Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

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Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby tooms » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:26 pm

I'm trying to trade Hardy and Burrell for Manny and Zobrist in a keeper league. Manny has an expiring contract so he is a free agent next year, everyone else was drafted this year.... I'm going to offer this plus my 6th round pick next year... Is that too little? Too much? Its so hard to gauge when picks are involved. Should I maybe up to a 4th round pick? Mind you most great players have expiring contracts, so a 4th or 6th rounder would be approximately a 5th or 7th round pick in a non-keeper draft. Also I am in contention right now, he is not... so he's not really playing for anything unless he feels he can make a very dramatic comeback from 2nd to last.

12 team 7x7 roto keeper* (add'l cats: KO, OPS & HLD, QS)

Keepers:
1B: L. Berkman
2B: I. Kinsler
3B: D. Wright*
OF: J. Bautista*
OF: J. Hamilton
SP: C. Kershaw*
RP: C. Kimbrel

Minors:
SS: Dee Gordon
SP: Brad Peacock
SP: Henderson Alvarez

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Re: Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby Grey » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:31 pm

tooms wrote:I'm trying to trade Hardy and Burrell for Manny and Zobrist in a keeper league. Manny has an expiring contract so he is a free agent next year, everyone else was drafted this year.... I'm going to offer this plus my 6th round pick next year... Is that too little? Too much? Its so hard to gauge when picks are involved. Should I maybe up to a 4th round pick? Mind you most great players have expiring contracts, so a 4th or 6th rounder would be approximately a 5th or 7th round pick in a non-keeper draft. Also I am in contention right now, he is not... so he's not really playing for anything unless he feels he can make a very dramatic comeback from 2nd to last.


I don't think it's too much, may be slightly too little, but you never know how the other person feels so it's worth offering it.
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Re: Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby tooms » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:34 pm

And really is there any worry whatsoever of Zobrist losing playing time? This guy is on fire, where the F did he come from!

12 team 7x7 roto keeper* (add'l cats: KO, OPS & HLD, QS)

Keepers:
1B: L. Berkman
2B: I. Kinsler
3B: D. Wright*
OF: J. Bautista*
OF: J. Hamilton
SP: C. Kershaw*
RP: C. Kimbrel

Minors:
SS: Dee Gordon
SP: Brad Peacock
SP: Henderson Alvarez

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Re: Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby Grey » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:06 pm

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If you want me to look at your team, post the team. Don't post a link to another site where the team is.
Have you given me all the info I need to judge your team? The number of teams in the league is a good start for the big overall questions.
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If you only have one team, post your team in your signature with the league parameters.
I don't know every single matchup for next week, so if you want me to choose a player for the following week and you think the matchups are important, tell me who they're facing.

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Re: Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby Stumanji » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:04 am

Grey wrote:Heaven


Amen.
12 tm roto keeper (keepers*), R, HR, RBI, SB, OPS, ERA, WHIP, K/9, Net Sv, QS

C: Sal Perez
1B: Butler*
2B: Phillips*
SS: A. Escobar
3B: Sandoval
MI: Altuve
CI: Frazier
OF: Trout*
OF: Bruce*
OF: Des Jennings
OF: Fowler
Util: V-Mart
Bench Bats: Berkman, Chris Carter, Leonys Martin
Minors: B. Hamilton*
Minors: Arenado*
Minors: Eaton
SP: Felix*
SP: Bumgarner*
SP: Morrow
SP: Niese
SP: Minor
RP: Kenley Jansen
RP: Janssen
RP: Fujikawa
Bench Arms: Gee, Cashner, Porcello
Minors: Bauer

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Re: Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby tooms » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:50 am

It has come down to this...

Hardy/Burrell/Baker for Zobrist/Manny/McCann plus my 6th & 8th for his 19th & 21st.

McCann is also an expiring contract... he wants to get more picks so he is trying to work in other elements... also you have to understand this trade would definitely put in position to just dominate and hopefully coast the rest of the season.

My real concerns are: Manny is coming off of a PED suspension... and is now presumably clean... so what type of Manny am I getting? Is he going to be a different bat or can I expect more of the same... Am I worrying for nothing here? And Zobrist, can he really keep up anything close to this pace? Is he worth the trade in pick? Is Hardy really going to keep up his awful pace or are things just going to correct themselves?

12 team 7x7 roto keeper* (add'l cats: KO, OPS & HLD, QS)

Keepers:
1B: L. Berkman
2B: I. Kinsler
3B: D. Wright*
OF: J. Bautista*
OF: J. Hamilton
SP: C. Kershaw*
RP: C. Kimbrel

Minors:
SS: Dee Gordon
SP: Brad Peacock
SP: Henderson Alvarez

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Re: Hardy/Burrell plus a pick for Manny/Zobrist?

Postby Grey » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:18 pm

tooms wrote:It has come down to this...

Hardy/Burrell/Baker for Zobrist/Manny/McCann plus my 6th & 8th for his 19th & 21st.

McCann is also an expiring contract... he wants to get more picks so he is trying to work in other elements... also you have to understand this trade would definitely put in position to just dominate and hopefully coast the rest of the season.

My real concerns are: Manny is coming off of a PED suspension... and is now presumably clean... so what type of Manny am I getting? Is he going to be a different bat or can I expect more of the same... Am I worrying for nothing here? And Zobrist, can he really keep up anything close to this pace? Is he worth the trade in pick? Is Hardy really going to keep up his awful pace or are things just going to correct themselves?


I'd want the Zobrist side and that trade is so lopsided even if your questions are all answered in the negative it's still in your favor.
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If you want me to look at your team, post the team. Don't post a link to another site where the team is.
Have you given me all the info I need to judge your team? The number of teams in the league is a good start for the big overall questions.
Is your league H2H? Roto?
I don't know who's on your waivers. Don't just ask me who you should pick up. Give me names to choose from.
If you only have one team, post your team in your signature with the league parameters.
I don't know every single matchup for next week, so if you want me to choose a player for the following week and you think the matchups are important, tell me who they're facing.


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