Comments on: Deep End of the Kiddie Pool

By: Smokey

Smokey — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:51:50 +0000

@tourinct: marcum is a personal target of mine as well

By: Smokey

Smokey — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:50:51 +0000

@Freak: farnsworth makes terrible look like a dime piece.

By: tourinct

tourinct — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:51:19 +0000

I’m also looking at J. A. Happ and Shawn Marcum in this role.

By: Freak

Freak — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:18:23 +0000

@brett: No it's not. Farnsworth is terrible.

By: ETMcgee

ETMcgee — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:28:23 +0000

Yeah, the combo of phil hughes + neftali essentially won me 1 league last year and got me 3rd place in the other 2. I was forced to implement the middle reliever approach due to a slew of injuries and bad drafting of pitching, and will likely attempt to utilize it from the start this year.

117 IP, 9 W, 5 Sv, 135 K, and ridiculous ratios b/w Hughes + Neftali is far better than carrying 1-2 crappy starters.

By: SpikeOwen

SpikeOwen — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:45:22 +0000

I do this every year, but not just for spot starts. It can be used the other way as well to pick up saves and holds.

I used Uehara to spot start form the RP slot early in the year.

By: brett

brett — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:16:39 +0000

@Freak: Ah, good point.

By: brad

brad — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:43:55 +0000

Yeah, thanks for this. I am in an h2h points league with weekly lineups like Nate, very useful to keep tabs on guys like these for those purposes.

I rostered Tejeda for a while last year and enjoyed most of that time, it’s reassuring to know he’s on others’ radar too.

By: Freak

Freak — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:36:20 +0000

Royals are saying that they want to try Farnsworth out as a starter. Definitely someone to watch out for if he gets that SP eligibility.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:48:15 +0000

@Eric: thanks E

By: Eric

Eric — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:30:16 +0000

@smokey, nice article..these guys could be real effective in a weekly change week. Loved the Full Metal Jacket clip at the beginning.

I agree with you on Morrow and Masterson. I like them both and will def. keep an eye on them. Looking forward to seeing more stuff from you.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:27:29 +0000

@Whiskey Richard: Hughes is another good one, Joba never pitched from pen until playoffs and got everyone in NY sports talk radio goin see i told ya, but in an accent reminiscent of "Jersey shore"

By: brett

brett — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:04:54 +0000

@Smokey: Really? That's interesting. His walk rates have historically been awful, so i won't get too optimistic but he's one of those guys who EVERYONE will be sleeping on if he does somehow find the strike zone. A good guy to keep tabs on.

By: Whiskey Richard

Whiskey Richard — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:02:23 +0000

What about Hughes/Chamberlain? Draft ‘em both late, and get one quality SP and one sick MR out of it.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:37:28 +0000

@brett: agreed with Tejada, but he just misses bats, very low h/9. and ignore one start w/7bb and his walk rate is almost haved as a starter.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:35:01 +0000

Some great info here and worth remembering that the flipside – relievers with SP eligibility – can be really useful too.

In one of my leagues we count Holds, so a middle reliever that qualifies as an SP is gold on those days where you might otherwise have an SP slot empty. And even if you don’t count Holds, it’s a nice way to fill a slot for a little help with your ratios.

By: brett

brett — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:19:10 +0000

Thanks for this. I forgot all about Robby Tejeda. Reminds me of Jorge De La Rosa from a couple years ago. If only he didn’t walk everyone. You can’t even play matchups with a guy who walks everyone.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:16:44 +0000

@Nate Marcum: @ .30 its worth the risk, imo. Misread the post initially.

By: Smokey

Smokey — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:15:01 +0000

@Nate Marcum: I based it off 5sp/5rp apperances. Most of the guys listed qualify in yahoo and cbs basic formats. Im huge Nolasco believer this year, his era post AS break was a run and a half lower. That may be the route i would go but keep an eye on Jurrjens injury.

By: Nate Marcum

Nate Marcum — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:48:21 +0000

Very useful article! I am in a h2h points league with weekly lineup settings, and this has been a strategy of mine for a few years. “Try and find the SP with RP eligibility when they are projected for 2 starts and reap the rewards…*Brandon Morrow, I thought you were listening, but obviously you weren’t! Just like back in April of ’87 when the Cardinals traded Andy Van Slyke* Way off topic, but Van Slyke was brought up today at work……

How many games in relief are you basing this on?

Keeper question….In a 5×5 12 team undroppable auction league (50 cap)….Do I keep Jurrjens for .30 and ride the wobbly shoulder rollercoaster, or just drop him all together…I have Price, Nolasco, Broxton, and maybe Maine to keep…need 9P. Hmmm???