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There’s not much left to do.  You’ve printed out the 2010 fantasy baseball rankings.  You’ve paid attention when I went over my fantasy baseball sleeper posts.  You even drew a mustache on your mirror so every time you look at yourself you look like me.  The only thing left for you is actually taking part in a fantasy baseball draft.  No sweat, you’ve been mock drafting for the last two months.  First few rounds fly by.  You’re cool with a capital Clooney.  Rounds 5 through 8 come and go.  Nothing to it!  You pack a bowl for yourself for your glaucoma and shotgun it into your cat’s face.  Round 9 comes, Adrian Beltre is drafted right before you and now the first bead of sweat forms.  Where are all of the third basemen?

Suddenly, you’re burning up like you just chugged a bottle of Emeril’s Creole Seasoning.  Worse, you have cotton mouth and have no time to go to the sink.  Outside, it’s raining.  Then “Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink…” starts playing on loop in your head.  Over and over again like a Lady Gaga song chorus.  You look up at the draft timer and you have 30 seconds left.  You look at the reflection of yourself in your framed supposed-to-be-ironic poster that reads, “The glass is half empty, deal with it” and you begin to sob.  Not happy “I just won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar” sobs, but sad “Please let me out of your van; I don’t want my skin to be made into a suit” sobs.  With three seconds left, you draft Chris Davis.

Immediately, everyone in the draft room begins to mock you.  Nice reach, I think Matt Stairs is still available for your corner!… Hey, I didn’t know Bill James was drafting with us!…  You suck! And, with that, you open the window to your bedroom and jump out.  Luckily, you live on the first floor and only bruise your ankle.  You limp back through the house, ignore your Mom’s take-out-the-freakin’-garbage complaints, sit back down at your computer and zombie your way through the rest of the draft.  Only half paying attention because you know you screwed up the Davis pick.

It was a reach.  You probably could’ve took Davis a few rounds later.  But it’s not the ruination of your draft.  Reaching is a part of drafting.  If you’re not reaching for guys that you want then you might not know which guys you want.  You don’t want to reach every single round, but sometimes it’s not only appropriate but it’s necessary.  Wouldn’t you rather have a guy you want in the 9th round then a guy you don’t want in the 16th?  Draw an emoticon on your hand and learn to smile again.  It’ll be all right.

  1. Asdrubal Bastardo says:
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    You brushed on three of my favorite things in this post:

    - Ganja
    - Iron Maiden
    - Fantasy Baseball

    You are the man

  2. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    ah yeah,let the stress begin,

  3. Tom says:
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    So when did you decide to delete Ian Stewart’s name from this post and replace it with Chris Davis?

    Also, is Davis 3B eligible?

  4. Tom says:
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    This begs the question: What’s more fun, “The Reach” or “The Reach Around?”

  5. AJ says:
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    It rubs the lotion on its skin…

  6. Tony says:
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    Just dont take Davis in the 5th last year like so many did.

    2009 is almost guaranteeing he’s a success in 2010. LOL.

  7. grandysdandy says:
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    grey…in my league i have practiced the SAGNOF preachings.

    i have frank francisco, qualls, nunez, soria, bell…all who fell to me later than they should and francisco nunez qualls REALLY late…

    i know bell and soria are more “valuable” to the general public…but should i place more value on these guys? or if i truly practice SAGNOF, do i need a bell or soria?

    i.e….in a proposed deal..me give up a closer and a position player to upgrade that position….should it matter to me whether its bell or qualls???

    thanks.

  8. PJtres says:
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    mista grey sir,

    for a one year only league, is there much difference between an adam lind and manny?

    are you still high on reimold?

  9. Why pick on me this morning?

  10. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    This post id dead on. ADP is a guide to help you see what a realistic team might be: e.g. you’re not getting that Pujols/Utley/Hanley/Zimmerman infield you’ve always dreamed of.

