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You know who I feel bad for?  The eight other Tigers that have to sit on the other side of the bench now to balance out Miggy so the bench-seesaw doesn’t topple.  Prince Fielder was sent to the Rangers for a Player to be Named Later.  The later was about thirty seconds when the Rangers said they would send Ian Kinsler.  What?  Someone had to offer a guy first.  Okay, maybe it was Ian Kinsler that was sent for a Player to be Named Later and that later was ten seconds.  There’s no way the Rangers and Tigers simultaneously said Prince Fielder and Ian Kinsler.  I just don’t see how that could’ve happened.  Only room for one Semien in the AL Central, I suppose.  See, Prince Fielder’s middle name is Semien and there’s a Marcus Semien…is this getting better as I explain it?  Don’t worry, I still have in my back pocket when Marcus Semien hits a game-winning home run — Semien, the shot sprayed ’round the world.  Penthouse Letters will enjoy that.  So, Prince Fielder in Texas just changes everything.  They need to change the size of the door frames, they need to start making tofu cows… It’s gonna be a whole rigamarole!  Obviously, this is a boon for his value.  Last year, Comerica — or as people in Detroit call it, “The One Building That Isn’t Abandoned” — played better for homers and runs than Arlington, but that has more to do with the two clubs that were on the field.  Put the Tigers lineup last year in Arlington and Arlington would’ve looked like it was a dome filled with helium.  Historically, Arlington is great for a power hitter and once the summer hits, balls fly out.  After Fielder alternated between great and solid seasons for his whole career, last year was supposed to be a great year, but it was merely a solid one, buoyed by counting stats.  He shouldn’t have much problem bouncing back in 2014.  He’ll still only be 30 years old and I don’t see him taking an extreme dive until around 32, if he can stay healthy.  For 2014, I’ll give him the line of 89/33/108/.282/1.  Definitely locks him into the top rounds and moves Miguel Cabrera back to first base, where he can hopefully stay healthy and drunk.  More healthy than drunk, but who am I to judge?  Nick Castellanos could now see a shot at 3rd base, but I don’t think the Tigers are done yet.  Muahahahahaha…. Hmm, that evil laugh wasn’t totally necessary.  Anyway, here’s some more offseason moves and what they mean for 2014 fantasy baseball:

Ian Kinsler – Oh, yeah.  The player to be named later.  (I’m sorry, they didn’t say the names simultaneously.  I don’t believe that.)  Hopefully, Kinsler isn’t the first man down as the seven pile on top to balance the bench because Ian’s a bit fra-gee-lay.  Kinsler looked like he got old quickly last year (he is 31 already).  His power was down to a career low of 13 homers and his speed was at 15 steals, which only beats his career low in his rookie year when he was still learning how to walk.  (Not literally; he didn’t enter the league as an infant.  He was learning to take pitches.)  Unless he bumps into a syringe left behind by Jhonny Peralta, players don’t usually get better in their thirties.  They also tend to lose a bit of value when they go from a hitters’ park to a neutral one.  I don’t mean they refuse to paint Comerica pink and force it to play sports that cater to men and women.  That’s gender neutral.  For 2014, I’ll give Kinsler a line of 103/16/74/.269/17.  I don’t see him falling off the map quite that dramatically because counting stats and his lineup will bolster him.

Josh Johnson – To the Padres.  What’s that sound I hear?  Grey getting excited about Josh Johnson again?  Or is it Grey using third person?  Maybe both!  Johnson wasn’t bad in Toronto.   He was egregious!  See what I did there?  Actually, he was only bad when looking at ERA.  For xFIP he was at 3.58 and K-rate he had 9.18.  Both are solid numbers.  Now Petco can take those pretty numbers out for a ride and remove all the belch like a gentle antacid.  For 2014, I’ll give him the line of 9-12/3.74/1.29/184.  Assuming good health, and all.

David Murphy – Agreed to a two-year deal with the Indians.  Somewhere, Ryan Raburn watched a coin flip in the air and, when it landed, he heard, “Sorry, man, that means you’re platooning with David Murphy.”  Hopefully, the coin flipper had the decency to use a Buffalo nickel for an Indians’ field occupancy.

