Comments on: Don’t Meddle With Middling Middle Infielders in the Middle Rounds http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/ Razzball is a fantasy baseball blog dedicated to providing usable strategy, advice and tips for winning your fantasy baseball league. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:03:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Edgar Renteria and Orlando Cabrera Are Not Friends http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-2324 Edgar Renteria and Orlando Cabrera Are Not Friends Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:19:28 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-2324 [...] hope they didn’t take any offense to me calling them middling infielders before the season (in fairness, Renteria has been good so far. Orlando, not so [...] [...] hope they didn’t take any offense to me calling them middling infielders before the season (in fairness, Renteria has been good so far. Orlando, not so [...]

]]> By: Rudy Gamble http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-644 Rudy Gamble Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:48:56 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-644 Pat K - Well, if there's anyone in baseball that doesn't need fantasy love, it's jeter. he gets enough loving as it is... Patrick - Cabrera AND Renteria? Oy. But it's an AL-only auction league so it's a bit of a different best. Hope you didn't spend too much on 'em.... Pat K -
Well, if there’s anyone in baseball that doesn’t need fantasy love, it’s jeter. he gets enough loving as it is…

Patrick -
Cabrera AND Renteria? Oy. But it’s an AL-only auction league so it’s a bit of a different best. Hope you didn’t spend too much on ‘em….

]]> By: Patrick DiCaprio http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-643 Patrick DiCaprio Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:39:09 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-643 Rudy, I guess you wouldn't like my auction team very much. My two AL ss are Cabrera and Renteria... I am glad you agree on Jeter, I have discussed him ad nauseum. If his name were Derek Gamble he would be a tenth round pick! Keep up the good work! <em>Patrick DiCaprio's last blog post..<a href='http://www.fantasybaseballgenerals.com/2008/03/latest-rototimes-article_12.html' rel="nofollow">Latest RotoTimes Article</a></em> Rudy, I guess you wouldn’t like my auction team very much. My two AL ss are Cabrera and Renteria…

I am glad you agree on Jeter, I have discussed him ad nauseum. If his name were Derek Gamble he would be a tenth round pick!

Keep up the good work!

Patrick DiCaprio’s last blog post..Latest RotoTimes Article

]]> By: Pat King http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-621 Pat King Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:57:17 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-621 I am a yankees fan as well, but agree that jeter has slumped. Heck, doesn't matter if I really agree after all........it's in the number eh? I am a yankees fan as well, but agree that jeter has slumped. Heck, doesn’t matter if I really agree after all……..it’s in the number eh?

]]> By: Rudy Gamble http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-620 Rudy Gamble Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:42:26 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-620 hey eric - my point shares are based 100% on projections. while he's 80th in value (accounting for position), I could easily justify moving up in the draft given his upside. moving him up 58 picks, though, is too much for me.... his K rate is just SO high. i want to say 33% of AB which rivals Ryan Howard. and while he should get RBIs this year, it's hard to expect more than 20-25 SB for a middle of the lineup guy with below average OBP. but at least he has the upside which is more than i could say for the unjustified ADPs for jeter, renteria, and cabrera... hey eric -
my point shares are based 100% on projections. while he’s 80th in value (accounting for position), I could easily justify moving up in the draft given his upside. moving him up 58 picks, though, is too much for me….

his K rate is just SO high. i want to say 33% of AB which rivals Ryan Howard. and while he should get RBIs this year, it’s hard to expect more than 20-25 SB for a middle of the lineup guy with below average OBP.

but at least he has the upside which is more than i could say for the unjustified ADPs for jeter, renteria, and cabrera…

]]> By: Eric http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-619 Eric Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:54:22 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-619 Man my BJ Upton For Fantasy MVP 2008 sure misses the boat, doesn't it? Man my BJ Upton For Fantasy MVP 2008 sure misses the boat, doesn’t it?

