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Usually on Friday I go over one player who can be looked at keeping in keeper leagues, but the other day in the comments I was asked for some general fantasy baseball keeper league strategy.  A request and dedication, if you will.  For illustration purposes, let’s look at last year’s Chase Utley keeper post.  Go ahead, read it.  This’ll be here when you return.  Welcome back!  Okay, in that post I told you to keep Marmol and Utley.  At the time, Utley was about to have hip surgery and Marmol wasn’t the closer.  In my oversized brain, I figured, hip surgery be damned, Utley would still be a top hitter at a weak position. Which brings me to my first fantasy baseball keeper point:

1. Top hitters at weak positions rule in keepers.

Utley, Mauer, Hanley, et al. are top keepers.  I’m not a fan of drafting Mauer very early on in redrafts.  But in a keeper league, I’m assuming you have him for a lot cheaper than he’ll go in redrafts, especially when considering he went late in 2009 drafts because of back issues.

2. Value is a trump card.

In the above Utley/Marmol example, I knew Marmol would be very cheap on your team because he was nothing but a middle man in 2008.  Though he had the stuff to be the closer in 2009 and Kevin Gregg blocking him — ha!  Are you keeping Marmol over Miguel Cabrera?  Not unless Nurse Ratched just gave you a lobotomy.  Would I have told you last year to keep a 20th round Marmol over, say, a 8th round Vernon Wells?  Yes, I would’ve.  Another example of value as trump card, Derrek Lee in the 6th round or Kendry Morales in the 20th round?  Kendry Morales wins.

3. Try to figure out who your leaguemates are keeping.

Or the inverse of that, who will be available on draft day.  This is sometimes easier said than done, but you should be able to gauge more or less the guys that will be kept.  For instance, if there’s going to be no top 3rd basemen in the draft, it makes Kevin Youkilis in the 3rd round a lot more appealing.

4. When in doubt, keep a hitter.

I’m not opposed to keeping a pitcher or two, but if I could have my druthers — those are MY druthers! — I’d keep hitters.  Same that holds true for redraft leagues holds true for keepers.  Pitchers are unpredictable from year to year.

5. Take a gamble on upside.

Some players have top 50 upside.  Think The Dread Pirate.  Am I gambling on upside over a proven commodity?  No, I’m not.  But if you keep, say, 5 keepers, take 4 proven guys and gamble on one guy to have some upside.

6. Don’t be cute; go for the win this year vs. the future win.

This point couches point number five.  Don’t overload on future talent.  I’m sure Strasburg will be dynamite.  He may even be dy-no-mite.  That doesn’t mean you’re playing 2011 before 2010 even starts, future boy.

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  1. Steve says:
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    I don’t mean to disrespect the new post (It’s all good stuff of course and I so want to kick some Hippo and Al K ass in our keeper next year), but I love reading those old posts.

    We were all so young and innocent then. I can’t believe I used “What up fellaz?” and “Recognise!” in the same post.

    And you know what? It’s only re-reading it now, that I got that whole ‘Hamilton’ thing. Duh.

    BTW, the two Hamiltons had similar years – except our Hamilton has that kind of year, every year.

  2. big o says:
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    utley’s recovery from major hip-surgery certainly surprised me ,
    in that he was able to , so quickly , return to top echelon status .

    duchscherer’s recovery hasn’t progressed as smoothly .

    any guesses on how duchs might perform in 2010 ?

    or hamilton , with his back ??

  3. Tony says:
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    Another tip: figure out who your leaguemates are “thinking” of keeping and mess with their heads. Me and another guy got a 3rd owner to keep Pedroia over Beltran going into this past years draft. In Hindsite it woulda been better for him to keep Beltran since he was MIA all year, but at first that was a slick move. He thought he was keeping an MVP 2B who was gonna repeat or do better than his 2008 season when in reality any smart “fantasy baseballer” knew what was coming…. in the end like i said it kinda backfired, but we were in his ear whispering “man you should throw beltran back in and keep Pedroia”

    HAHAHHAHAHAH, evil

  4. Big Mike says:
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    “When in doubt, keep a hitter” has always been my mantra … but I can only keep 10 and have some killer pitchers. Anyone want to take a crack at who are my stone cold locks for 10?