    But too often people think ADP has some inherent value, as in: I took so-and-so in the 8th but his ADP is 10th round! I got burned! Or “I hate such-and-stuff but I couldn’t pass him up in the 11th given his ADP is Round 9.”

    There is only one rule: DRAFT THE TEAM YOU WANT. If your 10th round guy got nabbed early, move on to the 11th round guy. Supposedly you’re targeting these players because you think they’ll outperform their ADP in any case.

  11. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: This post *is* dead on. Sorry, burned my tongue this morning.

  12. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @grandysdandy: i wouldn’t let it bother you too much. if you have 5 guys who have the closer role going into the season, you can deal 1 and at least 2 of the other 4 should be a success. if they aren’t then scoop up the guy that takes over their closer role when they lose it and he’ll probably be a success.

    and awesome post grey. it made my st. paddy’s day morning.

  13. Commish Cauda says:
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    My 16-team H2H-5×5 draft was last night, (thanks for all the help by the way…your unique rankings came in very handy).

    It’s standard 5×5, except:

    -instead of W, it’s W+QS
    -instead of S, it’s Sx2+Holds

    We start 6 SPs and 4 RPs. I ended up with three FLA arms…Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco and Anibal Sanchez…in my top six starters. Billy Wagner and Jose Valverde are my top two RPs, along with a couple of middle relievers.

    I’m thinking of trying to diversify my FLA-heavy staff. What do you think of the following trade:

    Josh Johnson & Jose Valverde
    FOR
    Cole Hamels & Brian Wilson

    Thanks

  14. Lines says:
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    I’m not reaching this year. I’m taking Rajai Davis in the first round, but other than that, I’m not reaching.

    Hold the phone! John McDonald is still on the board in round two! How can I pass that up?

  15. magicterp says:
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    Grey – so funny in so many ways. Thanks for the smiles.

  16. Sammy the Bull says:
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    Grey, how would a ten team, H2H, 6×5 league with a deep bench (11hitters/3SP/2P/2RP/7Bench) and weekly transactions affect your drafting strategy?

  17. R.P. says:
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    remains to be seen how much you’ll help my fantasy teams,but,you CAN write.

  18. Joe Monte says:
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    Help! Now how do I get the Sharpie mustache off my upper lip???

  19. CK says:
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    Grey, I know your projections and rankings are made fairly early on… January or so?

    Anyway, do you update them at any point before the season starts?

    A razzball top 300 v 2.0?

  20. mc serch says:
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    Phenomenal post! Love the line about the bong hit and glaucoma….most everyone has moments of indecision at some point in a draft….gotta keep calm and carry on. Following through on yesterday’s thread, will pick up Fowler, drop Tejada…thanks for the advice..post-draft daquiri on its way!

  21. Jobu's Rum says:
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    Oh hell, thought I was prepared for my draft but now I need a cat.

  22. Frank Rizzo says:
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    You’re damn right I’m reaching for a 3b if necessary. And I’ll have jumped out of the window long before it would come down to Beltre and Whiff Davis as my corner man. It’s probably the only position I’ll reach for because after the top few, the rest scare the crap outta me.

  23. Awesomus Maximus

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    I haven’t been on this site for terribly long, so I don’t know if you regularly put the serious fantasy baseball (<– I think I just created a new oxymoron) articles on hold to entertain the crowd with a more creative piece such as this, but I certainly hope so. That was hilarious.

  24. sean says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: saves are saves are saves. trade the big names to get stars struggling in the first half.

  25. Donald Trump says:
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    One of your most entertaining pieces ever. Well done.

  26. Jobu's Rum says:
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    @Frank Rizzo: I hear ya. My league is deep so 3B can become a problem in a hurry. But you don’t like Beltre? I think he should be good value and could outperform Aramis. Besides the obvious, what has you concerned?