Tim Hudson – Signed with the Giants.  You know what Brian Sabean’s favorite holiday is?  Veterans Day.

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  1. anoraxx says:
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    No Profar blurb? Shame.

    • chunk says:
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      @anoraxx: @Grey: double check your tigers/rangers in the first two lines…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @anoraxx: Profar could still get moved himself or someone else could come in…

  2. bossmanjunior says:
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    “Siemens really busted that nut into the seats!”

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Kinsler’s SB take a hit. Considering low little the Tigers run (Austin Jackson!) and all.

    • bossmanjunior says:
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      @bossmanjunior:

      When they do random drug testing, he’ll be the only one that has to give a Siemen sample.

      Ok im done.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Ha! Yeah, maybe with Leyland out SBs will move…

  3. Abe Vigoda says:
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    Not the usual funny, wittiness I’ve come to expect. Marriage has not been kind to you Grey.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Abe Vigoda: Probably because she now has final say

      • Prez says:
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        @Grey: its november man, hes saving it up… Do you bust as soon as you put it in? I think not..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Depends what we’re busting, but I’m gonna go with no with the possibility for changing my answer…

          • SteveNZ says:
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            @Prez: @Grey: I regret ever having looked at this thread. Can’t unsee.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It’s rainbows and tulips in one comment thread and Prezzi handling things in other threads…

              • Prez says:
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                @Grey: you never know what youre gonna get with me!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  A real wild card!

  4. Fungazi says:
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    Doesn’t the big guy have to pass a physical still? I saw that and thought the trade was a 50/50 chance of going through. Or is the physical about not being hurt more than if you can touch your toes or do 5 jumping jacks?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Fungazi: Don’t think when you trade for Fielder you expect much in the physical… Maybe pat his head and rub his belly at the same time…

  5. Count de Monetball says:
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    Wow, what a shock. It’s funny, I was totally lost reading this at first as I had not heard about the trade yet. I am excited to see what Profar will be able to do in ’14 now that a position is opened up. I’m not sure who won this deal, but I think the Rangers will look a lot better this coming year..

    • George says:
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      @Count de Monetball: I know who won this deal. I did!

      My salary cap team (16-team league) has both Fielder hitting in Texas and Profar starting at the 2B/If slot.

      Starting Lineup

      Segura – SS
      AJax/Avisail Garcia – CF
      Braun – LF
      Fielder – 1B
      Myers (ROY) – RF/CF
      J. Hamilton/A. Garcia – OF
      C. Johnson – 3B
      Profar/Middlebrooks – IF
      Ramos – C
      Altuve/Profar – 2B

      Bench: Billy Hamilton, Oscar Taveras, Francisco Lindor, Middlebrooks, A. Garcia

      SP – Waino, Scherzer, Fernandez (ROY), Cole, Teheran, S. Gray, Taillon

      We are ready to rock and roll. When is the season started!

  6. s_t_w says:
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    Guess we’ll find out now how effective last season’s renovations were. Supposedly, they moved some walls behind home plate to reduce the summer wind tunnel effect to right cnetre and last year’s figs seemed to support the idea that they were successful. The big left handed bat of Fielder will be a better test.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @s_t_w: Yeah, I hear ya

  7. theearly90s says:
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    Can we give the abandoned building jokes a rest? Fielder isn’t a vegetarian either. On behalf of everyone in Detroit, we are glad to get the weight of Fielder off of our shoulders. I’m looking forward to watching Tigers’ pitching shut Prince down in the posteseason. He refuses to hit the opposite way and the shift is unfuckwithable.

    • P Swayz on a Horse says:
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      @theearly90s: Awe… are you still mourning Perez’s Abuelita?

    • JoeC says:
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      @theearly90s: If you’re gonna be sensitive to criticism of the city you live in, you might want to relocate from Detroit. Because that city’s a complete failure. Looks like a bombed-out World War II city.

      Seriously, the jokes aren’t gonna stop until that city gets its act together and I’d say the chances of that happening any time soon are somewhere close to nil.