    Possibles: Fielder, Kinsler, Utley, Rollins, Sizemore, Crawford, J.Bay, Ethier, Johan, Halladay, M.Cain, Lester, Josh.Johnson, Vazquez, J.Soria

  5. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: I woke up early to watch the parade, so maybe I’m still groggy, but I don’t follow your post. What Hamilton thing? The two Hamiltons had similar years? What two? Sorry, not following.

    @big o: Duchscherer was battling clinical depression. Duchscherer’s performance will be good if he can perform at all. He’ll also be available in just about all mixed leagues. Haven’t heard anything on Hamilton.

    @Tony: Ha!

    @Big Mike: Fielder, Kinsler, Utley, Sizemore, Crawford, Bay, Ethier, Lester, Halladay and Johan. Not in that order. Lester over other pitchers because he’s young and can be even better.

  6. Bob says:
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    @Grey: Another reason I like to draft pitchers really, really late is that it makes them easier to dump. Take a dog like Duchscherer (I had to cut and paste his name because it’s too early in the morning to try to take that m.f.’ing name), it’s a lot easier to dump him if you’ve taken him in the 16th round than the 8th. What do you do with Peavey who you took in the fourth? Or countless other under performing starting pitchers.

    The way I take SP in a standard draft is basically to take your Top 40 ,err, Top 60 list, and start drafting whoever’s left around the 10-12th round. I usually end up with one or two usable starters, and the rest come off the waiver wire. I like to draft whichever stud closer has dropped to that area as well. So I was getting Broxton in a lot of leagues last year.

    Meantime, I’m totally on the idea of drafting position scarcity. I pretty much fill in my middle infield positions before I draft anywhere else. I can actually make a rational argument for drafting Utley #2 after Hanley.

    Anyway, thanks for your takes. Since I’m not a footballer, I read this eagerly every day, waiting for next year to start.

  7. Simply Fred

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    @Steve: @Grey: Yeah, I copy and paste “draft strategy” articles in a word doc so I can easily re-read.

    Grey, I probably missed the rendering–how did the battle between PEDS and BRAN work out last year (per Rudy’s challenge: “Will be interesting to see how each of us perform in expert leagues this year…”?

  8. Grey

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    @Bob: Yeah, your strategy makes sense. If you read the recap of my top 20 starters from 2009, you saw how many starters I had from there — Wolf, Wandy, Wainwright, Cain, etc. — and I didn’t draft top guys.

    @Simply Fred: I don’t think he meant it literally as a challenge. Or maybe he did, but it didn’t work out that way. We drafted every team together and I would cover for managing his team when he wasn’t around and vice versa.

  9. big o says:
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    looks like a toilet paper parade

  10. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: This ticker tape parade brought to you by Charmin.

  11. Tony says:
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    Timmy Lincecum caught with some mary jane….

    little hippie… i knew there was a reason he had long hair….

  12. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: Someone said yesterday, was another one hitter for Lincecum.

  13. big o says:
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    had a guy on my craps game about a month ago .
    he was out here from pasadena , so , naturally,
    i asked him a few questions about the rose bowl parade .

    the gist of this story is that many of the local businesses along the parade route , charge $10 to use their bathrooms .
    since front-row parade watchers are camped-out 24 hours before the start of the parade , this additional income is an economic boom to the local establishments … leaving them “flush” with cash .

    i wonder how new yorkers are dealing with this (t)issue ?

  14. Grey

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    @big o: Craps game, quite literally, huh? You seem like a Don’t Pass Line bettor, am I right?

  15. big o says:
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    been working the game for the past 10 years .
    there’s a time and a place to bet the “don’ts” …. specifically , when new dice are introduced to a game , or when a table is 1st opening up … (dice are sharp)

    before that , typically , i played “power of 3″
    for instance …. $35 five , pays $49 … drop a buck , go to $85 …
    $85 pays $119 … drop $6 , go to $210 (200 for me , 10 $ , on top for dealers)
    3rd five pays me $480 and down … dealers collect $24
    total out of pocket was 35+1+6 = $41
    happens , sometimes .

  16. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: Craps is my favorite game in the casino and I’ve never heard that bet. I usually play the 6 and 8 or buy the 5 and 10. I never bet the Don’t Pass. I figure if I feel like I should play it, I shouldn’t be at that table.

  17. big o says:
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    if you’re going to buy the 4 or 10 ,
    try the “power of 3″ .

    but the 10 for $35 (plus the 1$) … pays $70 …
    press to 100 (5$ juice is already included) , but , drop another $5 ,
    making the buy $105 .
    pays $210 … press to $300 … $15 juice is in .
    3rd ten pays you $900 and down .
    again , if you miss the 3rd ten , you’ve lost $41

  18. big o says:
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    but* = buy

  19. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: $41’s not bad for $900 but how often do three tens come out?… Guess though if you hit it once you’re good for another 20+ rolls.

