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I know how much you love draft strategy.  Whether it’s snake draft or auction draft.  You gobble this shizz up.  Okay, I wasn’t speaking literally, don’t eat your computer.  Auction drafts are the best.  They remind me of a time not that long ago when I wore a giant-fonted Yuuuuuuuuuup on my chest and bought twenty-four dollars worth of 1980’s wrestling action figures for $5600 just so Darrell Sheets couldn’t get them.  I will enjoy putting those little plastic Greg “The Hammer” Valentine action figures into the figure four with my son, Lil’ Yuuuuuuuuuup; he officially changed his name at my behest.  There’s ten U’s in my Yuuuuuuuuuup.  If you use nine or eleven U’s, you are still infringing on my trademark.  So, lots of you know my fantasy baseball auction tips already, but some of you just joining us — hey, close the door behind you! — may not.  Lots of the strategy for my snake drafts also applies here.  If you ask me — and you kinda did ask me by reading this shizz — auction drafts are where it’s at, yo!  You get in a room with your best fantasy baseball buddies.  The guys you haven’t seen since last year’s draft.  The guys you don’t want to see until next year’s draft.  A few guys you actively despise.  One guy, and there’s always one, has his phone on vibrate just in case the missus calls about Petey, their sick Schnauzer.  Then you have the guy who will go the extra dollar for (fill-in favorite player from his favorite team).  You know he’s his favorite player because he’s wearing his jersey.  There’s also the guy who wears a jersey of a player he would never draft from a team he hates just to throw you off his scent.  You have the guy who brings only Cheetos and turns everything he touches orange, and, if he touches something that was already orange, he makes it oranger.  Finally, you have the guy who made plans at 5PM and begins to yell at everyone at 4PM that they’re taking too long.  And, it always turns out, this day is the best day of the year.  Auction draft day is better than your wedding day.  As for online auction drafts, they’re just a’ight.  Anyway, here’s some tried and true tips to help you through your auction fantasy baseball draft:

1. Early in the draft, throw out guys that you know you have no interest in that will cost others a lot.

Say Curtis Granderson, doing his best Fausto Carmona impersonation, snuck into a 21 and under club with a fake ID and took your baby’s mama home.  Now you refuse to draft him.  So the first name you should nominate is Grandy and let others overspend on him.  You don’t want high-priced pitching?  Nominate Verlander.  You think Mike Napoli is overrated?  Nominate him.  You get the idea.  Moving on…

2. Go the extra dollar if you really want someone.

When you get to the end of the auction, no one has any flippin’ idea what they spent to get a guy.  If you want Matt Moore and every auction value article you’ve read says he’s worth $10 and the bidding’s just gone to $11, go to $12 if you want him.  It’s your team; you need certain guys whether they’re overpriced or not.

3. You want to be “rich” with auction money.

You won’t always have the most money at the draft, but, whenever possible, you want to.  The more money you have A) The better leverage you have attaining any guy you might want. B) You can get great buys late in the draft when no one else has any money.  Invariably, someone will throw out, say, Dexter Fowler for a dollar (or some player that they think they can sneak through).  Then you get Fowler for $2 and everyone in the draft room groans, wishing they still had some money.  At your draft, you want to be like the little tuxedoed guy from Monopoly.  In fact, dress like him for your draft.

4. Decent catchers and closers are even easier to acquire in auctions.

In a snake draft, you never know when the Arencibia, Iannetta, Putz, Nathan or whoever is going to be drafted.  The beauty of the auction is you can have anyone.  In my experience, you should wait until most of the teams have filled up their closers or catcher(s) slot then you nominate some one dollar beauts.

5. Keep track of who other people want.

The beauty of the auction is you know exactly what everyone else is thinking.  If Joe Schmohawk goes to $10 on Espinosa and you get him for $11, keep J.S. in mind when you’re looking to trade Espinosa after his hot April.  If someone groans when you get Alex Presley, keep it in mind.  Unless it’s the same guy who’s been eating nothing, but Cheetos for ten hours.  Then it might just be gas.

