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This is more of a general fantasy baseball strategy post (and aimed for Roto more than H2H).  This is sort of a continuation of this morning’s roundup.  Well… At least the thought process for why I’m writing it is in continuation.  Do you start or sit pitchers?  There isn’t an easy, broad answer to start every guy, so I understand the trepidation behind starting certain guys.  You don’t want Ubaldo sitting on your team’s face right after he ate Mexican food.  But you also don’t want to start a guy for all his bad outings and sit him for the great ones.  In a lot of cases, Perry Mason, this comes down to over thinking.  Listen, even your fearless leader sometimes over thinks his starts and misses a good one.  And some guys really are for just matchups.  You’re not starting “Fire Chin” Gaudin every time out. (In some leagues, you’re not starting him ever.)  So rather than me try and come up with some all encompassing rule that doesn’t really apply in every case, I’m going to show you by what I’ve been doing.

In my twelve team league, I’m currently in first and I have a pitching staff of Papelbon, Broxton, Scherzer, Bedard, Wandy, Wolf, Rodney, Hawkins, Grabow, F-Her, Percival and a DL’d Kazmir.  I’ve missed one start on purpose this year.  In my infinite wisdom, I sat Wandy at Colorado when he K’d 11 Rockies, gave up 2 earned and walked none.  A “strategy” move that was to my detriment.  Now you’re thinking, well, you must’ve sat Kazmir all the time.  Nope.  Unfortunately, I didn’t sit him once.  And out of a possible 12 points in WHIP and ERA.  I have a 9 and a 10, respectively in each.  (BTW, To my detriment, I also spot started Zito a few times and that Royals pitcher that we will never speak of again whose name rhymes with Suckevar.  As well as picking up all kinds of junky closers.)

Sober people don’t bet on baseball for one simple reason.  In the short term, from start to start, no one really has any idea what anyone’s going to do.  In the big picture, it’s another thing.  But the big picture only comes to fruition (which is not a Frutazza) if you start your guys so you get their cumulative stats.  Now, of course, if you’re in a ten team league, certain matchups become less startable than 12 team leagues.  Then certain matchups in 15 team leagues, you wouldn’t dream of in 12 team leagues.  So when you ask me in the comments or our fantasy baseball forums about starting a guy, the most important thing is your league depth, friend.  Otherwise, I assume 12 team.  Okay, so who’s starting Lester next time out?  No way!!!

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  1. DrEasy says:
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    Case in point: yesterday I started Zimmermann, Dice-K and Rich Hill, while I sat AJ Burnett. Lesson Learned.

  2. dean says:
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    This week I started Meche, Maholm, Vazquez and Bedard after sitting Meche and Santana last week. They all pitched on Monday. Yikes.

  3. dean says:
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    Meant to say Meche, Maholm, Vazquez and Santana.

  4. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @DrEasy: yeah,zimms k`s are nice but he`s killing my era and whip,peavy had a great one going then had a hickup for 3 runs.im still counting on danks to stop acting like myers

  5. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @DrEasy: Aw, man. You just summed up my post in one sentence.

    @dean: Yup.

  6. Swass says:
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    In a H2H league, I actually hope my pitchers get somewhat shelled early on, so I don’t have to make decisions like these.

    Grey, Helton and Jered Weaver or Rios?

  7. Ricky Bobby says:
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    My 3 rules for starting / not starting pitchers:

    1. Never in COL, Texas, Fenway or the new Yankee Stadium (unless its a BoSox or Yankee pitcher)

    2. Look at home/away splits. Manny Parra and Chris Young are prime examples

    3. Wait for a good start if the pitcher is on a string of bad ones (Lester, Kazmir, etc.)

  8. There’s some whispers, or maybe some roars if I’m not paying too much attention, that runs are up a bit and ERAs are a little high. If that’s the case, does that change how you start/sit guys?

  9. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Swass: Rios

    @Ricky Bobby: Those are pretty good rules, but there’s always exceptions.

    @bpasinko: Nah, cause every team would be dealing with that.

  10. Scott says:
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    Rather stash Duchscherererererer or Myers on the DL?

  11. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    swarzak was great besides varitek boinking 2 out on him,both these 2 guys will be added in bunches,but im not biting

  12. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: His stuff doesn’t look impressive at all.

  13. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: hope zimm gets his bad pitches down to a minn. with the k`s,im assuming he looked good last night,brighter days ahead i hope

  14. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    ha,j.d drew is 0-fer in the 3 hole since replacing big poopi also,need to put a fox in that hole,before i have to drop him to activate escobar

  15. boyle says:
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    Torii Hunter for John Danks?