  20. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    i think the key is ===> take the 900$$ and go to the bar .
    or get some sushi .

  21. Grey

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    @big o: Sure, but I’m saying is how many $41s do I need to go through to get the $900 pay out? Probably quite a few.

  22. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Sorry, man. There’s some mildly amusing (at least it seemed that way at the time!) banter between you, Hippo and me in that old Utley post that should explain my comment.

    Oh – I’d been drinking, too.

  23. Grey

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    @Steve: Ah… I didn’t read the old comments. That is funny.

  24. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    there’s only one shot in 12 to roll a single 10 .

    i.e. 36 possible outcomes
    only 3 ways to roll a 10 … 4-6 , 6-4 , & , 5-5
    and 6 ways to roll a 7 … 1-6 , 6-1 , 2-5 , 5-2 , 3-4 , & , 4-3

    since you don’t lose your buy of the 10 to any roll except the 7 ,
    the odds are 1/12 x 1/12 x 1/12 divided by 1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6 (i think) .
    suffice it to say that we’re looking for statistical anomalies ,
    which is why i recommend you head for the bar ,
    if you’re lucky enough to get the 3rd hit .

  25. Grey

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    @big o: Gotcha… Yeah, I figured it wasn’t that easy, but what I’m wondering is how many times you bet the ten before you give up? Give it ten rolls, so $410. Or do you try it once then move to the pass and 6 and 8? Do you not play the pass at all?

  26. Tony says:
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    @Grey: @big o: more baseball talk, pass the 10, skip the 8, LOL i’m lost… no hold em?

  27. Steve says:
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    @big o: @Grey: You guys lost me back where the dice were sharp.

  28. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: @Steve: Ha! Yeah, Big O’s giving me an education on the die.

  29. big o says:
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    i don’t play the pass line .
    i wait for the point to be established , and place the numbers that i want ,
    but that just a personal preference , partly because i don’t like betting on the 7 , even if it’s a winner , and partly ‘cuz i view a crap check as a pansy bet .

    what i do know ==> if you’re not backing up your pass-line bet with FULL odds , you’re losing money vs a “place” bet .

    we can talk more of this later , Mr. Math , (can i call you mr. math ??) , but ,
    gotta run and go see the grand-kid .

  30. Grey

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    @big o: I do play the pass line and back it up with the pansy bet. Have fun with the grandkid, don’t corrupt them too much.

  31. tourinct says:
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    Interesting timing, I was thinking about keepers today.
    Need to keep 9 from this first place team.

    K. Suzuki, Sandoval, Berkman, Kinsler, Jeter, ARod, Chipper, Figgins, Choo, Ichiro, Abreau, N. Cruz, Crispy, Vlad, C. Pena

    Vazquez, C. Lee, S. Baker, Lilly, E. Jackson, DeLarosa

    Any thoughts?

  32. oldmilwaukeepounders says:
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    I also have a question regarding keepers.
    need to keep 4 of the following:

    Phillips, Dunn, Hawpe, Ethier, Holliday, B.J. Upton, McCutchen, Kershaw, Broxton, Nathan, Peavy, and Gallardo.

    I already have 2 no brainers in Miguel Cabrera and Tulowitzki and I can’t decided what 4 to keep along with them.

    Any input would be appreciated.

  33. big o says:
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    hardy to the twins
    hope the change of scenery does the kid some good

  34. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @tourinct: A-Rod, Kinsler, Cruz, Sandoval, Vazquez, Lee, Abreu, Jeter and Berkman Kinda in that order. I could see losing Berkman for Baker, but doesn’t seem necessary.

    @oldmilwaukeepounders: Upton, Kershaw, Holliday and Phillips… Lots of good guys there though, and I could be persuaded to go a different way.

  35. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: Yeah, saw that. Don’t think it matters. He’ll still be what he is.

  36. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    he’s trying to be what he once was

  37. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Steve: yeah i know you loaded up on some keepers in our league,im kind of in the middle,my main keepers arent cheap but you gotta keep kemp at 20,and gallardo at 13 but i love me some raja for nothing to replace a 46 crawford,the others are undecided but looking forward to your 2nd year with us

  38. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: whats your thoughts on neftali`s keeper status,he will cost me the minnimum of $5

  39. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: I wonder if we’ll get the extra OF next year? I’d also like to change to straight 5×5 scoring but I’m not sure how much appetite there is to change that.

