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beastybri
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Post subject: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:46 am |
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Larkfest
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Post subject: Re: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:50 am |
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No brainer, I'd go with Nolasco....He is a huge rebound candidate from last year and he is having a stellar spring. He will get you strikeouts and hopefully more wins than last year.
Kershaw is a phenom but he rarely gets out of the six innning, he throws alot of balls and is still a year or two away from being an elite fantasy option.
I'm not saying Nolasco is going to be top 10 but he definitely could be. I love Nalasco for 2010
_________________ 14 Team - H2H - 5X5 Keeper league
C - S. Perez (10) 1B - P. Goldschmidt (5) 2B - I. Kinsler (K) 3B - A. Beltre (K) SS - A. Ramirez LF - A. Gordan (6) CF - Alejandro De Aza RF - Chris Davis(9) Util - C. Headley (K) B - Hosmer (RK) B - Starling Marte B - Michael Cuddyer
SP - M Scherzer (7) SP - J Zimmerman (8) SP - J. Johnson (11) RP - Glen Perkins RP - Luke Gregerson RP- David Robertson P - Jon Neise B - Jason Hamel B - Alex Cobb B - Trevor Bauer B - Dillon Gee B - Cory Luebke
12 Team - H2H - 6X6 Keeper league,(OPS and QS)
C - J. Montero (13) 1B - P. Fielder (1) 2B - C. Utley (8) 3B - E. Longoria (2) SS - A. Cabrera (17) OF - J. Heyward(3) OF - BJ. Upton (4) OF - S. Choo (5)(9) MI - Neil Walker (11) CI - K. Morales (15) Util - Michael Cuddyer (19) B - L. Cain (18) DL - A. Eaton (21)
SP - M Scherzer (10 Keep) SP - J Zimmerman (6) RP - Greg Holland (12) RP- Sergio Romo (9) P - J Shields (14 Keep) P - J. Johnson (7) p - M. Estrada (16) B - Kyuji Fujikawa (20) B - J. Hammel (FA) B - J. Hernandez (FA) B - D. Bundy (23) DL - C. Tillman (22)
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beastybri
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Post subject: Re: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:57 am |
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Really? A no-brainer? I don't agree. I rolled Nolasco out there in the second half last year and got alot of 5/6 run outings...I like him, don't get me wrong...but I think Kershaw is going to be better this year. I think he will be a 3rd or 4th rounder (ala Wainwright, Grienke) next year. Grey...what about you?
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dsdonaghy
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Post subject: Re: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:18 am |
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I think it depends on where you can get them in relation to the draft. In a vaccum I'd pick Kershaw, just b/c with an unbalnaced sched, he gets a lot of Giants and Pads games. Nolasco has the Nats, but he also has to face the Phils, Braves and even a decent (hitting) Mets team. One bad day against the Phils could be 8 runs in 2.2 innings....
_________________ 12 team 6x6 rotisserie (w/ Holds and OPS) w/ three keepers. Roster has 15 spots, including 5 bench spots and 2 extra DL
C Doumit 1B Votto 2B Kendrick 3B C. Davis SS Rollins MI Infante CI Lind, Youklis OF Cruz OF Stanton OF Rasmus OF V. Wells Util: Cozark Bench: Youklis DL DL: Ryan Howard
P M Adams P Motte SP Lester SP A. Sanchez SP Coke SP eligible Holds RP RP Street RP Balfour Bench: Detwiller, Bumgarner, Beachy, D. Hudson DL DL: T. Stauffer
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Post subject: Re: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:07 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:18 pm Posts: 85
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So why the question? .....sounds like you have your mind made up...go with Kershaw!
_________________ 14 Team - H2H - 5X5 Keeper league
C - S. Perez (10) 1B - P. Goldschmidt (5) 2B - I. Kinsler (K) 3B - A. Beltre (K) SS - A. Ramirez LF - A. Gordan (6) CF - Alejandro De Aza RF - Chris Davis(9) Util - C. Headley (K) B - Hosmer (RK) B - Starling Marte B - Michael Cuddyer
SP - M Scherzer (7) SP - J Zimmerman (8) SP - J. Johnson (11) RP - Glen Perkins RP - Luke Gregerson RP- David Robertson P - Jon Neise B - Jason Hamel B - Alex Cobb B - Trevor Bauer B - Dillon Gee B - Cory Luebke
12 Team - H2H - 6X6 Keeper league,(OPS and QS)
C - J. Montero (13) 1B - P. Fielder (1) 2B - C. Utley (8) 3B - E. Longoria (2) SS - A. Cabrera (17) OF - J. Heyward(3) OF - BJ. Upton (4) OF - S. Choo (5)(9) MI - Neil Walker (11) CI - K. Morales (15) Util - Michael Cuddyer (19) B - L. Cain (18) DL - A. Eaton (21)
SP - M Scherzer (10 Keep) SP - J Zimmerman (6) RP - Greg Holland (12) RP- Sergio Romo (9) P - J Shields (14 Keep) P - J. Johnson (7) p - M. Estrada (16) B - Kyuji Fujikawa (20) B - J. Hammel (FA) B - J. Hernandez (FA) B - D. Bundy (23) DL - C. Tillman (22)
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Derekjeterss
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Post subject: Re: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:53 am |
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I just made this trade myself. I think kershaws raw talent is better but being a Yankee fan and knowing how Joe torre handles young wild pitchers. I traded kershaw for nolasco. Kershaw is way too wild to ever get any significat win totals while torre is the manager. Doesn't matter what the score is but if kershaw walks 2/3 batters in the middle innings, torre will pull him. This will limit win totals and even k's. Now ask me in two yrs and under a more patient pitchers manager, I'd have kept kershaw.
Also, even though nolasco's era soared to 5 last yr, his whip was still 1.25 and his k's were around 200 so I expect his era to at least level off to the upper 3's and win 12-16 again.
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SmirkDiggler
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Post subject: Nolasco, but not by much Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:08 am |
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Kershaw has the slight advantage for a roto league with his better ratios, but he will have his blow-ups being the youngster he still is. I have him on my team and I won't complain if he puts up even 85% of last-years sub-3 ERA and league-leading H/9. Nolasco will have his blow-ups too, but he's also a KperIP guy and will pitch deeper into games. I'd take him over Kershaw in H2H.
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havok
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Post subject: Re: Nolasco or Kershaw? Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:32 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:40 pm Posts: 983 Location: NJ
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If we're talking trade and not draft, I'd take Kershaw. I think his ceiling is much higher as he matures and hopefully becomes a more efficient pitcher. His K potential is through the roof and he had the lowest BAA last season. The day someone can teach him to be more efficient on the mound even a little bit this kid becomes a Top 10 pitcher IMO.
This is not discounting Nolasco who I think rebounds well from last year but I don't see his potential and ceiling being as high.
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