  16. Teef says:
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    Better DL Stash – Ianetta or Doumit? Why?

  17. bobbo says:
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    This really doesn’t have much of anything to do with fantasy baseball this year, but in my spare time I was looking at just how good Pujols and ARod (although his numbers are tainted) are compared to some all-time greats. Since Pujols is only 29 this season, I decided to only look at stats for all seasons that these guys played where they were 28 or younger (I didn’t include any of Pujols’ 09 stats). I hope it’s okay if I post a link here, copy and pasting this amount of data just wouldn’t work.

    The scary thing with these two guys is the torrid pace that they are off to at such a relatively young age. If they can stay healthy and produce at a level similar to the HOFers did in their 30′s, look out. Unfortunately, I included Griffey’s numbers as well to show just how good he was projecting to be if he had just stayed healthy.

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rOmVZbkPw2WD0Ek1PxJjNkA&output=html

  18. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @boyle: gotta think danks improves but i want hunter there

  19. boyle says:
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    My OF is Markakis, Braun, Damon, Hunter, Vlad, Lind.

    I don’t think he will take Lind for Danks.

    I think Hunter’s value will decrease as he is a career .270-.280 hitter.

  20. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    yeah sad to see griff hurt so much,one could only imagine his numbers if he would have went the steroid way??scary,hats off to a great one near the end

  21. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @boyle: i see the point but danks is stinking besides k`s,again i own him and hope for a rebound but wander if you couldnt target a better sp even if you throw in another medium type player,just a thought and at years end this trade could really work for you,wander what grey would do?

  22. Scott says:
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    @bobbo: If you go even younger, J. Upton is on pace to post an OPS of over 1.000 in his age 21 season. If so, he would be the 4th player to post .800 at age 20 and 1000 at age 21. The others are Ott, Foxx, Ted Williams, all of whom hit over .300 for their careers with 500 HR’s. The list of 15 players with OPS’s over 800 for their age 20 season includes 10 HOF’s, A Rod, Griffey, Vada Pinson (most hits of any player not in the HOF), Tony Conigliaro, and Upton. When do you ever see one of those lists that doesn’t include ANY non-superstars?

  23. bobbo says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Yeah it’s a shame. I truly hope that Pujols stays healthy and that his history stays “steroid clean.” We need someone whose numbers aren’t tainted to get the record back. Another thing that struck me as surprising was just how much damage Ruth did in his 30′s. He only had 238 HR’s through age 28, but averaged 42.5 HR/yr in his 30′s. That’s only 2 HR/yr off of Bonds’ steroid-infused 30′s.

  24. If they don’t change Yankee Stadium Arod could hit too many for Pujols to come close to sniffing.

  25. bobbo says:
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    @Scott: So early into the year I don’t think it’s fair to project J. Upton at 1.000 OPS for the season. He’s been torrid of late, yes. And he’s an uber-prospect for sure. However, I’m not about to say that Greinke is going to get 30 wins and a sub 1.00 ERA or A. Gonzolez & Ibanez get to 60 HR’s. But yeah, if he stays as hot as he’s been, that will be an impressive stat for Upton!

  26. tiamat says:
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    Trade advice? Would you move Hanley ($16 in 2010) for Ludwick ($10 in 2010, $15, $20 after that) and King Felix? (can’t be kept.)

    16-team mixed. Trying to win this year. Would have to get another SS somewhere. Felix replace M Parra or P Maholm.

    I am thinking no.

  27. Scott says:
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    @tiamat: I wouldn’t.

  28. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @bobbo: Cool, no problem about the link. Interesting stuff.

    @tiamat: Nah, wouldn’t do it.

  29. bobbo says:
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    @bobbo: Also important to note that although Pujols didn’t get a chance to strut his stuff in the majors as a 20 yr old, he immediately posted a 1.013 @ age 21 in a full season of 162 games.

  30. Scott says:
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    @bobbo: True, and of the 800 OPS guys, only 3 hit below 300 – Upton way below at 250.

  31. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    the world would be a better place (for me) IF i had a magic button on my computer that would force the real-world manager to get my SP out of the game when I think that he’s had enough .

    i hate biting the bullet and watching my whip and era inflate , just because some manager wants to squeeze another out or inning from a pitcher , when it’s obvious to everyone but him that “it just ain’t happening” .

    and , yes , it’s me , soberly kayin’ , that it sucks even more when there’s money on the line .

