Trout trade

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Trout trade

Postby Espinosa's Empanadas » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:34 am

Longoria, pence, and butler for trout?
c: Jesus Montero
1b: Anthony Rizzo
2b: Chase Utely/Danny Espinosa
3b: Miggy
ss: Jose Reyes
OF: Mike Trout, Desmond Jennings, Carlos Beltran, Matt Kemp, Drew Stubbs
1b/3b Goldshmidt
UTIL: Ike Davis
SP: Yovani Gallardo, Weaver, Tommy Hanson, Matt Harvey, Gio Gonzalez, Marcum, Fiers, Villanueva, McAllister, Cashner
RP: Kenley Janson, Janssen, Chapman, Wilhelmson, Parnell, Frank Francisco
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6P: ERA, WHIP, W, L, SV, K
6H: AVG, HR, R, RBI, SB, OPS

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Re: Trout trade

Postby greeny23 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:48 am

i would.
14 Team Yahoo 5x5. 30 move limit (30 remaining)

C) Arencibia
1B) Rizzo
2B) Uggla
3B) Machado
SS) Andrus
OF) McCutchen
OF) A. Jones
OF) Choo
UTIL) Jennings
B) Hosmer

SP) Cain, Zimmermann, Latos, Porcello, Milone, Wheeler, Tillman, Gee, Erasmo Ramirez.
RP) Holland, Veras, Bell

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Re: Trout trade

Postby AdmiralTrey » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 am

Where are you going to play them all? Obviously Hunter Pence would replace Trout, but where are you going to play Longo and Butler? You have a third baseman and a first baseman already and you don't have any UtL slots listed in your sig.

12 Team H2H, 4 unrestricted keepers
C - Mike Napoli
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Jedd Gyorko
3B - Todd Frazier
SS - Jhonny Peralta
OF - Ryan Braun
OF - Mike Trout
OF - Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - Brett Lawrie
UTL - Adam LaRoche
Bench - Austin Jackson
DL - Aaron Hill Hanley Ramirez

SP - Clayton Kershaw, Madison Bumgarner, Ubaldo Jimenez, Jhoulys Chacin, Ervin Santana
RP - Glen Perkins, Heath Bell, Jose Veras, Ernesto Fireri, Edward Mujica, Carlos Marmol, J.J. Putz

RCL - Cracking the WHIP - Admiral Trey
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Jose Altuve
3B - Jedd Gyorko
SS - Jimmy Rollins
MI - Everth Cabrera
CI - Justin Morneau
OF - Jason Heyward, Shin-Soo Choo, Michael Morse, Nick Swisher, Ben Revere
UTL - Kendrys Morales
Bench - Garrett Jones, David Freese


SP - Justin Verlander, Cliff Lee, Ryan Dempster, Ubaldo Jimenez
RP - Jonathan Papelbon, John Axford, Glen Perkins, Ryan Cook, David Robertson

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Re: Trout trade

Postby Espinosa's Empanadas » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:38 am

We have a 1b/3b position that goldschmidt currently fills and I could use one of them at a UTIL position
c: Jesus Montero
1b: Anthony Rizzo
2b: Chase Utely/Danny Espinosa
3b: Miggy
ss: Jose Reyes
OF: Mike Trout, Desmond Jennings, Carlos Beltran, Matt Kemp, Drew Stubbs
1b/3b Goldshmidt
UTIL: Ike Davis
SP: Yovani Gallardo, Weaver, Tommy Hanson, Matt Harvey, Gio Gonzalez, Marcum, Fiers, Villanueva, McAllister, Cashner
RP: Kenley Janson, Janssen, Chapman, Wilhelmson, Parnell, Frank Francisco
Gl
H2H 10 Team
6P: ERA, WHIP, W, L, SV, K
6H: AVG, HR, R, RBI, SB, OPS

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Re: Trout trade

Postby Espinosa's Empanadas » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:46 am

Updated the sig btw, thanks
c: Jesus Montero
1b: Anthony Rizzo
2b: Chase Utely/Danny Espinosa
3b: Miggy
ss: Jose Reyes
OF: Mike Trout, Desmond Jennings, Carlos Beltran, Matt Kemp, Drew Stubbs
1b/3b Goldshmidt
UTIL: Ike Davis
SP: Yovani Gallardo, Weaver, Tommy Hanson, Matt Harvey, Gio Gonzalez, Marcum, Fiers, Villanueva, McAllister, Cashner
RP: Kenley Janson, Janssen, Chapman, Wilhelmson, Parnell, Frank Francisco
Gl
H2H 10 Team
6P: ERA, WHIP, W, L, SV, K
6H: AVG, HR, R, RBI, SB, OPS

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Re: Trout trade

Postby mvinnyshaw » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:47 am

i wouldnt..for admiral treys reasons..and you could get more
14 Team keeper ppr

Qb-Tony Romo
Wr1-Percy harvin
Wr2-Kenny Britt
Wr3-Demaryius Thomas
Rb1-Run DMC
Rb2-Demarco Murray
Te-Brent Celek
Wr/Te/Rb-Fred Jackson

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Kicker-Dan bailey
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Re: Trout trade

Postby AdmiralTrey » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:05 pm

Yeah, if you needed more depth on your team this deal would make sense because you're turning one absolute monster performer into three solid performers, but you don't really need any depth; you're going to wind up having to move other offensive players if you want an efficient roster... People sitting on the bench aren't helping your team. It's also risky with Longo having not played in forever... Butler is good and Pence is consistent, but even Pence has been absolutely terrible since late June.

Who is on the other manager's roster? I think you ought to hold unless he has two top notch players that he'd want to deal for Trout, and even then I'm not sure that you really need to move Trout.

