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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Look Back In Anger:  B.J. Upton and Justin Smoak</title>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-628028</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-627741&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pablo&lt;/a&gt;: 

Well technically since the post, his average has dropped from .271 to .260 since i wrote this post.
 
I still dont think he hits over .250. The under 10 HRs is in jeopardy, but he still has a 10.9% line drive rate. I maintain that his average will make his power useless. I would rather have someone like Mark Trumbo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-627741" rel="nofollow">pablo</a>: </p>
<p>Well technically since the post, his average has dropped from .271 to .260 since i wrote this post.</p>
<p>I still dont think he hits over .250. The under 10 HRs is in jeopardy, but he still has a 10.9% line drive rate. I maintain that his average will make his power useless. I would rather have someone like Mark Trumbo</p>
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		<title>By: pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since this post, Smoak&#039;s average has gone up to .260 (hitting .277 for the month of june) and he&#039;s had 6 dingers. Regression still in store?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this post, Smoak&#8217;s average has gone up to .260 (hitting .277 for the month of june) and he&#8217;s had 6 dingers. Regression still in store?</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-577415</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 14:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks BKK- same schtick different place. glad you read! thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks BKK- same schtick different place. glad you read! thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-577302</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 12:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Roger- must say I love your television work.

Of the three, I like Moreland the most. Steady guy with decent pop, average and counting numbers.

Trumbo looks like a legit 25+ HR guy, but his average will suffer. But if its power you need, Trumbo&#039;s your guy.

As for ROY: Britton seems to be the leader and I&#039;d bet on Belt in the NL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Roger- must say I love your television work.</p>
<p>Of the three, I like Moreland the most. Steady guy with decent pop, average and counting numbers.</p>
<p>Trumbo looks like a legit 25+ HR guy, but his average will suffer. But if its power you need, Trumbo&#8217;s your guy.</p>
<p>As for ROY: Britton seems to be the leader and I&#8217;d bet on Belt in the NL.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Lodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Lodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 07:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ouch!  That&#039;s some scathing criticism of Smoak!  Honestly, I suppose I must&#039;ve been Drinking the kool-ade a little too much with this guy.

The good thing is that I went ahead and scooped up all of the best 1B rookies (imo), including Moreland and Trumbo (LaPorta has been calling out).

I guess the question is who among these mashers will a) give me the most power, b) end up with the best overall numbers and c) on a semi-unrelated note, who do you think the front-runners for AL and NL ROY are so far?

I&#039;m pretty interested in anyone&#039;s thoughts on this.  Maybe I&#039;m just dull, or simply that desperate for potential power, but I&#039;m hoping that at least one of these guys will pan out.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch!  That&#8217;s some scathing criticism of Smoak!  Honestly, I suppose I must&#8217;ve been Drinking the kool-ade a little too much with this guy.</p>
<p>The good thing is that I went ahead and scooped up all of the best 1B rookies (imo), including Moreland and Trumbo (LaPorta has been calling out).</p>
<p>I guess the question is who among these mashers will a) give me the most power, b) end up with the best overall numbers and c) on a semi-unrelated note, who do you think the front-runners for AL and NL ROY are so far?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty interested in anyone&#8217;s thoughts on this.  Maybe I&#8217;m just dull, or simply that desperate for potential power, but I&#8217;m hoping that at least one of these guys will pan out.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: BKK</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-576527</link>
		<dc:creator>BKK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 03:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-576092&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;albert&lt;/a&gt;: Cool.  Good to know!  I did like to read your articles.  Had a look at your blog, seems to follow similar vain to FB101.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-576092" rel="nofollow">albert</a>: Cool.  Good to know!  I did like to read your articles.  Had a look at your blog, seems to follow similar vain to FB101.</p>
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		<title>By: wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 22:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks im gonna roll with it, thanks for validating it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks im gonna roll with it, thanks for validating it.</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting Lester is a darn good way to use your resources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting Lester is a darn good way to use your resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Aardvark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aardvark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 22:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Grey