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  1. Shiz says:
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    Keeper question 12 team with MI CI 4 OF 1 UTL 9 P slots. Keep 6 players in round they were drafted in previous year w/ accelerated round costs for every extra year u keep a player. I am keeping han ram(1st), cargo(4th), Kemp(3rd), Kinsler(2nd) and Strasburg (20th) the last spot is between 4 options Kung fu Panda (7th round) or Craig Kimbrel (11th round) or Michael Pineda (22nd round) or Brandon Beachy (24th round).

    Torn here my gut tells me take the offense and go sandoval but the closers get snapped up a lot quicker in this league and Kimbrel numbers in the 11th round are pretty darn nice. Also could go with another SP in which case I am leaning towards beachy, might try and get a trade going, but it is not always easy in the league I play in. Just looking for as much feedback as possible. Appreciate it. Thanks

    Shiz

    Ps. this is the Best fantasy site bar none, I read it every day, thanks Rudy, Grey and the other contributors you guys are the most informative and funny combination of fantasy baseball goodness that anyone could ever want.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Shiz, Thanks for the kind words! Beachy…

  2. malacoda says:
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    I have hosted and run 26 auctions for football and baseball going back to 1999. There is no better, or more fun way to put together a team. The baseball auction is the best day of the year, period. Here is another tip: if you are the auctioneer AND an owner, go into every auction with a blueprint for your team. You won’t have time to do as much research on the fly as the other owners as they casually leaf through stats/money counts while you are wielding the gavel. It keeps you from making dumb mistakes. Stick to your guns as much as possible. Your team won’t come out exactly as planned, but it will be reasonably close.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @malacoda, Yeah, being auctioneer’s not easy.

  3. TheNewGuy says:
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    Ha nice job Grey. So would you say its best to always nominate players you don’t want, until right near the end? That way others can spend on them which should help keep you near the most auction money out of everyone. Also I guess you have to keep an open mind moreso in auctions about who to draft, if theres a bargain on someone you didn’t plan on drafting do you go for it?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TheNewGuy, Thanks! Yeah, everyone’s draftable at the right price. Well, except Liriano.

  4. Boston Fans Are Stoopid says:
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    Great advice as usual Grey. One thing I like to do at auctions is nominate “sleepers” early. Everybody thinks they have the next big thing pegged but reality is everybody in the room knows about the guy and has them on their “sleeper list”. So I love blowin’ up peeps spots when the sleeper they wanted for a buck goes for waaaaay more than that. It’s an auction, have some fun. I guess fun for me is watching people in suffer a little?

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Boston Fans Are Stoopid, A German red sox hater, eh? Fan of the brown sox?

      • Boston Fans Are Stoopid says:
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        @Wake Up, Not necessarily buy I am a big fan of brown trout.

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Boston Fans Are Stoopid, nice

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Boston Fans Are Stoopid, Thanks for the kind words! Yeah, unless you want a ‘sleeper’ too.

      • Boston Fans Are Stoopid says:
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        @Grey, Truth.

  5. schlitzy says:
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    Interested to know if you have a price limit for players (e.g., I will not pay more than 30 for any hitter or 20 for any pitcher) and does the limit go higher in a nl or al only.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @schlitzy, I try not to go over $30, but I don’t have a hard fast number. Limit would go up a buck or two in single leagues.

  6. Dingbat says:
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    Do people have examples of common auction rookie mistakes to avoid? My league is leaning toward doing an auction for the first time this year, and I’d like to have a sense of the most common errors people make.

    • Eddy says:
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      @Dingbat,

      I’ve only done one auction draft so by no means am I as qualified as those who have done tons, but one mistake I exploited from my noobie league mates was always setting a price either at or above the players default price.

      E.g: last year Pujols was at $49 in Yahoo. I started the bidding at $50. My teammates thought process was “I’m not going to let this guy get away with paying only one dollar above normal”, so they bid to $51 and then it escalated. Sit back and enjoy.

