Comments on: Fantasy Roundtable: Winning From Behind

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:41:12 +0000

@Thunder Dan: No prob. Good luck in the Lincecum negotiations - it'll be hard to get full value for him since people hate giving up top hitters but hopefully you get at least one top hitter for them (Crawford would be a nice pull given your speed need) @Aaron Pil: Thanks!

By: Aaron Pil

Aaron Pil — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:07:35 +0000

Rudy, you gave the best advice on the round table. Your going to need to take some risks to try and win.

By: Thunder Dan

Thunder Dan — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:08:41 +0000

Re: Johan for Papi/Holliday

I wouldn’t veto it, but I wouldn’t accept that deal either (unless I was the one getting Johan).

Hell, Rudy thinks I should ask for more than Pedroia/Ellsbury for Lincecum (thanks, btw). I value those two pitchers just about equally, and I’d take the BoSox pair over your two underachievers any day.

By: Tony Y

Tony Y — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:38:02 +0000

@BigFatHippo: hippo i posted your message along with 3 others and some more from fantasy cafe….. unreal, there’s 4 votes to shoot down me getting JOHAN for papi/holliday…. which i think i’m winning big, but hell johan has been blown up 2 starts in a row and given up a HR in his last 5 or 6 straight! PLUS its pretty much just a case of people are angry because its a 12 team H2H deal, 20 cats, and i’m in first and getting JOHAN, and they’re pee’ing a little down their legs…. oh well.

Here’s my theory i hope it goes thru. If it doesn’t I hope Johan has an arm prob and Holliday gets dealt to boston? and then Papi reverts back to BIG PAPI and i laugh in all their faces!

By: RIP Harry

RIP Harry — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:23:26 +0000

Anyone got a midseason league I can get into?

By: AL KOHOLIC

AL KOHOLIC — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:06:17 +0000

@BigFatHippo: you havent sent me a trade yet?

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:52:09 +0000

@AL KOHOLIC: Exactly, Miller Chill……………..

By: AL KOHOLIC

AL KOHOLIC — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:41:34 +0000

@BigFatHippo: tell them to have a drink and chill

By: BigFatHippo

BigFatHippo — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:38:34 +0000

@Tony Y: Not even close to a veto.

Clearly the guy has an abundance of pitching and needs bats. He’s hoping for a hot 2nd half from both those guys. Your league needs to chill out, tell em Hippo said so…………

By: paulzone

paulzone — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:31:44 +0000

one more…pick two of these three closers:

gonzalez, qualls, downs

By: paulzone

paulzone — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:28:26 +0000

how about offering haren for carlos lee?

By: paulzone

paulzone — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:27:12 +0000

@Tony Y: sorry i am offering haren/hill for one of them. crawford plays left field now that ibanez is out..too much?

By: Tony Y

Tony Y — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:26:13 +0000

Holliday/Papi for Johan VETOABLE????

ANYONE?

By: AL KOHOLIC

AL KOHOLIC — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:19:27 +0000

@Jpm: id try scott or elsbury,hate to trade cruzzer

By: Seattle Zen

Seattle Zen — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:15:19 +0000

I am so tired of reading this vapid piece of advice: Pick up some Middle Relievers! Wow, their ERA and WHIPs are great and you get free wins!

Well, if you look backwards, sure, it’s easy to see the wisdom of having so-n-so on your squad, but I have rarely seen anyone confident enough to propose you pick up Player X. Why? Well, in this post-steroid era, MR’s are not nearly as reliable as they used to be. Try chasing the hot MR of the moment, you know, after he lands two quick wins and a vulture save and you’ll just as likely get two stinkers in his next 10 appearances, giving you a craptastic 5.80 ERA and 1.78 WHIP.

Go ahead, let your hopes of winning ride on Seth McClung, go right ahead.

By: Tony Y

Tony Y — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:57:12 +0000

@Doc: you jinxed Haren, as soon as you wrote 5-0 lead he gives up 2.... still a SOLID outting tho @paulzone: keep beltran and wright.... Is holliday/Papi for JOHAN vetoable? I'm getting some uproar in my league because i just accepted johan....?

By: paulzone

paulzone — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:53:19 +0000

considering hill/haren for crawford or beltran or wright.

which one do you like most or too much for one player?

ps. ibanez out hurts too (considering we play outfield positions)

By: Doc

Doc — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:03:54 +0000

@Doc: Whoops, make that 4 earned for Chokevar.