So when ya&#039;ll say, &quot;this is what else I saw in fantasy baseball yesterday&quot;, how come nobody is seeing what Mike Stanton has been doing? Last mention of him was May 5th. A .390 avg and 6 HR in his past 14?!?! Poppycock I say!! On another note, these are great reads every single day thanks for the entertainment. The e-book was awesome too. Well done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Grey</p>
<p>So when ya&#8217;ll say, &#8220;this is what else I saw in fantasy baseball yesterday&#8221;, how come nobody is seeing what Mike Stanton has been doing? Last mention of him was May 5th. A .390 avg and 6 HR in his past 14?!?! Poppycock I say!! On another note, these are great reads every single day thanks for the entertainment. The e-book was awesome too. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 22:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@albert
I am trading anderson and k-rod for lester... I prefer Lester as well...
I have Kimbrel, Madson, Farnsworth, and Broxton (i would trade K-Rod) in a 13 team mixed roto.  I love Lester and grow concerned about Anderson and staying healthy.  Lester would join Kershaw, Gallardo, Wood, and some other yahoos to compliment my staff.  I lead the league in saves by 10.... I have 46 next is 36, 36, and 30]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@albert<br />
I am trading anderson and k-rod for lester&#8230; I prefer Lester as well&#8230;<br />
I have Kimbrel, Madson, Farnsworth, and Broxton (i would trade K-Rod) in a 13 team mixed roto.  I love Lester and grow concerned about Anderson and staying healthy.  Lester would join Kershaw, Gallardo, Wood, and some other yahoos to compliment my staff.  I lead the league in saves by 10&#8230;. I have 46 next is 36, 36, and 30</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote something on Vogelsong at h2hcorner.wordpress.com. The bottom line is he is no sure bet to stay in the rotation. I think he is a match-ups guy in 12-teamers but not a longterm plan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote something on Vogelsong at h2hcorner.wordpress.com. The bottom line is he is no sure bet to stay in the rotation. I think he is a match-ups guy in 12-teamers but not a longterm plan</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-576116</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i prefer Lester in a vaccum. the big question is who you either drop if you get KRod/Anderson (and how badly you need saves) or who you pick up if you are receiving Lester]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i prefer Lester in a vaccum. the big question is who you either drop if you get KRod/Anderson (and how badly you need saves) or who you pick up if you are receiving Lester</p>
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		<title>By: Black Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thoughts on Vogelsong? Contemplating picking him up if Bailey&#039;s shoulder is serious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts on Vogelsong? Contemplating picking him up if Bailey&#8217;s shoulder is serious.</p>
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		<title>By: wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Krod and Brett Anderson for Lester?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krod and Brett Anderson for Lester?</p>
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		<title>By: dingbat</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-576102</link>
		<dc:creator>dingbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-576040&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BlinkULDHC&lt;/a&gt;: You&#039;re right -- it was harder to find players who fit those specifications.  But not impossible.  Here are a few more numbers (all are from 2008 to 2011):

Player name, GB%, AVG, AVG Rank, R/L/S

Joe Mauer, 48.4%, .338, 1, L
Ichiro Suzuki, 57.3%, .321, 3, L
Christian Guzman, 53.1%, .292, 27, S
Carl Crawford, 49.6%, .290, 31, L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-576040" rel="nofollow">BlinkULDHC</a>: You&#8217;re right &#8212; it was harder to find players who fit those specifications.  But not impossible.  Here are a few more numbers (all are from 2008 to 2011):</p>
<p>Player name, GB%, AVG, AVG Rank, R/L/S</p>
<p>Joe Mauer, 48.4%, .338, 1, L<br />
Ichiro Suzuki, 57.3%, .321, 3, L<br />
Christian Guzman, 53.1%, .292, 27, S<br />
Carl Crawford, 49.6%, .290, 31, L</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also do like Moreland more than Smoak...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also do like Moreland more than Smoak&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the same Albert who operated FB101. The owners of that site were going to shut it down, so I moved. You&#039;ll see articles here, at my blog (h2hcorner.wordpress.com) and at Elite Fantasy Players.