  40. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Steve: i want the extra O.F. and the vote was for it but roob screwed up,i doubt youll get the 5x 5 though,ive never plated head to head baseball though,might have to try it

  41. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: No, no – I mean we should have standard roto scoring. Some of those extra categories we have make it feel a bit tricked up in my (not always) humble opinion.

  42. Simply Fred

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    Does Beckham get auto eligibility at 2B if he starts there at the beginning of the season (as the Sox indicate, with Teahen at 3rd), or does he have to wait to get in 10 games?

  43. Grey

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    @AL KOHOLIC: Depends on your other keepers, but I like him for next year at that price.

    @Simply Fred: Depends on league settings, but in most leagues he’ll need at least ten games started at 2nd before gaining eligibility.

  44. Mark says:
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    Well said Grey. This should just be its own seperate link on your site. I can’t even focus on giving you the most important takeaway from the 6 points you listed because they all are important. You might as well just give this a whole website because the advice is timeless.

  45. big o says:
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    how does this guy fit in ?

    AB HR R RBI SB AVG OBP
    180 2 17 9 2 .183 .245

  46. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    mlb-tv is airing the afl game tonight @ 8:15 pm (edt)
    strasburg not starting …. sore neck
    watching ??

  47. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Mark: Your commendation went slightly overboard so I’m not sure if you’re patronizing me, but thanks, I think.

    @big o: I’m not watching. No idea what those stats are supposed to mean.

  48. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: Pretty sure Mark was speaking from the heart. With the plethora of decisions to be made, your points really help to keep one focused and grounded. Mark nailed it.

    Just added this to the “Strategy” doc that houses PEDS, BRAN, etc.

    As always, many thanks.

  49. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: Saw that KC did not pick up option on Olivo. What does this mean? More negotiations? Some other team goes after him?

  50. GopherDay says:
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    @Simply Fred: I saw that too.

    About the Josh Fields trade to KC, what does this mean for Alex Gordon? Shift to first and let Billy Butler fill DH?

  51. Grey

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    @Simply Fred: Some other team will sign him.

    @GopherDay: Gordon will probably shift to first and Butler to DH, but Gordon and Fields haven’t shown much yet, neither is guaranteed anything other than a long look by KC.

  52. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: Who knows, both may decide to show all the potential they have…

  53. Grey

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    @GopherDay: Not to mention the cost to replace the stash.

  54. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: Posessing a marijuana pipe, 250 dollars. Speeding, 122 dollars. Getting more marijuana, unspecified amount. Being the best pitcher in the MLB, priceless.

  55. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    stats in comment # 45 are
    granderson’s #’s against lefties

  56. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: But 2008 wasn’t as terrible… Besides, if he hits 25 homers vs. righties it doesn’t matter. He’s not a 40/40 guy, he’s a 25/20 guy.

  57. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    in either format , h2h or roto ,
    if you roster granderson , you better have a capable back-up , so you can sit him against lefties .
    cust kayin’
    if not , a viable alternative might be
    to just go blank .

  58. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: I don’t get the deal with KC dropping Olivo. 23 HR from your catcher? Who’s in the wings? He was the 16th C drafted in the 16th round in that mock. Seems like a reasonable pick at a reasonable spot?? (now depending on the team he lands with and playing time)

  59. Sam says:
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    Do you think Alfonso Soriano has a decent chance of bouncing back next year? I could trade Shields for him…

  60. GopherDay says:
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    @Sam: Soriano is a bum. I;m not saying you shouldn’t trade for him, but he is a bum.

  61. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Simply Fred: Olivo’s never drafted in single catcher leagues. He gets hot for like a month a year every two years.

    @Sam: His knees seem too shoddy for the steals like he used to do, but he can hit 30 homers. I’d prefer him over Shields.

  62. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: How do you like Montero around round 12 (looks like that’s where he might go)?

  63. GlennGulliver's Travels says:
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    A lot of us are in auction leagues – how about some auction-specific tips?

  64. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    utley is the man
    but with the additions of beckham and coghlin (?)
    2nd base positional scarcity seems to be dropping by the wayside .

    getting a power-hitting 3rd baseman could be tricky ,
    but heaven help the team slotting elijah dukes as their 3rd out-fielder .

    does this year’s up-coming draft seem more interesting than 2009’s ,
    or am i just jumping the gun ?