      Also, don’t worry about the first 5-10 closers off the board. They’ll always be overpriced. Catchers, speed and saves are the cheapest at the end of the draft.

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @Dingbat, You throw out guys that you don’t want at a high price, and hope your league mates bite (however this could bite you in the ass as well). I usually throw players i don’t want for a few dollars less then i know they’ll go for. The guys you do want, you throw them out for $1. And let the biddini g begin.

      Like grey says above, i think the biggest mistake is solely going by projected $$ values, and not bidding towards the needs of your teams.

      If the draft is almost over, and you are severely lacking in a category. You can’t be afraid to be pay a little more than what a player is worth.

    • schlitzy says:
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      @Dingbat, you really need to be patient. It is possible that you won’t buy a player for an hour. but there is a point in every auction where you will notice bargains starting to happen. at that point you can pretty much have whatever players you want. I am going in to my fifth year of an NL only auction league that I won last year for the first time. I got startting players at every position. the most I paid for a player was Brian McCann at $23 (I find that McCann is undervalued in this league each year in terms of the production he provides for the price).

      • dingbat says:
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        @Eddy, @ The Talented Mr. Dope Man, @schlitzy, Awesome, thanks for all of the tips!

    • Rabbit says:
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      @Dingbat, One of the best things about auctions is every one is different. You could run an auction once, and then have the exact same owners do the auction again and the outcoem would be different. So one of the most important things you can do is “read” the auction room. Are the other owners doing a “Stars and Scrubs” approach so there are bidding wars driving up the prices of the highest talent (Kemp, Pujols, Votto, etc.)? Let them spend their money, adn then try to populate your team with midrange and upper midrange guys. Are the other owners treating their values sheets as gospel so they won’t go $1 over what they have listed for each player? Go the extra dollar or two and get a few hitters that are sure things to use as the foundation for your offense. Some auction rooms love closers, some hate them; some rooms overpay for top pitching but some eriously underpay. I doubt that you’ll find any auction room where you can get a top 10 hitter for less than full value, but there are auctions where you can get a top 10 SP for less than his calculated value. The key, to my mind, is to read the room, plan accordingly and take the bargains where you find them. Also, while it is often good to have more money at teh end of the draft to pick up those values at $2, that’s not always the best strategy: you may find that a few other owners are trying to do the same thing, so you’ll end up bidding up those “values” at the end of the draft so that they’re no longer values. In that sort of auction, you may be better off looking for value 3/4 through the draft, with players in the $5-10 zone.
      Most of all, enjoy it. Auctions are fantastic. Once you go auction, you never go back.

  7. Harley says:
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    @Everyone: Other than NFBC, what sites do you guys play fantasy baseball for $ on? I use http://www.phenomsff.com, but I can’t find any others. I’m looking for daily line-up changes. Thanks in advance for your help!

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @Harley, CBS sports – Commissioner

  8. Rob says:
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    Mustering my finest Text to Columns & VLOOKUP skills – I bounced Grey’s top 300 against ESPN’s top 300 to see where the big delta’s are in value. Excluding the Marco Scutaro’s and Yadier Molina big delta’s, here are a few of the more interesting differences.

    Player ESPN Rank Razz Rank Delta
    Peter Bourjos 238 94 -144
    Jose Tabata 283 149 -134
    Trevor Cahill 271 158 -113
    Ike Davis 208 97 -111
    Ryan Howard 196 86 -110
    Danny Valencia270 167 -103
    Colby Rasmus 206 114 -92
    Danny Espinosa189 101 -88
    Emilio Bonifacio214 126 -88
    Austin Jackson 256 169 -87
    Alex Rios 197 113 -84
    Delmon Young 251 170 -81
    Carlos Quentin 224 147 -77
    Jhoulys Chacin 232 157 -75
    Howie Kendrick118 45 -73
    Mark Reynolds 156 83 -73
    Brennan Boesch261 194 -67
    Justin Morneau 272 205 -67
    Logan Morrison153 93 -60
    Mike Moustakas190 135 -55
    Adam Lind 135 84 -51
    Jake Peavy 285 234 -51
    Jesus Montero 188 139 -49
    Buster Posey 127 81 -46
    Kevin Youkilis 100 55 -45
    Gio Gonzalez 132 87 -45
    Kendry Morales248 203 -45
    Michael Young 98 57 -41

    Theres a bunch of others that i excluded because they are lame, or small differences for first round picks like Votto and Longoria.

