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 Post subject: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:31 pm 
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I was just offerred Brandon League straight up for Frazier. I need saves (only have Chapman), but that seems to expensive a price. The team making the offer wants someone who is 1B eligible.

Both of our teams are listed below. Any suggestions?

I'm in a 12 team 5x5 standard mixed roto league with the following setup:

Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
Batters Stat Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)

My team:

C: J.P. Arencibia
1B: Albert Pujols
2B: Danny Espinosa
SS: Jimmy Rollins
3B: Todd Frazier
OF: Justin Upton
OF: Adam Jones
OF: Shin-Soo Choo
UT: Desmond Jennings
UT: Alex Gordon
Bench: Pedro Alvarez
Bench: Daniel Nova
Bench: Lorenzo Cain

SP: Jon Lester, Jake Peavy, Jonathan Neise, Homer Bailey, AJ Burnett,Matt Garza, Tommy Milone, Tony Cingrani, Jose Fernendez
RP: Aroldis Chapman, Valverde (NA)
DL: Matt Garza
DL: Sergio Santos

Opposing Team:

C: Wilin Rosario
1B: Kendrys Morales
2B: Everth Cabrera
3B: Kyle Seager
SS: Jed Lowrie
OF: Carlos Beltran
OF: Alexandro de Aza
OF: Nick Markakis
UT: Carlos Gonzalez
UT: Anthony Rendon
BN: Chris Carter
BN: Yoenis Cespedis
DL: Hanley Ramirez

SP: Stephen Strasburg, Andy Pettitie, Shelby Miller, Adam Wainright, Max Scherzer
DL: Zach Greinke
RP: Mariano Rivera, Jim Johnson, Brandon League, Joaquin Benoit, James Russell, Joel Hanrahan


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:25 pm 
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yeah I think you can do better than that... at least have him throw in benoit... but I think you should shop around elsewhere..


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:20 pm 
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agree with sockdeuce...don't move Frazier at this juncture unless you're getting more.

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Hitters: +1 single, +2 dbl, +3 trpl, +4 HR, +1 RBI, +1 run, +1 BB/HBP, -1 K, +2 SB, -1 CS
Pitchers: +1.5 IP, +1 K, -1 BB/HBP, +5 W, -3 L, +4 S, -2 BS, +3 CG, +10 shutout
Start one player at each position + utility, 4 SPs, 2 RPs. 8 reserves.

C: M. Montero
1B: Allen Craig
2B: Kinsler
3B: Longoria
SS: Segura
OF: Bautista, Holliday, Melky Cabrera
U: one of Pedroia, Blackmon, Dickerson or Carlos Beltran
SP: Wainwright, Iwakuma, Sonny Gray, Cobb
RP: Kimbrel, F. Rodney
Bench: Archer, Kennedy, Arrieta, McHugh


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:15 am 
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Any suggestions on a counter offer?


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:08 am 
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You're in a bad spot here.

On paper, that's terrible value, but when it comes to the closer market, paper value is mostly meaningless. It's all about leverage, and unfortunately, the guy with no closers never has any. Meanwhile the opposing team would like to get Frazier, but he doesn't have to get him. He's got Seagar heating up and a Rendon rental to get him through the next week.
On the other hand, you are falling behind by the day and waiting longer just makes it harder and harder to ever catch up.

You're going to get screwed in this (I collect RP just to screw the poor schmucks that don't have any). I'd try to make sure and get 2 guys getting saves (or who probably will soon) with whatever trade you do so you'll only get screwed once.
And certainly, if you move Frazier, make sure it's for 2 guys. Losing a good bat and still only having 2 closers really doesn't help your problem much.

Obviously, try to milk the wire as best you can.

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C: Castro, Montero
1B: Rizzo, Adams, Lind
2B: Kinsler, Kipnis
3B: M.Cabrera, Frazier, Reynolds
SS: Alcides
OF: Stanton, Trumbo, Choo, Marte, Rasmus, Blackmon, Bradley Jr.

SP: Gio, Scherzer, Ryu, Cashner, Kuroda, Lackey, Minor, Wood, Peralta
RP: Balfour, Perkins, Nathan, Frieri, Fields


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:58 am 
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The other team wants Frazier to play 1B, not 3B. However, like you said, I do need closers.

Any suggestions on a counter offer?


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:55 am 
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I think you need frazier at 3b... Id look to move your number five outfielder for a pair of closers


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 Post subject: Re: Should I take this offer?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:54 am 
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You are loaded at OF. Trade with another team that needs a good OF? If not, possibly try to get Benoit too as another person suggested. Not a good trade, but at a minimum, I would try get Rivera or Johnson. The LA closer job could be a couple of bad outings or a minor injury away from being Jansen's.


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