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 Post subject: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:59 am 
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One of these days I'm going to actually pull off one of these trades I keep thinking about. Here's the latest:

The guy in last place in my league has Lance Berkman and lives in San Francisco. He's close to last in everything except HR, RBI, W, and SV. I proposed (merely as an opening salvo): my Adam LaRoche and Matt Cain for his Lance Berkman.

He countered with Berkman and Todd Coffey (!) for Cain and Votto. I've got no interest in Coffey, and I'd be willing to part with Votto if the return was good enough, but I feel like Votto plus Cain is too much for Berkman alone. Any other permutations you can see that might work out better? As before, my biggest needs so far are Runs and SBs, though I could use some help with all of my offensive categories.

His roster:
C: Napoli
1B: Berkman
2B: Kendrick
3B: Atkins
SS: Hanley
OF: Soriano
OF: McLouth
OF: Ordonez
Util: Cameron
Util: Konerko
BN: Inge, Posada, Jose Lopez, Hardy

SP: Millwood, Lohse, F-Her, Sanchez, Buehrle, Dice-K
RP: Nathan, Cordero, Wilson, Coffey
DL: Webb, Duch

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RP: Joe Nathan
P: Greg Holland
P: Chris Perez
P: Bobby Parnell
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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:12 pm 
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One of these days I'm going to actually pull off one of these trades I keep thinking about. Here's the latest:

The guy in last place in my league has Lance Berkman and lives in San Francisco. He's close to last in everything except HR, RBI, W, and SV. I proposed (merely as an opening salvo): my Adam LaRoche and Matt Cain for his Lance Berkman.

He countered with Berkman and Todd Coffey (!) for Cain and Votto. I've got no interest in Coffey, and I'd be willing to part with Votto if the return was good enough, but I feel like Votto plus Cain is too much for Berkman alone. Any other permutations you can see that might work out better? As before, my biggest needs so far are Runs and SBs, though I could use some help with all of my offensive categories.

His roster:
C: Napoli
1B: Berkman
2B: Kendrick
3B: Atkins
SS: Hanley
OF: Soriano
OF: McLouth
OF: Ordonez
Util: Cameron
Util: Konerko
BN: Inge, Posada, Jose Lopez, Hardy

SP: Millwood, Lohse, F-Her, Sanchez, Buehrle, Dice-K
RP: Nathan, Cordero, Wilson, Coffey
DL: Webb, Duch


Berkman for Votto and Hoff?

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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:23 pm 
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That sounds good -- I like the idea of using my surplus in closers to upgrade (presumably) from Votto to Berkman.

But I'd still like to sell high on Cain, if I can. Any ideas on possible trades involving him?

Thanks again for all of your helpful suggestions. You've got a long overdue daquiri coming from me once I remember my paypall password.


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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:25 pm 
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I don't think Cain's a sell high and I'd want at least McLouth.

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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:05 pm 
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Sadly, Hoffman & Votto was rejected -- Saves is one of the few categories where he doesn't need any help.

Meanwhile, I'm still in discussions with the guy who needs closers and has a surplus of OFs, including Hamilton, Bay, Granderson, Dunn, Ibanez, and Victorino. I offered Fuentes & Ethier for Bay, but he's only interested in Rivera or one of my top pitchers (Halladay or Vazquez). He's offered Granderson for Rivera in the past, so I assume he'd be interested in that still. I'm sort of tempted, but it depends on which version of Granderson I'd get. 2007 would be worth it, but 2008 not so much. Then again, I think this sequence might leave me better off overall:

1) Mariano Rivera for Curtis Granderson
2) Andre Ethier and Matt Cain for Lance Berkman (if accepted)

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1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Jose Altuve
SS: Nick Franklin
3B: Ryan Zimmerman
OF: Starling Marte
OF: Shin-Soo Choo
OF: Domonic Brown
UT: Paul Goldschmidt
UT: Giancarlo Stanton
BN: Starlin Castro, Manny Machado, Leonys Martin, Yoenis Cespedes

SP: Cliff Lee
RP: Joe Nathan
P: Greg Holland
P: Chris Perez
P: Bobby Parnell
P: Edward Mujica
P: Jeff Samardzija
P: Kris Medlen
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DL: Brandon Beachy
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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:07 pm 
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I like both for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:34 pm 
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Sweet. Both trade offers have been accepted, and now I await the BABIP regression.


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 Post subject: Re: Buy-Low Berkman #2
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