]]> By: Rudy Gamble http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-603 Rudy Gamble Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:24:58 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-603 Hey Josh - Great point that almost all the undervalued players in the list are at 2B vs. SS. I think this would make me slightly more amenable to reaching on a SS but only so much. I've targeted Guillen in the 5th round and Furcal in the 8th/9th round as my best hopes for value but - truth be told - I got Khalil Greene in my only draft so far. But that was in the 14th round of a 12 team league and I feel like I got fair value for him. I like Peralta as a late SS pick as well. Taking Tulo two rounds too high (which would make him Tuhi vs. Tulo...) is too much. Is he really 10 rounds better than Khalil? I think extending to the 5th round is the farthest I'd go and if that means he's gone, so be it. It means there's some bargain to be had...probably a pitcher, maybe a cornerman or OF... As for the 2B/SS pick, the value plays all point to taking a 2B.... Hey Josh -
Great point that almost all the undervalued players in the list are at 2B vs. SS.

I think this would make me slightly more amenable to reaching on a SS but only so much. I’ve targeted Guillen in the 5th round and Furcal in the 8th/9th round as my best hopes for value but - truth be told - I got Khalil Greene in my only draft so far. But that was in the 14th round of a 12 team league and I feel like I got fair value for him. I like Peralta as a late SS pick as well.

Taking Tulo two rounds too high (which would make him Tuhi vs. Tulo…) is too much. Is he really 10 rounds better than Khalil? I think extending to the 5th round is the farthest I’d go and if that means he’s gone, so be it. It means there’s some bargain to be had…probably a pitcher, maybe a cornerman or OF…

As for the 2B/SS pick, the value plays all point to taking a 2B….

]]> By: josh http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-602 josh Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:39:23 +0000 http://razzball.com/don%e2%80%99t-meddle-with-middling-middle-infielders-in-the-middle-rounds/#comment-602 great article as always, though I think it shows more how weak SS is this year than how weak middle infielders are in general. your undervalued section is loaded with good late-round 2b options like pedroia, hill, sanchez, polanco, and options like these don't exist so much at SS. so I'm thinking at some point, we have to reach for a SS. if we wait until we're getting fair value we end up with khalil greene or yunel escobar, who I'm assuming isn't even ranked highly enough to be over- or underrated on the above lists. and personally, I feel that reyes and hanley are way overvalued, so I rarely end up with a SS unless rollins slips to 8 or so. the guys i've been targeting in mocks so far if i miss out on the big 3 have been tulowitzki, guillen, and furcal. I agree tulowitzki is a reach as high as he goes (I usually have to grab him in the 4th), but I think he stands out as the best option in a crop of overvalued players. you have guillen at fair value but he doesn't go much later than Tulo, so usually my chance to get him is when I grab Tulo. and while I like Furcal, he's a reach in the 7th. I take him if he's around in the 8th so overall, I think everyone's basically reaching for SS's, and our choices are to jump on the bandwagon, or roll with Greene (or like option). right now I'm thinking the former is the best bet great article as always, though I think it shows more how weak SS is this year than how weak middle infielders are in general. your undervalued section is loaded with good late-round 2b options like pedroia, hill, sanchez, polanco, and options like these don’t exist so much at SS.

so I’m thinking at some point, we have to reach for a SS. if we wait until we’re getting fair value we end up with khalil greene or yunel escobar, who I’m assuming isn’t even ranked highly enough to be over- or underrated on the above lists. and personally, I feel that reyes and hanley are way overvalued, so I rarely end up with a SS unless rollins slips to 8 or so.

the guys i’ve been targeting in mocks so far if i miss out on the big 3 have been tulowitzki, guillen, and furcal. I agree tulowitzki is a reach as high as he goes (I usually have to grab him in the 4th), but I think he stands out as the best option in a crop of overvalued players. you have guillen at fair value but he doesn’t go much later than Tulo, so usually my chance to get him is when I grab Tulo. and while I like Furcal, he’s a reach in the 7th. I take him if he’s around in the 8th

so overall, I think everyone’s basically reaching for SS’s, and our choices are to jump on the bandwagon, or roll with Greene (or like option). right now I’m thinking the former is the best bet

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