    So that shows you where you can find value, below will show you how much higher your league mates may be on some brochacho’s

    Hiroki Kuroda 147 300 153
    Carlos Lee 155 298 143
    Stephen Drew 160 293 133
    David Ortiz 67 184 117
    Josh Willingha 184 286 102
    Jason Kubel 199 295 96
    Jeremy Hellicks 94 189 95
    Chris Sale 177 271 94
    Michael Bourn 34 125 91
    Freddie Freem 120 207 87
    Ryan Braun 39 119 80
    Chris Carpente79 142 63
    Michael Pineda 92 154 62
    Martin Prado 168 229 61 (better than the 50th or so rank they gave him last yr)
    Carlos Pena 192 253 61
    Ichiro Suzuki 90 148 58
    Adam Wainwrig99 155 56
    Jordan Walden 163 217 54
    Corey Hart 62 115 53
    Brandon McCar179 230 51
    James Shields 65 112 47
    Wandy Rodrigu166 213 47
    Matt Moore 75 121 46
    Ben Zobrist 51 95 44
    Jered Weaver 30 64 34
    Ian Kennedy 73 107 34
    Mike Napoli 47 80 33
    Curtis Granders22 37 15

    Wow do they love them some Michael Bourn this year! What else stands out to you?

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @Rob, that’s a great list man. thanks for the work!

    • Tony says:
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      @Rob, ya man thanks thats an awesome list

    • Tony says:
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      @Rob, these rankings will probly move as more mocks/drafts happen… just to keep in mind, and as players are announced as starters, healthy, etc…..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rob, Great stuff! Wow, Michael Bourn. Wow.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey, Albert has Bourn that high too…I was shocked

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Rob, great list, but keep it on the D/L!! There are lots of eyes on this page you dig? :)

    • Rabbit says:
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      @Rob, Wait a sec–Grey like Morneau better than ESPN does? Whaaa?

      Thanks for the list Rob–great stuff.

  9. sean says:
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    Not sure if these have been discussed, but has anyone worked with the expert consensus rankings over at fantasypros.com? I guess they’ve compiled 25 or so of the ‘perts’ rankings and projections. I think it’s a good way to get a feel for the direction the herd will move in…

    http://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/rankings/overall.php

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Jake, now that is some plate coverage…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Wake Up, Ha!

  10. Tony says:
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    auctions are great, i’ve never done a baseball one, but I’m in a long time running basketball league, 18 teams, all meet up, drink, curse, and auction on a sat in the Fall. It’s hands down the best thing I’ve ever been a part of….

    Some things that I think are good strategies are the throwing out players you don’t want. We have keepers and I was guard Heavy so I did not need a guard so I threw one out for my first nomination that I knew would draw out some cash. Now a low-lite to this strategy…. It depends what point of the draft your in. Don’t get cute trying to nominate someone you dont want and get stuck with that player. Like I did my first year. I throw out a player, CRICKETS, sold…. to me.

    Also Don’t get caught up bidding trying to drive a price up on a player. I’ve seen that happen too many times. You get caught up in the fun of trying to extract one more dollar out of your buddy and boom, he stops, you’re stuck….

    Also #3! Know how much money you have left. Try and not leave money on the table. It sucks knowing you were in a bidding war for miggy but you quit because you didn’t want to go over a certain amount THEN at the end of the draft you’ve got $14 on the table that would have easily bought you miggy instead of…. whoever.

    Know who you want and dont be afraid to go after them.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tony, Great comment!

