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Some of you will be drafting your fantasy baseball teams over at ESPN and that’s cool.  I don’t mind their drafting and league setups.  Plus, they’re free.  If you don’t like your team, do like 98% of the other people at ESPN and abandon your team in May.  But when you’re drafting at ESPN, you’re confronted by their rankings.  It’s important to know what they’re saying, so you can exploit the rankings for your greater good.  I’m going off my top 100 for 2010 fantasy baseball and top 300.  So here’s some random turd nuggets from the ESPN 2010 fantasy baseball rankings:

Carl Crawford – 8 at ESPN, 19 here.  Before Miggy Cabrera, Tex, Longoria, Howard… Buh-but, Grey, isn’t 1st base deep? Yeah, and steals from an outfielder are shallow?  Oh-kay.  Because I have a photographic memory and no actual evidence to prove this, you’re gonna have to take my word for it.  Last year, Crawford was ranked somewhere in the 40s by ESPN.  Then he has a career year and he’s ranked 8th.  ESPN’s three year averages to figure out projections are done by multiplying the last year by three.

Ichiro Suzuki – 23 at ESPN, 43 here.  Probably the worst value player that is always overrated.  You need a .277 average to be competitive.  Ichiro best attribute is he can turn your average up to 11; it’s pointless.

Jose Reyes – 40 at ESPN, 18 here.  See my comment about Crawford for why they have Reyes this low.

Curtis Granderson – 55 at ESPN, 34 here.  Clara Bell wrote an interesting piece the other day about how Grandy could hit 35 homers and steal 20 bases but he’s NOT a top fifty draft option.  And, by interesting, I mean you really can’t make this shizz up.  You have to be an ESPN Hindsighter to read the whole thing, so I’ll Cliff Note it for you.  Karabell argues that Grandy is such a negative on average that he’lll cost your team dearly for those 35 homers and 20 steals.  As I’ve mentioned previously, you could have found 25 outfielders who contributed 20 steals, but only ten outfielders, who retain outfield eligibility for 2010, that had 30 homers.  Grandy fell in both categories.  Only three other outfielders did.  Also, nowhere does he mention that Granderson was about fifty points off his career BABIP and should hit closer to .275.  I don’t expect Karabell to know anything about BABIP, except Cockcroft, another ESPN Hindsighter, just wrote an article about how Granderson was unlucky with BABIP.  Maybe Karabell was too busy with a Michael Bolton from Office Space Lookalike Contest to read it.

Brandon Webb – 81 at ESPN, 175 here.  ESPN has Webb ahead of Cain, Ubaldo, Hamels, Wandy and Kershaw… As for why they ranked Webb this high, I think there’s a good chance they just totally forgot about last year.  Or maybe when they were ranking Webb, Berry farted and everyone laughed, causing them to skip over Webb’s name.

Howie Kendrick – 105 at ESPN, 200 here, about 100 picks before I have him.  Kendrick’s a good average bet that hasn’t put together one full year at the major league level.  No, thanks.

Todd Helton – 154 at ESPN, 261 here.  According to Point Shares, Helton will earn -3.38 Points.  He comes in with a -1.5 Points for homers and -1.2 for RBIs.  Nice!

Ian Stewart – 199 at ESPN, 100 here.  I’m totally waiting for them to write the Ian Stewart sleeper post, quoting their own facacta rankings.  Guys, I look like Michael Bolton, and I think Stewart’s great value ranked at 199! Actually, now that I think about it, the best thing you can do with ESPN’s rankings is send all of your leaguemates there to study them.

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  1. ChiTownAlex says:
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    Razzball = the only thing that gets me through the offseason.. correction Razzball and curling.

    I’ve been thinking long and hard(that’s what she said) about this and can not figure out what to do….
    here’s the problem, i’m in a keeper league and we can only keep 4 players… problem i have 5, Miggy, Kinsler, Wright, Kemp and Justin Upton… now i’m trying to make a trade for Puljos with Miggy and Kinsler as my bait. 3rd base is weak and Kemp/Upton being so young. Hopefully the trade happens but if not what 4 should i keep?