12 Team H2H, 4 unrestricted keepers
C - Mike Napoli
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Jedd Gyorko
3B - Todd Frazier
SS - Jhonny Peralta
OF - Ryan Braun
OF - Mike Trout
OF - Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - Brett Lawrie
UTL - Adam LaRoche
Bench - Austin Jackson
DL - Aaron Hill Hanley Ramirez

SP - Clayton Kershaw, Madison Bumgarner, Ubaldo Jimenez, Jhoulys Chacin, Ervin Santana
RP - Glen Perkins, Heath Bell, Jose Veras, Ernesto Fireri, Edward Mujica, Carlos Marmol, J.J. Putz

RCL - Cracking the WHIP - Admiral Trey
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Jose Altuve
3B - Jedd Gyorko
SS - Jimmy Rollins
MI - Everth Cabrera
CI - Justin Morneau
OF - Jason Heyward, Shin-Soo Choo, Michael Morse, Nick Swisher, Ben Revere
UTL - Kendrys Morales
Bench - Garrett Jones, David Freese


SP - Justin Verlander, Cliff Lee, Ryan Dempster, Ubaldo Jimenez
RP - Jonathan Papelbon, John Axford, Glen Perkins, Ryan Cook, David Robertson

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Re: Trout trade

Postby Espinosa's Empanadas » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:28 pm

Other team: McCann, Adrian Gonzalez, Prince Fielder, Brandon Phillips, Beltre, Braun, Pence, Longoria, Tulo, Pence. I would have room for all 3 because of the 1b/3b position and UTIL (assuming I bench Goldschmidt who has been tearing it up) but I agree I'd rather make the deal for 2 great options than 3 decent ones.
c: Jesus Montero
1b: Anthony Rizzo
2b: Chase Utely/Danny Espinosa
3b: Miggy
ss: Jose Reyes
OF: Mike Trout, Desmond Jennings, Carlos Beltran, Matt Kemp, Drew Stubbs
1b/3b Goldshmidt
UTIL: Ike Davis
SP: Yovani Gallardo, Weaver, Tommy Hanson, Matt Harvey, Gio Gonzalez, Marcum, Fiers, Villanueva, McAllister, Cashner
RP: Kenley Janson, Janssen, Chapman, Wilhelmson, Parnell, Frank Francisco
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H2H 10 Team
6P: ERA, WHIP, W, L, SV, K
6H: AVG, HR, R, RBI, SB, OPS

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Re: Trout trade

Postby AdmiralTrey » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:22 pm

Yeah, Goldschmidt is a wasted commodity sitting on your bench... If you're interested in trading Trout, personally I think you ought to aim pretty high. One problem, though, is that this guy's strength seems to be corner infielders, which you're already pretty solid at. Maybe toss Trout and Rizzo out for Braun and Prince? I doubt he'd do that, but Troutmania is pretty strong right now. Rizzo has been hot, but he's got a pretty pathetic offense around him and he's bound to go through a Harper-like slump at some point.
Otherwise I'm not sure how much you stand to truly gain... Longo is a risk either way and Pence has been atrocious for five weeks and now is hitting in a more pitcher-friendly environment than he was in with Philadelphia. Butler has been producing pretty consistently all year so he's a nice addition to the deal no matter how you look at it, but I don't see this move actually improving your team even though it's a completely fair and even good deal in a vacuum.

Personally I'd explore options with other teams with 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 deals to consolidate your talent a bit more and then maybe this could be worth it, but as is I'm not sure that there's an option available without a decently big risk on your part.

12 Team H2H, 4 unrestricted keepers
C - Mike Napoli
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Jedd Gyorko
3B - Todd Frazier
SS - Jhonny Peralta
OF - Ryan Braun
OF - Mike Trout
OF - Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - Brett Lawrie
UTL - Adam LaRoche
Bench - Austin Jackson
DL - Aaron Hill Hanley Ramirez

SP - Clayton Kershaw, Madison Bumgarner, Ubaldo Jimenez, Jhoulys Chacin, Ervin Santana
RP - Glen Perkins, Heath Bell, Jose Veras, Ernesto Fireri, Edward Mujica, Carlos Marmol, J.J. Putz

RCL - Cracking the WHIP - Admiral Trey
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Jose Altuve
3B - Jedd Gyorko
SS - Jimmy Rollins
MI - Everth Cabrera
CI - Justin Morneau
OF - Jason Heyward, Shin-Soo Choo, Michael Morse, Nick Swisher, Ben Revere
UTL - Kendrys Morales
Bench - Garrett Jones, David Freese


SP - Justin Verlander, Cliff Lee, Ryan Dempster, Ubaldo Jimenez
RP - Jonathan Papelbon, John Axford, Glen Perkins, Ryan Cook, David Robertson

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Re: Trout trade

Postby Espinosa's Empanadas » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:15 pm

Yeah I agree. The more I look at the original trade the less I like it. Not sure I could pull off getting those 2, but definitely going to aim higher if I deal Trout at all. Thanks
c: Jesus Montero
1b: Anthony Rizzo
2b: Chase Utely/Danny Espinosa
3b: Miggy
ss: Jose Reyes
OF: Mike Trout, Desmond Jennings, Carlos Beltran, Matt Kemp, Drew Stubbs
1b/3b Goldshmidt
UTIL: Ike Davis
SP: Yovani Gallardo, Weaver, Tommy Hanson, Matt Harvey, Gio Gonzalez, Marcum, Fiers, Villanueva, McAllister, Cashner
RP: Kenley Janson, Janssen, Chapman, Wilhelmson, Parnell, Frank Francisco
Gl
H2H 10 Team
6P: ERA, WHIP, W, L, SV, K
6H: AVG, HR, R, RBI, SB, OPS


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