  11. kwadjo says:
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    It seems like everyone tries to nominate high priced players that they don’t want or trendy “sleepers” early. In my league it’s to the point where everyone else is very weary of that strategy, so I’ve started doing the opposite. I’ll throw out non-sexy solid middle of the road guys that I want early and inevitably they go at a bargain as opposed to later in the draft when people have money to spend.

    Now for a question: In my 12 team NL-only keeper league I have the opportunity to keep count ‘em 5 first basemen (Ike, Gaby, Freddie, Morse, Alonso). Two are OF eligible so I can play all five, but it limits my flexibility. I have other players I could keep that are slightly better values, but I kind of like the idea of screwing the rest of the league at 1B. So which is better? Keep the best values and have more roster flexibility or keep all 5 1B’s and then try to trade one of them to a desperate owner after the draft?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @kwadjo, Yeah, could totally work that way too. I wouldn’t keep all five, but I don’t know who else you’re choosing from.

      • kwadjo says:
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        @Grey,

        OK, here are my choices. They can be kept for only one more year unless otherwise noted: Ike ($9), Freeman ($9), Morse ($9), Gaby ($11), Alonso ($5, 2 years of eligibility), Morrison ($9), R. Roberts ($6, 2 yrs of eligibility), Bourgeous ($7, 2 yrs of eligibility), D. Murphy ($5, 2 yrs of eligibility) , Wolf ($5, 2 yrs of eligibility). I can keep 6.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @kwadjo, Not great choices…. I’d keep the first six.

          • kwadjo says:
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            @Grey,

            Nope, not great for most leagues, but this one is very deep and I actually have better options then most. Thanks…it looks like the rest of the league are going to be overpaying for first baseman (I can see it now…$20 for Adam LaRoach).

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @kwadjo, Gotcha…

  12. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    @ Grey- I’m seriously addicted to that show (and i seriously hate the “yuuuuuuup” guy). Love the old dude that rolls up in the pimped out rides.

    Question: What’s your thoughts on Ichiro hitting third? I’ve always read that Ichiro has some crazy untapped power potential, he just never took big swings because he was leading off. I’m thinking the Mariners projected lineup looks like this (actually much better then it looked last year).

    1) Chone Figgins, 3B
    2) Dustin Ackley, 2B
    3) Ichiro, RF
    4) Mike Carp, LF
    5) Justin Smoak, 1B
    6) Jesus Montero, DH
    7) Miguel Olivo, C
    8) Franklin Gutierrez, CF
    9) Brendan Ryan, SS

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, ha i have no clue how that smiley face got in there… MAGIC!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, Are you a Mariners fan?

      • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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        @Grey, no not at all, complete other side of the nation. Just have always been intrigued with Ichiro.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, Don’t think hitting third is going to make him have power, but at the right price I could see owning him.

          • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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            @Grey, some reports are saying he’s working on a new wider stance over the winter and planning on hitting for power.

            • Alcesto says:
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              @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, Ichiro can bomb when he wants to, but remains to be seen if Ichiro can hit for average or power after last year.

    • Tony says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, dave hester is the YUUUUUP guy, Barry is the old dude that owns/drives 48 different cars that are all pimped out, and he’s always wearing those skeleton gloves, BA!

      • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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        @Tony, haha yeah. Barry’s the man. He hardly ever makes any money tho…

  13. Bristol says:
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    Grey

    I play in a head to head points keeper league. Each year, we are allowed to keep 5 players at the spot where there were drafted the previous year. Free Agents are kept with last picks.

    For this year, here is my list of prospective keepers. Which five would you keep> One thing to keep in mind is that I have the #2 pick in the draft which will net me either Votto or Longoria. You may see Bautista as a last round pick. We let people keep players for 3 years at the round that they were initially chosen and kept. He has 2 years left to be kept at that position.