  2. Danny J says:
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    What’s really mind-blowing is that these people actually get paid to come up with that trash.

  3. GopherDay says:
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    Is there going to be a Yahoo one? They have some really messed up rankings too! Mornaue, Reyes, Price, even Reynolds is falling to the 5th round…is he value there?

  4. MarkM says:
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    @GopherDay – I don’t think Price belongs on that list of value in the 5th round. I’m be pumped to pull Reyes in the 5th though for sure.

  5. Josh says:
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    the craziest guy in the Yahoo rankings has to be Carlos Quentin. he is WAAAAAY down there at #164 with them. I haven’t done a single mock over there yet where I didn’t get him, and in some cases I probably went a round or two earlier than I needed to.

  6. Mikey boy324 says:
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    Grey Ive been doin my mocks at espn and I’ve been getting Stewart in like 18-20 rounds what round would you draft him just to be sure you get him without reaching?

  7. great stuff. love to see the same sort of thing for cbs…

  8. Mike says:
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    SI.com rankings are a joke. They have Lester at #22, Greinke ahead of Lincecum, and Derek Lee and Jason Bartlett ahead of Joey Votto. Bartlett is ranked #46. And they have Zimmerman ranked #71! Wow!

    This article just shows how each individual website’s rankings affect where people are drafting players. While the rest of my league just looks at the 10 or so guys up next on the rank list, I’ll be searching the list top to bottom to find my targeted guys and deciding when is the best time to take them.

  9. Dave says:
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    Grey, why the ESPN specific hate (rankings/mock)? I’m sensing a grudge.

    Those rankings are pretty crap, but no worse than Fun-Bags’ over at Yahoo!. The CBS ones as mentioned are unanimously the worst, but that’s like picking on a fat kid in dodge ball.

  10. GopherDay says:
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    @MarkM: I didn’t mean to word it like that…Reyes usually goes at the end of the 3rd to beginning of the 4th, I’ve grabbed Mornaue really late. I wouldn’t draft Reynolds, but is he too good to pass up in the third round???

    As for Price, I usually just take him in the 14th or 15th round. He’s ranked like 200 and somthing…crazy.

  11. Rabbit says:
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    Excellent post; really useful stuff. Like commenters, would love to see a similar post for other ranking outlets like Yahoo and CBS–maybe even one for the rankings at Rotoworld or Rotowire?

    My biggest concern is that Razzball is becoming too popular, and my leaguemates will find this site, undermining my advantage. I may have to pull a Ben Linus and turn the big Honeycomb wheel in the basement to move this website to a different location in time. If we jump back to the 70s we will rule fantasy baseball!

  12. Ian says:
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    I think ESPN writers have fallen in love with their “player rater”. Instead of thinking about players they just revert to the ol’ player rater which favors SBs and a high BA.

  13. GopherDay says:
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    @GopherDay: Gah! Typo! I meant 5th round for reynolds.

  14. Eddy says:
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    @Rabbit:
    Ha! Lovin’ the Lost reference.

    Great stuff Grey, as always. I wish I could love this post more, but unfortunately I’m only going to use ESPN for the RCL, and well, there’s no foolin’ you guys :(

    I can only hope one of you sneezes and clicks the wrong player when it’s your turn to pick!

  15. SpikeOwen says:
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    Do rankings actually matter…maybe if you do a list draft, but they aren’t really relevant. Haren was ranked #1 in our league last year so I took advantage and traded Haren/McLouth for Howard/Werth. So I guess my point is, rankings matter for people who overvalue them or are just plain ignorant.

    My league has three Razzball followers so it gets interesting.