  8. SteveV says:
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    From ESPN’s AJ Mass, “Plus, having Prince Fielder in the dugout might make Texas an even more appealing landing spot for Cano. After all, when it came time to pick teammates for this past season’s Home Run Derby, Fielder was Cano’s first choice. If there were any ill will between the two, that would not have been the case.”

    What a Dumb MassHold!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SteveV says:
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      *MassHole!!

  9. fitz says:
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    I think I’m going to stay away from both Kinsler and Fielder this year. Fielder’s playoff numbers didn’t inspire any confidence and I know someone will take the chance on him early now that he’s playing in Arlington.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @fitz: I wouldn’t judge a player by the playoffs

      • JoeC says:
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        @Grey: Yeah. This makes me actually reconsider drafting Prince now. After owning him last year, I was pretty much done with him (25 home runs?!!). But now, in Arlington, with more protection for him, this looks like a “buy” signal on the Rotund One.

        I don’t really understand this trade from Detroit’s perspective. Kinsler does not seem like equal value for Fielder. I get they want to move Miggy to first to preserve him from injuries and improve their defense at the hot corner, but I think you have to get more for a talent like Prince than just Kinsler, who as you said is seemingly on the downside of his career.

  10. gobiggreen says:
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    News is Texas has their eye on bringing up someone from within to fill the Kinsler void. Is that expected to be Roughned Odor? Caaauuuuse the Rough Odor jokes if he comes up and stinks the join up frankly are almost too easy to make. But seriously, his minor league numbers look good.

    • @gobiggreen:

      Odor is promising, no doubt. But, uh, Jurickson Profar is clearly the mysterious player “from within” who will first be given the chance to replace Kinsler. He is even more promising than the promising Odor.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @gobiggreen: Yeah, Profar would be first, but it’s still early, not clear who will play 2nd yet…

      • Bob c says:
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        @Grey:

        Grey, u know something we dont? Seems pretty clear Profar is the guy who will play second and I don’t understand why u think they would move him….care to explain?

        Happy Thanksgiving

        Bob

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Cause they might get someone to give them pitching for him… Happy holidays!

  11. Wake Up says:
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    Bat Beltre 3rd, Fielder 4th…

    Beltre=MVP

    • SteveV says:
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      no

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: Definitely won’t hurt him to have the big man around…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: yeah, not completely serious but…see Braun, Miggy…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah…Gotcha…

        • Big Magoo

          Big Magoo says:
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          @Wake Up: Beltre is awesome, but he also turns 35 in April…

          • JoeC says:
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            @Big Magoo: Apparently, he’s the new David Ortiz. I keep thinking he’ll fall off a cliff, but every year he just keeps putting up the numbers.

  12. Project Merkin says:
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    Greybones, long time no talk! Did you miss your favorite pubic wig wearing commenter? Anywho, our favorite Jewish rapper,. Lil Dicky, started a kickstarter account to try and raise $70k for his album and touring…in an effort to NOT join a record label. Pretty genius idea if you ax me.. He started it yesterday and has already raised $35k. Kid is taking over.

    Scarier than Magic Johnson near mosquitoes.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Project Merkin: What’s up, Merkin? You still have that best Wikipedia picture… Love Dicky, be awesome to see him in concert, never even thought about looking for him, bet he’s probably played by me recently…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: I think the host’s reaction is a bit larger than I would’ve went, but funny…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: It is a great joke! Merk reminded me of it above…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Wait, were you the host there?

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: Huh?

  13. George says:
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    This is a very good deal for both the Rangers and for my salary cap fantasy team.

    My salary cap team (16-team league) has both Fielder hitting in Texas and Profar starting at the 2B/If slot.

    Starting Lineup

    Segura – SS
    AJax/Avisail Garcia – CF
    Braun – LF
    Fielder – 1B
    Myers (ROY) – RF/CF
    J. Hamilton/A. Garcia – OF
    C. Johnson – 3B
    Profar/Middlebrooks – IF
    Ramos – C
    Altuve/Profar – 2B

    Bench: Billy Hamilton, Oscar Taveras, Francisco Lindor, Middlebrooks, A. Garcia

    SP – Waino, Scherzer, Fernandez (ROY), Cole, Teheran, S. Gray, Taillon

    We are ready to rock and roll. When is the season starting?