  27. PhillyYorker says:
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    On the champion’s end of a snake draft, I selected Davis and Quentin. Figure if just one of them replicates 2008, I have a steal. If both do, I have a chance of winning again. If neither do, I’m doomed. If you ain’t reachin’, you ain’t tryin’ to win.

    Nice post. Especially since I made my Davis pick yesterday.

  28. Tarasco'sSecretStash says:
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    @ Grey: A most excellent read, thank you. For a late IF flier, you like Ian Desmond or David Freese better for production this year?

  29. Tony says:
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    @PhillyYorker: champions end of a snake draft, i like that, i’ll have to remind my league mates which “END” i’m on and which “END” theyre on….

  30. BKK says:
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    In the world according to Grey, aren’t both Beltre and Davis 12th round value, and thus both guys reached. So stop your worrying and have some fun and laugh at the guy that autopicks Joe Nathan in the 7th.

  31. .(). says:
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    it puts the lotion in the queue

    Damn funny stuff Grey.

  32. BKK says:
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    @PhillyYorker: If you ain’t cheating, you’re not trying, I always say. But that works too.

  33. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @Jobu’s Rum: i will probably end up with 2 of the 3 out of beltre, stewart, and cantu in my primary keeper league, where every half decent 3B is being kept. i figure 1 of those 3 will have a good season and provide stability at 3B, and if i can get 2 of them, i am increasing my chances of having the 1 that does have a good year. not exactly how i wanted things to be, but given the 3B dilemma if you don’t have one of the keeper worthy guys, it’s something you gotta really think about.

  34. Nick from Madison says:
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    If Yahoo hired Grey to write and everyone got this info, it would be the end of fantasy baseball as we know it. Great source of information and hilarious to boot! I’m praying my league-mates never find their way here. Thanks!

  35. Big League Chew says:
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    Right on with this, but there’s not many times that you are off. I think that “reaching” is why all of the legit 3B are gone in the first two rounds. But its definitely not a bad reach if everyone moans in your league that they were going to take that guy 2 rounds later. Also, reaching sometimes can start a run. Not a big fan of reaching for RP, but could start a closer run…”Hey it can happen”.

  36. Tony says:
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    @BKK: you get my email back? i’ll let you know soon on the league. We’re trying to get 12 guys that all know each other somehow in first, then we’re gonna open it up ok. So it might not even be til this weekend.

    BTW what were the 7 pitchers the guy took? i had a guy do that in my league last year…..

  37. Frank Rizzo says:
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    @Jobu’s Rum: Beltre’s a nice last ditch effort at 3b. I don’t agree about Beltre vs. Aramis personally. I’m not in keeper leagues so I don’t have to worry about A-Rod, Wright, Longoria, or Zimmerman being kept. I will own one of them most likely because I don’t want to worry about my 3b position. I don’t want to roll Beltre or Stewart or Chone, or even Aramis out there every day. I want a 4 tool stud at that spot. The position is just so short on top tier talent that I believe you either enjoy the profits of a top 4 guy, or trade him off if needed, for a king’s ransom.

  38. Markm says:
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    That was the one. That was the post that earned you that daiquiri. Actually you earned it long ago but this was the first time I had money in my account…..

  39. mc serch says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: Nothing like hedging a little…I drafted Stewart in accordance with Razzball dogma…hoping for him to live up to the promise…hearing encouraging things out of rockies’ camp regarding a new swing and mindset…taking things the opposite way and all…BTW, anyone know why Glaus doesn’t qualify at 3B this year? He’s only been playing the position for about 10 years!!!

  40. Cuban rafters says:
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    Have a couple guys you want in each round in your head… That way if someone gets picked you aren’t screwed. I always have a back up plan and someone in mind that I tell myself “this is as long as I am waiting before I draft this position.”

  41. Paulie Allnuts

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    Grey – again, you are right on point. Typically, the sticking point in the draft is either 1st or second base. In ESPN, Stewart is rated about 198, so if the mock drafters aren’t Razzers, you have your man. Not so in Yahoo. At third, one might have to stretch a bit, and I often wind up doing so with Davis, figuring that so many people got burnt on him last year that he is undervalued this year.