  16. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Ian: yeah its like these projections from just about any and every expert for the 2010 season,they simply take an average of the players last 3 or 4 years or they nearly duplicate his last years numbers,grey is one of if not the only one i know of to have the balls(or stash)to make real projections,thats why we keep coming back for more,And you thought it was the tacos

  17. Wizo says:
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    yahoo has Liriano ranked at 942 – what a steal!

  18. Atherton32 says:
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    So is there anyone else out there that does have decent ratings? Grey ranks the top 300. I am in a 14 team league and we have 25 rounds, do the math and that is 350 players. Where could I go to find deeper rankings for those late rounds?

  19. Howie says:
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    @Grey: I got the Razzball football app for iPhone/iPod Touch recently. Do you have something in the works for baseball?

    Thanks,

    Howie

  20. sean says:
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    Woke up to the equivalent of a fantasy baseball sex dream this morning: with the Yankees’ propensity to go lefty-righty in the lineup, there’s a decent possibility that Granderson could lead off against RHP.

    Jeter’s got a decade’s worth of experience hitting in the second spot (5800 career ABs), and I just don’t think that Nick Johnson is going to be healthy enough to slot in as the every day #2.

    For my money, Grandy’s a better leadoff hitter than Swisher or Johnson is a two-hole guy.

  21. Jeff says:
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    Which would you rather have $40 Utley and $21 Zimmerman or $40 Wright, $20 Votto, $11 Stewart?

    I have Utley and Zimmerman and was offered the other side. I already have Cabrera( $40) and Morales ($11)1B and would have to drop a $13 Span to accept the trade. So what do you think?

  22. JaHerer22 says:
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    Keeper Advice:
    Which ONE guy would you not keep? (12 teams, 8 keepers)

    J. Votto
    A. Hill
    B.J. Upton
    J. Upton
    C. Granderson
    J. Bay
    Y. Gallaurdo
    J. Vazquez
    J. Beckett

    I’ve been trying to move Bay and Beckett for a 3B or SS but no one seems interested so far.

  23. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Jeff: id stay pat and buy a $10 lopez

  24. Frank Rizzo says:
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    There’s more.

    ESPN has Morneau at 51, Razzball has him at 22.
    Cole Hamels 97 vs. 71 on Razzball.
    Ryan Dempster is 181 vs. 131 on Razzball.

    I pretty much end up with Morneau, Hamels, and Dempster in every mock. You can find plenty of value on ESPN if you agree with Grey’s rankings.

  25. HalLeeday34 says:
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    Love this post and if you did a yahoo one I’d be even more set. Crawford at 8 is unbelievable. Passing on those big bats for Juan Pierre with minimal pop is crazy. Love granderson and hope he slides to me in the 4th.
    Say I end up with a Miggy, Tex or Longoria in a 12 team league at pick 11. Would you feel better with Holliday, Sizemore or Reyes comIng back at 14. Huge dilemma for me and I don’t really feel solid about anybody at 14. Crawford I want no part of and Halladay and Mauer are already kept by other teams. Somebody throw some knowledge my way please

  26. Matt Tweeters says:
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    these ESPN rankings suck but they all do really.

    i’d really like to see someone load an automated draft 5×5 draft based on yahoo, epsn, mdc, cbs, etc etc ADP rankings. each fantasy baseball product gets a team. wonder who would win.. i guess you’d have to run a couple thousand seasons or do it in a simulator to get actionable learnings.

    actually now that i think about it Bloomberg’s “propietary” B-Rank has to be most shitted up of all of em.

  27. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Terry Grant: I didn’t know SI had fantasy.

    @ChiTownAlex: Good problem to have, I guess. I’d probably throw back Wright.

    @Danny J: Ha!

    @GopherDay: Yahoo’s coming next week.

    @Josh: Yeah, saw that.

    @Mikey boy324: Sounds like the 18th round.

    @pubscout: Don’t think CBS is gonna happen. Their rankings are way too all over the place.

    @Dave: Nah, no grudge. Yahoo’s are coming next week. CBS are too much of a joke to even bother.