  32. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: That reminds me of something. I’m surprised no one’s come up with a game where you can do real-time managing and do exactly what you say. I.e. Pull a pitcher in the 7th even if he stays in. Or switch a hitter if he gets hurt after the first AB, etc. Or maybe this is out there and I don’t know about it.

  33. Thunder Dan says:
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    I’m in last place in my 16-team mixed 5×5 roto league with CI, MI, four OF and two UTIL spots. As you could probably surmise, my team has been a bunch of underachievers when they aren’t lounging around on the DL.

    My current UTIL guys are Garrett Anderson and Brandon Moss. Neither of them play every day, so I’m 13 games under pace for my UTIL slots.

    I’m looking to add another bat at the expense of a pitcher, like Eric Stults or Kawakami (my worst starters) or maybe Kiko Calero (holds aren’t a category; I’m just using him for ratio/K help). I’d prefer somebody who hits left-handed pitching, so I can platoon one of my current guys.

    All the interesting prospects are owned. Juan Rivera, Daniel Murphy and Rod Barajas seem to be the three best bets on the wire. I’m leaning toward Rivera, but I’m not sure who to drop, either. Thoughts?

  34. Baby Batter says:
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    @Grey: Would you do any of the following OFs for Cain? I’m in need of an arm and am having trouble trying to figure out who to start in my crowded OF….C. Lee, J Up, Cruz or Kemp. Thanks Grey.

  35. Baby Batter says:
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    Please replace the word “do” for “trade” above. Thx

  36. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: I’ve asked you about whether or not to start Slowey his last few starts and he’s pitched great. I think you have one less question to answer every five days now. I’ll probably still be pestering about Ubaldo though as he’s the weakest and only question start I have in my 10 team league. Good insight post though to how ze grandmastah thinks.

  37. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:
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    @bobbo: Griff was a class act, all around. Went to Cincy even though he could have gotten a lot more money elsewhere. He was well ahead of Aaron’s pace for years. It would have made so much difference if it was he and not Barroid who broke Hank’s record. Puhol’s numbers are scary. If you project his worst year over the course of a career, he would still be a first ballot HOF. The article in S.I. several months ago was excellent – he appears to be a great guy, and his wife states that she would kill him if she caught him on the juice. Yet most presume that this is so. Thanks for the link
    @Scott: Tony C. had tons of talent; his career tragically altered after he was beamed, and his eyesight went. Didn’t know that about Vada Pinson. As for the Babe; the best way of measuring his towering presence is to measure his feats against the players of his era. In 1920, I believe he hit 59 homers, which was more then almost all of the team totals in baseball that year. He spent most of his early career as a pitcher, and would undoubtably made it into the Hall as a pitcher alone. He had a World Series scoreless inning record that wasn’t broken until Whitey did it in the 60′s. Of course, we will now get some bozo who believes that the modern day athelete, due to his rigorous exercise and nutritional routines, is in another class then the pre-steroidal class. None of these guys ever saw Mickey Mantle, whose major extracurricular activity was boozing and womanizing, hit a ball well over 600 feet, or go from home to first barely over 2 seconds.

  38. Grey

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    @Thunder Dan: I’d grab Rivera and love Stults.

    @Baby Batter: I wouldn’t trade any of them for Cain. Need to aim a little higher.

    @timSTi: Hehe… No problem.

  39. wubbawubba says:
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    Is Lackey a good trade target right now or is the elbow too scary?

  40. Scott says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: My 2 favorite Ruth stats:

    1. After not pitching for 9 years, he through a complete game victory while giving up only 3 runs at age 35.

    2. The year after he led the league in complete games and 2 years after leading the league in shutouts and ERA, he began a streak where he led the league in home runs 14 of the next 16 years.

    My two favorite Ted Williams stats:

    1. He went to fight in WW2 for 4 years the year after winning the triple crown at age 23.

    2. Beginning with his rookie year at age 20, Williams didn’t have a season where his OPS was below 1.000 until he was 40.

  41. Scott says:
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    @Scott: threw not through

  42. Zebo says:
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    I guess Howell is not the closer in tampa.

  43. mgeoffriau

    mgeoffriau says:
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    @Zebo: He is having a nice game though…2 perfect innings with 3 K’s. Too bad I got him the day he got hit around instead of his usual dominant self.

  44. shydog says:
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    vada was one of my favorites as a kid. him and frank robinson. 60′s reds!

  45. Eric H. says:
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    Would you trade Josh Beckett and Jered Weaver to get Jake Peavy? I may mentioned this yesterday. Beckett was lights-out today and appears to have returned to his usual ways, while Weaver is flat-out dominant at home at Los Angeles Angels Field of Anaheim Park.