  65. Grey

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    @big o: Coghlan’s upside for the year is what Utley can do in a month, 3rd baseman doesn’t seem tricky and I don’t think Dukes will be drafted in a lot of leagues, let alone be anyone’s 3rd outfielder.

  66. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: I just don’t get the depth of your love for Utley. Realize 2B has a huge dropoff after the first two, but:
    Utley 31 HR and 23 SB in 156 G
    Kinsler 31 HR and 31 SB in 144 G
    Utley apparently a clear 1st rounder, maybe Kinsler slips mid-2nd?
    If one trades Kinsler about the time the August heat takes it’s toll, he seems like a better play. (Utley tailed off Post-ASB as well.)

  67. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: BTW: Even though I had been touting Coghlan’s performance end of year, I concur, without steals, he won’t do much for a team.

  68. Grey

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    @Simply Fred: Just because I like Utley doesn’t mean I don’t like anyone else. If I don’t draft at the 3 pick or higher, I’m probably not getting Utley. I had Kinsler in the 2nd round last year, don’t see that changing.

  69. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: Now don’t go getting all surly on me. Just trying to get the nuances figured out. I don’t mean to challenge you.

    It’s just that, IGNORING INJURY, I rate Kinsler’s performance considerably better than Utley’s for 2008, and better for 2009. (Again, same number of HR but 8 more SB in 12 fewer games for Kinsler). Is it the injury issue that has you picking Utley at #3 instead of Kinsler? What am I missing?

  70. GopherDay says:
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    @Simply Fred: Average maybe?

  71. Simply Fred

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    @GopherDay: Difference not enough to make much of an impact on roto standing. Grey advises to pretty much ignore average.

  72. GopherDay says:
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    @Simply Fred: Utley is much more consistant. I may be wrong, but I don’t think Kinsler has gone through an entire season without hitting the DL at least once.

    This isn’t to say I won’t draft Kinsler, I’ll do that…

  73. Simply Fred

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    @GopherDay: Yeah, I pretty much expect that to be Grey’s answer. When I look at Utley’s Post-AS line, it ain’t that consistently hot; at least for a #3 pick:
    .246 AVG; 11 homers (from pre-AS 20); did get 14 SB (a good sign).
    ???

  74. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: You don’t have to respond. If you like the guy, you do. Don’t think you are sitting on any magical piece of info that’s gonna bring me around to Utley at #3.

  75. Grey

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    @Simply Fred: I didn’t respond because I wasn’t home. The same reason I said I didn’t give much weight to the piece you put in the forums is more or less the same reason Utley’s 2nd half doesn’t matter to me. Guys aren’t made on a week, a month, 50 games, or a half season. Utley’s been consistently solid for 5 seasons. His average is far superior, Utley’s full season low for RBIs at 93 is better than Kinsler’s career high of 86 and Kinsler’s only stayed healthy for one season in his career. Could Kinsler’s 2010 be better than Utley’s? Sure, and so can Gordon Beckham’s. But the chances are far greater that Utley will be better. BTW, I feel like you’re quibbling with an Utley to Kinsler comparison. Utley is in the top 5, Kinsler’s in the top 15. Same diff.

  76. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: It’s all good. I said you didn’t have to respond because I didn’t want to burden you with having to explain it to me (again).

    I am not the only schmo who looks at 2nd half numbers and says “Gee Wiz…?”

    You are the man because you have the knowledge and savvy to go beyond that. I ask the questions because I am trying to innnccccchhhhh closer to that level.

    I completely understood your giving not much weight to the “peak performances” posts. I hope I am not putting too much stock in them myself. Just hoping to catch the 2 or 3 that might be good values. (Saw J.Sanchez went in the 19th round, and, of course, my mini 10-game stretch showed his potential much higher. Helped highlight Montero as a prime option if he stays at round 12 level.)

    Peace and love from Eugene.

  77. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: To keep:Heyward or Maybin? Both are only $1.

  78. Mark says:
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    Yeah I did go over the top with my make this another website comment. Sorry next time I’ll just say I tip my cap. That way you know I respect the work without any sarcasm.

  79. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Simply Fred: Cool, no problem.

    @GopherDay: Ooh… That’s tough. I really like both, but I’d have to go with Maybin, even considering the surgery.