    @Rabbit: Ha, that’s one of my favorite comments in a while.

    @Ian: I agree. I was going to go into that player rater, but didn’t want to bother.

    @Wizo: Be a nice sleeper in that 75 team league you’re in.

    @Atherton32: Point Shares goes to about 500 or so.

    @Howie: Coming soon…

    @sean: Agreed

    @Jeff: Stay pat.

    @JaHerer22: Hill

    @HalLeeday34: Yahoo’s coming… Don’t see how Holliday’s been bad in the last four or so years.

    @Matt Tweeters: Not a bad idea, but, yeah, you would need a thousand teams.

  28. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:
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    @Ian: Thats the roblem. I do great in mocks, becaise most managers follow to some degree whatever suggestions are made by the rankings used by whatever site they are drafting on. So when I do mock drafts on YahooI tend to get all of the guys that Grey ranks higher then the other sites. I always have Quentin and Stewart on my team, for instance. But when we do our Razzball commenter drafts, most of the managers have all read the same stuff, and it will be must more difficult. At least, that was what it was like in my league last year.

    @Atherton32: Join me in pleading with Grey to extend the top 300 to the top 400. Then maybe he will compromise by giving us 50 more players.

    **** I hope you daily readers have, or are going to send in your daiquiri donations. You know in your heart that this is the just and right thing to do. Send what you can, according to your means. Just remember that Grey and the gang go above and beyond, and are infinitely beyond the intelligence range of their competitors. Plus they are funny as hell. And all of you are becoming, if you wish, part of Razzball Nation, the ulitmate cognoscenti of Fantasy Baseball, and now Football.

  29. Stephen says:
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    I know how dream stories are all weird for others to listen to because it’s all about the dream teller. However, this ole dream I had last night should be enjoyed by more than me. This past night, I had a dream in which Jonathan Sanchez was absolutely annihilating his opponent – in a good way. He was striking out more than 9 batters per 9 innings while only walking 2 batters per 9 innings. Needless to say, Sanchez was one of the most valuable fantasy players. Since dreams are fantasy and Fantasy baseball makes us dream, I am going to say Sanchez is, well, everyone knows this, but, he’ll be great this year. Or maybe it was a dream in which it was a false hope. Either way, it was quite the weird dream.

  30. Colin says:
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    I would like to get the input of Grey as well as my fellow fantasy leaguers here. My 9 keepers in NL only 6 x 6 OBP and Holds:

    Howard
    Fielder
    Tulowitzki
    Sandoval
    Upton
    Bruce
    Holliday
    Carpenter
    Hanson

    What do you think my needs are? I have the last pick so I have back to back. Should I go hitter/hitter, hitter/SP, hitter/Closer or SP/Closer?

    Notable names probably available: Carlos Lee, Ibanez, Victorino, Gallardo, Broxton, Brian Wilson.

  31. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Colin: Broxton and a hitter.

  32. Tony says:
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    just finished my first ESPN mock since that was todays post, guess i better do some ESPN ones since i’m in an RCL! Drafted from the 8th spot,12 teams, 25 rounds, all the usual set up, 5×5 etc….

    C-Montero
    1B- Miggy
    2B- Stewart
    3B- Wright
    SS- Everth
    SS/2B- Miguel Tejeda HA!
    1B/3B- Votto
    OF- Grandy, Cruz, Choo, Cargo, Reimold
    UTL- SNIDER

    SP’s- Hamels, Kershaw, Bills, Sanchez, Homer Bailey, AArdsma, Capps, Dotel

    Bench- Maybin, Blanks… for now.

    Full draft til the 10th round and about half full til mid-teens, then only like 4 guys for the 20th round on….

    Overall I like this team, what do you guys think?