  46. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @wubbawubba: Sure, depends on who you’re sending for him though. BTW, nice username… Good night and God bless.

    @Eric H.: I wouldn’t do that unless I had so much spare pitching that I wanted to consolidate them.

  47. Maximus says:
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    Would you trade Carpenter for Hart and Porcello? It is a keeper league and the extra categories are K/9, K/BB, OBP, SLG.

  48. Eric H. says:
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    @Grey: I’d be left with Peavy, Vazquez, Harden, Slowey, Liriano and Lowe. So yeah, I wouldn’t say I have THAT MUCH depth. I’m starting to see what you’re saying. If Harden wasn’t such a wildcard, I might be tempted to do it, but…

  49. Ricky Bobby says:
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    DL spot time: Edwin Encarnacion or Alex Gordon. Who has the better 2nd half?

  50. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:
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    @Scott: Ted was not the only ballplayer who volunteered for service in WW 2. I believe that over 500 served, including Stan Musial, Hank Greenberg, Yogi Berra, Bobby Feller, and many more. Give those 4 years back to Ted and imagine how many home runs he would have hit. Willie Mays also lost two years in Korea.

    Fav Williams story – Ted has an average of .401 going into the last weekend of the season. His manager offered to let him rest for the remaining double header. He refused to do so, stating that if he was going to break .400, he would do it honorably. Forget exactly what he did, but he went something like 6-8 in the two games and wound up hitting .406.

    Fav Ruth story – in 2001, I saw a Yankees/Bosox game at Fenway Park. Mike Mussina lost a perfect game with two outs and two strikes on the batter in the bottom of the 9th. I found out that there had never been a perfect game at Fenway. However, on one occasion, Babe walked the first batter of the game. He argued with the ump, and was thrown out. The replacement pitcher picked off the runner at 1st, and then retired the next 26 batters consecutively. By a techicality, this was not listed as a perfect game.

    None of this has anything to do with fantasy. The only thing that has to do with today’s column is that I intended to bench Beckett today, forgot to do so, and wound up serendipitiously with a win and a nice pitching performance. Sometimes, we overthink these issues of who to start and who to bench.

  51. @Grey: grey you’d grab rivera and SLUTS or STULTS? or BOTH?

    Had to read that one twice HA!

    Any word on Manny Delcarmen getting dealt anymore? He was just dropped in my league… worth a snag?

  52. Ricky Bobby says:
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    Name game. Who do you prefer at CI: Adam LaRoche or Hank Blalock?

  53. wubbawubba says:
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    I just got offered santana(!) and loney for adrian G, matt cain and hermida.

    adrian is the only keeper at $16 next year.

    i do this. right?

  54. Tom says:
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    Grey, I’ve read about how I’m NOT supposed to fall for the two-fer and deal a great player for two good players. But I would like to pull it off successfully the other way around. I have a lot of OF and SP depth for a 12 team league.

    If I can get, say Howard, for Cruz and Beckett, do I do it? Or for Cruz and F-Her?

  55. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Maximus: Sure, if you need an outfielder.

    @Eric H.: Yeah, not worth it.

    @Ricky Bobby: EE

    @Tony Y: Haven’t heard anything on Delcarmen, but I don’t think it happens.

    @wubbawubba: Sure, if you need pitching and can lose A-Gonz.

    @Tom: I’d trade either for Howard.

  56. Tom says:
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    Hey Grey, I got two chicks and I’m your wingman. One’s name is Cruz. The other is Upton. Which one are you keeping for yourself?

  57. Grey

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    @Tom: Upton

  58. cnote says:
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    Thoughts on this trade?
    I dealt away Jermaine Dye, Mark Reynolds, Jered Weaver, and Edwin Jackson to acquire Francisco Liriano, James Shields, and Alexei Ramirez.
    12 Team H2H, standard 5X5

  59. daniel p says:
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    i was offered jimmy rollins for my grady sizemore. what do you think? even if grady heads to the dl, i feel like i can get by without him and hope for a nice bounceback. alexei is my current shortstop.

  60. James says:
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    Wow, just wow. Kemp is hitting 8th??? Doesn’t he know that Kemp has hit better at the top of the order rather than the bottom?

  61. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @cnote: I don’t like it for you, sorry.

    @daniel p: If you have Alexei, why not trade Grady for a different necessary piece?

    @James: In. Sane.

  62. Anyone have eyes on the DET vs BAL game? I am interested in how Hernandez looks (and why the f Yahoo! has yet to add him).

