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 Post subject: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:26 pm 
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This is in my 8 Team H2H league - the stats and roster are in my signature.

These are the available bats:

Bourjos, Rios, Rasmus, Markakis, Moustakas, D. Young, Boneface

After tomorrow's game, do I lose Ichiro for any of the guys listed above? A few of them Grey has ranked ahead of Ichiro. If not, who would you pick up when BJ Upton hits the DL?

These are the available arms:

Cueto, Chacin, Cahill, Colby, Fister, Liriano

I've shopped around Hellickson and a closer for an uptick in SP and no one has taken the bait. All of those guys (besides Liriano) are ranked ahead of Hellickson in Grey's ranking. Would you go ahead and drop Hellickson for any of them? If not, who would you pick up when Storen hits the DL?

Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in.

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8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - J-Up
OF - Marte
OF - Jones
UTIL - Moreland
UTIL - LoCain
BN - BJ-Up
BN - Jennings

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Holland
RP - Mujica
P - Parnell
P - Henderson
P - Lester
BN - Minor
BN - Gallardo
BN - McCarthy
DL - Bailey
DL - Garza

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - McLouth
OF - BJ-Up
UTIL - Arcia
UTIL - D.Gordon
BN - AJax
DL - Stanton

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Bailey
P - Veras
P - Cingrani
BN - DLR
BN - Niese
BN - Kazmir
BN - Madson - DL


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:02 pm 
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8 teamer feels like a crapshoot... infield is sooo baller..... Id say stick with Eeechie. Sometimes Grey will Rank someone just to make a statement and you have to take it as that. With his 4-5 yesterday and his name rec, you cant just drop him, see if you can trade him for a werth or ethier (both > Eechie imo unless AVE is a big deal). Otherwise jist chill for a bit. See what happens as the season unfolds..........

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[size=85]Points, 15 teams, 1500 innings cap, 3 keepers, stat followed by point value:
(AB -.5, R 1, H 1, 1B 1, 2B 2, 3B 3, HR 4, RBI 1, SB 1, CS -1, BB 1, K -.5, E -1) x
(W 8, L -8, CG 4, SHO 6, SV 4, OUT .75, H -1, ER -1, BB -1, HBP -1, K 1, WP -.5, GIDP 1, HLD 2)

C: Lucroy
1B: Prince
2B: Rutledge
3B: MiniDonk
SS: Segura
CI: AuShmidt
MI: Bcrawford
LF: Jennings
CF: Jones
RF: Soo Choo
Util: McCutchen
BN (5 total): none
DL (2 max): none

SP (2): Peavy, Ryu
RP (2): rivera, league
P (5): frieri, street, perkins, balfour, henderson,
BN (5 total): Neise, Jo-fer, Cingrani, Hughes, Dubrount
DL (2 max): Liriano


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:04 pm 
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chacin over hellickson... 4got bout q2....

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[size=85]Points, 15 teams, 1500 innings cap, 3 keepers, stat followed by point value:
(AB -.5, R 1, H 1, 1B 1, 2B 2, 3B 3, HR 4, RBI 1, SB 1, CS -1, BB 1, K -.5, E -1) x
(W 8, L -8, CG 4, SHO 6, SV 4, OUT .75, H -1, ER -1, BB -1, HBP -1, K 1, WP -.5, GIDP 1, HLD 2)

C: Lucroy
1B: Prince
2B: Rutledge
3B: MiniDonk
SS: Segura
CI: AuShmidt
MI: Bcrawford
LF: Jennings
CF: Jones
RF: Soo Choo
Util: McCutchen
BN (5 total): none
DL (2 max): none

SP (2): Peavy, Ryu
RP (2): rivera, league
P (5): frieri, street, perkins, balfour, henderson,
BN (5 total): Neise, Jo-fer, Cingrani, Hughes, Dubrount
DL (2 max): Liriano


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:45 pm 
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Thanks for the replies. Yeah, people knock the 8 team league, but it's actually pretty tough. I obsess about it more since there is so much out there, and it seems like a move could be made constantly. My 16 team league obviously doesn't have that problem. There are a couple guys available, but nothing to write home about. I was thinking the same thing, probably hang on to Ichiro for the time being. Hope he can kick it 2008-2010 style and bump up his trade value. I really love my offense, but with my two main utility guys in BJ and Lind hurting, I've gotta get some suitable replacements. After Chacin, who would you go with? I'm thinking either Fister or take a shot on Liriano. I'll be picking someone up once Storen hits the DL. What's your overall opinion of Chacin? I know Grey loves him, but he hasn't looked good in camp, showed up overweight and all.

Thanks again. Always appreciate the input.

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8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - J-Up
OF - Marte
OF - Jones
UTIL - Moreland
UTIL - LoCain
BN - BJ-Up
BN - Jennings

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Holland
RP - Mujica
P - Parnell
P - Henderson
P - Lester
BN - Minor
BN - Gallardo
BN - McCarthy
DL - Bailey
DL - Garza

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - McLouth
OF - BJ-Up
UTIL - Arcia
UTIL - D.Gordon
BN - AJax
DL - Stanton

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Bailey
P - Veras
P - Cingrani
BN - DLR
BN - Niese
BN - Kazmir
BN - Madson - DL


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:59 am 
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Liriano over Hellickson
DL BJ and Storen
Why do you have so many closers?
Not a fan of Myers and Balfour.
I would add D Young.


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:04 am 
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HOOTIE wrote:
Liriano over Hellickson
DL BJ and Storen
Why do you have so many closers?
Not a fan of Myers and Balfour.
I would add D Young.


Not a huge fan of either one, really. Just added all of them to hope for some trade value. A couple teams ended up with only 1 or 2 closers.

