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 Post subject: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:58 pm 
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Two possible trades...My team is in the signature...

1. I was just offered his Votto/Bourn for my AGon. I probably don't need to do this trade, but I do love me some Votto. Thoughts?


2. This trade hasn't been proposed but I'm thinking about countering with it so how about Votto/Werth for AGon/Bay?

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:41 pm 
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I like that counter but I wonder if he'll go for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:51 pm 
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I have Votto and Phillips and i love having them back to back in the lineup. I think Votto will end up having a better year than AGon. I like the counter also. Get Votto.

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:17 pm 
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As I pretty much guessed, he rejected the counter offer...

I don't really like or want Bourn but I could possibly trade him for another piece, so should I go with the original offer of Votto/Bourn for my AGon?

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:40 pm 
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If you did that deal I guess you would drop Desmond? I am not crazy about that deal for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:43 pm 
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Yeah... I think you hang on to Gonzalez unless the guy dazzles you with an offer because all things equal I'd want Gonzalez. Bourn is floating around the free agent pool in both my 12 team H2H leagues.

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:44 pm 
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id maybe try another counter...but i wouldnt do the deal he proposed.

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:48 pm 
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Yea, I don't like it much either but was seeing if someone could convince me otherwise. And I don't know if I have anything else that he wants so I guess I'll have to wait until later in the year to grab me some Votto.

Thanks for all the help.

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LF Brandon Moss
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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:12 pm 
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Guess I'm the odd one out in that I'd take Votto and Bourn for AGon. I think Votto outperforms AGon all by himself and subbing Bourn in for McLouth looks like a good idea to me. Could use some more speed other than Reyes/Wright anyhow.

I'd drop Franklin Morales to make room as you have plenty of closers already.

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 Post subject: Re: Votto/Bourn for AGon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:01 pm 
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Thanks havok, you've put me back on the fence, haha. I mean I agree Votto is gonna be really good this year and probably the all around better player, but I just haven't decided if I need AGon's little bit of extra power more than I need Votto's other stats. Right now, my team is operating beneath its power threshold and its costing me in my H2H. So, it's a kind of a toss up for me.

Grey, you watching this thread at all?

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SS Elvis Andrus
LF Brandon Moss
CF Grégory Polanco
RF Jayson Werth
Utl Brandon Belt
BN Alex Rios
BN Jason Heyward
BN Matt Holiday

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