  33. Smokey

    smokey says:
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    @JaHerer22: beckett or vaz for me

  34. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: Tejada — Ha indeed. Not even sure what his purpose on this team is. He’s maybe a help on average, but don’t think you even need that. Nice staff. I would’ve took another closer, starter or MR instead of Blanks, but he’s fine and it’s not that big of a deal. Nice flyers towards the end. Out of Reimold, Snider, Maybin and Blanks, one guy should pan out.

  35. Hank says:
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    Sup!
    Dynasty Keepers question:
    What are your thoughts on a potential keeper OF of?:
    Braun $45
    Cruz $15
    Choo $4
    Brucie! $24
    Dunn $24

    Looks like I need some AVG dudes, I’m also keeping Cano at 2B and Sandoval.

    To keep all 5 OFs I’d need to throw back a Cano @ $8 or Happ @ $4.

  36. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Hank: Bruce is too expensive for $24, Braun’s kinda expensive too. I’d throw back Bruce for Cano, but I have no interest in Happ.

  37. Hank says:
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    @Grey: Sweet, yeah I should mention it’s $400 salary cap, and that I’ve already factored in raises they would get depending on the contract type I assign them. Probably too many league specifics to get a simple answer.

    I have to contract types: 1 year $6 and 3 year $3/year.
    Here’s their current value before any contracts:
    Braun $39
    Bruce $21
    Choo $1
    Cruz $9
    Dunn $18

    Other OFs on my roster:
    Hart $17
    McLouth $18
    Reimold $1

  38. CoreyII says:
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    I would love to see a follow-up post using Yahoos pre-draft rankings.

  39. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Hank: $400 changes things. Why do you guys use a budget that is so much bigger than any other league? S’s and g’s? Braun’s fine for $45 then… Bruce is still a lot, but not nearly as much. I’d still go for Cano over Bruce.

    @CoreyII: It’s coming early next week.

  40. CoreyII says:
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    @Grey: Great. Thanks! Keep up the good work.

  41. Hank says:
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    @Grey: Hehe it’s complicated. 40 man rosters. 25 active players. Minors. Basically baseball nerd-dom!

  42. Mo says:
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    Love the Karabell bashing

  43. Bob says:
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    Grey,

    5×5 all-MLB 11-team keeper league (3 OF, 1 UT, no CI/MI, everything else normal).

    Which 6 do you keep of the following (just keep 6, no penalty/benefit for when they were drafted):

    Chase Utley (obvious)
    Jose Reyes
    Ben Zobrist
    Matt Holliday
    Josh Hamilton
    Andrew McCutchen
    Carlos Gonzalez
    Zack Greinke
    Adam Wainwright
    Jonathan Papelbon

    I’m leaning Utley, Reyes, Zobrist, Holliday, Greinke, Wainwright. I’d love to keep either McCutchen or CarGo (or both), but not sure I can justify it.

  44. zombie says:
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    Me too.
    Clara Bell hahahahaha! I don’t ordinarily enjoy whooping up on defenseless creatures like that odd little man. But for some reason I just can’t get enough of the clubbing of him. He’s not a pup anymore & been doing this long enough. He should know better by now. Their League setup aint bad though, so please continue to wield your hakapik Grey, so we can all tolerate another season of their expertise.

  45. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Hank: Nerd-dom in fantasy baseball? C’mon!

    @The Dude: Hehe

    @Bob: Utley, Reyes, Holliday, Greinke, McCutchen and Wainwright.

    @zombie: A hakapik? Whoa.

  46. Millsy says:
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    I’m not understanding where their Kershaw ranking is coming from. They have his rate stats and K’s at top level rates, but rank him below a bunch of guys that show nowhere near that level. The only thing I can figure out as to why is that they only project him for 8 wins. Yeah, he didn’t get many last season, but I’m not sure that luck is going to continue in the wins category if he keeps his ERA below 3 (or around it like ESPN says) and strikes out over 200 batters (like ESPN says).