    @Awesomus Maximus: All of Grey’s columns are both serious and hilarious. And uncannily correct. That’s why we we keep on coming back. Join Razzball nation, and buy a Daiquiri.

    @Jobu’s Rum: Maybe you are in more then one league, but you are in mine fo’ sure. And we play each other week one. Again, like last year, mum’s the word. I don’t even tell my brother, the Rat Bastard, about Razz, and he needs help badly. I do believe that Grey states that Beltre will at least equal Aramis’ production this year, as well.

  42. majortommy says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: Unfortunantly I work with my brother and he heard me laughing one day while at my computer, after lurking over my shoulder he now reads the columns as well. It would suck if not for the fact that his team is never competetive(although I did help him out by trading him Morales and Aramis for Adam Jones in our keeper league(CF is a position in our league))

  43. Grey just gave me carte blanche to draft Mini Donkey!!!!

  44. Frank Rizzo says:
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    FYI – Elijah Dukes has been released by Washington.

  45. BP says:
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    Grey – Lesson to be learned here. Always S your B pre-draft. It makes watching the clock countdown a little more exciting.

    I am with CK on this – can we get an updated top 300. Or at least 100?

  46. Kyle says:
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    Grey,
    Gil Meche or Joel Pineiro? Why?
    Thanks

  47. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Asdrubal Bastardo: Thanks!

    @AL KOHOLIC: Hehe

    @Tom: He’s eligible at Yahoo.

    @grandysdandy: It shouldn’t matter, per se, But others will covet Bell more so he’s worth more.

    @PJtres: I like Reimold. Lind is a few rounds better than Manny.

    @zombie: Huh?

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Yup, and sorry about the tongue.

    @ThePoonTycoon: Thanks!

    @Commish Cauda: I’d take Hamels.

    @Lines: Ha!

    @magicterp: Thanks!

    @Sammy the Bull: Sounds pretty similar to drafting a 12 team H2H team, so it wouldn’t change much.

    @R.P.: Thanks, I think.

    @Joe Monte: Probably should’ve just Sharpie’d the mirror, so it looked like it was on your face when you looked at yourself.

    @CK: I’ve been updating them. Berkman wasn’t always that late, Nathan was there, so on.

    @mc serch: Thanks!

    @Jobu’s Rum: Hehe

    @Awesomus Maximus: Thanks!

    @Donald Trump: Thanks!

    @PhillyYorker: Thanks!

    @Tarasco’sSecretStash: No problem. For UTIL spot? I really like Desmond, but he might not make the club. I’d grab him for now to see what happens.

    @.().: Thanks!

    @Nick from Madison: Thanks!

    @Big League Chew: Yup.

    @Markm: Thanks!

    @Cuban rafters: There ya go.

    @Paulie Allnuts: Thanks!

    @Frank Rizzo: Wouldn’t want to be his locker today. Thanks for the heads up!

    @Elijah: Ha!

    @BP: Has been.

    @Kyle: Punt? Take Pineiro.

  48. Mr.MojoRisin says:
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    40+ responses before the west coast wakes up… Must have been the reefer reference! ROTFL!
    This whole post is gonna be my live draft, except earlier… Only 10 hitters get saved in my league and 4 of them are at 3B!
    Thank god we draft in a basement, because then I won’t even get a bruise when I jump out of the window!

  49. kwak says:
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    Draft thoughts. When I’m reading sites like this one, I often get the distinct impression that I have some different ideas about positions than most.

    In my major league, we play 2C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 5OF, CI, MI, DH. (plus a bunch of pitchers).

    The overriding attitude seems to be that filling the “normal” positions is more important, then you fill in with chaff at the end of the draft at MI, CI and DH.

