they’d make some robotic “whoop whoop whoop” noises, perhaps interspersed with “Does not compute! Does not compute!”

    Yeah, I’m like freaking John Connor over here. You all can thank me now.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Great idea! Mr. President, we’ve tried everything! Have you tried the robots owning Jay Bruce during a H2H playoff?

  51. Steve says:
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    Grrrrrrrr, Harrell.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Compared to F-Her, not bad…

  52. Steve says:
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    How’s the weather in Chicago? Any sign of a start soon?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not sure…

  53. Long Bawls says:
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    7 earned against F-Her??? Gah! It’s like he’s wetting the sleeping bag I was forced into after my mattress got ruined. And the Stream-O-Nator’s watching with approval, maybe tossing in some advice.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ugh, yeah, not pretty at all… And freakin’ Edwin still chugging along during it all…

  54. Steve says:
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    Ugh. Things not going to plan. Opponent starting both Holland and McAllister and has Cloyd going against my Harrell.

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, Shit, shit, shit.

      • Steve says:
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        @Steve, FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Steve says:
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          @Steve, That’s bucking fullshit. Useless bastard. And amongst all that Rollins is 0-2

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yeah, not a pretty start there at all…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, things turned ugly quick there… Dah…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, And it’s scoreless in Arlington? Give me a break.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          McAllister just got hit, but it should be a 7-6 game by now…

  55. Steve says:
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    Screw you Brett Wallace. Couldn’t get a hit there? Jesus.

  56. Slappy Pappy says:
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    Thanks for the advice this year (and for being funny as sh!t all season). I’m 2nd in my HTH, going through a bye before starting the playoffs next week. Bye week? Yeah, it’s a weird league, 5×5 plus QS, 2B, and OBP. Several people are streaming SPs so I might not get whoever I drop back.

    Should I drop one of Marcum, Cashner, Straily, or Estrada for AJ Griffin?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Marcum for Griffin…

  57. Steve says:
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    Ah bullshit. Tigers-White Sox postponed.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I guess that Wise pick up didn’t matter…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, Hah, no I guess not. Still makes my team a little more balanced though and since I need my last two adds for pitching I’m kinda stuck with him.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, hopefully he gets some steals this weekend…

  58. Chris says:
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    playoffs next week in cbs league, do i go with chapman, broxton, whilhelmson or santiago cassilla for my relief spot?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wilhelmsen

      • Chris says:
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        @Grey, with your expert opinion, how serious is morse and beltres injuries?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not so bad for Beltre, he’s playing well today… Morse’s could be an issue…

          • Chris says:
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            @Grey, damn. haha in my league you have to set lineups at the beginning of the week and you cannot change them so i have to go with my gut with stuff like this, especially during the playoffs

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Well, by Sunday we should have a better idea on Morse…

  59. Steve says:
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    Have some of that, Cloyd.

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, Wow – he’s done. Come on Astros!

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Yeah, I know, just saw that… Must be trying to keep his innings in check…

        • Steve says:
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          @Grey, Just need Harrell to keep his shizz together – and for the Tribe to level it up.

          • Steve says:
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            @Steve, So of course he walks Utley.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I’d have more have in Tribe leveling it up if they can get to him quickly…

          • Steve says:
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            @Steve, 2-2. You can only hope to contain me.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              There ya go!

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey, Need it to stay tied now.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Your opponent has Holland?

                  • Steve says:
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                    @Grey, He has both starters.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      So we want a lot of runs there… Gotcha…

  60. royce! says:
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    So the DET game got postponed to Monday. Does this mean that each starting pitcher’s start will be moved forward one day?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, that’s what I’d think… Probably both go tomorrow…

      • royce! says:
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        @Grey, I’d like that. Fister would be a 2-starter next week- @CWS and MIN.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not bad matchups there…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          A *pinkie to mouth* double Fister…

          • royce! says:
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            @Grey, Ugh, I’d keep that pinkie away from that mouth, if I were you…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              You don’t know where it’s been! Ha…

  61. John says:
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    the dismal catcher spot– who is the best bet… doumit, kurt suzuki or salvador perez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Perez

  62. Steve says:
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    I’d take a Rollins HR here…

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, But not that. They’re probably going to pull him now…

      • Steve says:
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        @Steve, Nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Steve says:
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          @Steve, Fucking Pierre. What a pain in the arse he’s been today.