I'm thinking I'm gonna give Hellickson a couple start trial and pick up either Chacin or roll the dice on Liriano when I can DL Storen. Thanks for the input.

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8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - J-Up
OF - Marte
OF - Jones
UTIL - Moreland
UTIL - LoCain
BN - BJ-Up
BN - Jennings

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Holland
RP - Mujica
P - Parnell
P - Henderson
P - Lester
BN - Minor
BN - Gallardo
BN - McCarthy
DL - Bailey
DL - Garza

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - McLouth
OF - BJ-Up
UTIL - Arcia
UTIL - D.Gordon
BN - AJax
DL - Stanton

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Bailey
P - Veras
P - Cingrani
BN - DLR
BN - Niese
BN - Kazmir
BN - Madson - DL


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:24 pm 
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Ok, here's an addendum to my original question:

I have an assload of closers - Marmol, Hanrahan, Myers, Balfour, Marshall, and Storen (who will obviously be DL'd). Like I said, I've been trying to deal Hellickson and a closer for an upgrade in SP and have been unable to do anything. Is it pointless to carry so many closers? I thought some of them might have some value, but they don't. I'm wondering if anyone in such a small league might lose one of them for a starter? It would seem that 4 would be enough, but at the same time I hate sending someone back to the FA pool who actually has a closing gig.

Much obliged...

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8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - J-Up
OF - Marte
OF - Jones
UTIL - Moreland
UTIL - LoCain
BN - BJ-Up
BN - Jennings

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Holland
RP - Mujica
P - Parnell
P - Henderson
P - Lester
BN - Minor
BN - Gallardo
BN - McCarthy
DL - Bailey
DL - Garza

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - McLouth
OF - BJ-Up
UTIL - Arcia
UTIL - D.Gordon
BN - AJax
DL - Stanton

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Bailey
P - Veras
P - Cingrani
BN - DLR
BN - Niese
BN - Kazmir
BN - Madson - DL


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:26 pm 
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Wilsonian wrote:
Ok, here's an addendum to my original question:

I have an assload of closers - Marmol, Hanrahan, Myers, Balfour, Marshall, and Storen (who will obviously be DL'd). Like I said, I've been trying to deal Hellickson and a closer for an upgrade in SP and have been unable to do anything. Is it pointless to carry so many closers? I thought some of them might have some value, but they don't. I'm wondering if anyone in such a small league might lose one of them for a starter? It would seem that 4 would be enough, but at the same time I hate sending someone back to the FA pool who actually has a closing gig.

Much obliged...


I'd wait to see what happens in the first few weeks - some closer might lose their job or be platooning (Reds?), or some team in your league might decide they actually want to trade for one of your better closers (you will have to give up good value like Marmol I think to make anything happen through trade).

You're talking about 1 spot until Storen comes back (if he comes back, which I'm starting to doubt... remember Aardsma last year?). Anyways, at some point you might decide a crappy closer is worse than a good set-up guy like Clippard anyways.

Otherwise, if you need to make a move elsewhere on your team, who do you drop? Myers? Marshall? Balfour? Hanrahan? They're all marginal in my mind...

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C Wieters
1B Rizzo
2B Uggla
3B Wright
SS Reyes
OF Dread Pirate
OF Bruuuuuuuuce
OF Heyward
OF Rios
U ACraig
BN AlexGordon
BN Aybar
BN Coco
BN Doumit

SP Gio
SP CLee
SP Beckett
SP Johan
SP Scherzer
RP Myers
RP Reed
BN Valverde
BN Lincecum
BN Oswalt
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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:19 pm 
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SeligsSon wrote:
I'd wait to see what happens in the first few weeks - some closer might lose their job or be platooning (Reds?), or some team in your league might decide they actually want to trade for one of your better closers (you will have to give up good value like Marmol I think to make anything happen through trade).

You're talking about 1 spot until Storen comes back (if he comes back, which I'm starting to doubt... remember Aardsma last year?). Anyways, at some point you might decide a crappy closer is worse than a good set-up guy like Clippard anyways.

Otherwise, if you need to make a move elsewhere on your team, who do you drop? Myers? Marshall? Balfour? Hanrahan? Their all marginal in my mind...


Well I had offered up Marmol to give it a shot, but nothing ever happened. I think that's pretty similar to what Grey had to say. I'll just hang on to them and see how things play out. Obviously I can pick someone up once Storen goes down, and I'm hoping it won't be forever. I think Storen, Marmol, Hanrahan and one of the other three will probably keep me afloat, assuming all are healthy. Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Just like getting some advice when I'm wavering on a decision.

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8 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, QS, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - McCann
1B - Fielder
2B - Utley
3B - Longoria
SS - Tulo
OF - J-Up
OF - Marte
OF - Jones
UTIL - Moreland
UTIL - LoCain
BN - BJ-Up
BN - Jennings

SP - Gio
SP - Scherzer
SP - Moore
RP - Holland
RP - Mujica
P - Parnell
P - Henderson
P - Lester
BN - Minor
BN - Gallardo
BN - McCarthy
DL - Bailey
DL - Garza

16 Team H2H (H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OB+SLUG, W, L, SV, Ks, Ks/9, ERA, WHIP)

C - JP
1B - Goldy
2B - Uggla
3B - Machado
SS - Tulo
OF - Jones
OF - McLouth
OF - BJ-Up
UTIL - Arcia
UTIL - D.Gordon
BN - AJax
DL - Stanton

SP - Moore
SP - Dempster
SP - Latos
RP - Mujica
RP - Bailey
P - Veras
P - Cingrani
BN - DLR
BN - Niese
BN - Kazmir
BN - Madson - DL


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 Post subject: Re: Pick Up Any Of The Following?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:42 pm 
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You need D Young more then the overrated Hellickson.


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