Glad you remember me and hope you like my work]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same Albert who operated FB101. The owners of that site were going to shut it down, so I moved. You&#8217;ll see articles here, at my blog (h2hcorner.wordpress.com) and at Elite Fantasy Players.</p>
<p>Glad you remember me and hope you like my work</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Joe- I would take a gamble on Dunn. You are essentially trading two parts that aren&#039;t part of the longterm plan. Its a gamble because Dunn has been terrible, but its worth the risk. I thoink Hosmer is an adequate safety net at 1B

All please excuse the tardiness of my replys and a few typos here and there. I am traveling]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Joe- I would take a gamble on Dunn. You are essentially trading two parts that aren&#8217;t part of the longterm plan. Its a gamble because Dunn has been terrible, but its worth the risk. I thoink Hosmer is an adequate safety net at 1B</p>
<p>All please excuse the tardiness of my replys and a few typos here and there. I am traveling</p>
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		<title>By: BKK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this the same Albert Lang that used to maintain the Fantasy Baseball 101 site.  What happened man?  Where&#039;d you go?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same Albert Lang that used to maintain the Fantasy Baseball 101 site.  What happened man?  Where&#8217;d you go?</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be shocked if Rizzo.hit 15 hrs in about 60 percent of the year. He aint Adrian Gonzalez....yet.

Still like belt more for this year but a lot depends on the call up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be shocked if Rizzo.hit 15 hrs in about 60 percent of the year. He aint Adrian Gonzalez&#8230;.yet.</p>
<p>Still like belt more for this year but a lot depends on the call up</p>
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		<title>By: dsimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh don&#039;t worry, I wouldn&#039;t do it straight up.  Definitely not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh don&#8217;t worry, I wouldn&#8217;t do it straight up.  Definitely not.</p>
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		<title>By: BlinkULDHC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlinkULDHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575959&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dingbat&lt;/a&gt;: 

I&#039;d say that those guys are more the exception than the rule.  

The guys you listed are not only faster than Smoak, but most of them are RHBs, which DOES make a difference.  Smoak gets a majority of PAs from the left side, and you&#039;re just not going to hit for a high average if you&#039;re hitting GBs 50% of the time, with a majority of GBs going to 1B-2B area.  

Not only that, but I&#039;d hardly call Delmon Young, Denard Span, Yunel Escobar et al. &quot;elite average sources.&quot;  They&#039;re around .285-.290 -- which is decent -- but certainly not &quot;elite.&quot;  


Now, if you can find a SHB or LHP who hits around 50% GB AND hits for an &quot;elite average,&quot; I&#039;ll be impressed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575959" rel="nofollow">dingbat</a>: </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that those guys are more the exception than the rule.  </p>
<p>The guys you listed are not only faster than Smoak, but most of them are RHBs, which DOES make a difference.  Smoak gets a majority of PAs from the left side, and you&#8217;re just not going to hit for a high average if you&#8217;re hitting GBs 50% of the time, with a majority of GBs going to 1B-2B area.  </p>
<p>Not only that, but I&#8217;d hardly call Delmon Young, Denard Span, Yunel Escobar et al. &#8220;elite average sources.&#8221;  They&#8217;re around .285-.290 &#8212; which is decent &#8212; but certainly not &#8220;elite.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now, if you can find a SHB or LHP who hits around 50% GB AND hits for an &#8220;elite average,&#8221; I&#8217;ll be impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-576026</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m trying to deal Smoak as we speak in a keeper league where I also have Hosmer.  I&#039;ll definitely keep Hosmer but don&#039;t feel 100% great about having him as my only 1B yet (I prefer using him in one of two UTIL spots if I do start him) so I was thinking about offering Hellickson/Smoak for Dunn.  I won&#039;t keep Hellickson after the season (I have some other young pitchers who I think are better and/or cheaper like Pineda, Bumgarner, Zimmermann) so I&#039;d like to move him and Smoak together if possible.  

Do you think that would be good value even with Dunn putting up a lot of nothing?  I agree with your Smoak outlook so I don&#039;t want him causing a big hole in my lineup.  Otherwise I could just ditch Smoak for a FA like Morse, Moreland, or even Belt if he gets into the lineup regularly and doesn&#039;t have the same early season struggles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to deal Smoak as we speak in a keeper league where I also have Hosmer.  I&#8217;ll definitely keep Hosmer but don&#8217;t feel 100% great about having him as my only 1B yet (I prefer using him in one of two UTIL spots if I do start him) so I was thinking about offering Hellickson/Smoak for Dunn.  I won&#8217;t keep Hellickson after the season (I have some other young pitchers who I think are better and/or cheaper like Pineda, Bumgarner, Zimmermann) so I&#8217;d like to move him and Smoak together if possible.  </p>
<p>Do you think that would be good value even with Dunn putting up a lot of nothing?  I agree with your Smoak outlook so I don&#8217;t want him causing a big hole in my lineup.  Otherwise I could just ditch Smoak for a FA like Morse, Moreland, or even Belt if he gets into the lineup regularly and doesn&#8217;t have the same early season struggles.</p>
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		<title>By: AL KOHOLIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AL KOHOLIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[say rizzo gets THE call next week like i expect and hope,does he hit 280-15 from here on out,if so what will belt bring us then]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>say rizzo gets THE call next week like i expect and hope,does he hit 280-15 from here on out,if so what will belt bring us then</p>
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		<title>By: BlinkULDHC</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-576015</link>
		<dc:creator>BlinkULDHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad  Smoak didn&#039;t get traded to the Red Sox, it&#039;d be a treasure trove of puns. 