    LOL

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @George: Yeah, saw above…Nice…

  14. FMFBL says:
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    Good stuff as usual.
    Keeper question for you. If you were starting a league tomorrow, where would you take Machado, knowing he’s still a few years away from being elite?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @FMFBL: He’s not a few years away… He’s a few months away if he’s healthy… I’d wait until as late as possible into March now that he’s hurt himself…

    • P Swayz on a Horse says:
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      @FMFBL: Did you watch any baseball last year? Seriously.

  15. Big Magoo

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    Detroit gets: a 2B upgrade, a defensive upgrade (Miggy = Fielder at 1B, almost anyone > Miggy at 3B), and payroll flexibility to extend Scherzer.

    Texas gets: a 1B upgrade / power upgrade / another LH bat (filling three needs simultaneously) while opening up a spot for Profar to start.

    Like you said above, I don’t think that Detroit is finished yet, and given Fielder’s postseason struggles and signs of early decline (combined with the massive amount of years and $$ remaining on his contract), I like this deal for them. It depends what they do to replace his offense though.

    Texas has money to spare due to their $3 billion tv deal which kicks in in 2015, so they can take on the remaining years and money (not to mention the $30 million that Detroit will be sending over) on the Fielder deal without a problem. They’re willing to overpay later for a much needed upgrade now.

    Looks like a good deal for both sides.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big Magoo: Yup, agreed… Long term it’s better for the Tigers, short term it’s better for the Rangers…

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Big Magoo: yeah, that $30m is going directly to getting another player most likely…

  16. George says:
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    The pecking order of the Rangers needs is to determine whether or not they re-sign Nelson Cruz and addressing their starting pitching since they are losing Garza.

    I highly doubt that they are trading Profar unless a team like the Cardinals are willing to trade one of their top flight arms for someone like Andrus or Profar. Either way – I think that all signs point to Profar starting on a major league roster come April 2014 as long as he shows that he is ready to hit major league pitching, which will happen and it is just a matter of when.

    And for those that doubt Profar being able to hit major league hitting – keep in mind that a 23-year-old rookie hit under .200 in his first 100 at-bats and after a winter of discussion of if this guy could hit major league pitching because he looked so overmatched, that this guy eventually became a AL MVP. His name is Dustin Pedroia.

    Profar has seen more at-bats at an earlier age and is twice the prospect that Pedroia was when he left Arizona State University.

    Unless the Rangers get a true ace prospect , then I highly doubt that Profar is going anywhere because of his cost control.

    They have other pieces that could be dealt like the guy that Fielder is about to replace.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It doesn’t make logical sense for Profar to be traded, but the Cardinals want him and have the young arms to trade… Shelby Miller for Profar wouldn’t be bad from either side…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          That’s why I said Miller because I could see the Cards trading him… Wacha shouldn’t/probably won’t be traded…

  17. Kinsler projections look pretty good except 103 runs is a long shot – assumes he plays 140+ games AND hits before Miggy in that lineup. Not sure what Detroit is thinking lineup-wise but they could use a left-handed hitter. I see A-Jax, Torii, and Kinsler as the best current options to hit in the first two lineup slots with Miggy hitting 3rd. If one was a lefty, i’d put them 2nd.

    I’ll put the over/under on Kinsler’s Runs at 83.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Are you asking me to screenshot this for roundups in 2014?

      • Yeah, go ahead. Only 7 guys last year reached 103 runs and the LOWEST OBP in the bunch was .370 (which Kinsler hasn’t reached in 3 years)

        I was right on Segura. He had to have the absolute best season possible just to reach your projection of 75 runs. He surpassed every single other projection you made for him except Runs.

        Constructive criticism: You sometimes project Runs like the bartenders poured alcohol at your rehearsal dinner (for those not there, the drinks were soooo strong…my Jack and Coke was somehow higher proof than Jack Daniels).

        • Grey

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          Jackson missed a ton of games last year or he would’ve reached 103 and had his usual bleh OBP, so .370 OBP is cherrypicking… If anyone’s getting to 103 runs, it’s a guy in front of Miggy… Ha on the rehearsal dinner… Every drink was a splash of mixer… It wasn’t a set amount on the open bar, so more they poured, the more the bill was…

          • A-Jax is likely to stay at leadoff (had .377 OBP in 2012). Hunter hit 2nd (Kinsler’s likelier spot if he hits top 2) and had 84 runs over a full season and a .330 OBP.

