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 Post subject: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:17 am 
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Give CC, J. Reddick and R. Soriano

Get A. McCutchen


8 team non-keeper ROTO
hitting: R, AVG, SB, OPS, HR, RBI, E
pitching: W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, CG 1500 Inning limit (at 640)

M. Napoli
J. Votto
J. Altuve
W. Middlebrooks
A. Escobar
D. Ortiz
J. Rollins
R. Braun
M. Trout
J. Reddick
C. Beltran
Y. Cespedes
C. Quentin
A. Rizzo
C. Utley(DL)

SP
J. Peavy
CC Sabathia
C. Lee
L. Lynn
R. Oswalt
T. Bauer

RP
C. Kimbrel
J. Nathan
A. Reed
K. Jansen
R. Soriano
R. Cook
H. Street
A. Bailey (DL)

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8 team non-keeper ROTO
hitting: R, AVG, SB, OPS, HR, RBI, E
pitching: W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, CG 1500 Inning limit (at 1326)

C J. Lucroy
1B J. Votto
2B D. Uggla
3B A. Ramirez
SS J. Rollins
CI A. Rizzo
MI J. Keppinger
LF R. Braun
CF M. Trout
RF T. Hunter
OF A. McCutchen
UT Y. Cespedes
UT H. Kendrick
BN A. Pagen
BN B. Moss
BN C. Jones
BN J. Jay
BN J. Kozma
BN W. Rosairo

SP
J. Hefner
T. Wood
C. Lee
R. Vogelsong
R. Dempster
I. Kennedy


RP
C. Kimbrel


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:17 pm 
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Sounds fair...

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Is your league H2H? Roto?
I don't know who's on your waivers. Don't just ask me who you should pick up. Give me names to choose from.
If you only have one team, post your team in your signature with the league parameters.
I don't know every single matchup for next week, so if you want me to choose a player for the following week and you think the matchups are important, tell me who they're facing.


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:14 pm 
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I wouldn't do that deal.

CC will be back soon and Soriano will most likely keep the Yanks' closer job all year. Plus, your OF already looks solid. You have more of a need at SP.

Also, McCutch sustained a wrist injury today.

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C- Willin Rosario
1B- Paul Goldschmidt
2B- Jose Altuve
3B- Evan Longoria
SS- Starlin Castro
OF- Ryan Braun
OF- Adam Jones
OF- Justin Upton
UTIL- Dayan Viciedo
DL- Jose Reyes

SP- Felix Hernandez
SP- Matt Cain
SP- C.J. WIlson
SP- Alex Cobb
SP- Kevin Gregg
RP- Chris Perez
RP- Rafael Soriano
RP- Jose Valverde
RP- Joel Peralta
RP- Chad Qualls


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:02 pm 
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the guys is paying for saves...McCutchen is a beast...gives you points in all categories...you get the best player in the deal...you still need to find some pitching...you can stream a pitcher playing matchups...you have a lot of assets to trade for a pitcher too...

...you have too many RPs...I wouldn't worry about losing Soriano...you will have to fill CC's shoes...and depending on your bench spots...you may be too loaded with hitters...perhaps you can make this deal bigger...it would be good for you to get some more pitching so that you could play matchups and make effective use of your innings limit

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10-team mixed keeper league (15 keepers), H2H - 1 Win R/HR/RBI/SB/AVG/OPS/W/CG/SHO/SV/K/ERA/WHIP/QS
29 rostered
HITTERS:
Lineup (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/LF/CF/RF/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN):
C - S. Perez
1B - A. Rizzo
2B - J. Kipnis
SS - T. Tulowitzki
3B - A. Beltre
OF - M. Trout, A. McCutchen, B. Harper
UTIL - J. Upton, E. Hosmer, A. Cabrera, EMPTY
DL - G. Stanton, K. Youkilis N/A slot: J. Profar

PITCHERS: (Lineup: 4 SP, 2 RP, 2 P)
SP - S. Strasburg, A. Wainwright, G. Gonzalez, M. Moore, K. Medlen, H. Iwakuma, S. Miller, W. Miley, A. Cobb, J. Garcia, H. Ryu, T. Cingrani, J. Hammel
RP - A. Chapman, A. Reed, J. Henderson, J. Tazawa, H. Bell


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:08 pm 
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Grey is right...it's a fair deal...but ohbilly's right too...sure he looks stone in the pic...but you have too many hitters...and you are giving away your best and most consistent pitcher...your league is about quality SP innings...I don't think I'd be holding Rizzo in an 8-team league...and with your other weapons...most hitters play every day...or almost every day...