    Their Justin Upton projection is hilarious, too: .288-37-109 w/98R and 23 SB. I’m very high on Upton, but that seems a bit optimistic for a projection and is somehow for Roto rated a bit far below Kemp’s .307-24-91 w/96 R and 35 SBs. But I guess their player rater loves stolen bases.

  47. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Millsy: I didn’t even look at their projections. Wow.

  48. Steve says:
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    @Grey: I could be wrong (yes, it has been known to happen), but do they also have Beltre at 312 or something?

  49. Grey

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    @Steve: Prolly… They’re rankings are hella wonky. I obviously couldn’t go over every single player they have either too high or too low. Beltre at 312 is crazy though.

  50. Jimmy Ray says:
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    Granderson is already in decline. his BABIP was 50 below his carrer avg because he pulls everything now! where will grandy bat? heck he could bat ninth!! the great player of 2007 is long gone. The guy is 10th round player being taken in 5th because he is a yankee

  51. Jimmy Ray says:
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    Karabell has jumped the shark…have you seen his mock in the rotowire mag? tragic!!

  52. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Oh, you totally had to stick to the high(low?)lights but depending on your league, not a bad late round grab.

  53. Question for Grey and all Razzballers:

    Has anyone found a list for Yahoo? I can find their top 60, but that’s it. Do I need to register for a team to see their list?

    The top 60 is actually a tiny bit more in line with Grey (more than ESPN, that is) but not by a lot.

  54. Steve says:
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    @Real Tom: Shoot me an email. sglyon [at] gmail dot com.
    Got bored, put it into a spreadsheet.

  55. Lava says:
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    @Real Tom: In addition to the email, if you look under draft central, and then draft analysis, you can look at the ADP’s for players at every position.

    As for rankings, I think they’re ranked in the “players” tab, and as far as I recall, you can click “next” to go through them. Yahoo’s ADP is more useful than the rankings, in my opinion.

  56. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Jimmy Ray: No, I didn’t see the mock in the mag.

    ****TAKE FOLLOWUPS FOR ME TO THE NEWEST POST.*****

  57. Bob says:
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    One more keeper question for you.

    I play in a points league with 11 keepers (no penalties for draft position.)
    I’m set for my top 8, but trying to pick my last three for a balance of highest ceiling and most likely to get back in the draft.

    I’m still deciding between Jurrjens, Cueto, Gordon, Bourn, and CarGo. Thoughts?

    Also, how good would Liriano have to be this spring training for me to consider him?

  58. Grey

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    @Bob: Spring’s not going to change that much. I don’t even see him on your list. I’d keep Cueto, Bourn and CarGo.

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  59. Shizzmeister says:
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    ESPN is for tools.

  60. Shmorgie S. Board says:
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    @Grey: Re: Crawdaddy

    FWIW, Crawford was the #6 rated hitter in ESPN’s system for 2009. 1B is incredibly deep and while lots of OFs can get you speed, Crawford can help you win the category and not hurt you too much in HRs. If you have a SB monster like Crawford, you can also amass speed to deal if you need to and probably still have enough power.

    ESPN has lousy rankings (CBS might be worse. They’re so bad I haven’t checked them in years), but this one doesn’t seem so bad to me.

    Man, I’d love to be in a draft where Ichiro is taken 23rd and Reyes is taken 40th! Hello, maroons, thank you for your moneys!

  61. Smokey

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    @Bob: I’d go Bourn, Jurrjens and Cueto.

  62. Gip says:
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    If your turn the ESPN ratings upside down they are not too bad. You can also print them out and use them to heat your home this winter
    Don’t forget they have the great Mr. Dodo who is hoping to climb the corporate ladder in Bristol right into his own fantasy reality show.

  63. Neil says:
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    You guys are harsh. When you rank 300 guys there are bound to be some disagreements. Crawford at #8 isn’t a big deal: .300-15-50 with 160 runs + RBI is very valuable. Yeah, Beltre, Stewart, Dempster, Tejada are all ranked a bit low while Brett Anderson, Borbon, Pierre and Andrus are rated a bit high, but if everyone agreed on the projections, what would be the point of drafting?