            I think A-Jax at #1, Miggy at #3, V-Mart at #4, with Kinsler and Torii the most likely #2 options. Whomever hits 5th will be starved for Runs with Iglesias, whomever in LF, whomever at 3B, whomever at C doesn’t sound very promising

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, if Kinsler is down at the five hole than it hurts his runs, definitely… I’m guessing Hunter moves to five and Kinsler goes in the two hole… Kinsler hasn’t batted as low as fifth since 2010…Hunter batted below 5th as recently as last year…

              • Yup, that’d be my bet too as Hunter ‘feels’ more like an RBI guy.

                Even with the best case for Kinsler (140ish games, .340 OBP), I think he’s an 80-85 run projection. His chance at 100 is about the same as getting 60.

                • Big Magoo

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                  @Grey: @Rudy Gamble: I think that Detroit makes another big move this offseason (Choo to hit leadoff, Cruz to hit 5th, another trade). If they keep the roster as-is, I don’t see them moving Hunter out of the two hole. He’s been productive in that spot, and does everything that managers love from that position (good contact rate, goes the other way, moves runners over, etc.). I can see Kinsler leading off, and A-Jax moving down to 6th. That way, his (A-Jax’s) high K-rate wouldn’t be as big of an issue and they could give him the green light on the basepaths without fear of him running into outs in front of the big boys.

                  • Grey

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                    If it’s between Hunter and Kinsler for two hole and five hole, I don’t see how Hunter isn’t moved to five and Kinsler isn’t put in the two hole, but I guess anything can happen…

                    • Big Magoo

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                      @Grey: That’s basically my argument, that their #5 hitter isn’t currently on the roster (unless they sign Choo – then the other guys will trickle down). Kinsler, Hunter, Miggy, VMart, TBD, A-Jax – I think 1-6 will look something like that. Beltran, Granderson, or Cruz could work short-term in LF and hitting 5th. I can’t see them starting Dirks everyday (or even in a platoon).

                    • Certainly seems possible – though I think A-Jax will stay as the #1 hitter. But my larger point is that their R/RBI projections should take into account the uncertainly of their batting order position. Though I’ve generally found that as long as a guy is hitting in the top 6, R+RBI is typically about equal (trading Runs for RBIs going from 1/2 to 5/6). Hitting 3rd/4th is the best.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Don’t think they get any of those ‘big’ names… But, yup, they might and it would change it all around…

                    • Big Magoo

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                      @Grey: If they could sign any of those guys (Beltran, Cruz, Granderson) for around 2 years / $30 million, they’d be foolish not to. Do you know how many guys on the current roster have hit 20+ homers in either of the last two seasons? None. Miggy is going to get the Bonds treatment if they don’t add another power bat.

                    • Grey

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                      Sure, but they’re the not only team looking to overpay for bats… Mets will give one of those old guys at least $35 million…

                    • Big Magoo

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                      @Grey: Probably, but a short-term overpay would actually make sense for the Tigers (as opposed to a team like the Mets). They have a 2-3 year championship window, so pinching pennies wouldn’t make any sense in their situation. I don’t think they were slashing payroll with the Fielder deal, just looking to reallocate funds (Beltran, Cruz, or Granderson in the short-term; extend Scherzer and Cabrera long-term).

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, guess we’ll see…

                    • steve b says:
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                      @Grey: they are not done yet.
                      Their will be a new LF and closer.
                      Castellanos will be tried at 3b but I’m not sold on him yet despite all the hype .No power and slow

                    • Grey

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                      Agreed on both counts

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, I hear ya… His ability to stay healthy hasn’t always been the best either…

              • J-FOH

                J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: tell me more about this open bar?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Drinks were alcoholic uncle trying to get 20-year-old girls drunk stiff… I’m not the best barometer, but I was drunk after 1 1/2 drinks…

                  • J-FOH

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                    @Grey: I thought i wanted to go to the wedding to complete my stalking game, BTW, nice drapes, but now that I know i missed an open bar and twenty year olds I’m crying on the inside…and outside.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      20-year-olds not so much… Times that by three… The blue hairs were out!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: with an open bar they might as well be 20 year olds to me

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha! I like the way you think…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: come drink with me and you will have a new found respect for things I can get away with.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Hehe

  18. SteveNZ says:
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    Royals’ big news is a 4-year deal with… Jason Vargas.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha…Royals making a splash!