    He’s had a nasty 12.5 K/9 this year in AAA. Seems like he might be a decent grab if he sticks for a few starts.

  63. Deal Tulo for Mark “donkeycorn” Reynolds?

    I have alexie at SS and wright at 3B, but am short on power.

    12 teamer H2H

    Positions: c,1,2, 3, SS, OF, OF, OF, and 3 utl slots… alot of flexibility… position almost doesn’t even matter half the time in our league, its pretty much would you rather have reynolds or tulo from here on out….???

  64. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @bobbo: Really interesting stuff, thanks for that.

    To me, it’s notable how few homers Barry Bonds had at the same age — just 222, or last on that list. Just shows what a steady diet of roidburgers can do for a growing lad.

    @Tom: Here’s the easy two-fer recipe:

    Target a team with a player you want, preferably a top tier offensive guy (like Howard), preferably one who’s struggling a bit.

    Package a lesser player at the same position (since assumedly you’re upgrading) then tack on an extra player the other team might need (closers are great here). So, say, Carlos Pena and Heath Bell for Ryan Howard.

    Usually what I do is simply go to my league standings and look for whichever team is near the bottom in saves, then look at their roster and figure out who I want. Usually it doesn’t take long to find a good fit. Earlier this season I traded Vernon Wells and Kevin Gregg for Matt Holliday. I have been happy so far with the results.

  65. Grey

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    @Tony Y: Reynolds is a mini-donkey, not a donkeycorn and I would get him for Tulo.

  66. Eric H. says:
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    Reason No. 4,326,741 to hate the joke Cubs: Jake Fox can’t get into the lineup because there is just NO WAY you could every justify taking Milton Bradley’s and Reed Freakin’ Johnson’s bats out of the lineup. Eff you, Cubbies.

  67. James says:
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    On the subject above, if you are questioning whether to start a guy on your team, he probably shouldn’t be on your team. If he should be on your team – start him if you need him!

    If you are confused, check his career numbers vs. the particular hitters he is facing – they trump any other information. Notice I said particular hitters and not the team he is facing — an older pitcher might have good numbers vs. a team from years ago (rosters change!). For example, Randy Johnson might have bad numbers vs. a team and not one player is still on that active roster. Remember, a pitcher facing a team for the first time is always advantage pitcher.

    If you want to go further, certain umpires have certain tendencies that will help or hinder certain pitchers. For example, an umpire that calls many strikes will help out someone with questionable control. In addition, I would check out weather at the stadium.

    Conclusion: You can go as far as you want, but common sense works best. Start everyone, keep fly ball pitchers on the bench in small parks, bench pitchers that struggle vs. certain teams, and home/road splits.

  68. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: Drop George of the Roses for EE?

    And you like him better than Blalock, how about Beltre?

  69. @Grey: haha mini donkey, got it, scribble scrabble scratch scratch, wrote that down…

    I’m trying, text the guy who has reynolds and he said he’s thinking about it… he just advertised he needs a SS and he also wanted him in the draft… so i’m targetting the right guy to deal with… plussss he jsut got reynolds off waivers because some dufus dropped him right before his monster game… so i think i’ve got this pegged right just gotta get an accept, a good night from tulo here soon and an 0-4 w/ 3 k’s from reynolds might do the trick… the guy already owns crash davis, his K’s and reynolds are KILLING HIM!

  70. @Tony Y: Yeah, I have the box score up, but its tough to tell if he’s looking effective, or just getting lucky. I am particularly interested in how his slider looks.

    @Grey: But, but, but imagine if he was a donkeycorn! That would make him a 5 category stud, and there ain’t nothing mini about that!

  71. Jim says:
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    Someone in my 10 team league just offered to give me Evan Longoria in exchange for Raul Ibanez. My third baseman currently is Chris Davis. Should I accept the trade?

  72. Doc says:
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    So Reimold with another donk. I could pick him up in one league, but don’t have much room. Would you drop Beltre, Burriss, Stewart or Happ?

  73. Doc says:
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    @Jim: I would

  74. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Jim: Yes, yes, yes and yes.

    Did I mention yes?

  75. Kemp is batting .300, he’s 1-1 with an SB tonight, went 2-2 in his first two AB’s last night, and the dodgers have furcal batting .243 in the two hole?

    Someone please tell me why kemp doesnt get moved up? Does torre really hate him that much? What else can the dude do!?

  76. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: I’d lose Stewart if you’re fine at 2nd and 3rd.

  77. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Doc: Burriss, unless you really need the SAGNOF.

    10 team league, I wouldn’t add him.