    I had a major paradigm shift a couple years ago when I really stopped thinking too intently about position and just took the best player available (assuming there was still SOME place to fit them). If I already have 2 top 1st baseman, and Adrian Gonzales has fallen, I always snatch him up for the DH slot.

    I figure the stats at those periphery slots are just as important. Like the post about reaching says, if you have your eye on a guy, take him as long as he fits (whoa, that sounds dirty).

    Am I crazy? Is this obvious?

  50. Jobu's Rum says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: Believe it or not, I’m not the same guy. I only play one league and it’s roto so it can’t be me. You scared me though; I can’t have any leaguemates reading this shizz.

    Let me get your opinion, Paulie. My league is 16 deep, and I’m taking Pujols at #1 which leaves me with picks 32 and 33 at the turn. I’ll probably take Zimm if he’s still there, but if not I might “punt 3B” and take a top 2B (Phillips) while targeting Beltre later on. What are your thoughts? Do you use a high pick to lock up 3B or 2B this year?

  51. Pat says:
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    A great example of this…I am in a 12 team league that start SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P. In the 6th, I was targeting Lester, and he got picked right before me. Instead of taking the next pitcher, who would have been a ridiculous reach, I took Reyes. Then, in the seventh (I picked at the end), I got Nolasco, who was my best avail., but a reach by about a round and a half by Grey’s rankings. I then took Wandy in the eighth, and got right back into the pitching competition.

  52. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:
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    @majortommy: I have to admit that I am riddled with guilt – not so much for neglecting to help out my brother, but for denying Grey outside support. It is a moral issue, but I have an obvious character flaw, and can’t resist going for blood in fantasy sports. I have not tossed my wife off the bus yet, although others in my league perhaps think so, having vetoed a few trades that we have agreed to. Perhaps I need to dust off my copy of Jonathan Edwards’ “Sinners in the hands of an Angry God” and repent.

    A great anecdote – famous Yankee manager Joe McCarthy ordered his long-suffering wife to pray every day for his team to win. She would go to daily mass and light a candle for the team. One day, her spiritual efforts apparently failed, and Joe came home in a bleak mood. The Mrs told Joe “Don’t feel so bad, hon, we still have each other.” To which Joe replied “That is true, but I would have traded you for a Sacrifice Fly in the Ningth today if I had the chance.”

  53. Paulie Allnuts

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    @Jobu’s Rum: I doubt that Zimm would be there, but I certainly would take him if he were. I would also take Phillips or Cano at that spot as well. If both were there, you would have a terrific infield right off the bat.

    It’s hard to believe that there is another Jobu’s Rum, and both of you read Razzball. Maybe you are his Doppleganger. Last year we made a solemn pact not to tell anybody else about Razzball nation.

  54. Paulie Allnuts

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    @Jobu’s Rum: Another thing that I have noticed is that in mocks, Sizemore and Werth are lasting a lot longer then Grey’s projections. They should be around at the turn of the snake.

  55. tyler says:
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    Query:

    I’m in a 5×5, 12 team H2H, weekly transactions league. The rub is, there’s no minimum IP requirement. Seems to me that the right strategy is Lincecum, stud hitters, and 5 closers/MR? I.e., only draft 1 starter and otherwise load up on offense and relievers with good ratios?

    We’re in the midst of a fast-moving email draft right now, so any advice would be much appreciated.

  56. So you wanna punt BOTH K’s and W’s tyler??? You should go read Grey’s article on HTH strategies.

  57. The Dude says:
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    @tyler: If you do that you automatically give up Wins and K’s every week. You still might lose ERA and WHIP if a reliever blows up, or your opponent has a stellar week. You can punt 1 cat in H2H, but punting 2 is dangerous.

  58. Neil says:
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    @kwak: I used to feel that way…take the guy with the most value on the board…but by round 6, 7, 8, you need to start filling your needs/holes. So even if there is a great hitter bargain on the board, if we’re in round 9 and I only have 1 SP, I’m going to have to let that bargain go so I can fill my pitching.