...you need quality pitching...make your innings count...

...let us know what SPs are on your wire...I don't have a huge problem with carrying a lot of closers...as more often than not, you'll get quality innings...but closers are harder to predict...with SPs you can play matchups...I guy like Bauer is nice to own...but he's going to bring a lot of walks, among other things, with him and your WHIP will be affected

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10-team mixed keeper league (15 keepers), H2H - 1 Win R/HR/RBI/SB/AVG/OPS/W/CG/SHO/SV/K/ERA/WHIP/QS
29 rostered
HITTERS:
Lineup (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/LF/CF/RF/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN):
C - S. Perez
1B - A. Rizzo
2B - J. Kipnis
SS - T. Tulowitzki
3B - A. Beltre
OF - M. Trout, A. McCutchen, B. Harper
UTIL - J. Upton, E. Hosmer, A. Cabrera, EMPTY
DL - G. Stanton, K. Youkilis N/A slot: J. Profar

PITCHERS: (Lineup: 4 SP, 2 RP, 2 P)
SP - S. Strasburg, A. Wainwright, G. Gonzalez, M. Moore, K. Medlen, H. Iwakuma, S. Miller, W. Miley, A. Cobb, J. Garcia, H. Ryu, T. Cingrani, J. Hammel
RP - A. Chapman, A. Reed, J. Henderson, J. Tazawa, H. Bell


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:13 pm 
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who would you try to get for SP?

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8 team non-keeper ROTO
hitting: R, AVG, SB, OPS, HR, RBI, E
pitching: W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, CG 1500 Inning limit (at 1326)

C J. Lucroy
1B J. Votto
2B D. Uggla
3B A. Ramirez
SS J. Rollins
CI A. Rizzo
MI J. Keppinger
LF R. Braun
CF M. Trout
RF T. Hunter
OF A. McCutchen
UT Y. Cespedes
UT H. Kendrick
BN A. Pagen
BN B. Moss
BN C. Jones
BN J. Jay
BN J. Kozma
BN W. Rosairo

SP
J. Hefner
T. Wood
C. Lee
R. Vogelsong
R. Dempster
I. Kennedy


RP
C. Kimbrel


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC? Your thoughts Grey?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:22 am 
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buy-low candidates based on my observations (general and seeing some of Grey's comments on here):

First list is for guys that owners might be getting tired of and/or might be undervalued for whatever reason....Second list involve pitchers that might have more risk...it would be good for forum readers to comment on who might have been left out...if someone deserves to be on another list?...hopefully Grey reads this...and others...would be good to start a new forum post me thinks

Buy Low:
Anibal Sanchez
John Lester
Roy Halladay (maybe this long rest will have done him some good; not extreme buy low but you never know until you ask (his owner))
Cliff Lee (you own him...Great..this is for other readers)
Yovani Gallardo (not really a big buy low, but he's been mediocre, might be undervalued by owner)
A.J. Burnett (not a stud pitcher but has some tools, may be undervalued)
Josh Johnson (not really buy low but may be undervalued
C.C. Sabbathia (on DL, may be undervalued)
Ian Kennedy (not sure how risky he is, but is underperforming, may be undervalued)
Matt Moore (should have a better second half; is a big buy low for keeper leagues; may be undervalued)
James Shields (may be undervalued)
Brandon Morrow (on DL; can pitch complete games, which is maybe why he strained his oblique...lol...may be undervalued, or frustrated owner)
Shawn Marcum: on DL; buyer beware; but keep the price reasonable


Buy Low (Risky) (some on this list have seen improvements, they are not necessarily buy low, but owners might give them away for little given the risks...can't buy really really low for some but don't give up too, too much)

Dan Haren (you gotta think there is a better pitcher living in his body somewhere; he's not a stud; but you might be able to get him for little)

Latos (buy low window may have closed, but who knows)

Lincecum (buy really, really low...he's not the Lincecum of old but might be worth the risk of acquiring)

Garza (hasn't been steady, but move to a good team to could give him run support)

Brandon McCarthy (on DL, might get traded, good pitcher, not a great pitcher; better run support might help)

James McDonald (Pirates are providing good run support, good pitcher; wouldn't give up much since he doesn't have a long track record)

Max Scherzer: where there is risk there may be some reward; has awesome stuff; but loses his head in some games; I traded him for Anibal

Adam Wainwright: before his last start, I would have put him on the top list

Yu Darvish: I'm not sold on Yu...but he has good run support...good K potential...walks too many...I wouldn't pay much for him...but might be worth the risk and the price for another owner with too many pitchers (if you can have that)