      • Wake Up says:
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        @SteveNZ: @Grey: Following this through…

        Fielder -120
        Moreland -98

        Kinsler – 105
        Infante -113

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not following the follow through, what are these numbers?

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: oops wrong place to reply…talking about the OPS+ article…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah… Gotcha… Yup…

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: according to OPS+ alone…big win for the Rangers…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup, in the short term, definitely a win for the Rangers…

              • SteveNZ says:
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                @Grey: I don’t necessarily subscribe to the theory that Prince is done, but it wouldn’t be a total surprise in 18 months time for the Rangers to be thinking “hmmmm, we could probably have got that production a bit cheaper… “

                • Grey

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                  Oh for sure… Fielder doesn’t look like a guy that will play well into his thirties…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Good stuff on what Beane said, but Verducci’s solutions are iffy at best…

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, my eyes glazed over after about 30 seconds after the first few paragraphs.

        Interesting to see, though, just how bad ‘the worst’ was at certain positions.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup, surprised to see the Marlins only listed twice…

  19. Reno 911 says:
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    Hola Grey

    I have Alex Rios at a salary that already made him a borderline keeper, assuming an entire year in Texas. Do you think having Fielder in the lineup moves Rios up a few slots in your OF rankings?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Won’t change Rios’s ranking… He was already solid…

  20. gareth says:
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    All I’m hearing about is the Prince fielder – ian kinsler trade. zzzzzzzzzzz.

    Lest we forget Their division rivals acquired David Murphy and Jason Vargas in huge blockbuster franchise changing deals.

    Whoever said there was financial disparity in baseball? Hogwash!

    • Grey

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      Haha

  21. gareth says:
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    Its going to be a competitive YOY for the Royals in 2014 as it will be a tight award race between Vargas and Guthrie.

    YOY – Yawnstipator of the year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They’re not done yet…

  22. gareth says:
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    I’m already envisioning a “texas toast” headline for prince fielder in the final years of his contract in Arlington.
    Saying that, is his left handed power something to covet in drafts for 2014? First base appears to be full of uncertainty. Will he be underrated / overrated?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Just rated…

  23. Count de Monetball says:
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    Ha! I just noticed my wife’s cousin’s facebook status is and I quote “Everything is bigger in Texas, even their first basement” and that’s him quoting you!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  24. steve b says:
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    something to ponder about fielder and his belly flop slides
    last three years
    HR RBI OBP SLG OPS
    38 120 415 566 961
    30 108 412 528 940
    25 106 362 457 819

    you can draw your own conclusions but it looks to me unless he quits eating this slide doesn’t look good

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, but the difference between 25 homers and 30 homers isn’t that big for a guy of his size and power… If he were 35 years old, I’d agree more readily…

      • steve b says:
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        @Grey:still with the other numbers on the downward slide .He hit less fly balls too .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, that is true but Arlington can give 30 homers to a guy two thirds that of Prince…

  25. TX_Chris says:
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    Grey, – just a heads up.
    During one game last year, Tom Grieve (the announcer for the Rangers/former GM) began talking about the new ‘batter’s eye addition’ in center field. He said management wanted to reduce the jet stream in the ballpark and after doing some wind modeling, found constructing this facility would reduce the speed at which the air traveled through the field of play. He said it was deliberately constructed to try to cut down on the massive amounts of homers hit here.
    It could be one of the reasons a lot of the smaller guy’s homer #’s were down this year for the Rangers. Kind of BS, cause it wataching the bombs was about one of the few reasons to even go sit in the heat to watch a game.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I’ve heard that before… Could be, but one season isn’t a big enough sample size and I think Prince can hit homers in any stadium…

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