&quot;Deep fly ball to right... will it stay fair?.... Yes!... Justin Smoak&#039;s the Pesky Pole!!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad  Smoak didn&#8217;t get traded to the Red Sox, it&#8217;d be a treasure trove of puns. </p>
<p>&#8220;Deep fly ball to right&#8230; will it stay fair?&#8230;. Yes!&#8230; Justin Smoak&#8217;s the Pesky Pole!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-575983</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575964&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dingbat&lt;/a&gt;: 

Completely agree - dead on analysis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575964" rel="nofollow">dingbat</a>: </p>
<p>Completely agree &#8211; dead on analysis</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575959&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dingbat&lt;/a&gt;: 

You are entirely correct and I kind of oversimplified the problem with groundballs and tacked on the average portion. With high GBs comes a high variance on BABIP.

Smoak can maintain this but it is extremely unlikely given his speed and history at the plate to date. But simply saying high gb% cannot equal a high average was taking a shortcut - thanks for clarifying for others]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575959" rel="nofollow">dingbat</a>: </p>
<p>You are entirely correct and I kind of oversimplified the problem with groundballs and tacked on the average portion. With high GBs comes a high variance on BABIP.</p>
<p>Smoak can maintain this but it is extremely unlikely given his speed and history at the plate to date. But simply saying high gb% cannot equal a high average was taking a shortcut &#8211; thanks for clarifying for others</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do not trade UPton for CarGo - CarGo will hit better and for a tad more power - maybe a little less stolen bases,  but that&#039;s not hard to overcome]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not trade UPton for CarGo &#8211; CarGo will hit better and for a tad more power &#8211; maybe a little less stolen bases,  but that&#8217;s not hard to overcome</p>
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		<title>By: dingbat</title>
		<link>http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/#comment-575964</link>
		<dc:creator>dingbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575931&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dsimon&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;d want something else in addition to B.J. Upton.  The hit on AVG, Rs, and RBIs will likely outweigh the gain in SBs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://razzball.com/dont-look-back-in-anger-b-j-upton-and-justin-smoak/comment-page-1/#comment-575931" rel="nofollow">dsimon</a>: I&#8217;d want something else in addition to B.J. Upton.  The hit on AVG, Rs, and RBIs will likely outweigh the gain in SBs.</p>
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		<title>By: dingbat</title>
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		<dc:creator>dingbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One quibble with this:

&quot;The scariest thing about Smoak is his 49% ground ball rate. A guy hitting that many balls on the ground is not an elite power or average source.&quot;

Guys with GB rates over 49% since 2008 include:

Ichiro Suzuki
Starlin Castro
Yunel Escobar
Delmon Young
Denard Span

All of these guys have provided near-elite averages for at least two of the past 3+ years.  GBs have a higher batting average on balls in play than fly balls, so it&#039;s definitely possible to have both high GB% and high AVG.  The main difference between these guys and Smoak is that they&#039;re all a lot faster than he is, so your main point still stands.  But it&#039;s not as simple as saying that high GB% = low AVG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One quibble with this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The scariest thing about Smoak is his 49% ground ball rate. A guy hitting that many balls on the ground is not an elite power or average source.&#8221;</p>
<p>Guys with GB rates over 49% since 2008 include:</p>
<p>Ichiro Suzuki<br />
Starlin Castro<br />
Yunel Escobar<br />
Delmon Young<br />
Denard Span</p>
<p>All of these guys have provided near-elite averages for at least two of the past 3+ years.  GBs have a higher batting average on balls in play than fly balls, so it&#8217;s definitely possible to have both high GB% and high AVG.  The main difference between these guys and Smoak is that they&#8217;re all a lot faster than he is, so your main point still stands.  But it&#8217;s not as simple as saying that high GB% = low AVG.</p>
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