    If you’re drafting a league from scratch, I don’t think it’s the worst thing in the world to start with 3 OF or 2 1B and a 3B…if those are the best guys that were on the board then cool beans. But it’s nice to start a draft with a top 1B, 2B, 3B, OF as opposed to something lopsided like 3 OF and 1 SP.

  59. Plus the strategy wouldn’t guarantee winning saves, ERA, and Whip. 1 or 2 blown saves a week and you are probably getting swept in the pitching cats. Unless you were sweeping all 5 offensive cats nearly every week you wont do well.

  60. Jarrad says:
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    I hope you can get a daiquiri for $4.98. That was all I had left in my PayPal…

  61. tyler says:
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    @The Dude: @Elijah: Well, that was fairly unanimous. Perhaps I took it to too much of an extreme, but I think I’m right to conclude that relievers with good ratios are much more valuable in this format, and that middle and lower-tier starters are much less valuable. Maybe it’s take 2 stud SPs, 1 Hamels/Nolasco/Beckett and no other SPs.

  62. Tony says:
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    @kwak: thats what I do KWAK…. i personally dont care what spot its filling, stats are stats… its nice to fill each position, but you can’t take cano in the 4th round if votto slid there?

    @tyler: you’re punting wins and K’s then….? unless you’re planning on streaming SP’s?

  63. @tyler:

    Let me just say I tried something similar with Webb and Hamels last year. Guess how it went?

  64. Tony says:
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    @tyler: i think you’re really undervaluing starting pitching…. not really sure why? you’ll never win K’s or wins with two sp’s unless the other guy has the same strategy or totally tanks that week…

  65. slumlords says:
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    That was one of the funniest entries in the blog I’ve read in a long time, and a good reminder to keep some humor and practicality in the draft process. Cheers!

  66. Tony says:
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    @Elijah: haha thats true too, you pencil in Lincecum as your only starter and he goes down? THEN WHAT? depth is key… just because you think lince/others will get you certain stats doesn’t mean they will come thru….

  67. tyler says:
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    Think about it at extremes: If you had to throw 100 IP a week, the value of Lincecum goes way down (because his relative impact is very low) and the value of Barry Zito goes up (cause it was nothing before).

    Conversely, if you could ONLY throw 1 IP per week, the value of Zito drops to nothing, and the value of Rivera goes through the roof.

    Here, it’s in between those two extremes, but much closer than a normal league to the latter than the former.

  68. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    @kwak: i agree to an extent. if say gonzalez is clearly the best hitter regardless of position on the board at your 3rd round pick, i’d probably take him and fill another position later. but if it’s close, like say gonzalez and zimmerman are sitting there looking at you in the 3rd round and you have a 1B and no 3B, i’d probably lean zimmerman, because i expect the value of gonzalez and zimmerman to be similar (at least until gonzalez leaves petco).

    but there is definitely a time and place for filling util roles early.

  69. Eddy says:
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    Grey that has to be the funniest post you’ve written since I started reading back in December. Thanks for putting a smile on my face right after waking up!

    And to the Razzballers talking about Chris Davis- Im not sure about in ESPN, but in Yahoo, not only is he 1B/3B eligible, he tends to go undrafted sometimes. I’ve pretty much targeted him in all my mocks in the 23rd round.

    And I need an opinion. I raised the innings requirement in my 12 team H2H to 35 this season. When we had 21 last year no one ever had a problem. Is this too big of a leap, or just fine?

  70. @tyler:

    I thought about it. I tried it. It was a total and Utter disaster. I can’t recommend you repeat my experience of spending all season scrounging up the JA Happs and Randy Wells of the world. I managed to make it work out but I was 30 games outta first by week 6.

    The biggest problem with the plan is even a real strong offensive team wont be sweeping near as often as you like. Inevitably you have weeks where the other guy has Pujols and he hits like 5 HRS in the week, or some guy steals 8 bases in a week, etc etc.