By: Doc

Doc — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:02:14 +0000

Does Dan Haren actually have a 5-0 lead? this will be a good time for him to implode of course. Hochevar has 5 runs against him, but none earned?

By: EricB

EricB — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:13:52 +0000

Currently I have Aramis Ramirez on my bench due to injury. He should be back soon. Before he went down, he was my corner infielder. Teixeira is at 1B. Wright at 3B. Figgins at CI now. I picked up Todd Helton in early May shortly after Ramirez went down, and he’s been filling in since then.

My outfielders are Carlos Lee, Soriano, Pence, Kemp, and Colby Rasmus. Middle infielders are Ian Stewart, Stephen Drew, and Brandon Phillips. Catchers Kurt Suzuki and Iannetta. I see that 5th OF slot (Rasmus) as the weakness. Do you agree?

With that lineup I rank 6th of 10 teams in HRs. I need to boost the power. I’m 2nd/3rd in SBs and can’t afford to lose much there without a precipitous drop. The plan is to trade Todd Helton when Ramirez returns.

Finally, here’s the question: What kind of power-hitting OF do you think I could get straight up for Helton? What if I packaged Helton with Clayton Kershaw for an OF? Who should I expect in return?

By: clyde prompto

clyde prompto — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:53:21 +0000

12 team AL only auction style keeper league. to keep a player, next year you add $5 to what you paid at auction. was offered jensen lewis/zobrist for my fuentes/franklin gutierrez. fuentes is my only save source, but zobrist would only be $7 out of my $260 budget next season. we play with CI/MI so decent players are at a premium. is he too much of a bargain to pass up? for a reference point, jhonny peralta went for $26 this year. the bidder was drunk, but so was everyone else.

By: Jpm

Jpm — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:34:38 +0000

Just drafted a mid-season team and I have an excess of good outfielders (N. Cruz, Ellsbury, Crawford, Adam Jones, Luke Scott), as I can only start 3. I’m weak at 2b and another team has an excess of 2bs. Would Cruz for Aaron Hill be a fair trade?

By: Simply Fred

Simply Fred — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:02:18 +0000

@Rudy Gamble: JUST got back from the Tetons and sighting moose. The "F-d with moose antlers" takes a little away from the experience.

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:02:05 +0000

@Tony Y: I think Johan's definitely the more attractive side of the trade (although his health is in a little question now) but it's not veto-worthy.

By: Tony Y

Tony Y — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:59:04 +0000

A guy just went collusion crazy in my league.

I’m in first he’s in second and I just accepted Johan Santana for my Holliday/Big Papi….

For one there’s no collusion. I’m dealing with the guy who won the league last year and quite frankly i dont like him! LOL

Does anyone see that trade so lopsided it should be vetoed? Hell Papi’s been hitting, holliday’s been batting .290 since may, and could get traded to a contender real soon….????

By: Simply Fred

Simply Fred — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:57:50 +0000

@Doc: sorry, keep forgetting the reference, see above.

By: Simply Fred

Simply Fred — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:57:07 +0000

Beckett, last 3 years:
Pre-allstar: 11-4, 4.75, 110 IP, 92K, in 19 GS
Post-allstar: 5-7, 5.32, 94.2 IP, 66 K in 15 GS

Bruce, last year:
Pre-allstar: .270/.335/.429 with 6HR in 163 ABs
Post-allstar: .244/.300/.468 with 15 Hr IN 250 ABs

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:54:18 +0000

@Simply Fred: Ha…thanks. I didn’t download the totals but it would’ve been easy to figure out – just deduct Utley’s stats with the most likely hitter I would’ve had in the slot and Santana’s stats would replace the SP I used as his replacement. Given that Utley had a (relatively) poor 2H and Santana was lights out, there’s no doubt Johan was more valuable (hell, I had him #4 overall – he probably was 2nd overall to CC in the 2nd half). His value would’ve been less on my team since I already had a strong half of pitching to start with. So I just needed Utley to be close to as valuable as Johan for it to work out…as is, my team had other issues though….Here was the write-up I did on that team and how just a few decisions could make/break a team – http://razzball.com/looking-back-at-an-expert-league-2008-draft/

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:44:00 +0000

Bruce for Beckett?

By: Simply Fred

Simply Fred — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:38:24 +0000

@Rudy Gamble: Rudy, "Agreed" from you is gold. Your trade last year cries for a real measure of the impact. Probably, impossible. But, I am very curious what your standing would have been had you kept Johan. Any way to measure it???