          • Steve says:
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            @Steve, 5 walks haven’t helped either.

      • Steve says:
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        @Steve, Oh. That tops it off nicely. FFS.

  63. Steve says:
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    OK. That’s McAllister done with.

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, Stay tied til Holland leaves, please.

      • Steve says:
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        @Steve, Thanks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nice… So now win for either for your opponent right?

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey, That’s right. I got lucky today/tonight. I’d love an Ethier/Rollins home run, though.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Sweet!

  64. Prezii says:
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    Grey.. another thanks. This time its for steerin me clear of cloyd. His matchups were so good too.. you are clutch! Even better,.my opponent streamed him!! Hahahahahaha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hahaha… Nice!

  65. B.o.B says:
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    Can’t complain about Sale avoiding Detroit (0-3, 6.00 ERA, 1.56 WHIP) and being bumped to Minnesota (2-0, 1.29 ERA, 0.79 WHIP)!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah, not bad at all…

  66. Steve says:
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    OK – strategy time. I’m behind by a couple of Ks, and up 4-3 in Wins. Counting hitting stats are all pretty close, and he has a solid (but not insurmountable) lead in AVG and OBP. I’m solidly ahead in ERA/WHIP and we’re 1-1 in Holds. He leads 6-5 overall.

    As it stands, have a minimum 6 starts left, with 2 adds available, so a maximum of 8 starts.

    From what I can see, he has 3 starts left and I’m pretty sure he has used up all his adds. So, all things being equal I should be able to stay ahead in Wins and overtake him in Ks.

    I’m wondering what to do with my last two adds. I’d like to keep one up my sleeve for another starter just in case.

    With my other add I’m tossing up between adding a Holds guy to try and get ahead in Holds (which would be huge – he has Boggs, Jepsen and Benoit. I have J Lopez) or to grab Sal Perez to sub in for my injured Mauer, who has now missed three games with a sore back.

    A lot to digest there, but what do you think?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Well, I’m worried if you go with another Holds guy, he’s going to win it anyway… Then a catcher add and Mauer comes back and it’s a waste… I say try and steal Holds and go with an MR…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey, Cool. Top 3 Holds guys in last 7 days are Henderson, Aumont and Ziegler.

        Was going to go Aumont, but he wasn’t good today and is pretty new, so was thinking Ziegler.

        With Putz out and Hernandez closing he’s gotta be the 8th inning guy – agree? Or is Putz due back tomorrow?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I’d go with Ziegler…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Oh, and even if Putz returns, I’d go with Ziegler…

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey, Yeah – he’s been pretty solid lately.

            Oh, and damn. I grabbed Kluber for his start tomorrow – now thanks to the rainout he’s going against Verlander (sad trombone).

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              That is one loud, sad trombone… Damn…

  67. Howard says:
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    @Grey, Lookin forward to tomorrow, I’ve got Cash and Meds. What more could you need! Fill in SS for Cozart: Segura, Soiano, Greene, The VP or Escobar? Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, me too… I’m afraid to get too excited because I’m always worried the other shoe will drop… Solano…

  68. Steve says:
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    *Shakes fist at sky* Holland!

    • Steve says:
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      @Steve, Come on Royals – a vulture win here would be real sweet.

  69. nightpandas says:
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    7.5 pt lead in my 15 teamer

    I think the shine is off David Murphy….

    Looking to protect Runs and RBI and move up in HR

    Drop Murphy for:
    Aoki
    Denorfia
    Wyse
    Crisp
    Mayberry

    and/or Drop Ruiz for:

    Soto
    Donaldson

    or hold my 3 moves for spot starters
    Can gain or lose easily with W/L/ERA/WHIP
    The guy who is close only has 1 move left

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Aoki… And hold Ruiz and your moves…

  70. Mookie wilson says:
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    Start Milone vs BAL tomorrow? Need a win bad but probably not as much as I need to protect against a ratio blow-up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d sit him then…

      • Mookie wilson says:
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        @Grey, What if I took out that second sentence? Start him in a vacuum?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I would’ve said start him if you didn’t say that about your ratios…

  71. Steve says:
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    Bleurgh. That Boggs Hold is annoying.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, thought of you when I saw it…

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