  71. Grey

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    @Mr.MojoRisin: Hehe

    @Paulie Allnuts: Nice anecdote.

    @tyler: You can go that way, but you would be punting Ks and Wins, which isn’t good. I wouldn’t go with one starter for reasons previously mentioned. I would try and win all the categories and hope to get 3 or 4 of five.

    @Jarrad: Thanks!

    @slumlords: Thanks!

    @Eddy: Thanks! 35 seems fine.

  72. Ian says:
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    Grey, it looks like Street will start the year on the DL. Do you grab Betancourt, Corpas or Morales?

  73. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Ian: Corpas or Morales, in that order.

  74. zorob1 says:
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    Which is the better 2B-SS combo? Utley and Rollins or Uggla and Hanley?

  75. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @zorob1: Utley’s side.

  76. Bob says:
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    @Grey: This was a freaking hilarious post!!! Hello morning coffee, meet my keyboard.

    Quoting me at my Fantasy Anonymous meeting last night:

    “Hello, my name is Bob, and I reached for Chris Davis in the 12th round. It’s great to know that I am not alone.”

    BTW, he just struck out three times the other day. Are you still optimistic about a comeback?

  77. Tony says:
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    @Eddy: my 12 team Yahoo H2H league has an inning MIN of 32 and its been great…. some guys actually wanted to raise it to 40 last year BUT we stuck with 32.

  78. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Bob: He’s worth a chance in the later rounds.

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    @Tony: “taking Chris Davis in the 5th”… Sigh. That was me. FAIL!

  80. Tony says:
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    @JoeC: haha…. woulda been me last year but someone else got their first, HA, thank god!

    Who is this years HYPED guy thats gonna bust? Davis was bad, real badddddd…… 5th rounder to the minors? BLEH.

  81. The Dude says:
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    @Tony: I say it’s Hill and Zobrist. How they’re going in the top 50 of some drafts is beyond me.

  82. sean says:
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    Rumor today that the Twins may trade Casilla and Perkins to the Dodgers for Sherrill

  83. Jobu's Rum says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: Yeah, I’m actually targeting Werth at pick 33. I will definately exit the turn with an OF. So the issue is, do I take Youk/Donkey at 3B or Phillips/Cano and fill 2B. I feel like the drop in 2B is farther and riskier, so I’m leaning toward 2B if Zimm is off the board.

  84. Tony says:
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    @The Dude: ya at least those doodes had a good year last year…. Davis did nothing and was proclaimed the next babe ruth. What was bill james prediction last yr like 50 some HR’s?

    I think zobrist might bust. I actually have a little more faith in HILL? Maybe its because I took him in the very last round in 2008 when he was “concussed” and then said “ehhhh i’ll pass in 2009″. And we all know what happened from there….

  85. sean says:
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    PS: Anyone who is thinking about drafting Heyward in the middle of the draft should remember that Troy Glaus is hitting .579

  86. Tony says:
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    @Jobu’s Rum: if u take donkey you almost have to go cano to balance the average back…. if you go Youk you could go either cano or phillips….

    probbaly have to go phillips with youk, since youk wont give you much speed if any…

  87. JoeC says:
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    Well, I hope it’s not Zobrist, since I took him in the… wait for it… 5th round this year! Doh!

  88. The Dude says:
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    @Grey: Speaking of Cano – there’s talk of him hitting in the 5 hole behind Arod. Does that change your projections on him at all?

  89. Grey

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    @The Dude: Nope

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  90. herschel says:
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    5 x 5 12 team roto. Which team would you rather go with:

    Team A: Tulo, Zimm, shmohawk catcher (Soto, Martin, etc), 18th round pick

    Team B: V Mart, Sandoval, shmohawk ss (Andrus, Cabrera, etc), 8th round pick

    Great post by the way…

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