  78. @Jim: hell ya dude, evan plays at a much shallower position, do we relaly think ibanez is gonna finish the year with 50 HR’s? He might have a career year, but he’s gonna cool at some point…

    Josh hamilton last year? be glad you got what you got out of him, take evan and run…

  79. Doc says:
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    @Grey: @BigFatHippo: Thanks. I think I’ll drop Stewart. With his average I should be able to grab him again. I do need a little of Burriss’ SAGNOF!

  80. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Jim: You get Longoria and give Ibanez?

    Yes, you do that.

  81. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    With my soon-to-be-vacant Grabow spot, do I pick up Hanson or Reimold?

    As everyone here is well aware by now, I have lots of OF already. But three donx is three donx.

  82. Dumbmutt says:
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    I didn’t take Big Z off the DL yesterday. I wasn’t sure who to drop and forgot the time of the game. That works out so nice now.

    And Kemp 8th makes me cry.

  83. James says:
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    @Grey: I thought I read someone saying you had some connections with the Braves. If so, any information on when Hanson will be up?

  84. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @James: You’re thinking of Terry Pendleton. Not sure when he’ll be up, but should be real soon.

  85. James says:
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    @Grey: HA – I figured, but Glavine doing OK in the minors is making me worried. However, Kawakami hasn’t been doing well. Therefore, maybe he takes his spot. The bottom line is Hanson deserves a spot with the numbers he is putting up.

  86. mgeoffriau

    mgeoffriau says:
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    @Grey: “@James: You’re thinking of Terry Pendleton. ”

    Best line of the day.

  87. mgeoffriau

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    Hmmm…..while reading above about Kemp batting 8th….would a Manny for Kemp offer be fair? Manny’s rotting on my bench and with Quentin scuffling along I could use another active OF. Plus, it’s a keeper and if Kemp puts up a good year he could sneak into my 3 hitter keepers.

    Fair, not enough, or too much?

  88. Colin says:
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    Wow. Matt Kemp hitting 8th. Just when I thought Joe Torre couldn’t get any dumber.

  89. Adam says:
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    Sheff, Melky or Reimold?

  90. timSTi says:
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    @Grey: My ARod for his Verlander & Lowell? My pitching staff is Bills, Gollardo, Wolf, Slowey, Volstad, Jimenez. Id drop Jimenez if I got J-Ver. I’m top 3 in all offensive categories except Avg. Pitching I’m 2nd in wins but only middle of the field in K’s ERA & WHIP.

    It’s a 10 team 5×5 with 3 Keepers.

  91. knighttown says:
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    I’ve actually got a different viewpoint on today’s topic. I think Team Offense is enough of a constant that it IS important to “sit” SP’s in bad match-ups, especially in leagues with innings maximums. Tampa Bay has scored 55% more runs than Seattle. Let’s take Ted Lilly, a pretty established guy with a steady ERA of around 4.00. If you use the 55% as a multiplier, Lilly should average an ERA 2.20 vs. Seattle and 6.20 vs. Tampa assuming a large enough sample size. Put another way, you could probably spot start 25 guys with 4&1/2 ERA’s versus Seattle and come out with a ERA around 3. Conversely, if you’re guy is one of those non-elites (say 3.5 ERA) and TB is on the docket, you can expect an average ERA of over 5.

    Here’s what I’ve done:

    1. Grab 7 SP’s you really like. This gives you enough depth to play only the best match-ups. Mine are Beckett, Cain, Vazquez, Oswalt, Jackson, Scherzer and Weaver.

    2. Use Grey’s projected year-long ERA (unless there is a reason not to) and multiply by a teams offensive “factor”.

    3. If the number comes out sub-4 I’ll usually pull the trigger.

    Of course, I also play the Sonofabench game with the end of OF depth (Choo, Beltre, J. Upton, Bruce). Sure, every now and then Bruce hits 2 donks against Peavy but 9 times out of 10 he’ll go 0-4.

    2. Play the odds. I

  92. knighttown says:
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    Dump Beltre for this Reimold cat?

  93. Prince says:
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    Hart is puttin’ on the hurt and I have no bench. No one in my 10-team league trades, and no one will likely pick him up if he’s not playing well. So… drop him for now, for a hot hand or one of: Reimold, Cody Ross, Cameron, Sandoval, J. Guillen, Thome, Scutaro?

  94. Adam says:
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    Fox with the pinch hit single, stays in the game to play 3B…hopefully a sign of things to come

  95. RogerDorn says:
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    if you can get mauer for vmart in a straight trade, do you do it?

    in a one year league?

    in a keeper league?