    @Mark: No worries, just wasn’t sure. Glad you liked it.

  80. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: When you are slotting Felix, do you consider him one of your SP or in a bench slot?

  81. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: Just so you know that I am listening: a guy like Reynolds comes out high in the top 50 games. However, you have hinted that you think he is likely to dropoff (the Ks might catch up to him). So, I will be opting for someone else at that draft level.

  82. Grey

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    @Simply Fred: Felix would be a great late round selection, but I expect the hype to pick him up and make him less affordable.

    re: Reynolds, I was hoping for a .250 average last year, I could easily see a .240 average. He could hit a .230. That’s not someone who should be in the top 25. I’m almost guaranteed not to own him next year.

  83. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: I am thankful for you input on Reynolds so that I am sure to avoid him.

    RE: Felix. Yeah, he easily may not fall far enough. On the roster slotting issue, I read where you counseled to fill the 3 bench slots with MR rather than hitters. Will Felix be a starter next year, and, thus, taking up a starting pitching slot? Or, a bench/reliever slot?

  84. Grey

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    @Simply Fred: I would think in leagues where it would matter, Felix will have RP next to his name since he pitched in relief, meaning he could be slotted in as a reliever. He may not even start the year with the Rangers, going the David Price in 2009 route.

  85. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: I guess I should at least spell is name right: Feliz. My bad. Thank you!

  86. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Don’t ever mention Shields’ name in my hearing again.

    How do you feel about him next year, BTW?

  87. Grey

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    @Steve: Eh, I’m kinda indifferent. I don’t expect a big bounce back, maybe a 3.75 ERA as best case scenario. I decent #3 starter who you have to bench in tough matchups.

  88. Steve says:
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    @Grey: I see your eh and raise you a big whoop.

    Sounds like production you can get from the wire, no?

  89. Grey

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    @Steve: Probably, but he’s a little more steady than that.

  90. Simply Fred

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    @Steve: Aloha, Steve. You get a break. Gone to Maui for ten days with the grandkids!

  91. Steve says:
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    @Simply Fred: Hawaii? Pah!

    Packing up to move house beats that for fun hands down.

    Have a great time, along with several pina coladas in Grey’s honour.

  92. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: whats your thoughts on lilly in 2010?seems like he had his best era and whip by quite a bit last year,he put up #1 or 2 numbers but shouldnt he be targeted as more of a #3

  93. Grey

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    @AL KOHOLIC: I’m a fan of Lilly for a #3 spot, seems like he’s really turned a corner and has become reliable to keep his ERA in the mid-3’s and a great K to walk ratio.

  94. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: thanks,ive been busy in 3 football leagues(9-0)in the RCL,with a lot of luck i might add,but ive still been reading your post and keeping up,as i said before,my baseball teams have missed 1st place because of sp the last couple of years and imwilling to listen this year,

  95. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Nice, glad you’re doing well in football. I see you’re top 2 overall for all the RCL, impressive.

  96. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: football is kind of like the 1st 20 games in baseball,you have to draft well #1 ,manage your bye weeks closely and try to set up if and when you get to the playoffs,but you cant win without luck.and ive had lots of it,my team is real solid and my hunch that rothisberger would be a top QB has paid off but ive won 5 games by 11 points,all in all its been great and as ive said doc and the guys are great in the post,now we just need to find a way to get people to actually talk.I mean gameday no one post anything?maybe they are all at hoops(sports bar, better than hooters)or something but right now to no fault of doc and the crews,its pretty much questions,i need frikin hippo to get on there,need to see if doc and them can add him to the staff,I think you know im not knocking them it will just take time to build a fan base i quess,but i love the site and dont want them to get discouraged,

  97. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Gotcha… Yeah, Hippo’s welcome any time he wants. All he has to do is let me know.

  98. jamesllegade says:
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    I get 4 keepers… I have Prince, Kemp and Pablo on the list and have to decided on one of these three;

    Jose Reyes
    Robinson Cano
    Andrew McCutchen

    Health vs Scarcity vs Youth

    What say you Grey?

  99. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @jamesllegade: with pablo not being catcher eligible next year id consider not keeping him to keep reyes and cano

  100. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Know what you mean. Doc and Co are doing a great job, but it seems to be strictly business in the fantasy football community.

  101. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Steve: yeah and im not bitching thier imput but trying to get people to participate more in general conversations

  102. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: BTW – dunno if you saw, but wasn’t suggesting we switch to H2H in the keeper. Was just saying I’d prefer standard 5 x 5 roto scoring.

