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 Post subject: Manny Compared to Dodgers
PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:04 pm 
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Used pts/game=(R+RBI+TB+BB+(SB*2)) for a compare. Manny's age is the wild card. Note top ten dodgers over last ten years below. Furcal @#4 is pretty good.

year g obp slg avg pts pts/gm
sheffield 5-yr as dodger: 436 .420 .581 .312 1871 4.3
ramirez 8-yr as red sox: 1348 .419 .605 .318 5935 4.4
year g obp slg avg pts pts/gm age
sheffield best year: 2000 141 .438 .643 .325 645 4.6 31
ramirez best year: 2002 120 .450 .647 .349 546 4.6 29

sheffield follow up year: 2001 143 .417 .583 .311 612 4.3 32 -6%
ramirez follow up year: 2003 154 .427 .587 .325 658 4.3 30 -6%

shef after lad atl-2,nyy-3,det-2: 884 .379 .496 .287 3540 4.0
best year: 2003 155 .419 .604 .330 728 4.7 34 ATL
follow up year: 2004 154 .393 .534 .290 646 4.2 35 -11% NYA

ramirez .4 yr lad: 2008 53 .489 .743 .396 267 5.0 35
projected: 2009 ? ? ? ?

top ten dodgers in the last 10 years (descending pts/game):
g obp slg avg pts pts/gm
sheffield 436 .420 .581 .312 1871 4.3
mondesi 159 .332 .483 .253 630 4.0
Green-of 641 .370 .522 .283 2539 4.0
furcal 333 .362 .420 .293 1227 3.7
drew 218 .399 .505 .284 791 3.6
green-1b 157 .352 .459 .266 530 3.4
kent 521 .367 .479 .291 1725 3.3
martin,r 427 .373 .433 .285 1413 3.3
Kemp-of 305 .342 .474 .299 983 3.2
beltre 889 .335 .468 .278 2846 3.2

manny g obp slg avg pts pts/gm
cle 1999 147 .442 .663 .333 742 5.0
cle 2000 118 .457 .697 .351 608 5.2
bos 2001 142 .405 .609 .306 621 4.4
bos 2002 120 .450 .647 .349 546 4.6
bos 2003 154 .427 .587 .325 658 4.3
bos 2004 152 .397 .613 .308 672 4.4
bos 2005 152 .388 .594 .292 667 4.4
bos 2006 130 .439 .619 .321 559 4.3
bos 2007 133 .388 .493 .296 481 3.6
bos 2008 100 .398 .529 .299 381 3.8
1348 .419 .605 .318 5935 4.4 Age
lad 2008 53 .489 .743 .396 267 5.0 35


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 Post subject: Re: Manny Compared to Dodgers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:51 am 
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This is interesting... Furcal is very surprising. How is Manny being compared though? Isn't this apples and oranges a bit? Manny's in Fenway, at different ages, surrounded by different lineups.

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 Post subject: Re: Manny Compared to Dodgers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:35 am 
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Went into the research believing there was NO WAY Manny could come anywhere close to repeating--batting in the division with 3 of the worst hitting ballparks. I was surprised to find that Sheffield managed quite well. So well, in fact, that his numbers are almost an exact parallel to Manny's w/Sox. Took from that that maybe Manny could do well again w/LAD. Then compared the following years from the best year to see dropoff. Again, identical -6% numbers. Manny's was so great for just .4 of a season that I would take a worst case scenario and project -10% (taking into account another ONE year older) from his last year's 5.0 ppg which leaves him with a still VERY productive 4.5 this year. He has been a pretty consistent, in-shape player (when not faking it). Dodgers will give him lots of love. Research just made me turn the corner on my originally GUT dismal predictions. The numbers speak for themselves.


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