Lind and Victorino

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Lind and Victorino

Postby IowaCubs » Tue May 05, 2009 2:29 pm

I think that it's safe to say that Adam Lind has grown into a #2 fantasy outfielder. He's on pace to do something amazing this year.

That said, is it safe to trade someone like Victorino for Lind at this point? I have a team that needs the HR/RBI help. Thoughts?
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Re: Lind and Victorino

Postby Beane Disciple » Tue May 05, 2009 2:34 pm

It is not safe to say that Lind is a solid #2 yet. I think you would be taking too much of a risk in giving up Victorino for him.

Much of Lind's value is derived from the head-scratchingly over-productive Toronto offense that will grind to a hault at some point. Victorino has a great lineup position on a great offense. You have to also take into consideration the fact that Howard and Rollins have been horrible thus far.

This trade would be the classic "sell low, buy high." You want to do that to the other guy. Wait until Lind has a cold streak and you'll be able to steal him because his owner will be desperate to get some sort of value for him.
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RF- De Aza
UTIL- Maybin
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Re: Lind and Victorino

Postby IowaCubs » Tue May 05, 2009 2:44 pm

I don't know man... Victorino's ISO of .191 is completely out of whack with his career .143, he's due for a regression. I don't think I'd be selling low on Victorino. Sure Lind has an unsustainable BABIP, but I believe that we're seeing the beginnings of this year's Ludwick.
14 team h2h keeper (keep 5), $101 FAAB budget. C,1B,2B,SS,3B,MI,CI,U,5SP,2RP... It's standard 5x5, but we use quality starts instead of wins. I currently have $1 left in FAAB money.

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Castro, Jason(C) HOU
Goldschmidt, Paul(1B) ARI
Carpenter, Matt(2B) STL
Longoria, Evan(3B) TB
Zobrist, Ben(,SS) TB
Profar, Jurickson(MI) TEX
Rodriguez, Alex(CI) NYY
Davis, Rajai(OF) TOR
Jones, Adam(OF) BAL
Trout, Mike(OF) LAA
Young, Eric(OF) NYM
Bogaerts, Xander(UT) BOS

Buxton, Byron(OF) MIN
Stanton, Giancarlo(OF) MIA

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Corbin, Patrick(SP) ARI
Gonzalez, Gio(SP) WAS
Latos, Mat(SP) CIN
Liriano, Francisco(SP) PIT
Minor, Mike(SP) ATL
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Re: Lind and Victorino

Postby Beane Disciple » Tue May 05, 2009 2:51 pm

I think you can get more value for Victorino and give up less value to get Lind. I would package Victorino w/ someone to upgrade at a position and then give up a player/multiple players with cheap replacement value to get Lind. You are probably right about the math but you are ignoring the perception/emotional aspect of it.

What about:
Victorino, (some other valuable player, Outfielder preferably) for Sizemore or Braun?

I just don't think you'll have a problem putting a deal together for Lind.
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2B- Cuddyer
SS- Hanley
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RF- De Aza
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UTIL-Lind
B: Ackley
B: Dunn
B: Ryan Roberts

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P- Josh Johnson
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Re: Lind and Victorino

Postby cws05nuts » Tue May 05, 2009 3:10 pm

Wasn't Victorino a top 15 outfielder last year? And on pace to do better this year?
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