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 Post subject: CC Sabathia acknowledges Velo drop could be for good...
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:33 am 
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I predict he won't use the 2nd opt out clause....I think he can be an effective pitcher, not the Ace of a fantasy staff tho...Thanks for the memories CC, twas a good ride....

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C Montero, Miguel(C) ARI
1B Adams, Matt(1B) STL
2B Altuve, Jose(2B) HOU
3B Frazier, Todd(3B) CIN
SS Escobar, Alcides(SS) KC
MI Bogaerts, Xander(SS) BOS
CI Votto, Joey(1B) CIN
OF Arcia, Oswaldo(OF) MIN (DL)
OF Brantley, Michael(OF) CLE
OF Jennings, Desmond(OF) TB
OF Jones, Adam(OF) BAL
OF McCutchen, Andrew(OF) PIT
DH Espinosa, Danny(2B) WAS
DH Francisco, Juan(1B,3B) TOR

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P Bumgarner, Madison(P) SF
P Cueto, Johnny(P) CIN
P Gray, Sonny(P) OAK
P Kazmir, Scott(P) OAK
P Minor, Mike(P) ATL
P Peralta, Wily(P) MIL
P Price, David(P) TB
P Ray, Robbie(P) DET
P Reed, Addison(P) ARI
P Soriano, Rafael(P) WAS

Bench (C) Mesoraco, Devin(C) CIN
Bench (OF) Eaton, Adam(OF) CHW
Bench (DH) Alcantara, Arismendy(DH) CHC
Bench (DH) Franco, Maikel(DH) PHI
Bench (DH) Chisenhall, Lonnie CLE
Bench (DH) Johnson, Micah(DH) CHW
Bench (DH) Lindor, Francisco(DH) CLE
Bench (DH) Moustakas, Mike(3B) KC
Bench (DH) Liriano, Rymer SD
Bench (DH) Taveras, Oscar(DH) STL

Bench (P) Banuelos, Manny(P) NYY
Bench (P) Ray, Robbie DET
Bench (P) Pomeranz, Drew(P) OAK
Bench (P) Rondon, Hector(P) CHC
Bench (P) Stroman, Marcus TOR
Bench (P) Thornburg, Tyler(P) MIL
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 Post subject: Re: CC Sabathia acknowledges Velo drop could be for good...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:33 am 
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I wouldn't give him quote much credence...

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 Post subject: Re: CC Sabathia acknowledges Velo drop could be for good...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:12 pm 
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So far I've scene him hit 92....It is still early, but rarely does a pitcher acknowledge this so honestly. He def lost 25-30 lbs, maybe fat guys just meant to be fat. Also had elbow surgery in the offseason, and has indeed thrown 40,000 pitches. What I see now is he's having 1 or 2 bad innings, where command is off and normally he'd get by with pure stuff. Ryan Raburn hit back to back homers off him, not a good sign.

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Batters
Pos Active Batters
C Montero, Miguel(C) ARI
1B Adams, Matt(1B) STL
2B Altuve, Jose(2B) HOU
3B Frazier, Todd(3B) CIN
SS Escobar, Alcides(SS) KC
MI Bogaerts, Xander(SS) BOS
CI Votto, Joey(1B) CIN
OF Arcia, Oswaldo(OF) MIN (DL)
OF Brantley, Michael(OF) CLE
OF Jennings, Desmond(OF) TB
OF Jones, Adam(OF) BAL
OF McCutchen, Andrew(OF) PIT
DH Espinosa, Danny(2B) WAS
DH Francisco, Juan(1B,3B) TOR

Pitchers
Pos Active Pitchers
P Bumgarner, Madison(P) SF
P Cueto, Johnny(P) CIN
P Gray, Sonny(P) OAK
P Kazmir, Scott(P) OAK
P Minor, Mike(P) ATL
P Peralta, Wily(P) MIL
P Price, David(P) TB
P Ray, Robbie(P) DET
P Reed, Addison(P) ARI
P Soriano, Rafael(P) WAS