    One thing to note re: ESPN rankings is that catchers are ranked really low because ESPN assumes a 1 catcher league. For those of us in 2 catcher leagues, you need to move a bit quicker on catcher to guarantee you don’t have total garbage as your #2 C.

  64. Shizzmeister says:
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    Catchers are for tools. :-) I am in a two catcher league as well. I agree that you cant punt on two catcher positions but dont go overboard either. Grey does point out some good solid options in a couple of his posts.

  65. PC95 says:
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    This is a great post and really helpful. I agree with just about all you are saying, but wanted to hear your explantion/thoughts on why you feel the rankings for Crawford and Reyes are based too much on 2009, while for B Webb’s ranking you seem to suggest they aren’t taking the one year into consideration enough….thanks!

  66. Grey

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    @PC95: Stuff’s been rehashed in the blog in the rankings and elsewhere on those guys, but Webb had shoulder trouble, not good for a pitcher. Crawford has creaky knees and his biggest asset is steals in the outfield, which there’s a decent amount of. Reyes is only 26 at short and I think he’s far from over.

  67. pwire says:
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    Grey,
    I am going to attempt to clarify my question from before. I am in a 14 team 5X5 Roto that trades draft picks.
    (1-C, 1-1B,1-2B,1-SS,1-3B,3-OF,1-U, 5-SP,2-RP,2-P)

    So I have two first round picks (#1,#2 overall), a second round pick (#20 overall), two fifth round picks (#63, #69 overall),

    The rest of my early picks are #98 overall, #106 overall, #114 overall, #121 overall, #140 overall #156 overall, #177 overall, #195, and #196.

    Of course I have more picks, but what I was looking for was your opinion as to how to build this team with my picks under 200… There are 336 players taken 24 rounds.

    I am going to take Pujols and Hanley #1, #2 overall… Then I am on to #20… (I hope this makes more sense) So essentially, I am asking your advice as to how you would map out your plan if you were in my position.
    Hope this clears up the ambiguity.
    So again here are my overall picks, #1,#2,#20,#63,#69,#98,#106,#114,#121,#140,#156,#177,#195,#196

  68. Grey

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    @pwire: Pujols, Hanley… Then maybe a 2nd baseman (Kinsler), 3rd baseman (Zimmerman) or an outfielder (Holiday, Sizemore, etc.). Then I’d go for one starter and one hitter (probably an outfielder) at the 63, 69 picks. Then I’d draft my team like any other team.

  69. pwire says:
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    Thanks, you’re the man! I like getting your opinion because I need to stay away from being biased. I was thinking the same except the 63, 69 picks: taking two pitchers. I thought my offense would be loaded…

  70. David says:
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    I played in a ESPN league once and never ever will again. The interface is klunky and the rankings are terrible. Yahoo is the best imo. Their rankings aren’t that great either but their interface is much less of a eye sore

  71. Pancakes says:
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    Grey,
    How much would your rankings and strategy change if you were in a h2h league?

  72. Grey

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    @Pancakes: Not a whole lot. Pitching can be punted even further in H2H because of weekly match-ups you can do.

  73. Griffey says:
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    Hey Grey, you’re absolutely right about ESPN. I just finished a mock draft in their lobby, and with the 11th pick I ended up with this roster, seriously, it’s bs over there:
    C- Soto
    1B- Howard
    2B- Phillips, Uggla, Barmes (yeah, I know silly)
    SS- Reyes
    3B- Longoria
    OF- Granderson, Dunn, McLouth, Rivera, Rasmus, Byrd, Cargo
    SP- Nolasco, Cain, Kershaw, Price, Neftali, Cueto, Liriano
    RP- Soriano, Franklin, Aardsma
    Bench- who needs one with this squad…wtf?
    The analcysts @ ESPN should be mercifully led into an active volcano…

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