    Brandon Morrow – 5th
    Ryan Zimmeramn – 6th
    Jason Heyward – 8th
    Elvis Andrus – 9th
    Rickie Weeks – 10th
    Mat Latos – 22nd
    Desmond Jennings – 24th
    Brett Lawrie – 24th
    Jose Bautista – 24th
    Cory Luebke -24th

    My first crack is to keep all the late round guys so I can clean up early on (Latos, Jennings, Lawrie, Bautista, Luebke)

    What say you?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Bristol, Mat Latos – 22nd
      Desmond Jennings – 24th
      Brett Lawrie – 24th
      Jose Bautista – 24th
      and
      Elvis Andrus – 9th — Could go other ways though instead of Andrus.

  14. ajk says:
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    in a league where hits and OBP are added to the standard 5 catagories, would you bump leadoff hitters up significantly?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @ajk, Nope

  15. chilidavis says:
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    Any Razzball leagues still open? I’d love to join one if so.

  16. Wake Up says:
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    btway, I’m assuming most of us received an email today from ESPN(unless I was the lucky winner, which is unlikely because I also won the Nigerian lottery today(well, once I mail this money order) so the odds of winning twice or being a twinner, seem to good to be true. Anyone else find it interesting that they refer to it as a manifesto, since their rankings are guano-crazy?

    • The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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      @Wake Up, Did you check out the ZIPS rankings (released today). talk about some crazy shit… Bryan Lahair projected for 24 home runs…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, good point

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up, Nice

  17. Beau says:
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    When is razzball going to publish their auction values? If not in time for my keeper deadline is there another good site?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Beau, There’s auction values coming beginning of next week with Point Shares. There’s also some on the War Room.

  18. Daniel says:
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    20 team h2h with 25 keepers. Can only keep 2 from jon jay, j.d. martinez and brett Jackson. Which 2 should it be?

    • Grey

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      @Daniel, Martinez, Jackson, as long as you have someone to play in Jackson’s stead if he doesn’t make the club at first.

  19. Brandon says:
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    Grey, would it be poor Razzball etiquette for me to create a Yahoo auction draft 5X5 H2H league and post it in the comments? Sounds like there is lots of interest in a league like that. I don’t want to step on anyone’s toes though.

  20. giantjj says:
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    hello grey, with news of figgins leading off, how late would you target him in a 20 team league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @giantjj, Around the 15th…

  21. Brandon says:
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    Alright here it is:

    Standard Yahoo 5×5 H2H 12 team league
    Live auction draft Tuesday, Feb. 28 9:00PM Eastern
    League Name: The Blimpotence League
    League ID: 80852
    League Password: SAGNOF

    Any questions, email me at brandon467 at gmaildotcom.

    • Brandon says:
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      Also, first 11 to sign up are in.

  22. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    <—————— patiently waiting for razzball podcast…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, Won’t have to wait much longer…

      • 3FingersBrown says:
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        @Grey, Word??? Can’t wait!

        I haven’t yet found a FBB podcast that I could stand listening to. ESPN Baseball today (not Matthew Berry’s show) is decent, but I listen to that more for injury and bullpen comings and goings.

        Good stuff with auction strategies. It’s all about nominating (and sometimes even bidding up) the guys you don’t want. Just don’t get stuck with them!

        “You know you want John Lackey. He’s right there. Take him…”

        Another useful tip is to SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY. I learned that the hard way – that’s why the all-caps. I’m all about being the Monopoly Man at the draft but don’t go in for so many bargains that you end up with money to spend and no player slots left. Sounds dumb but it’s something to be aware of.

        • Grey

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          @3FingersBrown, Figured it goes without saying, but I guess some people might end up with money on the table. That’s never a good thing, you’re right.

          • 3FingersBrown says:
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            @Grey, Yeah it’s pretty elementary but it’s surprisingly easy to lose track when you’re involved in an especially long auction draft with large rosters – and drinking heavily.

            Another thing that I’ve found effective: As I get towards the end, I like to leave $2 for each of my last few roster spots. This way I can gank the guy trying to get the player I like for $1.