Ricky Romero: wouldn't pay much

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10-team mixed keeper league (15 keepers), H2H - 1 Win R/HR/RBI/SB/AVG/OPS/W/CG/SHO/SV/K/ERA/WHIP/QS
29 rostered
HITTERS:
Lineup (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/LF/CF/RF/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/UTIL/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN/BN):
C - S. Perez
1B - A. Rizzo
2B - J. Kipnis
SS - T. Tulowitzki
3B - A. Beltre
OF - M. Trout, A. McCutchen, B. Harper
UTIL - J. Upton, E. Hosmer, A. Cabrera, EMPTY
DL - G. Stanton, K. Youkilis N/A slot: J. Profar

PITCHERS: (Lineup: 4 SP, 2 RP, 2 P)
SP - S. Strasburg, A. Wainwright, G. Gonzalez, M. Moore, K. Medlen, H. Iwakuma, S. Miller, W. Miley, A. Cobb, J. Garcia, H. Ryu, T. Cingrani, J. Hammel
RP - A. Chapman, A. Reed, J. Henderson, J. Tazawa, H. Bell


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:50 pm 
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1st group are FA but on DL
B. Morrow
D. Hudson
C. Luebke
J. Garcia
R. Dempster
T. Lily
D. Holland
C. Lewis
C. Buchholz
B. McCarthy

Then the FA
R. Volgelsong
AJ Burnett
C. Furbush
S. Diamond
M. Buehrle
T. Milone
M. Fiers
J. Quintana
V. Worley
T. Hudson
B. Lincoln
R. Detwiler
W. Rodriguez
F. Morales
I. Nova

Guys in our league with Halladay, Garza, Latos, Verlander, Weaver, Cain, Dickey, Scherzer, Hernandez, Cueto, Beckett and Price are inactive

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8 team non-keeper ROTO
hitting: R, AVG, SB, OPS, HR, RBI, E
pitching: W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, CG 1500 Inning limit (at 1326)

C J. Lucroy
1B J. Votto
2B D. Uggla
3B A. Ramirez
SS J. Rollins
CI A. Rizzo
MI J. Keppinger
LF R. Braun
CF M. Trout
RF T. Hunter
OF A. McCutchen
UT Y. Cespedes
UT H. Kendrick
BN A. Pagen
BN B. Moss
BN C. Jones
BN J. Jay
BN J. Kozma
BN W. Rosairo

SP
J. Hefner
T. Wood
C. Lee
R. Vogelsong
R. Dempster
I. Kennedy


RP
C. Kimbrel


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:52 pm 
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I appreciate the info. I haven't played Fantasy in about 5 years and then I only played H2H so Thank You all.

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8 team non-keeper ROTO
hitting: R, AVG, SB, OPS, HR, RBI, E
pitching: W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, CG 1500 Inning limit (at 1326)

C J. Lucroy
1B J. Votto
2B D. Uggla
3B A. Ramirez
SS J. Rollins
CI A. Rizzo
MI J. Keppinger
LF R. Braun
CF M. Trout
RF T. Hunter
OF A. McCutchen
UT Y. Cespedes
UT H. Kendrick
BN A. Pagen
BN B. Moss
BN C. Jones
BN J. Jay
BN J. Kozma
BN W. Rosairo

SP
J. Hefner
T. Wood
C. Lee
R. Vogelsong
R. Dempster
I. Kennedy


RP
C. Kimbrel


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 Post subject: Re: Time to trade CC?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:51 pm 
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Also
E. Santana
B. Norris
G. Floyd
C. Billingsley
E. Bedard
M. Minor
F. Liriano
E. Volquez
T. Cahill
J. Masterson

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8 team non-keeper ROTO
hitting: R, AVG, SB, OPS, HR, RBI, E
pitching: W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, CG 1500 Inning limit (at 1326)

C J. Lucroy
1B J. Votto
2B D. Uggla
3B A. Ramirez
SS J. Rollins
CI A. Rizzo
MI J. Keppinger
LF R. Braun
CF M. Trout
RF T. Hunter
OF A. McCutchen
UT Y. Cespedes
UT H. Kendrick
BN A. Pagen
BN B. Moss
BN C. Jones
BN J. Jay
BN J. Kozma
BN W. Rosairo

SP
J. Hefner
T. Wood
C. Lee
R. Vogelsong
R. Dempster
I. Kennedy


RP
C. Kimbrel


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