Bench (C) Mesoraco, Devin(C) CIN
Bench (OF) Eaton, Adam(OF) CHW
Bench (DH) Alcantara, Arismendy(DH) CHC
Bench (DH) Franco, Maikel(DH) PHI
Bench (DH) Chisenhall, Lonnie CLE
Bench (DH) Johnson, Micah(DH) CHW
Bench (DH) Lindor, Francisco(DH) CLE
Bench (DH) Moustakas, Mike(3B) KC
Bench (DH) Liriano, Rymer SD
Bench (DH) Taveras, Oscar(DH) STL

Bench (P) Banuelos, Manny(P) NYY
Bench (P) Ray, Robbie DET
Bench (P) Pomeranz, Drew(P) OAK
Bench (P) Rondon, Hector(P) CHC
Bench (P) Stroman, Marcus TOR
Bench (P) Thornburg, Tyler(P) MIL
Bench (P) Vizcaino, Arodys(P) CHC


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 Post subject: Re: CC Sabathia acknowledges Velo drop could be for good...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:39 pm 
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So you're saying this is probably the last season i'm getting anything close to good value huh?


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 Post subject: Re: CC Sabathia acknowledges Velo drop could be for good...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:36 pm 
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Not really IMO, CC knows how to pitch, if its only a natural regression due to age and not actually breaking down, after he makes his adjustments on his strategy / approach, hel'll actually gain value next year....CC def knows how to pitch, but he no longer can miss his spots and get away with it.

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13 Tm Mixed 11 Major 3 Minor Keeper "Midnight Crazies" (since 2003)
Batters
Pos Active Batters
C Montero, Miguel(C) ARI
1B Adams, Matt(1B) STL
2B Altuve, Jose(2B) HOU
3B Frazier, Todd(3B) CIN
SS Escobar, Alcides(SS) KC
MI Bogaerts, Xander(SS) BOS
CI Votto, Joey(1B) CIN
OF Arcia, Oswaldo(OF) MIN (DL)
OF Brantley, Michael(OF) CLE
OF Jennings, Desmond(OF) TB
OF Jones, Adam(OF) BAL
OF McCutchen, Andrew(OF) PIT
DH Espinosa, Danny(2B) WAS
DH Francisco, Juan(1B,3B) TOR

Pitchers
Pos Active Pitchers
P Bumgarner, Madison(P) SF
P Cueto, Johnny(P) CIN
P Gray, Sonny(P) OAK
P Kazmir, Scott(P) OAK
P Minor, Mike(P) ATL
P Peralta, Wily(P) MIL
P Price, David(P) TB
P Ray, Robbie(P) DET
P Reed, Addison(P) ARI
P Soriano, Rafael(P) WAS

Bench (C) Mesoraco, Devin(C) CIN
Bench (OF) Eaton, Adam(OF) CHW
Bench (DH) Alcantara, Arismendy(DH) CHC
Bench (DH) Franco, Maikel(DH) PHI
Bench (DH) Chisenhall, Lonnie CLE
Bench (DH) Johnson, Micah(DH) CHW
Bench (DH) Lindor, Francisco(DH) CLE
Bench (DH) Moustakas, Mike(3B) KC
Bench (DH) Liriano, Rymer SD
Bench (DH) Taveras, Oscar(DH) STL

Bench (P) Banuelos, Manny(P) NYY
Bench (P) Ray, Robbie DET
Bench (P) Pomeranz, Drew(P) OAK
Bench (P) Rondon, Hector(P) CHC
Bench (P) Stroman, Marcus TOR
Bench (P) Thornburg, Tyler(P) MIL
Bench (P) Vizcaino, Arodys(P) CHC


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 Post subject: Re: CC Sabathia acknowledges Velo drop could be for good...
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:09 am 
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Yeah but he has relied on locating that fastball with about a 92-94 mph velocity. If he is going to only be locating that same fastball at 89, I can't see him getting as many swing an misses. He'll be serviceable but, not a legit #1/Strikeout artist anymore, which is why I originally (4 seasons ago) drafted him. And at this point, noone wants anything to do with him in a trade.

So from a value perspective. I lose.

Maybe I can pawn him off on the guy who drafted Trevor Plouffe.

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