            Me: “$1 Fowler? oh contrar – $2!”
            Other guy: “Damn, I’m broke! Screw you guy with tux and top hat.”
            Me: Twists mustache and cackles like a madman

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              @3FingersBrown, Yeah, totally… Guys that only have one dollar per spot are pretty screwed, that goes back to have more money.

  23. ben says:
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    hey grey, i’m deciding between keeping a $20 mike stanton, a $16 cole hamels, and a $2 jordan zimmermann. jzimm and hamels seem to be the better values, but it looks like there are a plethora of solid pitchers and not too many people with a chance at 40+ hr. Also, we get to keep keepers for 3 years (this being the first), and jzimm and stanton will probably pay off more in the long run. Not to mention that i love stanton as much as you do – possibly to the point of irrationality – and would be kinda pissed if he hit 50 hr on someone else’s team…

    • Grey

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      @ben, Stanton, Zimmermann…

      • ben says:
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        @Grey, but i have my other 2 set (des jennings + kinsler), so i can only choose one…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @ben, Those were in order…

          • ben says:
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            @Grey, haha got that after i wrote that post. sorry about that – thanks

  24. Steve says:
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    Attention all you late-round-good-value-nice-ratios chasers. Looks like Roy Oswalt may not sign until midseason.

  25. Awesomus Maximus

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    So you have PEDS and iOS. You’re just a cool acronym making machine. Meanwhile, I’ve got a Grey’s Pitcher Pairings Web Tool… find an acronym in there.

    So do you want this thing now and then you’ll update it (when shizz like Oswalt goes down)? Do you want it now, and then you’ll notify me of any changes to your rankings/auction value, I’ll update it and send you the new files? Let me know.

    How about that Elijah Dukes? Has major league talent ever been squandered so swiftly and thoroughly? Need to get that doode on MTV’s The Challenge to spice things up!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus, I changed the rankings. Take followups to the newest post to discuss.

    • Steve says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus, Change it to Albright’s Pitcher Pairing Listing Examination System and you might have something…

  26. Mike says:
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    Grey: 12 team 5×5 roto league, std set up with 5OF, CI, MI etc. If you could choose your draft slot (like I can!) except picks 1&5, where would you go?

    I’m considering either 4 or 6. 4 gets me one of M-Cab,Pujols, Kemp or Votto; 6 adds Bats & Tulo to that list.

    Not quite sure what either would get me Rd 2/3…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike, 4 works… Take followups to the newest post.

  27. Grey

    Grey says:
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    ****THERE’S A NEW POST****

  28. jacks says:
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    Hey Grey: Keeper quandries. 12 max keepers but will have no more than 11 no matter what I do. $300 budget. Do I keep Zorilla for $19, of drop him cuz I can get Kipnis or Ultley for around $15 or under? I like Zo’s OF/2b eligibility, but is he too much at $19? And I have Marcum at $13 … I can still afford Anibal and Beachy at their likely $15 prices, but if I drop Meatball I can probably pick up Leubke or Moore for around $15 instead. No top 20 pitchers are gonna be available. I have Hamels and Hanson as definite keepers.

    • jacks says:
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      to extrapolate a little more … I could have a MI of Tulo, Zorilla and someone like Altuve or Kelly J. OR I could have a MI of Tulo, Altuve, Utley (or Kipnis) and save 5 bucks or so for another position.

  29. FANTHEAD says:
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    A+

    One of Grey’s funniest. Hell, there might’ve even been some good baseball advice in it–was too absorbed in laughing to notice.

    • Grey

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      @FANTHEAD, Thanks!

  30. RotoBully says:
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    One thing I like to do is throw the fifth or sixth best player out in a certain position early in the auction and then try to get him if that position is deep with good players. For example in an AL only auction I might throw out Konerko or Texeira and then try to get him cheap because everyone might be saving their money for Miggy, Pujols, or A. Gon. That is of course if these players are still in the pool. I find that i get good value this way so I can spend the big bucks on someone in a position that is scarce like Cano or Longoria. ITS ALL ABOUT POSITION SCARCITY!!!!!

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