  96. Adam says:
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    @RogerDorn: Yes, yes, and yes.

  97. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: AAAUUUGGGHHHHHH

    Been on the phone for 3 days trying to get my ATT laptop connect card to work, if Bill Curtis flew down here to the bootheel from the Himalayas he’d find my neighbor, the Abominable Snowman………….we like to call him Bumbles.

    But he couldn’t find the internet for more than two minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry, I like to vent when I’m venting, toss me another Coors Light and I’ll vent some more.

    So I finally got ahold of a tech from NYC after talking for months to about 12 of em and he says, now scroll to any website you visit, went to baseballblahblahespn, he says cool you must be a Cardinal fan. Yup, he’s a Yank fan and guess what, he fixed it. Been dealing with it for 2 months and it took a baseball fan to fix it, long live baseball, long live the Yankees, thank you New York City, USA.

    and Fuck you Bill Curtis…….

    I’m BigFatHippo, and I just found the internet, in the bootheel no less.

    Had to get that off my chest, carry on………………..

  98. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BigFatHippo: grab a cold one young fella and drink up,,im hittin the olewoodford and stoogie tonight,,corey hart sucks,reminds me of gorman thomas without the power,but can run a bit(when on base)

  99. martin says:
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    why isnt broxton closing????

    In other news now the dodgers are gonna lose the game!

  100. timSTi says:
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    @martin: Fox is up with the bases loaded and 2 outs. dun dun dun dahhh

  101. timSTi says:
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    @timSTi: Swing and a miss by the hottest TRIPLE A hitter ;)

  102. BigFatHippo says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Doin it right now.

    Which stoogie you hittin, Larry, Moe or Curly? I just got off the phone with them…………

  103. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @martin: i dont know,he pitched 1 inning on the 27th and none since the 23rd,,probably that damn swine cal. flu i caught last week out there,its a killer,1st drink tonight since sat. night

  104. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BigFatHippo: watching labron on our new hd,hell we had like 6 tv`s,couldnt justify buying a new one till this morning when our main one went out,,damn he just dripped sweat on me

  105. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    broxton need 38 pitches last night,didnt want to use him

  106. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    B.J is about to become ,THE other upton if he doesnt do something soon

  107. Adam says:
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    Anybody got some good fantasy team names to cheer me up from the Cubs debacle? I just switched from The Greinkings to Kiss the Prince; former names this season include Qualls to the Walls and Scott Downs Syndrome

  108. Paulie Allnuts

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    @AL KOHOLIC: Hey AL; congrats, you are now officially tied with Honker for 2nd place. It hasn’t been that long since you left my seedy neighborhood in the second division; now that you are a member of the patrician class, hopefully you won’t thumb your nose at us hoi polloi. Now you have the more difficult task of catching JP, which could take you the rest of the season. ERA and WHIP, as well as wins, are probably beyond you or anyone, as he has a back to back combo of Greinke and the Freak. But his hitting doesn’t seem invincible.

    As for myself, after choosing numerous fluffer prospects that failed, I finally think that I have found one in Reimold, whom I own in every league except the one I allowed my wife to have him in. My lineup continues to be SAGNOF City, but I have only made it to 3rd place in SB. I am a steady 8th instead of a steady 9th. If the season lasted a 1000 games, I might have a chance.

  109. Paulie Allnuts

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    @Adam: Someone in the Latin 9 used a great one for awhile: ItBurnettswhenIPeavy. Next year I might use Murderers Roto. Qualls to the Wall is pretty good, but Scott Down Syndrome comes from our Glossary. Please don’t pick anything with ‘roid in it; that has become already passe. A takeoff on Grey’s column yesterday – MelkyCocoCrisp. Can’t get to sleep, so I will have time to think about other good names. My fav from last year’s league was “You’re Killing Me Smalls.”

  110. James says:
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    Anyone watching the D-Backs game? Upton is hitting the ball with authority! Plus, he just got an SB. The dude has wheels!

  111. Grey

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    @timSTi: Not crazy about it.

    @BigFatHippo: Good to have you back.

    @James: I’m watching it and I just saw Haren fall to the ground and I nearly did the same thing.

  112. Tom says:
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    @Adam: I’ve seen people use “Affeldt up Your Sister,” which I like.

  113. mgeoffriau

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    I know this is a funny question in the context of today’s post, but I have to do it.

    Start Baker against the Rays tomorrow? The rest of my staff I have confidence in….Peavy, Vazquez, Scherzer, Slowey, and Zambrano I’ll run out there every time, and the occasional beating is not that big of a deal.