  103. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Steve: yeah i thought so,ive never played h2h baseball and` would love to but i doubt youll get those guys to go 5×5 instead of 7×7,all of them are great guys(maybe not roob)but they are country boys,town of 500,change is not really thier specialty unless it helps get the crops in faster

  104. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: I’ve played H2H since ’03, but after one year of roto I’ve gotta say that I prefer it to H2H.

    H2H can be kinda random – your opponent’s Jorge Cantu has his first hot week in months in the playoffs and your season is toast.

  105. BigFatHippo says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: @Grey: Yeah, I was supposed to originally write with them but got too busy with new job, buying a house, being an alky, etc.

    There’s probably too much research involved for me to give an educated opinion and frankly, I’ve gotten dumber over the years if that’s possible…………….

    Who knows, if I find some free time and some smart pills, you might see me yet on Razzball Football, BigFuckinHippo style!

  106. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BigFatHippo: we want your controversy and humor,not your 5th place advice

  107. Steve says:
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    Zing!

  108. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    smart pills =no drugs,but then again i swear i was smarter when i did smokem peace pipe 10 times a day

  109. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Steve: @AL KOHOLIC: The last smart pills I ate turned out to be rabbit turds………

    My older brother told me to lick a cat’s ass when we were kids cause it’d make me faster, then proceeded to throw a foot race against me, think I got had…………

  110. BigFatHippo says:
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    licked a cat’s ass for two years before i figured it out………..

  111. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BigFatHippo: thats viagra,and it makes you hose fat gals

  112. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BigFatHippo: atleast you got some puddy

  113. BigFatHippo says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Gives Hello Kitty a whole different meaning, here kitty kitty…………..ha!

    Sorry Grey, this has taken a very wrong turn……………..

  114. sean says:
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    Who would you keep from the following list? Choose 1, 2 or 3:

    John Danks, Tulotwitski, Cueto, Torii Hunter, Edwin Jackson, Posada, Nelson Cruz or Ian Stewart.

    I was planning on keeping Tulo (a top player at a weak position), Cruz (it will cost me just a 21st rounder) and Edwin Jackson (hoping next year he puts it all together).

  115. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BigFatHippo: i taught i ta a puddy cat

  116. Grey

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    @BigFatHippo: Ha!

    @sean: I’d possibly keep Stewart over Edwin, but I have no idea of rounds for anyone but Cruz.

  117. jamesllegade says:
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    Wait…I screwed that up. We keep in a 12-57 format which means you can keep 2 of your original keepers and the you have to keep somone you drafted in the 5th (actual first round after keepers) or after and someone you drafted in the 7th round or after.

    So I would have to choose 2 keepers form this group:

    Prince
    Kemp
    Jose Reyes
    Evan Longoria (I actually traded him for a closer to lock up this league’s title last year… but probably could have traded Prince or Kemp instead. Did I make the right move?)

    And 2 from this group:

    Javier Vázquez (9th)
    Cano (10th)
    Pablo (13th)
    Josh Johnson (16th)
    Carpenter (17th)
    Andrew McCutchen (FA)

    Note: You dont getting any advantage for taking people you drafted late. You pick 2 from each group and then everyone else gets dumped in the draft pool.

  118. Grey

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    @jamesllegade: If you won, you made the right move. So are you not choosing from Longoria? If so, I’d keep Prince and Kemp… Then Cano and Pablo. The Pablo selection is tough, I could see going with a pitcher, but I have a feeling you’re going to have a lot of pitchers in your draft with the way your keepers are set up.

  119. La Posse says:
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    Kendry Morales or Joey Votto?

  120. Grey

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    @La Posse: Votto, feel free to take follow-ups to the newest post.

  121. justin says:
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    like the article i have a question its my first time doing a keeper league i get to keep 3 players who would u keep out of ryan braun troy tulowitzki grady sizemore mark reynolds and justin morneau ryan braun and tulowitzki are for sure im more interested in my 3rd keeper strikeouts do count in my league also i have the first pick in the draft if i keep sizemore im thinking about taking joey votto if i keep moreneau i think im taking justin upton would those be bad picks

  122. Grey

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    @justin: I’d take Braun, Tulo, Morneau and Upton. Or Sizemore and Votto. Can’t really lose either way, but I’d go with the first scenario.

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