    But Baker just spooks me…I feel like he’s just a big inning waiting to happen. Then again, I sat him against MIL and missed a nice start there.

    Grrr….I’ve just about talked myself into starting him. If I wasn’t already well ahead of my innings pace I just do it….ah hell, Zambrano’s missing his next start anyway, I might as well tempt fate.

  114. Matt Sorrento says:
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    JA Happ would qualify as a matchup guy, I figure. Start him against the suprising Nats offense tomorrow?

  115. Prince says:
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    @Grey: @Prince: Grey, you may have missed my question. If you didn’t miss it but rather chose to ignore it, feel free to continue — I’ll survive. Thanks..

  116. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: I’m back, and falling fast.

    Would you do this?

    Dunn/Theriot for Carp/Michael Young.

    I’m cool in power, falling in avg, K’s, era and whip. This would solidify my staff with Halladay, Lowe, Carp, Happ and Hanson when he comes up, I’m sitting Liriano for a while.

  117. mgeoffriau

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    @Grey: You’re killing me, smalls! I had just talked myself into it.

  118. Just a friendly reminder: Dexter Fowler goes against Chris Young tomorrow.

    SAGNOF!

  119. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: i had to drop reimold for pitching,oh, then i dropped pitching for BIG JAKE,classic flick by the way but lou is off his meds,wont steal a base wont play jake hell he wouldnt bring up hanson if he had him,wont bunt a guy over etc.,and by the way furcal has got to be hurting more than they say,,he wont run at all,close to droppable if something doesnt give after the break,

  120. Kemp/Votto/BJ Upton/Rios/Bruce/Adam Jones/Riemold/Cuddyer….only six spots, who do I sit?? I am leading every offensive cat except tied in SB…I would like to get Riemold in there since he is hot…if I get advice from you guys then I don’t have to blame myself for a sonovabench!!

  121. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @danimal35: no offense meant at all,but you need a tougher league,more teams,its not even fun to have all stars on the waiver wire,but as of now i go with jones,votto(if healthy and kemp with matchups always considered,of course thats not the power hitters so if your behind in power,bruce ,reimold andvotto

  122. Grey

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    @danimal35: But I do agree it’s more of a matchups thing from day to day.

  123. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    stevo oh stevo,where art thou,,get the swine flu to? hope not but havent heard from you lately.i see your on hippo`s ass in the rcl,gotta watch him he will make a blockbuster on you,he isnt scared to trade,plus he knows some dude named grey that isnt to shabby

  124. Grey

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    @AL KOHOLIC: Hey, how was Cali? Where did you go?

  125. cubbies299 says:
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    Luke Scott 2 hrs tonight. Pick him up for Kubel or Flores?

  126. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    it was great,long beach for a day then palm(100+)springs,i love it,was more of a family reunion so didnt do much else but stayed in a golf community,golf pool etc.,didnt get sick till morning we left so it didnt affect the trip,next time in wich park do i go to,dodgers,angels,san fran or oak?got family near all and ive already said im going next time,muscle beach is nuts,nice to see but dont want to live on it

  127. cubbies299 says:
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    @Grey: even if he’s my fillin for Ianetta?

  128. Grey

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    @AL KOHOLIC: Nice, sounds like good times. Giants, Dodgers and Petco are the best in Cali, in that order.

    @cubbies299: Drop Kubel.

  129. cubbies299 says:
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    @Grey: sorry again, but if Holland were added to that list, would it change anything?

  130. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: thanks got family fans of all,its great,when we come out we just act like we love the best of the group,somebody loves us and the others we give shizz to all week,3 bottles of patron later,we`re all happy,but i will say,if we didnt have 3 families of grand children,id move right now,i love it.many kahoots to you all that do live there,except the trafic,5 hours to get from long beach to palm springs,and the driver wouldnt let me drink,kinda like davis/reynolds ,take the good with the bad

  131. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: @Grey: Been on a work thing for a couple of days and out of coverage.

    So, what are we doing with Gamel? I’m holding in my keeper, but do I need to in my H2H where I have Lowell as my Aramis insurance or in the RCL where I drafted Atkins as my 3B?

  132. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Steve: made you an offer,if no then counter but i see it helping us both with the innings limit

  133. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @cubbies299: Drop Kubel.

    @AL KOHOLIC: Ha, yeah, traffic’s killer. All the time.

    @Steve: Hey, good to hear from you. Yeah, lose Gamel in the H2H.

  134. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: grey peavy for kemp?needs i know but fair?

  135. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: I think you’re leaving something out ;-)

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